On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:15:32PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Ashley Dixon wrote:
> >
> > Especially considering most Americans do not understand the system (the
> > readability of the I.R.S. tax code has been under scrutiny for a long time),
> > I wouldn't want to place the burden of conferring with
Ashley Dixon wrote:
>
> Especially considering most Americans do not understand the system
> (the
> readability of the I.R.S. tax code has been under scrutiny for a long time),
> I
> wouldn't want to place the burden of conferring with such a convoluted system
> on
> anyone.
>
I
On 2020-08-28 20:29, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 8/28/20 6:10 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> I think I see where we're diverging: I'm assuming that the employees of
>> the VPS provider can hop onto any running system with root privileges.
>
> Perhaps I'm woefully ignorant, but my current working
On 8/28/20 3:54 PM, Poison BL. wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:51 AM Caveman Al Toraboran
wrote:
hi. context:
1. tinfoil hat is on.
2. i feel disrespected when someone does things to
my stuff without getting my approval.
3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may
read my
On 8/28/20 6:10 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
I think I see where we're diverging: I'm assuming that the employees of
the VPS provider can hop onto any running system with root privileges.
Perhaps I'm woefully ignorant, but my current working understanding is
that no virtual machine hypervisor
On 8/28/20 5:00 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/28/20 1:18 PM, antlists wrote:
The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because
stupid network operators block everything else!
I agree that filtering is a problem.
I also think that it's something that most people can overcome
On 8/28/20 4:45 PM, james wrote:
If we can get these codes running on arm64 (R.P.4) surely running them
on AMD or intel is trivial?
I will be flabbergasted if something would run on the Raspberry Pi that
won't run on x86 (Intel / AMD). Presuming that it's complied from
common source code.
On 2020-08-28 19:43, Grant Taylor wrote:
>
> The only way to get the key is to extract it out of the running VPS's
> memory. Something that I think is beyond the capability of many, but
> definitely not all, people.
>
> ...
>
> As long as STARTTLS is used (and validated) between the MTAs and
On 8/28/20 4:26 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:> The contents of the disk
are unencrypted while the server is powered
on, or at least while the server is receiving email (while it's reading
from and writing to that disk). In practice that will be all the time
-- you can't log in and type the
On 8/28/20 4:56 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/28/20 1:55 PM, james wrote:
I'm proposing, via a small corp I own, to purchase up to (3) dual
Rasp.pi 4 setups of (2) R.Pi.4 8gig ram setups and send them to the
devs WE all decide on.
A few points.
1)� I don't think that 8 GB of RAM is
On 2020-08-28 17:53, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 8/28/20 3:33 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> TLS only secures the channel; what comes out at the end is a plain-text
>> message that can be read with minimal effort by the VPS provider,
>> no skullduggery needed.
>
> I agree that STARTTLS only
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:03:33PM +0100, antlists wrote:
> On 28/08/2020 19:10, james wrote:
> >
> > A council member, from say England, could manage how 1/2 of what they
> > raise is spent. It could even "english centric" but must comply with USA
> > IRS standards. Our council could be expanded
On 8/28/20 3:33 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
TLS only secures the channel; what comes out at the end is a plain-text
message that can be read with minimal effort by the VPS provider,
no skullduggery needed.
I agree that STARTTLS only protects the email while it's in flight
between servers.
On 2020-08-28 17:12, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 8/28/20 1:54 PM, Poison BL. wrote:
>> I'm rather late to the game with this, but at the end of the day,
>> mail coming *into* a mail server isn't typically encrypted (and even
>> that is only the body, the headers can still reveal a great deal,
>>
On 8/28/20 1:54 PM, Poison BL. wrote:
I'm rather late to the game with this, but at the end of the day,
mail coming *into* a mail server isn't typically encrypted (and even
that is only the body, the headers can still reveal a great deal,
and are necessary for the server to work with it).
james wrote:
> On 8/21/20 4:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> On 8/21/20 11:01 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
>>> yes, i do consider re-inventing octagonal wheels.
>>
>> I think that it's occasionally a good thing to have a thought
>> experiment about how $THING might be made better.
