Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 just go 4x4 :D 16 CPU's and 128G of ram drool Dale wrote: | Neil Bothwick wrote: | On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:39:39 +0100, KH wrote: | | | only thing I found out until now is that flash is not working. Maybe | this is fixed by now. | | | Install

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:07 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:07 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:00:41 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 14 March 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an AMD64 machine running a 32-bit or 64-bit install run faster or slower with one or the other. Simple logic dictates that 32 and 64 apps will *generally* run at exactly the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Filipe Sousa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an | AMD64 machine running a 32-bit or 64-bit install run faster or slower | with one

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:45:21 + Filipe Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a few numbers from genlop -t Thanks much! This was interesting for me to read. I am surprised by how much faster 64bit system was for compiling these things. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Filipe Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an |

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Filipe Sousa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Filipe Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Nice numbers and nice machine. Must have set you back a bit. ;-) this machine was built by me just for gentoo. | It seems when I match up exact revisions

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. wb :) However, I do have a few worries - why has there been no

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-12 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 12:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Amar Cosic wrote: There should be gentoo-chat list There is one. We call it gentoo-user. It's a rite-of-passage thing. When you figure out the *real* purpose of gentoo-user, then we let you into the inner

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-12 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 04:12 -0500, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. brag I just installed Gentoo on a quad-core dual-cpu Xeon E5420 (2.50GHz). 8Gb RAM, 800Gb raid. It's not mine -

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-12 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Iain, on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:53:40PM +0930, you wrote: brag I just installed Gentoo on a quad-core dual-cpu Xeon E5420 (2.50GHz). 8Gb RAM, 800Gb raid. It's not mine - I've only convinced the sysadmin to let me play until it needs to be used for something real (what a waste to have

[gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Jamie Dobbs
I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. However, I do have a few worries - why has there been no 2007.1 release (there was a 2006.1 from what I recall)? There

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Jamie Dobbs wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. However, I do have a few worries - why has there been no 2007.1 release (there was a 2006.1 from

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread KH
Jamie Dobbs wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. However, I do have a few worries - why has there been no 2007.1 release (there was a 2006.1 from

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread KH
Dale wrote: Jamie Dobbs wrote: Also I'm not running at Athlon X2 system, ifs there any _real_ advantage to running AMD64 or should I still to x86? Just a few questions before I plunge in to it again :-) No clue on this one. I'm not building a 64 bit rig until I know I can use it and it

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Mazur
Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. However, I do have a few worries - why

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi Jamie, Jamie Dobbs schrieb: Also I'm not running at Athlon X2 system, ifs there any _real_ advantage to running AMD64 or should I still to x86? Just a few questions before I plunge in to it again :-) you need a 64-bit system only if you have more then 4GB memory on your pc. If not I

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. You and everybody else. Plus tons of ram, 1TB storage and a good graphics subsystem. Yeah! Uwe -- Informal Linux Group

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. Huh. Dunno about that. I have a Core2 Duo with 2G RAM here and took kdeenablefinal out of USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all.   Compile times would be pretty short.  ;-)  Woo Ooo. Huh. Dunno about that. I have a Core2 Duo with 2G RAM here and took kdeenablefinal out of USE last night. Started emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: P. S.  Is this coming through as plain text? Yes. They all do that, sir :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -ep world | genlop -p These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...) SNIP one lng list Estimated update time: 1 day, 20 hours, 53 minutes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Hmmm.

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:39:39 +0100, KH wrote: only thing I found out until now is that flash is not working. Maybe this is fixed by now. Install nspluginwrapper and the vast majority of flash sites work. Progress is being made then. The last I heard the

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2008 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all.   Compile times would be pretty short.  ;-)  Woo Ooo. Huh. Dunno about that. I have a Core2 Duo with 2G RAM here and took

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. You and everybody else. Plus tons of ram, 1TB storage and a good graphics subsystem. Yeah! Uwe -- Informal Linux Group

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Robert Stockdale IV wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Kristian Poul Herkild [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: BTW, you can reduce the downloads by a large margin using deltup. Uwe Dial-up user reporting in here. What is this feature you speak of here? How does this work? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Kristian Poul Herkild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. You and everybody else. Plus tons

