Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alex Schuster
Pandu Poluan writes: On Mar 5, 2012 3:37 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Now I have a related question: My new seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003-9VT166 drive has 4096 bytes per sector, but uses something that is called SmartAlign(TM) [*]. Seagate says that there are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other  than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance need to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:33:20 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other  than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 5, 2012 4:59 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's working now.  The install is about done but there were a few peculiarities: 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's working now.  The install is about done but there were a few peculiarities: 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] HOWEVER, make sure that all partitions begin at multiples of 8 (e.g., 64, 72, 80, and so on); this will save you a lot of grief if it happens that the hard disk you're using has 4KiB-sectors. [1] snip the rest From what I recall of looking at that toy's specs, it's running on an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: Just to confirm, starting at block 2048 is OK? Yes, if it's divisible by 8, it's okay. That's because 512 * 8 = 4096, so every 8th 512-byte block starts on a 4096 block boundary. Now I have a related question: My new seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003-9VT166 drive has 4096

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects the first partition to start at sector 2048. You can force a lower number by toggling DOS compatibility; this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects the first partition to start at sector 2048. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects the first partition to start at sector 2048. You can force a lower number by toggling DOS compatibility; this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:56:23 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects the first partition to start at sector

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects the first partition to start at sector 2048. You can force a lower number by toggling DOS compatibility;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 3:37 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: Just to confirm, starting at block 2048 is OK? Yes, if it's divisible by 8, it's okay. That's because 512 * 8 = 4096, so every 8th 512-byte block starts on a 4096 block boundary. Now I have a related question:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 3:15 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] HOWEVER, make sure that all partitions begin at multiples of 8 (e.g., 64, 72, 80, and so on); this will save you a lot of grief if it happens that the hard disk you're using has 4KiB-sectors. [1] snip the rest From

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 4:59 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes So it doesn't matter where the first partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 5:10 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Correct. Those drives are all the same style as you've been using for years. If partitions start at 63, that's just an msdos convention. For reasons I've never understood, Windows liked to reserve the first 32k for some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 5:39 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: So fdisk used to enforce a block 63 start point and now it enforces a 2048 start point? fdisk is the one doing this? - Grant Yes. Like I posted before (and explained in the article I linked), if you turn off the compatibility mode,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Grant
I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to boot via a USB key. Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? Gentoo is installed but I can't get my USB-ethernet adapter to bring up an eth0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to boot via a USB key. Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? Gentoo is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 4, 2012 1:13 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's working now. The install is about done but there were a few peculiarities: 1. fdisk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
Oh iya, satu lagi yang perlu dihindari: wifi AP nya HP ProCurve / HP Networking. Nggak stabil. (Tapi kalau switch Layer 2 dan Layer 3 nya, HP ProCurve highly recommended). ((Ini berdasarkan hasil pengalaman saya di kantor yang sekarang.)) Rgds, On Mar 4, 2012 1:15 AM, Pandu Poluan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
Gah. I must be too tired; what I sent earlier was supposed to go another list. Sorry for the mistake, folks. Rgds, On Mar 4, 2012 1:22 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Oh iya, satu lagi yang perlu dihindari: wifi AP nya HP ProCurve / HP Networking. Nggak stabil. (Tapi kalau switch

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to boot via a USB key.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-02 Thread Grant
I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to boot via a USB key. Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? Gentoo is installed but I can't get my USB-ethernet adapter to bring up an eth0 (or