[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-26, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Some devs take this stuff too personally. Only the devs? LOL

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:46:06PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It sounds really cool Sabayon, I should probably try it one of these days. I'd say it's my favorite distro. Sadly, equo still doesn't know how to depclean. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what will happen should you not specify a preference, then what _does_ default mean? -- Grant Edwards

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/11/2014 18:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what will happen should you not specify a preference, then what

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window frame button and have argued that it

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-25, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 18:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced*

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: This is really an incorrect (and even borderline arrogant) answer... To answer the OPs question correctly... Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/23/2014 1:00 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such OpenRC is and will be 100% fully supported.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Irrelevant. Since OpenRC is the default init system, any package that doesn't work properly with it would, by definition, be a bug that must be fixed - if the maintainer wants their package to be marked as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/23/2014 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they lack such support. Gentoo policy does NOT require maintainers to support any particular init

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:25:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they lack such support. Gentoo policy does NOT require maintainers to support any particular init

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:25:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they lack such support.

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 02:34:52PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Oh my. So it's the name of the project and (one) author? All the design and ideas behind it are irrelevant then? You just gave me the most perfect justification to never ever take you seriously in this subject. Good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/11/2014 20:35, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 1:00 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/11/2014 22:25, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: The current Gentoo policy is that maintainers cannot block other devs from adding support for systemd/openrc/etc to their packages if they lack such support. Gentoo policy does NOT require

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/23/2014 4:21 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is no such thing as the default init system. There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. Lol! That is what I would call a 'default'...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/11/2014 23:45, Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/23/2014 4:21 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is no such thing as the default init system. There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. Lol! That is what I would call a