Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/12/17 10:34, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:26:26 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> Actually it was the New York World. So actually imho it was originally >>> perfectly legit. >> >> I don't agree. In that case it should have been called the New York >> World Series. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:26:26 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Actually it was the New York World. So actually imho it was originally > > perfectly legit. > > I don't agree. In that case it should have been called the New York > World Series. If they were paying for it, they could call it what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:32:32 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 30/12/17 12:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > [2nd random OT factoid] > > It's the "world series" because the first sponsor was a newspaper "News > > of the World" iirc (plus some typical US bravado) > > Actually it was the New York

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 14:32:32 +, Wols Lists wrote: > [3rd random OT factoid] > The News Of The World was a British tabloid, which shut down after the > phone hacking scandal - a lot of their stories were obtained by hacking > into celebrities, politicians, royals voicemails, and while it was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-30 Thread Wols Lists
On 30/12/17 12:55, Alan McKinnon wrote: > [2nd random OT factoid] > It's the "world series" because the first sponsor was a newspaper "News > of the World" iirc (plus some typical US bravado) Actually it was the New York World. So actually imho it was originally perfectly legit. As usual,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/12/2017 02:44, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 29 December 2017 16:45:33 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > >> (Plus, of course, so much development is done for the American market, >> so they don't realise how hard it is to get a change like A4 to stick :-( > > Damned colonials. It's like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 29 December 2017 16:45:33 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > (Plus, of course, so much development is done for the American market, > so they don't realise how hard it is to get a change like A4 to stick :-( Damned colonials. It's like the baseball "world series": no-one outside north America

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/12/17 16:13, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The only "correct" place for papersize nowadays is in whatever the user > is using to get something to print. And there are lots of those. > Something like CUPS ought to make it all so much easier but I find CUPS > just makes my life insanely difficult. So

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/12/2017 16:30, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 29 December 2017 13:57:31 GMT Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> I think the bug is that "A4" has to be set in so many places, where "so >> many" means more than one. In a well designed printing system, there >> would be just one place to set it. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Mick
On Friday, 29 December 2017 14:30:43 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think the bug is that "A4" has to be set in so many places, where "so > > many" means more than one. In a well designed printing system, there > > would be just one place to set it. > > And that would have to be /etc/papersize,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 29 December 2017 13:57:31 GMT Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think the bug is that "A4" has to be set in so many places, where "so > many" means more than one. In a well designed printing system, there > would be just one place to set it. And that would have to be /etc/papersize, no? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Mick. On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 13:51:01 +, Mick wrote: > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 06:14:23 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > For the record I would also like to add that using the duplexer on some > > poorly designed printers cuts off the bottom or top of the page without > > any type

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 28 December 2017 06:14:23 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > For the record I would also like to add that using the duplexer on some > poorly designed printers cuts off the bottom or top of the page without > any type of notification. Debugging cups and trying all conceivable combos of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-27 Thread taii...@gmx.com
For the record I would also like to add that using the duplexer on some poorly designed printers cuts off the bottom or top of the page without any type of notification.