Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:28 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Not sure how long ago this was. I'm planning on redoing the whole laptop in > the near future anyway. > > If anyone knows of a better way (that works without TPM) I would like to hear > about it. > I'd read up on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On May 25, 2017 6:06:45 PM GMT+02:00, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:16 AM, J. Roeleveld >wrote: >> On May 25, 2017 1:04:07 PM GMT+02:00, Kai Krakow > wrote: >>>Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 >>>schrieb "J.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On May 25, 2017 1:04:07 PM GMT+02:00, Kai Krakow wrote: >>Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 >>schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : >> >>> It is possible. I have it set up like that on my

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Mick wrote: > Do either of these reduce the effect of (spinning) drive thrashing and > desktop latency increasing when swapping takes place? I never made any benchmarks. I just heard that some people are using the combination of both to avoid swap altogether (or only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On May 25, 2017 1:04:07 PM GMT+02:00, Kai Krakow wrote: >Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 >schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : > >> It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. >> Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 > schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : > >> It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. >> Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. >>

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Am Thu, 25 May 2017 08:34:10 +0200 schrieb "J. Roeleveld" : > It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. > Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. > Decryption keys are stored encrypted in the initramfs, which is > embedded in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Thursday 25 May 2017 04:45:24 Martin Vaeth wrote: > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > For similar needs I found zswap the most suitable, it's so much > > > better than zram: > This sounds like one is an alternative to the other. > This is not the case. It can even make sense to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On May 25, 2017 5:38:35 AM GMT+02:00, Kai Krakow wrote: >Am Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:36 -0700 >schrieb Rich Freeman : > >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman >> wrote: >> > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: >> > >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. Decryption keys are stored encrypted in the initramfs, which is embedded in the kernel. -- Joost On May 25, 2017 12:40:12 AM GMT+02:00, Rich Freeman

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Andrew Savchenko wrote: > For similar needs I found zswap the most suitable, it's so much > better than zram: This sounds like one is an alternative to the other. This is not the case. It can even make sense to use them together. For instance, the swap device necessarily

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Am Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:36 -0700 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman > wrote: > > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots > >> anyways (in

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Am Wed, 24 May 2017 11:34:20 -0700 schrieb Ian Zimmerman : > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > While I have no benchmarks and use the systemd default of tmpfs for > > /tmp, I also put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs, automounted through > > systemd so it is cleaned up when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Apparently it is pointless to encrypt swap if unencrypted > hibernation image is used, because all memory is accessible through > that image (and even if it is deleted later, it can be restored > from hdd and in some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:36 -0700 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots > >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected to survive reboots), so >> tmpfs is a logical consequence to use

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On 05/24/2017 08:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? I have long been in the camp that thinks tmpfs for /tmp has no advantages (and may have disadvantages) over a normal filesystem like ext3, because the files there are normally so small that

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > While I have no benchmarks and use the systemd default of tmpfs for > /tmp, I also put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs, automounted through > systemd so it is cleaned up when no longer used (by unmounting). > > What can I say? It works so much faster: Building

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Am Wed, 24 May 2017 08:00:33 +0200 schrieb Kai Krakow : > Am Wed, 24 May 2017 07:34:34 +0200 > schrieb gentoo-u...@c-14.de: > > > On 17-05-23 at 22:16, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? > > I use an ext4 partition

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

Am Wed, 24 May 2017 07:34:34 +0200 schrieb gentoo-u...@c-14.de: > On 17-05-23 at 22:16, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? > I use an ext4 partition backed by zram. Gives me ~3x compression on > the things I normally have lying around there