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:39:39 +0100, KH wrote: only thing I found out until now is that flash is not working. Maybe this is fixed by now. Install nspluginwrapper and the vast majority of flash sites work. -- Neil Bothwick Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: I also see that kde-4.0.2 just hit portage, complete with 345M of sources to be downloaded. It's compiling here right now. On two boxes using distcc. BTW, you can reduce the downloads by a large margin using deltup. The other lads in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: P. S. Is this coming through as plain text? Yes. They all do that, sir :-) Thanks. Any time they don't, let me know. Here or any other list. I'll get my hammer if needed. :-@ Dale :-) :-) --

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:29:59 +0100 (CET), Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Make it 2 TB - 1 TB is not enough. But what a machine to compile OO.o with... not bad, ehh? *drooling* Forget compiling OOo, that machine would be fast enough to run it ;-) -- Neil Bothwick In space, no one can hear you

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Amar Cosic
There should be gentoo-chat list -- Amar Ćosić [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] +38761240095 http://www.amar.co.ba

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: KDE 3 is known for its long build times. Thanks to the new build system, KDE 4 builds orders of magnitude faster (kdelibs 4 build takes way less than an hour on my Core 2 Duo laptop, while kdelibs 3 takes more than 3 hours). Oh, oh, oh. 1 hour

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:29:59 +0100 (CET), Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Make it 2 TB - 1 TB is not enough. But what a machine to compile OO.o with... not bad, ehh? *drooling* Forget compiling OOo, that machine would be fast enough to run it

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Amar Cosic wrote: There should be gentoo-chat list There is one. We call it gentoo-user. It's a rite-of-passage thing. When you figure out the *real* purpose of gentoo-user, then we let you into the inner circle. Next week's lesson is to figure out the *real* mailing

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: BTW, you can reduce the downloads by a large margin using deltup. Uwe Dial-up user reporting in here. What is this feature you speak of here? How does this work? Instead of downloading the whole tarball of a new version of a

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 11 March 2008 07:22:38 Jamie Dobbs wrote: I do have a few worries - why has there been no 2007.1 release (there was a 2006.1 from what I recall)? Gentoo does not have versions. What you're quoting is the version of the installation CD, which doesn't have to keep up with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2008 schrieb ext Uwe Thiem: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: KDE 3 is known for its long build times. Thanks to the new build system, KDE 4 builds orders of magnitude faster (kdelibs 4 build takes way less than an hour on my Core 2 Duo laptop, while

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:39:39 +0100, KH wrote: only thing I found out until now is that flash is not working. Maybe this is fixed by now. Install nspluginwrapper and the vast majority of flash sites work. cool. Never missed it but it's nice to have it. Thanx

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jamie Dobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been away from Gentoo for the last year or so and using Ubuntu but find that I want to return to Gentoo simply because of the level of customization that I can do with it. Well then, welcome back. SNIP Also I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Naga
On Tuesday 11 March 2008 11:02:16 Dale wrote: [...] I'm sticking with KDE 3 right now. With this dial-up and the frequency of updates, it's just not worth it right now. By the time I get it updated a new set of updates is coming out. Guess I'm nuts since I run kde-svn... ;) -- Naga --

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 11. März 2008, Jamie Dobbs wrote: However, I do have a few worries - why has there been no 2007.1 release (there was a 2006.1 from what I recall)? security problems popping up always at the wrong time made it almost impossible. So they scrapped it and concentrated on doing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Naga wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008 11:02:16 Dale wrote: [...] I'm sticking with KDE 3 right now. With this dial-up and the frequency of updates, it's just not worth it right now. By the time I get it updated a new set of updates is coming out. Guess I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: wellwhaddayaknow. There's at least one person in the world more nuts than me: kde-4.0.2 e17-cvs :-) Make that two. o_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread BRM
--- Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:39:39 +0100, KH wrote: only thing I found out until now is that flash is not working. Maybe this is fixed by now. Install nspluginwrapper and the vast majority of flash sites work. Yep, running AMD64 at home. For the most

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: wellwhaddayaknow. There's at least one person in the world more nuts than me: kde-4.0.2 e17-cvs :-) Make that two. o_O Bugger. Here's me thinking I was unique in the world. I reckon that fellow who was hinting earlier

Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

2008-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:08:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Bugger. Here's me thinking I was unique in the world. You are, just like everyone else :) -- Neil Bothwick Did you hear about the blind prostitute? You have to hand it to her. signature.asc Description: PGP signature