Re: [gentoo-user] bridge configuration problem
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:47:35PM +0100, Stroller wrote:
preup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} == br0 ]] ;
then sleep 30 ;
fi
return 0
}
$
Note that the preup is added in an attempt to overcome similar problems to
those you describe - starting or restarting the bridge doesn't always work
first time - but mine is still flakey.
Stroller.
After adding the preup() function, it works now!
--
Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You nasty horrible terrible man you. Did you have to remind me of that? :-) Notebook was delivered 10 days ago on a Friday. That night I read the post about it on slashdot. I'm so pissed about this card that I'm tending to ignore it and hope the problems will go away (which they won't...) It's a mobo :-( That means a motherboard replacement and I don't know what Dell SA's position is on this. I'll have to check with the company account manager, but I think my only recourse is going to be a Keep the customer happy! internal POV. That and the fact that we buy truckloads of their servers, and a standard 40% discount across the board on all Dell products. Wish me luck -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com You always have the option to keep using KDE 3.5.x until your driver problems are resolved. KDE4.1 is nice, but not a must have to get work done in most cases. Good luck in any case! Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Shell problem
Hi Felix, That what it exactly. I couldn't notice it because there were tons of files in that directory. I appreciate your help, Ivan On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 22:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:57:26PM +, Ivan Alden wrote: Hi all, I was working in a shell with tar and I changed something where now when I type * it interprets it as --exlucde i.e $ * bash: --exlucde: command not found or $ ls * ls: unrecognized option `--exlucde' Try `ls --help' for more information. Does this happen in every directory, or do you have a file named --exlucde that you created by mistake in the dir where this happens? That name would tend to sort first ahead of most other names. I can recreate it like this: $ touch ./--exlucde $ ls * ls: unrecognized option '--exlucde' Try `ls --help' for more information. $ and I can fix it like this: $ rm ./--exlucde $
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems using completely non-standard userlands... let's say, non-Unix tools on top of a Linux kernel. Only thing I can think about is (maybe) embedded systems or things using busybox, but in the latter case just imitating gnu or bsd userlands. Not that I have a real purpose for such a bizarre beast, I'm just curious. m. A while back I read something about people using a LLVM toolchain. I think it still includes gcc, but it was interesting (and if I remember correctly, it was attempted with gentoo). If I could just find the link? ahah http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1431222 Don't know if that's really what you're asking. Just ignore me Regards Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I ask it here because I really don't know where to ask it. Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems using completely non-standard userlands... let's say, non-Unix tools on top of a Linux kernel. Only thing I can think about is (maybe) embedded systems or things using busybox, but in the latter case just imitating gnu or bsd userlands. Not that I have a real purpose for such a bizarre beast, I'm just curious. m. A while back I read something about people using a LLVM toolchain. I think it still includes gcc, but it was interesting (and if I remember correctly, it was attempted with gentoo). If I could just find the link? ahah http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1431222 Don't know if that's really what you're asking. Just ignore me Regards Dirk
[gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?
Hi list, A few days ago I upgraded gcc from 4.1.2 to 4.3.1-r1 (upgrading Eclipse-sdk to the latest ~x86 version made installing gcc 4.3.1-r1 necessary, so I thought I would stick with it on my test box). Now I am re-emerging world and have noticed that a number of packages which compiled fine with the old gcc don't compile with the new version anymore and have to be unmasked in /etc/portage/package.keywords. QT4 is one of them, just to give an example. I don't really mind using the ~x86 version of these packages, but wonder why the old, stable packages won't compile with a newer gcc. Isn't gcc supposed to be downward compatible?
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?
2008/8/11, Peter Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't really mind using the ~x86 version of these packages, but wonder why the old, stable packages won't compile with a newer gcc. Isn't gcc supposed to be downward compatible? No, take a look here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?
