Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, William Kenworthy wrote: get the device to tell you that its IP has changed? I use a linux box behind an old DSL300 for the above that extracts the IP number from the interface connected to the DSL300 every 60 seconds. If its changed, this triggers an update to dyndns (via

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Mick
On Sunday 14 January 2007 09:46, Jorge Almeida wrote: I presume OpenWRT can run scripts to do something similar? I think it can run user-made scripts (that's the point, after all), but my experience with OpenWRT is nil. I can cook up the script easily enough, but I don't know about ezupdate

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-14 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:59:13 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What seems great about OpenWRT is the possibility of installing packages. Only debian packages made for OpenWRT. I guess I'll have to learn about that... Me too. I would also like to learn how to cross compile

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread Mick
On Thursday 11 January 2007 22:15, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Well, you can disable router firewalling and firewalling your box, why not? Actually, that's the most sensible thing to do. I think I was confused and said nonsense. The box having a private IP

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Mick wrote: That's how I have set up mine. The Netgear [ADSL modem/NAT router/SPI firewall (statefull packet inspection)] box does its tricks, inc. acting as a DHCP, DNS server and gateway for the boxen on the LAN, while each LAN machine has an additional layer of

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 22:42 +, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Mick wrote: That's how I have set up mine. The Netgear [ADSL modem/NAT router/SPI firewall (statefull packet inspection)] box does its tricks, inc. acting as a DHCP, DNS server and gateway for the boxen on

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it. Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: The firewall and router you get with an ADSL modem are essentially free these days. If you need more then what is in the router, nothing prevents you from building a box for traffic monitoring and advanced routing later. Good point. You

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread b.n.
Jorge Almeida ha scritto: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: Generally, these devices provide full DHCP, DNS,NTP, Port/Host based routing/firewalling etc, and all users are NAT'ed behind it. Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of gettting the PPP stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Generally, the modem handles all the potentially difficult nasties of gettting the PPP stuff underway, and you cant even tell what your external IP is unless you query the modems web interface. To the user, you can just be 192.168.1.50, and the modem

[gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of course, I can't do any testing... According to

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Graham Murray
Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread b.n.
Jorge Almeida ha scritto: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever from the provider's staff. Of course, I can't do

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Buying an hardware router with DHCP will avoid you any hassle. I did this way at my parent's home and everything runs perfectly. Of course I'm talking of a 24/7 connection. Probably that's what I want, but how can I know? The handbook doesn't talk about

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 12:43, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 20:32, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Buying an hardware router with DHCP will avoid you any hassle. I did this way at my parent's home and everything runs perfectly. Of course I'm talking of a 24/7 connection. Probably that's what I

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 22:06, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: If you use a router, the usual DHCP configuration (for wired or wireless ethernet) applies. Of course, the above is true if you configure your router to act as a DHCP server (the most common setup with an ADSL router, at least in my

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread b.n.
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay later because that simple interface

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay later because that

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:35:39 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. He's going to need an ADSL modem, so why not get one with a router built in? In fact, here in the

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, b.n. wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable of doing. It's an unnecessary expense, and while initial configuration *might* be easier you'll pay

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:15, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Firstly, ignore those that want you to buy another piece of hardware to do something your computer is perfectly capable

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) can be configured to handle all the pppoe-ness and simply provide an ethernet connection. Depending on your service plan, you'll then simply run a DHCP client or statically

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 17:20, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL': On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) can be configured to handle all the pppoe-ness

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/11/07, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Well, I knew you'd need a ADSL modem. Some of these (IIRC ours even) can be configured to handle all the pppoe-ness and simply provide an ethernet connection. Depending on your service

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:43:26 +0300, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap without internet access and that I can't expect any support whatsoever

Re: [gentoo-user] moving to ADSL

2007-01-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:07 +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:43:26 +0300, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to switch from cable to ADSL anytime soon, and I'm trying to prepare the computer for the big change, given that there will be a time gap