Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-11 Thread Grant
So I would set up openvpn on my remote server and connect to it from: here's a few ideas about the subject, some options to think about. 1. my local print server for printing Look into routed vpn networks. If I were in your case I would probably set up a VPN server on (one of) my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:23:23 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cringe at the idea of having to use a VPN for imap, however. Why? Would you say the same of using it for SMTP? I read email rather compulsively I guess, and would hate to be bothered with VPNs, then use an encrypted mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 3 February 2008, Grant wrote: OK, port knocking is going back on the todo list. Note that I'm not claiming that portknocking is the solution to every security problem. Only that it has its uses in certain scenarios. A drawback of portknocking is that it requires modified clients

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
Well thank you for that. I had planned on setting up port knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them listening on 22 and 631? Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting trusted traffic.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:27:24 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well thank you for that. I had planned on setting up port knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them listening on 22 and 631? Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:27:12 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well thank you for that. I had planned on setting up port knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them listening on 22 and 631? Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: I don't know about large setups, where it might be very possible that port knocking becomes a major PITA as you say. But I have setup and used port knocking for remote ssh access lots of time in the past, and never had a problem. This is just my little experience, of course. OK,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
Well thank you for that. I had planned on setting up port knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them listening on 22 and 631? Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
That's more or less what I'm trying to do. Is setting up a VPN between my remote server and local network overkill? I think the only thing I'd use it for is to hide the sending of these printouts. I would speculate that a VPN for one service might be overkill, if that service is easy to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:06:47 -0800 kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant wrote: I don't know about large setups, where it might be very possible that port knocking becomes a major PITA as you say. But I have setup and used port knocking for remote ssh access lots of time in the past,

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying ssh running on an unusual port is good enough? For some value of good enough, yes. I'm no expert, but from my logs: SSH attempts (from bots in Shanghai and the like) on port 22 number in the thousands, unexpected SSH

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices and the like at front offices or even remote storefronts and locations, but wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote offices anyway? That's more or less what I'm trying to do. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices and the like at front offices or even remote storefronts and locations, but wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote offices anyway? That's more or less what I'm trying to do. Is setting up a VPN between my remote

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:25:25 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I would set up openvpn on my remote server and connect to it from: here's a few ideas about the subject, some options to think about. 1. my local print server for printing Look into routed vpn networks. If I were in your

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: If someone then argues about source IP spoofing, just let him. If someone in your organisation is able to do it, make him your network admin. You're right, access to the printer can be given only to certain hosts. So simply using 'lpr file.pdf' on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 02 February 2008, James wrote: Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: If someone then argues about source IP spoofing, just let him. If someone in your organisation is able to do it, make him your network admin. You're right, access to the printer can be given only to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread Grant
If someone then argues about source IP spoofing, just let him. If someone in your organisation is able to do it, make him your network admin. You're right, access to the printer can be given only to certain hosts. So simply using 'lpr file.pdf' on the remote machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 2 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: port-knocking is the biggest load of fud (Microsoft products apart) I have heard about in ages. The term snake-oil comes to mind, as does security by obscurity and obfuscation which we all know is no security at all. Uhm. Security by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread Grant
port-knocking is the biggest load of fud (Microsoft products apart) I have heard about in ages. The term snake-oil comes to mind, as does security by obscurity and obfuscation which we all know is no security at all. Uhm. Security by obscurity is not good because it hides something *that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-02 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 02 February 2008 08:42:25 pm Grant wrote: port-knocking is the biggest load of fud (Microsoft products apart) I have heard about in ages. The term snake-oil comes to mind, as does security by obscurity and obfuscation which we all know is no security at all. Uhm.