Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:42:25 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Thats what wasn't clear to me. I assume this is a special case in that an 'update world' won't install new kernel sources by default? It will, provided the existing kernel sources were emerged. Portage only tracks software installed by

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-28 Thread Holly Bostick
Digby Tarvin schreef: On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 08:25:52PM -0400, James Hiscock wrote: I gather one cannot just copy the .config file for this much of a jump, so I guess the best thing to do is a simultaneous 'make menuconfig' in both old and new kernel using two different windows so that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-28 Thread James Hiscock
As I am going from 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 to 2.6.12-gentoo-r10, which is more than just a revision change, it would seen that 'make oldconfig' is not recomended. Recommendations are just that: recommendations. You can take them or leave them. :) And I have to agree with Holly on this one: it's a

[gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
The portage system seems pretty effective in keeping the user level code up to date on a gentoo system - but now that I have had my system installed for 6-7 months it has occured to me that my kernel is no longer current, and I havn't found anything in the handbook suggesting how this should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/27/05, Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The portage system seems pretty effective in keeping the user level code up to date on a gentoo system - but now that I have had my system installed for 6-7 months it has occured to me that my kernel is no longer current, and I havn't found

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks, but I am ok on configuring the kernels and then installing them in /boot. The thing which isn't clear to me is how I should get the 'linux-new_version' directory installed on my system without downloading a whole new install image and copying it across manually? Is there a kernel release

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread John Jolet
On Thursday 27 October 2005 14:25, Digby Tarvin wrote: Thanks, but I am ok on configuring the kernels and then installing them in /boot. The thing which isn't clear to me is how I should get the 'linux-new_version' directory installed on my system without downloading a whole new install

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/27/05, Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but I am ok on configuring the kernels and then installing them in /boot. The thing which isn't clear to me is how I should get the 'linux-new_version' directory installed on my system without downloading a whole new install image

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
P.S. See my other posts regarding trying to get USB to work for my mobile for the inspiration behind wanting to update the kernel. I think if you get to the stage of having to debug kernel code, it is always worth at least trying the latest kernel first. Regards, DigbyT On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks, Thats what wasn't clear to me. I assume this is a special case in that an 'update world' won't install new kernel sources by default? I assume that the separate kernel source trees means that a new kernel can be build in parallel to an older one, and the active kernel chosen at boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/27/05, Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Thats what wasn't clear to me. I assume this is a special case in that an 'update world' won't install new kernel sources by default? emerge --update world should install the new kernel sources for you. Did you do a emerge --sync? If

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:43:07 +0100 Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The portage system seems pretty effective in keeping the user level code up to date on a gentoo system - but now that I have had my system installed for 6-7 months it has occured to me that my kernel is no longer current,

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:45:49AM +0200, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:43:07 +0100 Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The portage system seems pretty effective in keeping the user level code up to date on a gentoo system - but now that I have had my system installed for

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread James Hiscock
I gather one cannot just copy the .config file for this much of a jump, so I guess the best thing to do is a simultaneous 'make menuconfig' in both old and new kernel using two different windows so that I can be sure to copy each of the current settings across. Easier solution: copy the

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/28/05, Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:45:49AM +0200, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:43:07 +0100 Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The portage system seems pretty effective in keeping the user level code up to date on a gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel updates

2005-10-27 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks James and Qian, But doesn't this conflict with the advice given in kernel-upgrade.xml, which says: The only situation where this is appropriate is when upgrading from one Gentoo kernel revision to another. For example, the changes made between gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r1 and