Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 12. Mai 2006 23:21 schrieb ext Richard Fish: What I would really like to see is something like reiser4's plugin scheme brought up to the VFS layer in the kernel, so that any filesystem could gain transparent compression. Hmm, wouldn't that be a device mapper task, just like

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-15 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/14/06, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would really like to see is something like reiser4's plugin scheme brought up to the VFS layer in the kernel, so that any filesystem could gain transparent compression. Hmm, wouldn't that be a device mapper task, just like dm-crypt?

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Zac Slade
On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:51, W.Kenworthy wrote: What can I use for a compressed file system? I am looking at setting up a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into. Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I want to do a whole system

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread ted leslie
since you are not looking at writing to this fs, then you can use cloop or squashfs for example, gentoo uses squashfs for its live cd/dvd squashfs is considered better, but both are in use on live cd/dvd, cloop was (At least partially) written by the knoppix dude. typically you get 2.5:1

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread William Kenworthy
This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and this method doesnt keep versions. Trying to keep incrementals using this has proven to be a disaster. BillK On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 23:25 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 5/11/06, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread William Kenworthy
I already use reiserfs with notail, but potentially 60G wont go into 40G of space without compression, and then there is trying to keep versions ... Its notail is also irrelevant if you backup into a single file. Same for LVM snapshots (though in this case its a non-LVM laptop that I want

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/12/06, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and this method doesnt keep versions. Trying to keep incrementals using this has proven to be a disaster. Again, checkout dar. It is specifically designed for doing

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher
William Kenworthy wrote, regarding Squashfs: and you need at least the uncompressed space to create the image ... not useful here. Wrong, you need sufficient disk space to create the compressed filesystem, that is all. Phillip Lougher -- View this message in context:

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher
ted leslie wrote: big negative (unless fixed in recent releases) is you need enough ram/VM to hold the entire fs (to be compressed) in memory. So if you have 512MB ram and a 1GB VM allocation, the biggest fs you can archive using cloop/squashfs would be 2.5GB (approx), that compresses down

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher
William Kenworthy wrote This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and this method doesnt keep versions. Trying to keep incrementals using this has proven to be a disaster. Even though Squashfs is read-only (and so is tar, cpio etc.), you can append to pre-existing

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher
Richard Fish write: From what I can tell, there are no really good compressing filesystems available currently. I would disagree, Squashfs is an advanced read-only compressing filesystem, which uses numerous techniques to obtaIn high compression ratios while also being fast. Some of the

Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/12/06, plougher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish write: From what I can tell, there are no really good compressing filesystems available currently. I would disagree, Squashfs is an advanced read-only compressing filesystem, I should have said read-write filesystem. What I would

[gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-11 Thread W.Kenworthy
What can I use for a compressed file system? I am looking at setting up a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into. Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I want to do a whole system backup that so far is 2:1 compressed via tar.bzip2. I