>>
>> It's
On 28/08/2020 19:10, james wrote:
A council member, from say England, could manage how 1/2 of what they
raise is spent. It could even "english centric" but must comply with USA
IRS standards. Our council could be expanded to many members, from other
countries, with a centic goal of spending
On 8/28/20 1:18 PM, antlists wrote:
The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because
stupid network operators block everything else!
I agree that filtering is a problem.
I also think that it's something that most people can overcome when they
control the firewall between
On 8/28/20 1:55 PM, james wrote:
I'm proposing, via a small corp I own, to purchase up to (3) dual
Rasp.pi 4 setups of (2) R.Pi.4 8gig ram setups and send them to the
devs WE all decide on.
A few points.
1) I don't think that 8 GB of RAM is required. -- My email server is
a VPS with 2 GB
On 28/08/2020 20:34, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Cheers,
Wol
I think you meant that Caveman doesn't understand what TCP (and UDP) actually
is.
Grant does seem to know what he is talking about.
Sorry yes I did. I got rather confused ... not surprising really :-)
Cheers,
Wol
On 8/21/20 4:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/21/20 11:01 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
yes, i do consider re-inventing octagonal wheels.
I think that it's occasionally a good thing to have a thought experiment
about how $THING might be made better.
It's probably good to have discussions
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:51 AM Caveman Al Toraboran
wrote:
>
> hi. context:
>
> 1. tinfoil hat is on.
> 2. i feel disrespected when someone does things to
>my stuff without getting my approval.
> 3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may
>read my emails, and laugh at me!
> 4.
On 28 August 2020 21:27:52 CEST, antlists wrote:
>On 26/08/2020 21:21, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>> so basically total expected number of protocols/layers used in the
>>> universe, per second, will be much less if we, on planet earth, use
>a
>>> mail system that uses HTTP* instead of RESXCH_*.
>>
On 26/08/2020 21:21, Grant Taylor wrote:
so basically total expected number of protocols/layers used in the
universe, per second, will be much less if we, on planet earth, use a
mail system that uses HTTP* instead of RESXCH_*.
I obviously disagree.
Exactly. You now need a protocol/layer
On 26/08/2020 19:51, Grant Taylor wrote:
Just because it's possible to force something to use HTTP(S) does not
mean that it's a good idea to do so.
The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because
stupid network operators block everything else!
Cheers,
Wol
On 26/08/2020 18:40, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/21/20 10:15 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
just to double check i got you right. due to flushing the buffer to
disk, this would mean that mail's throughput is limited by disk i/o?
Yes.
This speed limitation is viewed as a necessary limitation
On 8/28/20 2:10 PM, james wrote:
On 8/28/20 1:20 PM, Dale wrote:
Jack wrote:
On 8/28/20 12:33 PM, james wrote:
On 8/27/20 10:11 PM, Dale wrote:
james wrote:
Gentoo,
https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/
Surely some of the
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On Friday, August 28, 2020 2:35 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 09:07:03PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
>
> > anyway i'm out of this. massive waste of time. i
> > could've finished server-side hillarymail by it.
>
> Oh, come on. People on
On 8/28/20 1:20 PM, Dale wrote:
Jack wrote:
On 8/28/20 12:33 PM, james wrote:
On 8/27/20 10:11 PM, Dale wrote:
james wrote:
Gentoo,
https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/
Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks want to
Jack wrote:
> On 8/28/20 12:33 PM, james wrote:
>> On 8/27/20 10:11 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> james wrote:
Gentoo,
https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/
Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks
On 8/28/20 12:33 PM, james wrote:
On 8/27/20 10:11 PM, Dale wrote:
james wrote:
Gentoo,
https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/
Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks want to "chime in" on
Sir Gorny's proposal?
I just
On 8/27/20 10:11 PM, Dale wrote:
james wrote:
Gentoo,
https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/
Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks want to "chime in" on
Sir Gorny's proposal?
I just read this on 'hacker news'
It just
I noticed some strange behavior recently which has since gone away.
>From a security standpoint, if root is hacked I suppose there's no way
to know, but if not can I use root to determine whether my user is
still secure?
On Friday, 28 August 2020 01:30:58 BST Ashley Dixon wrote:
> I can't really comment on LaTeX, because I've never really used it; from
> the small snippets I've seen, I just assume it's TeX with a hell of a lot
> of useful macros. I've always just stuck to TeX, with a copy of the
> TeXBook
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