You can put gcc 4.1 in a slot on your system and choose to compile programs that don't work with the newest version, with the old version: # emerge -av sys-devel/gcc:4.1 (you may have to unmask: echo =sys- devel/gcc-4.1.2 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords) # gcc-config -l # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 # source /etc/profile If you want to go back to the new version, just do again: # gcc-config -l # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.1-r1 # source /etc/profile On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2008/8/11, Peter Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't really mind using the ~x86 version of these packages, but wonder why the old, stable packages won't compile with a newer gcc. Isn't gcc supposed to be downward compatible? No, take a look here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc not downward compatible?
Probably this sequence needs appropriate c-flags changing in make.conf file after each switching (if I use different ones for 4.3 and 4.3). Doesn't it? === On Monday 11 August 2008, Jan Schneiders wrote: === You can put gcc 4.1 in a slot on your system and choose to compile programs that don't work with the newest version, with the old version: # emerge -av sys-devel/gcc:4.1 (you may have to unmask: echo =sys- devel/gcc-4.1.2 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords) # gcc-config -l # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 # source /etc/profile If you want to go back to the new version, just do again: # gcc-config -l # gcc-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.1-r1 # source /etc/profile On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2008/8/11, Peter Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't really mind using the ~x86 version of these packages, but wonder why the old, stable packages won't compile with a newer gcc. Isn't gcc supposed to be downward compatible? No, take a look here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121
[gentoo-user] Server migration
In short, I am working on a server migration going from a physical box to a virtual system. I pretty much need everything (software-wise) identical. What is the best way to do that? I was looking at outputting the data from equery to a file, then emerging everything in that file. Is there an easier way to do this? -- Matthew Daubenspeck http://oddprocess.org Gentoo Linux x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 165 11:30:21 up 273 days, 2:18, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[gentoo-user] Re: [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: Is there a Linux system somewhere with a *non-GNU* userland? Linux From Scratch allows you to build from the kernel up. I'm sure there are efforts (both dead and struggling) to do something similar to that you have articulated here, in this discussion. Volker's comments are worth reading again. I wonder in particular if: - there are Linux systems using the BSD userlands - there are Linux systems using completely non-standard userlands... let's say, non-Unix tools on top of a Linux kernel. Why insist on a Linux kernel? BSD has many derivatives. One of the largest RTOS vendors builds extensively on the native work of BSD. Now they also have an 'embedded linux' that you can purchase That have many device drivers (on both the embedded linux and BSD sides of their offerings) and they charge a fortune to use any of their products. Only thing I can think about is (maybe) embedded systems or things using busybox, but in the latter case just imitating gnu or bsd userlands. If you build a system and use a compiler and do not include the compiler as part of the finished system then you may find avenues to escape the encumberances of GNU. Lots of different opinions on this approach. Certainly folks use the GNU tool chain or part thereof to build proprietary embedded systems (no linux or BSD kernel) routinely without GNU controlling their destiny. Alternatively, Here's a link to wet your appetite: http://www.rtems.com/ Not that I have a real purpose for such a bizarre beast, I'm just curious. What you seek is a very arduous task, as Volker has delineated. My recommendation is you look at OpenBSD and get to know the (cult) following of 'The Rat'. Funny thing is he has actually received funding from several governments and other dark ops. Lots of fun that maniacal genius is. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:31 -0400, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: In short, I am working on a server migration going from a physical box to a virtual system. I pretty much need everything (software-wise) identical. What is the best way to do that? I was looking at outputting the data from equery to a file, then emerging everything in that file. Is there an easier way to do this? The easiest thing to do would be to migrate system, P2V, as is. I dont' know what virtual server software you are using, but there are tools to do this (plus with Linux it's easy enough doing manually). Aside from that if you actually want to re-build the box from scratch, I'd copy the /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/* and /var/lib/portage/world file over and, after performing a stageX install, do a emerge -va `cat world` -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:44:43AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: The easiest thing to do would be to migrate system, P2V, as is. I dont' know what virtual server software you are using, but there are tools to do this (plus with Linux it's easy enough doing manually). Aside from that if you actually want to re-build the box from scratch, I'd copy the /etc/make.conf, /etc/portage/* and /var/lib/portage/world file over and, after performing a stageX install, do a emerge -va `cat world` I am migrating from an amd64 based colo server to a linode system that is not amd64, so I don't think most of the automated methods would work, although I could be wrong... -- Matthew Daubenspeck http://oddprocess.org Gentoo Linux x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 165 11:47:52 up 273 days, 2:35, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.03, 0.01
