Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:56:09AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote How is this better than a 500G filesystem mounted at /? Try wiping the OS and re-installing (or installing a different distro for that matter) with a 500G filesystem mounted at /... without backing up your data and restoring

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 September 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:45:15AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everything you want to, and more, without the compromises. There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to have an initrd (or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:30:55 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everything you want to, and more, without the compromises. There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to have an initrd (or initramfs). Sshh!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: Neil Bothwick wrote: Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everything you want to, and more, without the compromises. There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to have an initrd (or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: I wasn't aware of ext2online. Then forget it again. Resizing ext2/3 is done with resize2fs nowadays. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] The only case I can think of that *requires* initramfs right now is booting off a raid device Strangely enough, I am currently booting from a software raid device, so you don't need an initramfs for that either.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: I wasn't aware of ext2online. Then forget it again. Resizing ext2/3 is done with resize2fs nowadays. Oops, my bad. It comes from not using ext2/3 on my own personal machines, and many

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Do you even need one? Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a laptop) also be encrypted. Right. I think I might have confused the necessity to have an initramfs for LVM and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:19:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: emerged openoffice lately? :-) It pretty much always fails if you have 5G in /var/tmp/portage. On a laptop, that's 8% of my total disk space just sitting there free waiting for the day I emerge openoffice again. Umounting /var to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:14:12 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: OTOH, if you put /usr, /home, /var, /tmp and all the others on LVM, you could just leave the root partition unencrypted, as it wouldn't contain anything sensitive. Apart from some contents of /etc. -- Neil Bothwick DANGER! DANGER!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:54:44 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: Anything special if I put the LVM over a software raid? No, that's what I do. / is on a RAID-1 partition, then I have an LVM physical volume on a RAID-5 partition for /usr, /home et al. -- Neil Bothwick I wonder how much deeper would the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:45:15AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M is plenty. So put / on a regular partition, everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:19:29PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: What you can't do, and to my knowledge no regular fs can do, is to *reduce* a mounted partition But who would want to do that? I always need *more*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*

2007-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:08:04 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M is plenty. So put / on a regular partition, everything else in