On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:55:01 +0200
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a
while (I've actually have never encountered a bug with Audacious), for
me. Now, when I upgraded to 2.4.x dbus was forced on me (well, that and
Xfce4)... I'm
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to run a
daemon or server. Just playing music.
Or mpg321 or mpg123, both of which are
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to
run a daemon or server. Just playing music.
Or mpg321
on 09/20/2011 07:50 PM Volker Armin Hemmann wrote the following:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to run a
daemon or server. Just
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't
Am Dienstag 20 September 2011, 20:19:44 schrieb Thanasis:
on 09/20/2011 07:50 PM Volker Armin Hemmann wrote the following:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 20:20:35 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin
Michael Mol writes:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org
wrote:
And, as an Amarok user... searching my collection, finding song texts,
rating songs, wikipedia information for artist, album or a specfic
song, tagging, easy sorting of playlists, bookmarks,
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern
parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it.
Many of us actually like the modern features of the kernel, glibc,
udev, dbus, systemd, pulseaudio,
On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote:
The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy.
You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to,
e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel)
I've never used genkernel and always compile my own kernels...
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote:
The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy.
You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to,
e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel)
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 18:55:01 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-18 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:
And he's using Audacious - a fork of a gigantic bug nest (mms) .
According to his earlier post, it forces dbus to run.
Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a
while
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:
again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you
can disregard all
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:52:16 schrieb Michael Mol:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
I think you need to take a closer look; it does support a lot of
modern parts of the stack (as you call it); it's just focused on the
things that matters (for an
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:21:08 schrieb Paul Colquhoun:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern
parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it.
Many of us actually like the modern
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol:
I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't
think I ever got around to setting it up;
you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do hardware
mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol:
I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't
think I ever got around to setting it up;
you don't set it up. It just works.
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol:
I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:06:18 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
FWIW, PulseAudio predates Windows Vista, Windows 7, even MacOS X. I
ran it on a 200MHz machine back when it was called Enlightenment
Sound Daemon.
Pulseaudio was meant to be a drop in replacement
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:20:30 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol:
I
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do
hardware mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using dmix.
Ah. As I said, I hadn't poked or researched dmix since I read about it
in LinuxJournal. Pretty sure that
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to run a
daemon or server. Just playing music.
Or mpg321 or mpg123, both of which are commandline programs.
--
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
On 2011-09-18 09:37, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Other systems may start to use it if it proves itself useful. Lucky for
us, it doesn't obsolete anything else, just adds functionality to what
is already there.
Although, one thing which I find very annoying is that the things that
depend on it
On 2011-09-18 12:03, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
And what is your problem with dbus anyway? I bet you can't even measure a
difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or
responsiveness of your gui.
Not my specific case(s) but a quick google gave this:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 12:44:04 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-18 12:03, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
And what is your problem with dbus anyway? I bet you can't even measure
a
difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or
responsiveness of your gui.
Not my specific
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 11:23:43 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-18 09:37, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Other systems may start to use it if it proves itself useful. Lucky for
us, it doesn't obsolete anything else,
On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that all
the time there isn't much software left.
You said: I bet you can't even measure a
difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or
responsiveness of
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:19 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that all
the time there isn't much software left.
You said: I bet you can't even measure a
difference between
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:15:25 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 11:23:43 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-18 09:37, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Other systems may start to use it if
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that
all the time there isn't much software left.
You said: I bet you can't even measure a
difference between dbus running
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:
again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you can
disregard all software ever written.
This is why, when designing systems, you
On 2011-09-18 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:
And he's using Audacious - a fork of a gigantic bug nest (mms) .
According to his earlier post, it forces dbus to run.
Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a
while (I've actually have never encountered a bug with
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:55:01 +0200
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a
while (I've actually have never encountered a bug with Audacious), for
me. Now, when I upgraded to 2.4.x dbus was forced on me (well, that
and Xfce4)... I'm
On 2011-09-18 15:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Hey, that's really cool.
I agree.
Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern
parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it.
I think you need to take a closer look; it does support a lot of
modern parts of
On 2011-09-18 19:41, Indi wrote:
Install mpd, mpc, and ncmpc. Read the man pages, live happily ever
after.
Ok, I'll look into it. Thanks!
Best regards
Peter K
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:55:01 +0200
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
And he's using Audacious - a fork of a gigantic bug nest (mms) .
According to his earlier post, it forces dbus to run.
Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a
while (I've actually have never
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
I think you need to take a closer look; it does support a lot of
modern parts of the stack (as you call it); it's just focused on the
things that matters (for an embedded system). It is the mindset that I'm
after; it seems even
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