[gentoo-user] gnome update blocks
Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 [2.6.31] USE=python readline -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -test 4,612 kB [ebuild U ] app-text/rarian-0.8.0-r1 [0.6.0-r1] USE=-debug 331 kB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/atk-1.22.0 [1.20.0] USE=-debug -doc 693 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libxklavier-3.6 [3.3] USE=-doc 452 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/libsoup-2.4.1 USE=ssl -debug -doc 614 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.13 [2.14.12] USE=-debug -doc 723 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.20 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 USE=X alsa* -a52 -dvb -dvd -esd -ffmpeg -flac -mad -mpeg -mythtv -ogg -oss -theora -vorbis -xv 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/pango-1.20.5 [1.20.3] USE=X -debug -doc 1,388 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/intltool-0.37.1 [0.35.5] 136 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.22.0 [2.20.4] USE=-debug -doc 1,412 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-debug 769 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygobject-2.14.2 [2.14.1] USE=X%* -debug -doc -examples -libffi% 359 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.0.6 USE=X bzip2 jpeg perl png* zlib -djvu -doc -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig -jpeg2k -lcms -nocxx -openexr -q32 -q8 -svg -tiff -truetype -wmf -xml 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=-debug 3,581 kB [ebuild R ] net-print/cups-1.3.7-r1 USE=X acl dbus jpeg nls pam perl png* python ssl -avahi -java -kerberos -ldap -php -ppds -samba -slp -static -tiff -zeroconf LINGUAS=-de -en -es -et -fr -he -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.10-r1 [2.12.9-r2] USE=X cups jpeg vim-syntax -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama 15,851 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -doc -ldap 1,384 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 672 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gail-1.22.3 [1.20.2] USE=-debug -doc 659 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.14.3 [2.12.2] USE=X%* -accessibility -debug -static 659 kB [ebuild R ] app-i18n/scim-1.4.5-r1 USE=gtk -doc (-kde%) (-qt3%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.12.1-r2 [2.12.0] USE=X%* -doc -examples (-opengl%*) 2,125 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=hal pam -debug -doc -test 884 kB [ebuild U ] x11-wm/metacity-2.22.0 [2.20.2] USE=-debug -xinerama 2,024 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gvfs-0.2.5 USE=gnome hal -avahi -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -samba 808 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-accessibility -debug 1,464 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/gucharmap-2.22.3 [1.10.2] USE=cjk gnome -debug 2,574 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=python -debug 455 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/vte-0.16.14 [0.16.13] USE=opengl python -debug -doc 1,095 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=acl hal ssl -avahi -debug -doc -fam% -gnutls -ipv6 -kerberos -samba 1,895 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.22.0 [2.20.1.1] USE=-debug -doc -esd 1,375 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=zlib -debug -doc (-gnome%*) 454 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug -doc 983 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.22.1 [2.20.1.1] USE=jpeg -debug -doc 1,417 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 1,411 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.22.0 [2.20.0-r1] USE=-debug 397 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.22.3 [2.18.4] USE=-debug 1,761 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.22.0 [2.20.1] USE=-debug -doc -examples 527 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/eel-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug 584 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.22.1-r1 [2.20.0] USE=xulrunner -beagle -debug -lzma% 973 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.22.5.1 [2.20.0-r1] USE=X gnome -beagle -debug (-esd%) (-tracker%) 4,900 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.20.7 [2.20.3] USE=pam tcpd -accessibility -afs -branding -debug -dmx -gnome-keyring% -ipv6 -remote (-selinux) -xinerama 3,889 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-control-center-2.22.2.1 [2.20.3] USE=hal -debug -eds -esd (-alsa%) 2,061 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.22.2.1 USE=alsa -debug -esd -gstreamer 1,113 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=branding tcpd -debug -ipv6 (-esd%) 756 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.3 [2.20.1] USE=acpi gnome hal -apm -debug -doc -gstreamer -ipv6 -test 7,333 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libgweather-2.22.3 USE=-debug 6,123 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc -eds -networkmanager% 3,179 kB [blocks B ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.0 (is blocking dev-libs/libgweather-2.22.3) [blocks B ]
Re: [gentoo-user] Discover IP address of random Windows boxes on network?
