On Sunday 17 May 2009 03:33:22 pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
As I see it, at the bottom of the stack you have a kernel and at the top
a user space app (the X server will do for an example). Plug in a USB
device that the app can use, and the kernel needs to make a node in /dev
for it if
Alan McKinnon wrote:
- only Linux has udev. Other OSes may not need, want or be willing to touch
udev with a bargepole.
Yes, udev is linux only. Replace udev with whatever is available on
other platforms in that diagram. I just used linux as an example...
Sorry for not making it clear.
But
On Sunday 17 May 2009 14:15:31 pk wrote:
But you have that in the current setup. Hal (for better or worse) is the
daemon. dbus is simply a message transport and can be omitted from the
conceptual diagram
Why is dbus needed? Why can't the user space apps talk to the user space
daemon
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have
upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't
compile with anything newer that I have tried.
Uh? last
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have
upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't
compile with
Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have
upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have
upgraded my
bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have
upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't
compile with anything newer that I have tried.
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be user
friendly. I'm about to make a fresh backup and
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote:
Dale ha scritto:
I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be
Mark Knecht wrote:
Dale,
As far as I can tell I'm not having any problems. This machine was
using a 2.6.28 kernel up until yesterday when I updated to 2.6.29-r4.
The point I'm trying to make is that this old driver and all the
kernels I have used up to now have all worked.
I noticed
On Sonntag 17 Mai 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sunday 17 May 2009 03:33:22 pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
As I see it, at the bottom of the stack you have a kernel and at the
top a user space app (the X server will do for an example). Plug in a
USB device that the app can use, and the
On Friday 15 May 2009, Tony Davison wrote:
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 12:25:07 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Is so OBVIOUSLY the correct way to go, and so OBVIOUSLY much easier.
Right? I mean, what kind of twit do you have to be to not understand
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm not sure who's criticizing DeviceKit, but it isn't me :-)
I guess it was me... :-)
I find this thread interesting:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-May/045561.html
...especially this:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-May/045574.html
Which
On Saturday 16 May 2009 19:14:17 pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm not sure who's criticizing DeviceKit, but it isn't me :-)
I guess it was me... :-)
I find this thread interesting:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-May/045561.html
...especially this:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 16 May 2009 19:14:17 pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm not sure who's criticizing DeviceKit, but it isn't me :-)
I guess it was me... :-)
I find this thread interesting:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-May/045561.html
Alan McKinnon wrote:
As I see it, at the bottom of the stack you have a kernel and at the top a
user space app (the X server will do for an example). Plug in a USB device
that the app can use, and the kernel needs to make a node in /dev for it if
it's not already there. The kernel should
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 12:25:07 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Is so OBVIOUSLY the correct way to go, and so OBVIOUSLY much easier.
Right? I mean, what kind of twit do you have to be to not understand the
hal files?
/tongue_in_cheek
On Friday 15 May 2009 22:38:30 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I
don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if
at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a
On Friday 15 May 2009 22:51:41 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 15 May 2009 22:38:30 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
pk wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it.
I don't even know if the devs will change and improve
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 13:02:28 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
[...]
but my real problem is that hal crap. In their fight to make x 'easier'
they make it harder. keyboard layout is incorrect? well, bad luck,
because hal's files are a bitch to deal with.
I suppose
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 13:02:28 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
[...]
but my real problem is that hal crap. In their fight to make x 'easier'
they make it harder. keyboard layout is incorrect? well, bad luck,
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