Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

>Sadly, your acid_demeanor precludes you from such opportunities. So if you change your mind and want to take a professional approach to palidromes, you >might just establish some new friendships. Think things over a bit and let me know should you want to access more aggressive resources. YES, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On May 31, 2016 9:23 AM, "James" wrote: > > Alan Grimes verizon.net> writes: > > Off the record, have you tried a systolic algorithm and using rDMA via > the DDR5 on a collection of GPUs to speed up your search? > > > James There's an algorithm to build Cantor's set

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, May 30, 2016 08:57:01 PM Alan Grimes wrote: >> Gregory Woodbury wrote: >>> What the...? >>> Do you have every package there is installed? The worst updates I >>> have seen >>> are only 40-50 packages. 403 being 25% implies around 1600 - 1700 >>> packages. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:32:47 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > The key difference is that I get to decide how I want my computer to > run. =| And your decisions are making it run the way it does, so what are you complaining about? If you want to to run better, you only have to decide that's how you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:48:46 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Have you read the emerge and portage man pages anytime in the last > > five years? > > I tried to extract useful information from the emerge manpage a few days > ago but it contained no useful information,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 31/05/2016 02:32, Alan Grimes wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess >> you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to >> do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell you >> that the way you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Monday, May 30, 2016 08:57:01 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > What the...? > > Do you have every package there is installed? The worst updates I > > have seen > > are only 40-50 packages. 403 being 25% implies around 1600 - 1700 > > packages. > > Actually that seems about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Monday, May 30, 2016 08:48:46 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Have you read the emerge and portage man pages anytime in the last five > > years? > > I tried to extract useful information from the emerge manpage a few days > ago but it contained no useful information, manpages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 29.05.2016 um 22:15 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: Well, he did reply. Either his script is still doing it or he did and he hasn't learned anything yet. It's funny

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Alan Grimes wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess >> you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to >> do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell you >> that the way you are doing things is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Am 31.05.2016 um 02:32 schrieb Alan Grimes: > Dale wrote: >> Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess >> you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to >> do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell you >> that the way you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Gregory Woodbury wrote: > What the...? > Do you have every package there is installed? The worst updates I > have seen > are only 40-50 packages. 403 being 25% implies around 1600 - 1700 > packages. > Actually that seems about right, but why are you getting that many > updates? You > may have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > Have you read the emerge and portage man pages anytime in the last five > years? I tried to extract useful information from the emerge manpage a few days ago but it contained no useful information, manpages are written in moonspeak anyway. I thought portage was just the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Dale wrote: > Do you really want a answer to that? Seriously? You asked so I guess > you do. Here it is. Yes! lol The way you do things, and continue to > do things, even after having several VERY experienced users tell you > that the way you are doing things is wrong pretty much says it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sunday 29 May 2016 08:13:03 Alan Grimes wrote: > You know what? fuck you. That's what. I don't have to put up with childish petulance like that. Plonk. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Newfags. Newfags everywhere. If you're going to fly by the seat of your pants you do it so other people don't have to. Complaining [too] loudly is counterproduxtive.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Am 29.05.2016 um 22:15 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: >> WOW! >> >> Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sun, 29 May 2016 08:13:03 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > You know what? fuck you. That's what. Helpful, really helpful. > Packages are being updated at such a breakneck pace these days that it > simply isn't humanly possible to review these manually, or even do > anything intelligent if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: >>> Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: > WOW! > > Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary > distribution > that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

»Q« wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016 08:13:03 -0400 > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> You know what? fuck you. That's what. > It's unclear whether you're attacking only Gregory or the entire > list. If the latter, would you consider unsubscribing? It looks as > though no one her is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 05/29/2016 02:20 AM, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> I have a weekly system health check cron job that includes revdep-rebuild >>> -pi (hint to Alan: that's the correct way to have revdep-rebuild ignore >>> the results of previous runs). It rarely finds anything.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: >> Håkon Alstadheim wrote: >>> Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: WOW! Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary distribution that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Alan Grimes wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: >> >> On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >> > thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding. >> >> Serves

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 05/29/2016 02:20 AM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> I have a weekly system health check cron job that includes revdep-rebuild >> -pi (hint to Alan: that's the correct way to have revdep-rebuild ignore >> the results of previous runs). It rarely finds anything. There's still >> the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 20:48:37 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > >>> Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebuild >>> step because >>> of the @preserved-rebuild set creation. >> I beg to differ, portage still misses stuff more often than you think. I >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Gregory Woodbury wrote: > > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding. > > Serves you right for being daft