You could try findsmb, its part of samba. It will list all systems which respond to netbios requests, on your network. -dave Mark Knecht wrote: Is there a simple way for me to discover the IP address of any random Windows machine that dropped by and hooked up to my network? Extra points if there's a way to discover if a machine has attached by wireless. Thanks, Mark smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Server migration
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: I am migrating from an amd64 based colo server to a linode system that is not amd64, so I don't think most of the automated methods would work, although I could be wrong... Linode? Like http://www.linode.com/? If so, they're starting to support 64-bit (e.g. the Ubuntu 8.04 image), so if you wanted to do that, you could probably work something out. --
Re: [gentoo-user] Adding a gentoo workstation to Active Directory network
Thanks everyone. I was actually hoping for a read the google, newb response, as long as it had the right search terms, cause I didn't have a clue what to google for :). So again, thanks, I've downloaded a pile of howto's to my workstation and I work on it on my dead time. On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jil Larner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I recently set up samba to allow authentification against Active Directory for file sharing on a CentOS 4.5. Even if their installer is supposed to do it correctly, it didn't work the way I wanted, so I had to understand how to set it up manually. The main problem I found with documentations is that there's no one-shot documentation that allows you to join a domain if you meet so many obscure error messages like I had. I have more knowledge on Gentoo than centOs (so redhat), but what I say here has only been tested on centOS. Unfortunately for you, I'm on hollydays and won't go back to office until second part of October, so I can only tell you what I remember : You need : - a Kerberos client - a ntp daemon to set your clock according to your domain controller (more than 5 minutes offset will lead kerberos not to deliver tickets) - samba with winbind support - manually record your machine in the DNS used by AD Set up samba with ads security (refer to the official samba howto) Be sure your smb.conf has winbind configuration directives Files I remember I updated (CentOS architecture) : - /etc/samba/smb.conf - /etc/sysconfig/network (for the hostname of your machine to be the FQDN e.g. tux.mywindows.domain.corp and `hostname --fqdn` must immediately answer) = /etc/conf.d/hostname on gentoo - /etc/nsswitch.conf to add winbind for a few things (passwd,group,shadow if I remember, with less priority than file; otherwise it will be long to log in as a local user) - /etc/krb5.conf /etc/krb.conf[backward compatibility, may not be needed on gentoo; try without that's one file less to manage] (documentations give the few lines required) You'll also have to modify PAM config files for local access matching against AD, but I didn't tried it. Before you frag your brain out with samba and winbind, you must succeed a `kinit mywindowsuser` and see your ticket with `klist`. And be sure you can resolve local names with a nslookup. Some recommend you set the name and ip of your Domain Controller (DC) in /etc/hosts to avoid DNS failure. To join a domain, use the net join ads command, as explained in the docs : it must work. If it don't, don't look forward: solve this problem as it means you cannot access your DC. There's no need to configure LDAP if you use an AD architecture. And unless your DC is configured otherwise, it should offer you all required services (kerberos, ntp, dns). Don't hesitate to set up the log level of samba to 4 or the example value of the man page to get what's wrong. Don't look for complex configuration : a few simple lines does the job for matching AD. If you can identify against AD for file shares, then you just ( :D ) have to set up pam for the main login. I'd say there are 3 or 4 winbind directives (uid/gid range, auto append defautl domain, etc) in and 5 important samba directives smb.conf. I hope this fragment can help you a little bit, Jil.
