[gentoo-user] Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-08-17, Wols Lists wrote: > Can't you tell your server to forward all outgoing mail to your ISP's > SMTP server? That way, you don't have to worry about all the spam > issues, and it *should* just pass through. With many ISPs that will only work if you want the e-mail to come from your

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 17/08/2020 13:11, Dale wrote: >> We put all the keywords in emails with white letters and a white >> background. > > And how do I do that when I use plain latin-1 (or unicode) emails ... ? > > Cheers, > Wol > > I'd guess it requires HTML email.  This was before I started

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread antlists
On 17/08/2020 13:11, Dale wrote: We put all the keywords in emails with white letters and a white background. And how do I do that when I use plain latin-1 (or unicode) emails ... ? Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Dale
Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:40:52PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> That likely weeds out some false positives.  Just because a person says bomb >> doesn't mean just that. > Considering some of the words in this list, I can't seriously imagine they > monitor every flagged case. Here are

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:40:52PM -0500, Dale wrote: > That likely weeds out some false positives.  Just because a person says bomb > doesn't mean just that. Considering some of the words in this list, I can't seriously imagine they monitor every flagged case. Here are some of the more

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 17 August 2020 17:54:25 BST Dale wrote: > > [snip ...] >> pie. Of course, we have Govts that don't have the sharpest tools in the >> shed working there so what more can we expect from them. ROFL > They use private IT consultancies for this kind of work. The Gov't

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Michael
On Monday, 17 August 2020 17:54:25 BST Dale wrote: [snip ...] > pie. Of course, we have Govts that don't have the sharpest tools in the > shed working there so what more can we expect from them. ROFL They use private IT consultancies for this kind of work. The Gov't work has been outsourced

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Dale
hitachi303 wrote: > Am 17.08.2020 um 14:11 schrieb Dale: >> Many years ago, before I used Gentoo, it was claimed, and likely >> true, that Govt types were reading our emails looking for key words.  >> Well, as a joke some of us gave them something to read.  We put all >> the keywords in emails

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/17/20 6:10 AM, Wols Lists wrote: Yup. If you've got mail DNS records pointing at your home server, incoming mail shouldn't be a problem and your vps admin can't snoop :-) True. But the ISP can still sniff the traffic and you can be subject to DPI. Can't you tell your server to forward

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/17/20 5:33 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: How many concurrent users will be connected to the mail server? How much traffic will the S.M.T.P. server receive (read: how many e-mails arrive on a daily basis)? My main VPS has a single digit number of clients and processes anywhere between

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread hitachi303
Am 17.08.2020 um 14:11 schrieb Dale: Many years ago, before I used Gentoo, it was claimed, and likely true, that Govt types were reading our emails looking for key words.  Well, as a joke some of us gave them something to read.  We put all the keywords in emails with white letters and a white

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/16/20 10:50 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: hi. Hi context: 1. tinfoil hat is on. Okay. 2. i feel disrespected when someone does things to my stuff without getting my approval. Sure. 3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may read my emails, and laugh at me! Do you

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 00:21:58 +0800, Pengcheng Xu wrote: > >> The email in question didn’t have "really small, tiny even, font"; it >> is simply an empty email with no subject and body. >> >> Note: times when forcing plain text when reading actually helps :P > Don't worry

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/08/20 12:33, Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 04:50:43AM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: >> thoughts on how to maximally satisfy these >> requirements? > > How many concurrent users will be connected to the mail server? How much > traffic > will the S.M.T.P. server receive

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Jarry
On 17-Aug-20 6:50, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: hi. context: 1. tinfoil hat is on. 2. i feel disrespected when someone does things to my stuff without getting my approval. 3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may read my emails, and laugh at me! 4. whole thing is not worth

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 04:50:43AM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > thoughts on how to maximally satisfy these > requirements? How many concurrent users will be connected to the mail server? How much traffic will the S.M.T.P. server receive (read: how many e-mails arrive on a daily

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 00:21:58 +0800, Pengcheng Xu wrote: > The email in question didn’t have "really small, tiny even, font"; it > is simply an empty email with no subject and body. > > Note: times when forcing plain text when reading actually helps :P Don't worry Dale, some of us got your

[gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-17 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
hi. context: 1. tinfoil hat is on. 2. i feel disrespected when someone does things to my stuff without getting my approval. 3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may read my emails, and laugh at me! 4. whole thing is not worth much money. so not welling to pay more than the