Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 6/20/20 7:04 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: On 21/6/20 9:40 am, Daniel Frey wrote: On 6/20/20 6:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:06 PM Daniel Frey wrote: Maybe when I have a moment I'll file a bug. Dan Thanks for filing the bug.  One of my pet peeves is that the

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On 21/6/20 9:40 am, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 6/20/20 6:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:06 PM Daniel Frey wrote: > > Maybe when I have a moment I'll file a bug. > > Dan > Thanks for filing the bug.  One of my pet peeves is that the last few years gentoo has been going down

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 6/20/20 6:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:06 PM Daniel Frey wrote: You just pointed out the ambiguity. Emerging a package solely by its name worked 99.9% of the time before this change. Now new users get the fun of "Gee, which one is the one I actually want?" MythTV

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:06 PM Daniel Frey wrote: > > You just pointed out the ambiguity. > > Emerging a package solely by its name worked 99.9% of the time before > this change. > > Now new users get the fun of "Gee, which one is the one I actually > want?" MythTV is a fairly clear one to

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:25:38 A.M. AEST Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 2020-06-20 19:06, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I understand the dependencies problem that they were trying to solve, > > but I don't think the way it was implemented is a great one. > > This isn't a fundamental problem, it's your

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Daniel Frey: > You just pointed out the ambiguity. I did no such thing, and there is no ambiguity. There is only the failure to specify a package's identifier ("atom"). > Emerging a package solely by its name worked 99.9% of the time before > this change. Perhaps for the packages you used; I

Re: [gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files.

2020-06-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 21/06/20 00:11, Michael wrote: > PS. exFAT has made it into the latest Linux kernels. Great. So linux may be able to read the card just fine, but it's still useless in the device I bought it for ... :-) Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2020-06-20 19:06, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I understand the dependencies problem that they were trying to solve, > but I don't think the way it was implemented is a great one. > This isn't a fundamental problem, it's your package manager being dumb. File a bug; I can think of several

Re: [gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files.

2020-06-20 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 June 2020 00:08:55 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 20/06/20 23:14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > It sounds like it may be filesystem corruption. With an SD card I'd > > either reformat it, preferably in the device that will be using it, > > If that's possible ... :-) > > I now have two

Re: [gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files.

2020-06-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/06/20 23:14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > It sounds like it may be filesystem corruption. With an SD card I'd > either reformat it, preferably in the device that will be using it, If that's possible ... :-) I now have two devices, my car radio and a tv, both of which require the vfat filesystem.

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 6/20/20 11:56 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: * Daniel Frey: I went to emerge mythtv (I think) and now it says it's an ambiguous requests with *both* the group and user of the same name. You need to emerge "media-tv/mythtv", not just "mythtv". Nothing ambiguous about it. Further reading:

Re: [gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files.

2020-06-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:09:02 -0500, Dale wrote: > I thought I'd use a little more brute force.  I started the process over > again the usual way.  I then went to a Konsole which is logged in as > root, I did a rm -rfv for the main directory on the card.  It showed it > deleted all the files.  I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WARNING: Do not update your system on ~amd64

2020-06-20 Thread Viktar Patotski
Hi All, First of all thanks for this thread! It helped me a lot. In short: I was not able to login to my notebook after battery discharge reboot... Thanks, I always have Gentoo live USB drive. So: 1. I booted to livecd 2. chrooted to my system (thanks I still not encrypted my hdd) 3. emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Daniel Frey: > I went to emerge mythtv (I think) and now it says it's an ambiguous > requests with *both* the group and user of the same name. You need to emerge "media-tv/mythtv", not just "mythtv". Nothing ambiguous about it. Further reading: https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0081.html

Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

2020-06-20 Thread james
On 6/20/20 1:12 AM, urp...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote: Folks, Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC pickup camper gentoo centric "deep woods" mobile dev_shop. I kid you not: "Upton says the 64-bit image is for power

[gentoo-user] Memory cards and deleting files.

2020-06-20 Thread Dale
Howdy, I have a couple deer trail cameras.  They use SDHC cards.  I have several of these.  I was playing with one that hasn't been used in a while and was going to set it up to use for other things.  I put it in my card reader and opened it with Dolphin.  I then right clicked on the directory

Re: [gentoo-user] MS-Teams on XFCE4/Gentoo

2020-06-20 Thread antlists
On 18/06/2020 12:03, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Neil, On Thursday, 2020-06-18 09:32:35 +0100, you wrote: ... Am I getting old or do others also wish they could just get a text howto instead of watching a video every time they want to do something new? Don't know anything about your age ...

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 6/19/20 9:04 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: Inquiring minds want to know. What exactly do they accomplish, besides cluttering up a database somewhere? It's not the cluttering of databases that bother me, it's the creation of many ambiguous requests now. I went to emerge mythtv (I think) and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u fails with "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory"

2020-06-20 Thread Dale
Sean O'Myers wrote: > > How do unsubscrib > >   > > Each email source has this info. List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Make sure you send with the email address you subscribed with. Dale :-) :-)

RE: [gentoo-user] emerge -u fails with "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory"

2020-06-20 Thread Sean O'Myers
How do unsubscrib Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: J. Roeleveld Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:36 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u fails with

RE: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Sean O'Myers
How do unsubscrip from all Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Walter Dnes Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 12:05 AM To: Gentoo Users List Subject: [gentoo-user] What's with all these

Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

2020-06-20 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:12:28 BST urp...@gmx.com wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC > > pickup camper gentoo centric "deep woods" mobile dev_shop. > > > > I kid you not:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] =dev-lang/spidermonkey-60.5.2_p0-r4 fails @world update

2020-06-20 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 04:18:24 BST urp...@gmx.com wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 08:56:52AM +1000, urp...@gmx.com wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 06:08:49PM +0100, Michael wrote: > > > A single compile job on a big package can eat >3G of RAM. I don't know > > > what spidermonkey jobs

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-20 Thread Dale
Additional info.  I got the data moved and a smaller drive removed from the LVM setup.  I decided to play with badblocks a bit and test the old drive.  I'm testing with destructive patterns since that should effectively erase data.  The old drive reported a few errors.  I did some googling and

Re: [gentoo-user] =dev-lang/spidermonkey-60.5.2_p0-r4 fails @world update

2020-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 00:07:45 BST urp...@gmx.com wrote: > I haven't thought about these things in a long time. I've never had more > than 4GB of RAM. Welcome to the world of compiling everything from source. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] What's with all these "acct-group" ebuilds recently?

2020-06-20 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > Inquiring minds want to know. What exactly do they accomplish, > besides cluttering up a database somewhere? > I found this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Categories_acct-group_and_acct-user Dale :-)  :-)