Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-12 Thread james
On 08/12/2016 09:15 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:13 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. The

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-12 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:13 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: >> Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering >> ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. > > The study of anything is really the

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-12 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: > Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering > ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. The study of anything is really the study of war.

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-12 Thread james
On 08/11/2016 07:48 AM, Douglas J Hunley wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:51 AM, james > wrote: Douglas did manage to pull his own bacon from the fire, in the end of his article, but it wreaks of vendor hyperbole, imho. Again, not the

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:51 AM, james wrote: > Douglas did manage to pull his own bacon from the fire, in the end of his > article, but it wreaks of vendor hyperbole, imho. > Again, not the author -- { "name": "douglas j hunley", "email": "doug.hun...@gmail.com",

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:43 AM, james wrote: > I guess my point is 'Douglas' is full of stuffing, OR that is what folks > are doing when they 'role their own solution specifically customized to > their specific needs' as he alludes to near the end of his commentary? (I'd >

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-04 Thread R0b0t1
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM, james wrote: > > Atomicity; Consistency; Isolation, Durability == ACID (so we are all on the > same page). > > Not my thesis. My thesis, inspired by these threads, is that all of these > (4) properties of ACID, originated in the telephone

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-04 Thread james
On 08/04/2016 05:09 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:16:32 AM james wrote: On 08/01/2016 11:49 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: Way back, when the earth was cooling and we all had dinosaurs for pets, some of us hacked on AT

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:16:32 AM james wrote: > On 08/01/2016 11:49 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > >> Way back, when the earth was cooling and we all had dinosaurs for pets, > >> some of us hacked on AT "3B2" unix systems. They were know

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Mick wrote: > Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am > running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running > MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 01, 2016 09:07:05 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Neither my employer nor the big software provider > >> in question is likely to attract

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 01:03 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: Sure this part is only related to transaction processing as there was much more to the "five 9s" legacy, but imho, that is

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 11:49 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: >> Neither my employer nor the big software provider >> in question is likely to attract top-notch DB talent (indeed, mine has >> steadily gotten rid of anybody who

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > So the original article very much seems to have been written with a skewed > bias and wrong focus. That's bias as in "shifted to one side as used in > math" not bias as in "opinionated asshat beating some special

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2016 17:01, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > >> Sure this part is only related to >> transaction processing as there was much more to the "five 9s" legacy, >> but imho, that is the heart of what was the precursor

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon > > > > wrote: > >>> On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database design and > usage. I've read it. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: > >> Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. > >> I am > >> running both DBs on

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Mick wrote: > Yes, same here, I would be interested to hear what the Postgres dev says, > should he respond to it. > One PostgreSQL dev's response - https://t.co/LfPlIPWulc -- { "name": "douglas j hunley", "email":

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 Jul 2016 06:38:01 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: > >> Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. > >> I am > >> running both DBs on different

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: >> >> Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. >> I am >> running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running >> MySQL on a

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways first. :p

[gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Mick
Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways first. :p https://eng.uber.com/mysql-migration/ -- Regards, Mick