=== On Wed, 08/12, Paul Hartman wrote: ===
I seem to feel that it's more mature, too. I haven't stopped using it,
but in the last 5 years that I've been using it, it has definitely
gotten much easier and more manageable thanks to the hard work of so
many people.
===
Oh, yes. It seems the
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:41:55 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
I did, it is passed the install directory as an argument, so I looked
at the kernel makefile and found it uses INSTALL_PATH to determine
this. I originally thought about modifying installkernel, but it's
good that that isn't needed
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:46:24 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
I question the wisdom of installing kernels in a directory intended
for bootloader files, but if you really must...
INSTALL_PATH=/boot/grub make install
I'd also add that you can always look at /sbin/installkernel and make
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
good too. Would sort of miss the ole truck tho.
But then you'll be back to dialup indefinitely
... i wonder if
Dan Farrell wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
good too. Would sort of miss the ole truck tho.
But then you'll be back to dialup
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Dan Farrell wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
good too. Would sort of miss the
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:31:31 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
I did, it is passed the install directory as an argument, so I looked
at the kernel makefile and found it uses INSTALL_PATH to determine
this. I originally thought about modifying installkernel, but it's
good that that
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
distrowatch.
Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
distros rise up the rankings when a new release is due, because people
are
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in comparison with earlier installations. None of the
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in comparison with earlier
worse it is, but it's always a matter of time, and I don't have that
time -not to update per se, which I have, but to face problems in case
critical updates don't go smooth.
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
However, unlike a dog, you can
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 12:43:27 bn wrote:
So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -one
example is my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed, in
late 2007. I know it's counterproductive, because the more I wait, the
worse it is, but it's always a
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around usually
is enough to fix most kinds of breakages. Also building
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org
wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
usually is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
distrowatch.
Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
distros rise up the rankings when a new release
bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
manually and name them in my own
090812 Dale replied to bn :
I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
I do mine manually and name them in my own way,
something like bzImage-kernel
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
manually
Philip Webb wrote:
090812 Dale replied to bn :
I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
I do mine manually and name them in my own way,
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Alan E. Davislngn...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it because I'm more experienced, or perhaps more cautious? I am running
~amd64, and have several overlays installed under layman. I don't know, but
I tend to think the distribution is more mature.
Welcome back! :)
I
Ward Poelmans ha scritto:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
usually
is enough to fix most kinds of
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:20:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If
I need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if
the new one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I
do mine manually and name them in my
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a cd so it's a
better choice when you are very mobile.
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the process of switching
from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
person in existence.
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
...
Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times
but
it didn't work like I do manually.
+1
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the kernel
any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple of million lines
of source code, but not to
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times but
it
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it
On 8/12/2009 5:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
$ make make modules_install make install
too much to type.
make all modules_install install
is much better.
I always forget that the 'all' target (typically) does the same thing as
just
From: Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:58:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Knock on wood
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
$ make install
supposes you are installing to the standard location.
I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on the
machine a while back - but I'm installing to /boot/grub, not /boot. So
far as I am aware (I
On 12 Aug 2009, at 21:58, Mike Edenfield wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the
kernel any
way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
$ make make modules_install
$ cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage
Stroller ha scritto:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
...
Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
So I am becoming very reluctant
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:07:22 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Why does everyone replying to my post snip the part in which I said
that I'm an old dog?
We were bing polite :)
--
Neil Bothwick
Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level.
Then they beat you with experience.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the kernel
any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple of million
Dan Farrell wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the process of switching
from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
person in existence.
Wll, they are testing
bn wrote:
Oh no, other packages I more or less regularly update -now I'm just
behind with Xorg 1.5 because of all the horror stories I've heard on
this list.
Oh lets not even start on xorg-server-1.5. I already have a bug up my
butt about ATT and DSL.
I think I mentioned, -hal in
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:59:53 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
$ make install
supposes you are installing to the standard location.
I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on
the machine a
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure that
this system has been performing admirably well this time around, in
comparison with earlier installations. None of the earlier installations
were
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