Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:41:39 +0200 brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, Intel onboard videocards were well supported open source... They do a really nice job on 2D in my experience. But if you are accelerating 3d opengl in hardware, like glxgears for example, expect artifacts to the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:23:23 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:05:24 +0200, b.n. wrote: The onboard Intels were a good lifesaver. I'm considering an Intel Core Duo... what's wrong with them that AMD does right? :) Nothing AFAICT. I have a Core2Duo

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:36:38 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say if you stick with AMD, try the boxed cooler and test it. Since it's not a dedicated silent system, it might be good enough. If you switch to Intel, buy a good cooler from the beginning. Furthermore, be sure

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Dan Farrell ha scritto: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:41:39 +0200 brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, Intel onboard videocards were well supported open source... They do a really nice job on 2D in my experience. But if you are accelerating 3d opengl in hardware, like glxgears for

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-23 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 21:01 +0200, b.n. wrote: Florian Philipp ha scritto: Are they silent too? I really need silent things. Oh, you want silence? I hope you know that this is a real science? Yes :) But my current setup is silent enough for my needs (don't remember what cpu fan is it,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-22 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Mittwoch 22 August 2007 00:05:24 schrieb b.n.: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - supported Intel onboard video card with its own video RAM - good supported onboard audio with 5.1 surround you can not put an amd chip on an intel board a vice versa. *bangs on his head* - of course...

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-22 Thread b.n.
James Ausmus ha scritto: Just as a note - the Intel HD audio driver is a different driver than the intel_8x0 driver (Which is more a generic AC97 driver that supports Intel 8x0 chipsets, SiS, nVidia, AMD, and ALi AC97 compliant sound chips) - from the sounds of your experiences, I wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 22. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Florian Philipp ha scritto: Are they silent too? I really need silent things. Oh, you want silence? I hope you know that this is a real science? Yes :) But my current setup is silent enough for my needs (don't remember what cpu fan is it, nor I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread brullo nulla
I have an old but functional ATI Radeon 9200SE. Won't it work anymore? If there's something better, with decent 3D supported and onboard, let me know... emm.. since most boards don't have agp anymore. No, it won't. And even if it works.. I am not sure that the 9200SE would be really

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 21 August 2007 13:41:39 schrieb brullo nulla: I have an old but functional ATI Radeon 9200SE. Won't it work anymore? If there's something better, with decent 3D supported and onboard, let me know... emm.. since most boards don't have agp anymore. No, it won't. And even if

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Alan E. Davis
I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM. Alan On 8/22/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag 21 August 2007 13:41:39 schrieb brullo

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread brullo nulla
On 8/21/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM. Ok, so the specs that are coming out for the motherboard

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Joshua Doll
brullo nulla wrote: On 8/21/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM. Ok, so the specs that are coming out

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 21. August 2007, brullo nulla wrote: On 8/21/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM. Ok, so

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 21 August 2007 16:57:02 schrieb brullo nulla: On 8/21/07, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might add to avoid using on board video or video cards like my own, an NVIDIA based LE 6200, that uses system RAM. Even if you aren't doing games. You are using only 1GB of RAM.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - supported Intel onboard video card with its own video RAM - good supported onboard audio with 5.1 surround you can not put an amd chip on an intel board a vice versa. *bangs on his head* - of course... This thing is becoming harder than I thought. Buy new

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:05:24 +0200, b.n. wrote: The onboard Intels were a good lifesaver. I'm considering an Intel Core Duo... what's wrong with them that AMD does right? :) Nothing AFAICT. I have a Core2Duo E6600, having always used AMD in the past, and I'm very happy with it. -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 22. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - supported Intel onboard video card with its own video RAM - good supported onboard audio with 5.1 surround you can not put an amd chip on an intel board a vice versa. *bangs on his head* - of course... This

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: Why not go to a friend how nows about hardware and let him built a pc for you? or ask your friendly hardware dealer? Definitely what I will do at last. I hoped it was easier, so I thought to ask here, but it is not. I learned a lot anyway, so this hasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-21 Thread James Ausmus
snip Talking about onboard audio, you should not have much to choose from, either AC97 or Intel HD. Both should be okay (as long as you are not at least semi-professional). I've heard about trouble with Intel HD because they are not all the same but most offer AC97 compatibility as a fall

[gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread b.n.
Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my requisites are pretty simple. So, that's what I want: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my requisites are pretty simple. So, that's what I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported*

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? it really does not matter.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 20. August 2007, James wrote: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: videocard too. onboard ;) I have an old but functional ATI Radeon 9200SE. Won't it work anymore? If there's something better, with decent 3D supported and onboard, let me know... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-20 Thread James
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What