Blank screen after Xorg update (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED])

2009-10-11 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix use flag, unmerged all of kde-4.2, updated world, depcleaned. Now

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:05:16 +0900, daid kahl wrote: That's okay. I washed my passport once. Did your photo look any better afterwards? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick If you consult enough experts, you can confirm any opinion. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread pk
Dale wrote: I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Then you might like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
pk wrote: Dale wrote: I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Then you might like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: pk wrote: Dale wrote: I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Then you might like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Well, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6 and guess what, it was a bust, AGAIN. I moved xorg.conf, re-emerged the xf86-input-* stuff and it did do a little better. I bumped the mouse and the pointer moved, then it locked up and my fans started spinning up so I assume the CPU was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: pk wrote: Dale wrote: I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big time. It's starting to really leave a bad taste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: pk wrote: Dale wrote: I hate to say it this way, but hal just plain sucks. I may play with it some later but I'm getting sick of hal big

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale: I'll give that a try. I tend to restore a saved session anyway. u, I couldn't find the option to edit the menu like in KDE 3. It used to be in Applications then Settings. The updating tool is there but not the editing one. Right-click on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-09 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale: I'll give that a try. I tend to restore a saved session anyway. u, I couldn't find the option to edit the menu like in KDE 3. It used to be in Applications then Settings. The updating tool is there but not the

[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org writes: I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it Alt-SysRq and then REISUB And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org writes: I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it Alt-SysRq and then REISUB And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? The System Request key. Generally located

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org writes: I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it Alt-SysRq and then REISUB And what is `SysRq' a reference to on a keyboard? On US keyboards SysRq is usually on the Print Screen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper right. Also marked PrtScn. It moves around though. I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it moving

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper right. Also marked PrtScn. It moves around though. I've had this keyboard a few years and it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 08 October 2009 20:30:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:47:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: The System Request key. Generally located somewhere in the upper right. Also marked PrtScn. It moves around though. I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:17:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I've had this keyboard a few years and it's always stayed in exactly the same place. Maybe the other keys stop it moving :) Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where you pop the key lids off to wash them

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread daid kahl
Nope, you're just doing it wrong. You're forgetting to do the bit where you pop the key lids off to wash them then forget where to put them back That explains it, I just put the whole keyboard in the dishwasher. That may sound stupid, but it's not as bad as using Cc: on mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-08 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key That's the one. I think its either the second or third key that makes it go back to a console. It is nice to know about. I have it taped to my wall for reference.

[gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a console. I'll bite ... what is it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Harry Putnam writes: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a console. I'll bite ... what is it? Some magic commands involving the SysRq key allow actions even if the system hangs and does not respond. Alt-SysRq-R for example

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Harry Putnam writes: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: I also know the SysReq key trick now. It can take you back to a console. I'll bite ... what is it? Some magic commands involving the SysRq key allow actions even if the system hangs and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file system corruption. Usually! Sometimes a system can be locked up to badly that there's not enough

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file system corruption. Usually!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Others allow to kill processes, sync the filesystem, and such. The combination Alt-SysRq-R-E-I-S-U-B reboots a hanging PC without file

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED]

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:00 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I've seen you guys talk about this and I've never had to use it. I'm curious about the actual key strokes. Is it Alt-SysRq and then REISUB or Alt-SysRq followed by Atl-R, Atl-E, etc.. ? Hold down Alt-SysRq while pressing REISUB in