Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I have a better question. Why is a 82 year old woman using Gentoo? If she installed Gentoo, updated Gentoo then she must be able to do something with Gentoo, right? Dale Sorry for this Dale, but if this list gets to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-11 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I have a better question. Why is a 82 year old woman using Gentoo? If she installed Gentoo, updated Gentoo then she must be able to do something with Gentoo, right? Dale Sorry for this Dale, but if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I really don't see why I'm the one getting banged on here but that's life sometimes. I saw a problem for a couple of months. It frustrated me but not enough to do anything about it. Solving it finally bubbled up high

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: I think you misunderstand or I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying it was udev that did this. I am pretty sure it was the kernel. All this happened when people with older IDE drives, myself included on my old machine, had to switch

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 07:09:40 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:53:19 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: BTW, pressing the touch sensitive button on the laptop to eject the CD won't work, neither will typing eject in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is one of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good reason to not be there, but you already fixed your stuff to make it do what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:26:04 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is one of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:26:04 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-08 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Life is full of silly and not-so-silly conventions and /dev/dvd is one of them. It has no good reason to be there, and equally no good reason to not be there, but you already fixed your stuff

[gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-07, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. It's been something like 6-8 years hasn't it? I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-01-07, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The new devices for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mick
On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: I think you misunderstand or I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying it was udev that did this. I am pretty sure it was the kernel. All this happened when people with older IDE drives, myself included on my old machine, had to switch to the new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my systems. All I know is that ID_PATH (from the old file) used to work and no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Jan 7, 2013 8:08 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2013 01:15:10 Michael Mol wrote: On Jan 7, 2013 8:08 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for wasting bandwidth. I suspect it's time for me to unsubscribe and just read gentoo-user in a list somewhere. Sad, but flotsam jetsam I suppose... Over an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-07 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:53:19 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 07 Jan 2013 07:35:32 Dale wrote: BTW, pressing the touch sensitive button on the laptop to eject the CD won't work, neither will typing eject in a terminal: $ eject eject: tried to use `/mnt/cdrom' as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 05 Jan 2013 20:44:07 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine but now I see it's on every

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Maybe this post will save someone else some time. Thanks Mark, but why do we have to make this file changes ourselves? Isn't it a bug? PS. I also have cd dvd /dev links missing. -- Regards, Mick I'd say it's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Maybe this post will save someone else some time. Thanks Mark, but why do we have to make this file changes ourselves? Isn't it a bug? PS. I also have cd dvd /dev links missing. -- Regards,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. I don't have, and have not had,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread William Kenworthy
On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:53 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was. The new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it was.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP This links goes to a specific post in the thread. Don't scroll or you will have to dig. The one to look far if it messes up is the post by NeddySeagoon. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6362608.html#6362608 More

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-06 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP This links goes to a specific post in the thread. Don't scroll or you will have to dig. The one to look far if it messes up is the post by NeddySeagoon.

[gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine but now I see it's on every machine I've looked at this morning. Not a single

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore

2013-01-05 Thread David M. Fellows
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:44:07 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote - On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I think I touched on this a couple of weeks ago but never had time to dig in. At that time I thought this problem was only on one machine but now I see it's on