Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 15 Dezember 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:04:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: LVM's support for mirroring and striping is exceptionally crude to say the least. You will also have problems if your stripes do not align with the underlying volume. Seeing as LVM is

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Grant
Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:59:39 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: So it's fair to say you don't like MB RAID, then? ;-) I think it's a great idea, just one that no one seems to have implemented yet ... -- Neil Bothwick Who messed with my anti-paranoia shot? signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:04:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: LVM's support for mirroring and striping is exceptionally crude to say the least. You will also have problems if your stripes do not align with the underlying volume. Seeing as LVM is designed to make volume management easier and RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 December 2008 18:48:26 Grant wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Grant
I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 December 2008 20:38:59 Mark Knecht wrote: One reason to be concerned about ANY software RAID solution would be that when you boot something like a gparted CD to do some work you won't necessarily have the right driver on the CD so you won't be able to see the devices. A true

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Grant schrieb: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. So you don't care about

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:47:14 Florian Philipp wrote: Then I would use it (and the older disk) in an LVM volume group. LVM also supports mirroring (like RAID1) and striping (like RAID0) on a per-volume basis. That means that you could keep most of your data somewhere on the TB disk and

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread damian
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 Out of space with 320G? Have you considered putting your multimedia in an external hard drive?

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Grant
My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. So you don't care about security,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Dec 2008, at 02:49, Grant wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Dec 2008, at 16:31, Grant wrote: ... A RAID won't cause more heat or noise than a second drive but it will also How much perceived noise does a second drive create? See my other reply. I'd say if you don't care about redundancy, you should go for a single 1TB disk. I'd prefer a

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Grant
My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread damian
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 Out of space with 320G? Have you considered putting your multimedia in an external hard drive? What would be the benefit

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:36:35 -0800, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? -- Neil Bothwick I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Grant
This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. The only fans are the CPU fan and power supply fan. My video card blew a capacitor the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:42:30 -0800, Grant wrote: Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. I wasn't suggesting putting the insulation over the air vents ;-) -- Neil Bothwick To err is human; to

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 14 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. The only fans are the CPU fan and power

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 14 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Grant
My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Grant
On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that system over to the new drive as simple as

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Storage expansion options

2008-12-14 Thread Thanasis
on 12/15/2008 02:32 AM Grant wrote the following: On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that