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sun, 29 May 2016 12:26:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > You are both wrong. What Alan Grimes really wants is an excuse (any > excuse) to whine, whinge and bitch about $STUFF. > > Notice how he never replies to any thread he starts? The script isn't that intelligent yet. ${DEITY} help us when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: > Håkon Alstadheim wrote: >> Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: >>> WOW! >>> >>> Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary >>> distribution >>> that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to >>> review

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: >> WOW! >> >> Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary >> distribution >> that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to >> review what >> emerge is proposing and see if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 20:48:37 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > >>> Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebuild >>> step because >>> of the @preserved-rebuild set creation. >> I beg to differ, portage still misses stuff more often than you think. I >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, 28 May 2016 20:48:37 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebuild > > step because > > of the @preserved-rebuild set creation. > > I beg to differ, portage still misses stuff more often than you think. I > always run revdep-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sunday 29 May 2016 09:45:57 I wrote: > On Saturday 28 May 2016 12:06:20 Dale wrote: > > What is also a surprise, Alan hasn't figured out that his script is the > > problem. > > It's called stubbornness, obduracy, obstinacy, wilful self-flagellation - > choose your pick (as my Dad used to say

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Saturday 28 May 2016 12:06:20 Dale wrote: > What is also a surprise, Alan hasn't figured out that his script is the > problem. It's called stubbornness, obduracy, obstinacy, wilful self-flagellation - choose your pick (as my Dad used to say when the rock cakes came out). -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: > > WOW! > > Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary > distribution > that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to > review what > emerge is proposing and see if changes are needed first. > It IS

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 05/28/2016 06:17 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebuild step > because > of the @preserved-rebuild set creation. I beg to differ, portage still misses stuff more often than you think. I always run revdep-rebuild after an emerge. Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding. > > Serves you right for being daft enough to read it again! > > I'd suggest that Alan RTFM for the commands he

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding. Serves you right for being daft enough to read it again! I'd suggest that Alan RTFM for the commands he uses, but that would be a waste of keystrokes. -- Neil Bothwick One-seventh of life

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On 2016-05-28(01:49:22PM-0500), Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Gregory Woodbury wrote: > >> Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look > >> at? > >> > >> I get by really well with a small script that reads the eix outputs, > >> finds the "[U]" > >> tagged packages, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 28.05.2016 um 20:49 schrieb Dale: >> Dale wrote: >> >> What the heck. I went back and found it. It only took a few >> minutes. The rest of this message is the email where he has his >> script. I'll do my usual sign off at the bottom, rest is his post. >> For

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Am 28.05.2016 um 20:49 schrieb Dale: > Dale wrote: >> Gregory Woodbury wrote: >>> Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to >>> look at? >>> >>> I get by really well with a small script that reads the eix outputs, >>> finds the "[U]" >>> tagged packages, and then runs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Dale wrote: > Gregory Woodbury wrote: >> Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look >> at? >> >> I get by really well with a small script that reads the eix outputs, >> finds the "[U]" >> tagged packages, and then runs "emerge -u1" on that list. >> >> Doing anything more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 12:06:20 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> What is also a surprise, Alan hasn't figured out that his script is the >> problem. > I believe that there are actually two scripts at play here. One that does > its best to defeat portage's attempts to keep a system clean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look at? > > I get by really well with a small script that reads the eix outputs, > finds the "[U]" > tagged packages, and then runs "emerge -u1" on that list. > > Doing anything more than that will be a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 02:05:11PM -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look at? Yes. You can probably find it on gmane. It basically consists of running emerge with --keep-going and --ignore-failures multiple times, running some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, 28 May 2016 12:06:20 -0500, Dale wrote: > What is also a surprise, Alan hasn't figured out that his script is the > problem. I believe that there are actually two scripts at play here. One that does its best to defeat portage's attempts to keep a system clean and consistent and another

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

On Sat, 28 May 2016 14:05:11 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look > at? Yes, some are still recovering from the experience of seeing what it does! -- Neil Bothwick If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, will it make a sound?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

Has Alan ever posted his "jackhammer" script for some experts to look at? I get by really well with a small script that reads the eix outputs, finds the "[U]" tagged packages, and then runs "emerge -u1" on that list. Doing anything more than that will be a cause of pain and suffering. If a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

»Q« wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 12:05:02 -0400 > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> I feel that my jackhammer script has been deliberately defeated. > IMO, that's overly pessimistic. The script seems to be defeating > portage pretty consistently, and that's clearly the job it was