Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote:
If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric questionable
attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password.
I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles.
Huh?
090517 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
it's just a list of Do you want to ... ? which you can't save easily.
Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?.
Yes (red
On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?.
Yes (red face). However, the crucial option here was ATA_SFF ,
for which 'make oldconfig' gives :
ATA SFF support (ATA_SFF) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
This option adds
090518 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get :
I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :)
I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a mixture
of SATA and PATA disks,
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090518 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get :
I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :)
I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a mixture
090518 bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ...
Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu.
I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop
to *work*, and I cannot afford to be consistently bitten by such
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090518 bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ...
Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu.
I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop
to *work*, and I cannot afford to be
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote:
So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats
down a binary distro.
Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary
distro is unfixable just
On Monday 18 May 2009 18:42:54 bn wrote:
But anyway you have packages in Gentoo or in Ubuntu: in Gentoo you are
stuck with what whatever the packagers give you the same. You probably
have more versions available and some more flexibility, but that's it.
So, I would really want to understand
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote:
Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from
source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS settings in make.conf, you
can optimize the binaries you produce to take full advantage of your
processor, which you can't do on
090518 bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you.
whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out.
If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu),
I can edit it on Ubuntu just like on Gentoo.
I can
William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote:
So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats
down a binary distro.
Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary
distro is unfixable just because I had someone
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:59:14 William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:39:48PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote:
Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from
source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS settings
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Genuine analysis of Gentoo machines admined by someone who knows how to do it
should that the machine can easily have only the features and software on it
that the admin say it should have. Like LDAP - not everyone needs it. On a
binary distro, if the maintainer
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090518 bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you.
whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out.
If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu),
I can edit it on Ubuntu just
On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote:
If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric questionable
attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password.
I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles.
Huh?
The package you are talking
bn ha scritto:
2) What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of when upgrading
to latest kernel? I confess that reading CHANGELOGs didn't help me too
much, quite confusing.
I resume this thread because I read ofthings like that (/dev/sr0 has
disappeared thread):
You need to enable
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 16:46 +0100, bn wrote:
So, what kind of traps like that should I expect?
I expect things like that to have potentially changed with every point
release of the 2.6 kernel, since the numbering scheme is practically
useless now. Every 2.6.XX release has the potential for
090517 bn wrote:
What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of
when upgrading to latest kernel? I resume this thread
because I read of things like /dev/sr0 has disappeared
You need to enable this to make CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON visible.
... THAT's what happened to it !! This is the
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
it's just a list of Do you want to ... ? which you can't save easily.
Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. Guess what
happens when you press?
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
it's just a list of Do you want to ... ? which you can't save easily.
Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. Guess
Adam Carter ha scritto:
Now I want to ask the list:
1) Does anyone have a recent kernel config for this kind of machine?
Just copy your .config file to the new kernel source directory and run make
oldconfig. This runs through the old config file and prompts you to select
what you want for
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM, bn brullonu...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but this means recompiling all external modules (nvidia, madwifi)
every time I boot in a new kernel if I want them to work, isn't it?
I think those modules get installed into kernel-version-specific
directories in
My Gentoo laptop is a Macbook Pro SantaRosa (late 2007, probably
MA896LL/A , following wikipedia). Since I use it for work I've always
been quite conservative with it... it is an x86 machine and I upgrade
things only after having read things here and there on the ML and
possibly elsewhere
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