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome update blocks
Zhou Rui schrieb: Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 [2.6.31] USE=python readline -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -test 4,612 kB [ebuild U ] app-text/rarian-0.8.0-r1 [0.6.0-r1] USE=-debug 331 kB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/atk-1.22.0 [1.20.0] USE=-debug -doc 693 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libxklavier-3.6 [3.3] USE=-doc 452 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/libsoup-2.4.1 USE=ssl -debug -doc 614 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.13 [2.14.12] USE=-debug -doc 723 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.20 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 USE=X alsa* -a52 -dvb -dvd -esd -ffmpeg -flac -mad -mpeg -mythtv -ogg -oss -theora -vorbis -xv 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/pango-1.20.5 [1.20.3] USE=X -debug -doc 1,388 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/intltool-0.37.1 [0.35.5] 136 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.22.0 [2.20.4] USE=-debug -doc 1,412 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-debug 769 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygobject-2.14.2 [2.14.1] USE=X%* -debug -doc -examples -libffi% 359 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.0.6 USE=X bzip2 jpeg perl png* zlib -djvu -doc -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig -jpeg2k -lcms -nocxx -openexr -q32 -q8 -svg -tiff -truetype -wmf -xml 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=-debug 3,581 kB [ebuild R ] net-print/cups-1.3.7-r1 USE=X acl dbus jpeg nls pam perl png* python ssl -avahi -java -kerberos -ldap -php -ppds -samba -slp -static -tiff -zeroconf LINGUAS=-de -en -es -et -fr -he -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.10-r1 [2.12.9-r2] USE=X cups jpeg vim-syntax -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama 15,851 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -doc -ldap 1,384 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 672 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gail-1.22.3 [1.20.2] USE=-debug -doc 659 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.14.3 [2.12.2] USE=X%* -accessibility -debug -static 659 kB [ebuild R ] app-i18n/scim-1.4.5-r1 USE=gtk -doc (-kde%) (-qt3%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.12.1-r2 [2.12.0] USE=X%* -doc -examples (-opengl%*) 2,125 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=hal pam -debug -doc -test 884 kB [ebuild U ] x11-wm/metacity-2.22.0 [2.20.2] USE=-debug -xinerama 2,024 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gvfs-0.2.5 USE=gnome hal -avahi -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -samba 808 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-accessibility -debug 1,464 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/gucharmap-2.22.3 [1.10.2] USE=cjk gnome -debug 2,574 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=python -debug 455 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/vte-0.16.14 [0.16.13] USE=opengl python -debug -doc 1,095 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=acl hal ssl -avahi -debug -doc -fam% -gnutls -ipv6 -kerberos -samba 1,895 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.22.0 [2.20.1.1] USE=-debug -doc -esd 1,375 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=zlib -debug -doc (-gnome%*) 454 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug -doc 983 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.22.1 [2.20.1.1] USE=jpeg -debug -doc 1,417 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 1,411 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.22.0 [2.20.0-r1] USE=-debug 397 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.22.3 [2.18.4] USE=-debug 1,761 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.22.0 [2.20.1] USE=-debug -doc -examples 527 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/eel-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug 584 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.22.1-r1 [2.20.0] USE=xulrunner -beagle -debug -lzma% 973 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.22.5.1 [2.20.0-r1] USE=X gnome -beagle -debug (-esd%) (-tracker%) 4,900 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.20.7 [2.20.3] USE=pam tcpd -accessibility -afs -branding -debug -dmx -gnome-keyring% -ipv6 -remote (-selinux) -xinerama 3,889 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-control-center-2.22.2.1 [2.20.3] USE=hal -debug -eds -esd (-alsa%) 2,061 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.22.2.1 USE=alsa -debug -esd -gstreamer 1,113 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=branding tcpd -debug -ipv6 (-esd%) 756 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.3 [2.20.1] USE=acpi gnome hal -apm -debug -doc -gstreamer -ipv6 -test 7,333 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libgweather-2.22.3 USE=-debug 6,123 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc -eds -networkmanager% 3,179 kB [blocks B ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.0 (is blocking dev-libs/libgweather-2.22.3) [blocks B ]
[gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update
I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world.
Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and
a few blockers. (full output is below)
I can't understand the first blocker msg
[blocks B ] media-video/totem-2.21 (is blocking
dev-libs/totem-pl-parser-2.22.3)
It seems clear enough and the ebuild for the parser does have
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
!media-video/totem-2.21
=dev-util/intltool-0.35
doc? ( dev-util/gtk-doc )
But I don't have totem-2.21 installed
allan gottlieb # eix --verbose totem
* dev-libs/totem-pl-parser
Available versions: ~2.22.2 2.22.3 {doc hal}
Best versions/slot: 2.22.3
Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
Description: Playlist parsing library
License: LGPL-2
* media-video/totem
Available versions: 2.18.3 2.20.3 ~2.20.4 ~2.22.1 ~2.22.2 2.22.2-r1 {a52
bluetooth debug dvd ffmpeg flac galago gnome hal lirc mad mpeg nautilus
nsplugin nvtv ogg python seamonkey theora tracker vorbis xulrunner xv}
Installed versions: Version: 2.20.3
Date:22:23:17 07/21/08
USE: bluetooth dvd gnome hal mad mpeg ogg python
vorbis xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -flac -galago -lirc -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
-theora -xulrunner
Best versions/slot: 2.22.2-r1
Recommendation: Upgrade
Homepage:http://gnome.org/projects/totem/
Description: Media player for GNOME
License: GPL-2 LGPL-2
Found 2 matches.
allan gottlieb #
I tried just merging totem (w and w/o deep) and again received the
block.
Any help would be appreciated.
allan
PS Here is the full output of the --update world
allan gottlieb # emerge --ask --verbose --deep --tree --newuse --update world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap
-accessibility -mono 0 kB
[nomerge ] media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -test
(-flac%) (-ogg%*)
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 1,940
kB
[nomerge ] media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -test
(-flac%) (-ogg%*)
[nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 [0.10] USE=X alsa
dvd%* esd mad%* mpeg%* ogg%* vorbis%* xv -a52% -dvb% -ffmpeg% -flac% -mythtv%
-oss -theora%
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 865 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 1,873 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap
-accessibility -mono
[nomerge ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 [2.20.3] USE=bluetooth gnome
python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus% -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker%
-xulrunner (-a52%) (-dvd%*) (-ffmpeg%) (-flac%) (-hal%*) (-mad%*) (-mpeg%*)
(-ogg%*) (-theora%) (-vorbis%*) (-xv%*)
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.8-r1 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild N] gnome-extra/swfdec-gnome-2.22.2 USE=-debug 164 kB
[ebuild N] media-libs/swfdec-0.6.6-r1 USE=alsa gstreamer gtk -doc
-ffmpeg -oss -pulseaudio 8,568 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.8-r1 [0.10.6] USE=-debug 0
kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.20 [0.10.14] USE=nls%*
-debug (-X%*) (-alsa%*) (-esd%*) (-oss%) (-xv%*) 0 kB
[ebuild U ]media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.20 [0.10.14] USE=nls%* -debug%
-test% 2,201 kB
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap
-accessibility -mono
[nomerge ] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=X eds%*
-debug -doc
[nomerge ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 [2.20.3] USE=bluetooth gnome
python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus% -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker%
-xulrunner (-a52%) (-dvd%*) (-ffmpeg%) (-flac%) (-hal%*) (-mad%*) (-mpeg%*)
(-ogg%*) (-theora%) (-vorbis%*) (-xv%*)
[nomerge ]media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 [0.10] USE=X alsa
dvd%* esd mad%* mpeg%* ogg%* vorbis%* xv -a52% -dvb% -ffmpeg% -flac% -mythtv%
-oss -theora%
[ebuild U ]
