Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 00:23:56 schrieb Dale: I jusr recently copied my system using cp -av and it does have a -a option.  It's in my man page as well.  I have not even heard of gcp so I don't think I have ever used it. Yes, you did. On Linux cp _is_ gcp (GNU cp). % LANG= cp --version

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 00:23:56 schrieb Dale: I jusr recently copied my system using cp -av and it does have a -a option. It's in my man page as well. I have not even heard of gcp so I don't think I have ever used it. Yes, you did. On Linux cp _is_

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 09:29:56 schrieb Dale: I thought gcp was the command That depends on the platform. If you install it from an OpenPKG.org RPM package for example, you'll get it as cp as well as gcp. And AFAIK the BSD's install all the GNU tools with a g prefix to distinguish them

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Dale wrote: D I thought gcp was the command, so I stand corrected on that part at least. I even thought maybe it was a GUI cp or something. I was curious as to how that would work. scratches head LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little different from

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dake Wang
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nzwrote: Dale wrote: D I thought gcp was the command, so I stand corrected on that part at least. I even thought maybe it was a GUI cp or something. I was curious as to how that would work. scratches head LOL -

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 10:42:12 schrieb Dake Wang: Joerg is obviously adverting the program star. Haha Sure. I'd do the same if had written it. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the CD, then what? None of this matters

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the CD, then what?

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Thing is, what is on the CD works for me. I been using cp for a long time and unless it stops working, I don't plan to switch. My current Didn't you complain about gcp? According to other posts, you wrote the program. Why not talk to the people that make

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nz wrote: LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a little oblique to say the least - since all Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nz wrote: LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: and which data is not copied? ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If you use ACLs or extended attributes you have to either take care of them separately or use star or rsync. Bye...

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:20:49 Joerg Schilling wrote: Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nz wrote: LOL - Joerg was just making a point that GNU variant of cp is a little different from the 'standard' UNIX (hmm - is there really such a thing?) version of cp. Err, on this list the point

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:58:24 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: oh really? and which cp is the native cp on linux? a little hint: GNU/LInux Wrong. Native cp on Linux is whatever the user decided to install, or whatever the distro bundled if the user left it at default. The fact that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:58:24 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: oh really? and which cp is the native cp on linux? a little hint: GNU/LInux Wrong. Native cp on Linux is whatever the user decided to install, or whatever the distro bundled

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: and which data is not copied? ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If you use ACLs or extended attributes you have to either take care of

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 15:52:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: and which data is not copied? ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 13:58:24 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: and which data is not copied? ACLs and extended attributes. Still not! The same is true for GNU tar. If you use ACLs or extended attributes you

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-21 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Thing is, what is on the CD works for me. I been using cp for a long time and unless it stops working, I don't plan to switch. My current Didn't you complain about gcp? Nope. I didn't complain about. Never heard of

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid,

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid,

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying everything from the old drive to the new drive with: cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? but it's taking hours. Both drives are SATAII

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Graham Murray
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? yes it does cp --help Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST or: cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY or: cp [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE... Copy SOURCE to DEST,

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? yes it does See below cp --help Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST or: cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't care which options are missing in Solaris' version of cp ;-) Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't care which options are missing in Solaris' version of cp ;-) I

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid,

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 20:45:27 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2008 18:44:53 schrieb Joerg Schilling: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? Sure he is. This is a Linux mailing list. We don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:13:40PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked: It looks like I have 620GB free on this 1TB disk. From what I've read, formatting eats up about 7%, and I had 250Gb worth of data. Does that mean about 60GB are being reserved for root? If you used ext2/ext3 with mke2fs,

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying everything from the old drive to the new drive with: cp -ax /olddrive/* /newdrive/ cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for?

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Joerg Schilling wrote: Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: cp neither has a -a nor a -x option. Are you talking abut gcp? yes it does See below cp --help Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T]

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de wrote: On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying everything from the old drive to the new drive with: cp -ax

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de wrote: On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD I'm in the middle of copying everything from

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemm...@tu-clausthal.de wrote: On Samstag 20 Dezember 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I've booted to a LiveCD

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 21 Dezember 2008, Dale wrote: I have another question, is the star command on the CD? If it is not, then the point of using star is mute. I know I boot from the Gentoo CD, mount my partitions and then copy it over. If the command is not on the CD, then what? None of this

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Grant
It looks like I have 620GB free on this 1TB disk. From what I've read, formatting eats up about 7%, and I had 250Gb worth of data. Does that mean about 60GB are being reserved for root? If you used ext2/ext3 with mke2fs, the default is 5% reserved. If you put the whole disk in one

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 08:35:47PM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked: Can I change the amount reserved for root? for ext2/3, try 'man tune2fs'. W -- Proof by contradiction: Suppose the square root of 3 were rational. Then sqrt(3) = p / q, for some relatively prime integers p and q. Hence p

[gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Grant
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc?

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 08:01 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Uwe
Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for?

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives

2008-12-19 Thread Dale
Uwe wrote: Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch