Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 01/11/2013 03:04:01 PM, walt wrote: This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a

[gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread walt
This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because many apps including lvm2 install their udev config scripts in

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:04 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Sascha Cunz
[...] But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which wasn't yet in the tree yesterday), and I don't use LVM, but I'm wondering if the LVM problem happens when you use an initramfs. I'm guessing it doesn't,

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz sascha...@babbelbox.org wrote: [...] But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which wasn't yet in the tree yesterday), and I don't use LVM, but I'm wondering if the

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz sascha...@babbelbox.org wrote: [...] But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz sascha...@babbelbox.org wrote: [...] But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42:37AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote No, because the problem has never been in udev (nor systemd, for that matter). It fixes how *Gentoo* packages udev; probably the devs read the following comment from Lennart (note it was written almost a month ago):

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 06:04:01AM -0800, walt wrote: This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because many apps

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42:37AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote No, because the problem has never been in udev (nor systemd, for that matter). It fixes how *Gentoo* packages udev; probably the devs read the

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 05:33:30PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: The systemd defenders are using separate /usr as a wookie defense in an attempt to divert attention form the main issue. Separate /usr is actually a secondary issue. The main issue is whether or not we get systemd rammed down