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new* shells were present.That's why I thought about the Powershell, as an example. A new kernel is not so hard to do. The problem are the drivers - and all the quirks. It is one thing to write a little task scheduler for your little pet project, but if it crashs constantly it becomes a bitch to fight through all the errata. But at the beginning a simple kernel is much easier to do than stuff that runs on it (simple is the important work. A non-simple kernel is very hard). Well, I've never done kernel programming, but I have always been under the impression it is among the hardest programming stuff you can do, even if only for the hardware knowledge and debugging troubles it gives... Another thing are libcs. A libc is a bitch. Luckily there is a whole bunch to choose from. glibc, bsd's libc, uclibc, dietlibc, ... so why re-invent the wheel? For libc, yes, I agree. Or look at X. X is horrible. A convoluted mess of grown cruft and standards to hold the pile together. But where is the replacement? Fiasco/Berlin? failed. Y-window? failed. Because X works good enough. And if you aren't writing toolkits or apps using xlib directly, you don't need to care about most of the stuff. So hobbyist concentrate on the easy stuff - and a userland is not easy. Userland is not boring - it is very hard. And the best userland doesn't help you if no 3rd party software runs on it. But projects like Haiku and ReactOS created also most of userland from scratch, not only the kernels. They had the advantage of taking inspiration from existing OSes but they actually did the implementation. Also, SkyOS or Syllable did it, AFAIK. So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? Are there similar projects using the Linux kernel? m.
[gentoo-user] googleearth
Google earth upgraded over the weekend to version 4.2.205.5730. It installed fine but it runs like shit. The rendering is so slow as to be completely unusable. The previous version worked fine so I tried to go back to it but it's gone, at least according to eix. Anybody else having the same problem? Nobody's mentioned it on this list or on the forums sofar. Where do I start to find a solution? Hardware: Compaq Presario V5000 laptop Precessor: Celeron M 1.46GHz RAM: 2GB Graphics: Intel 945GM/GMS Express Integrated Graphics Controller Saludos Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee Instituto Biologia Marina 'Jurgen Winter' Universidad Austral de Chile Campus Isla Teja Valdivia [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%%
Re: [gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world.
Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and
a few blockers. (full output is below)
I can't understand the first blocker msg
[blocks B ] media-video/totem-2.21 (is blocking
dev-libs/totem-pl-parser-2.22.3)
It seems clear enough and the ebuild for the parser does have
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
!media-video/totem-2.21
=dev-util/intltool-0.35
doc? ( dev-util/gtk-doc )
But I don't have totem-2.21 installed
allan gottlieb # eix --verbose totem
* dev-libs/totem-pl-parser
Available versions: ~2.22.2 2.22.3 {doc hal}
Best versions/slot: 2.22.3
Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
Description: Playlist parsing library
License: LGPL-2
* media-video/totem
Available versions: 2.18.3 2.20.3 ~2.20.4 ~2.22.1 ~2.22.2 2.22.2-r1 {a52
bluetooth debug dvd ffmpeg flac galago gnome hal lirc mad mpeg nautilus
nsplugin nvtv ogg python seamonkey theora tracker vorbis xulrunner xv}
Installed versions: Version: 2.20.3
Date:22:23:17 07/21/08
USE: bluetooth dvd gnome hal mad mpeg ogg python
vorbis xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -flac -galago -lirc -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey
-theora -xulrunner
Best versions/slot: 2.22.2-r1
Recommendation: Upgrade
Homepage:http://gnome.org/projects/totem/
Description: Media player for GNOME
License: GPL-2 LGPL-2
Found 2 matches.
allan gottlieb #
I tried just merging totem (w and w/o deep) and again received the
block.
Any help would be appreciated.
allan
PS Here is the full output of the --update world
allan gottlieb # emerge --ask --verbose --deep --tree --newuse --update world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap -accessibility -mono 0 kB
[nomerge ] media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -test (-flac%) (-ogg%*)
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 1,940 kB
[nomerge ] media-sound/sound-juicer-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -test (-flac%) (-ogg%*)
[nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 [0.10] USE=X alsa dvd%* esd mad%* mpeg%* ogg%* vorbis%* xv -a52% -dvb% -ffmpeg% -flac% -mythtv% -oss -theora%
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 865 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 1,873 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.8 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap -accessibility -mono
[nomerge ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 [2.20.3] USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus% -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker% -xulrunner (-a52%) (-dvd%*) (-ffmpeg%) (-flac%) (-hal%*) (-mad%*) (-mpeg%*) (-ogg%*) (-theora%) (-vorbis%*) (-xv%*)
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.20 [0.10.14] 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.8-r1 [0.10.6] 0 kB
[ebuild N] gnome-extra/swfdec-gnome-2.22.2 USE=-debug 164 kB
[ebuild N] media-libs/swfdec-0.6.6-r1 USE=alsa gstreamer gtk -doc -ffmpeg -oss -pulseaudio 8,568 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.8-r1 [0.10.6] USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.20 [0.10.14] USE=nls%* -debug (-X%*) (-alsa%*) (-esd%*) (-oss%) (-xv%*) 0 kB
[ebuild U ]media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.20 [0.10.14] USE=nls%* -debug% -test% 2,201 kB
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=cdr cups dvdr esd ldap -accessibility -mono
[nomerge ] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=X eds%* -debug -doc
[nomerge ] media-video/totem-2.22.2-r1 [2.20.3] USE=bluetooth gnome python -debug -galago -lirc -nautilus% -nsplugin -nvtv -seamonkey -tracker% -xulrunner (-a52%) (-dvd%*) (-ffmpeg%) (-flac%) (-hal%*) (-mad%*) (-mpeg%*) (-ogg%*) (-theora%) (-vorbis%*) (-xv%*)
[nomerge ]media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 [0.10] USE=X alsa dvd%* esd mad%* mpeg%* ogg%* vorbis%* xv -a52% -dvb% -ffmpeg% -flac% -mythtv% -oss -theora%
[ebuild U ]
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
On Montag, 11. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: there are many shells. sh, bash, bsh. korn, csh, zsh, dash, tcsh, why make a new one, if you can do incredible stuff with zsh? A shell is not so easy to create. I understand. I wondered if *conceptually new* shells were present.That's why I thought about the Powershell, as an example. look up zsh. You can do stuff with that shell that make the powershell look like a child's toy. A new kernel is not so hard to do. The problem are the drivers - and all the quirks. It is one thing to write a little task scheduler for your little pet project, but if it crashs constantly it becomes a bitch to fight through all the errata. But at the beginning a simple kernel is much easier to do than stuff that runs on it (simple is the important work. A non-simple kernel is very hard). Well, I've never done kernel programming, but I have always been under the impression it is among the hardest programming stuff you can do, even if only for the hardware knowledge and debugging troubles it gives... a 'real' kernel is hard, but a little hobbyist kernel is not that hard to do. Another thing are libcs. A libc is a bitch. Luckily there is a whole bunch to choose from. glibc, bsd's libc, uclibc, dietlibc, ... so why re-invent the wheel? For libc, yes, I agree. But projects like Haiku and ReactOS created also most of userland from scratch, not only the kernels. reactos tries to copy windows - so it will be using the windows userland. haiku tries to be beos - it is will be able to run beos apps. Also some posix- apps run on it. They had the advantage of taking inspiration from existing OSes but they actually did the implementation. Also, SkyOS or Syllable did it, AFAIK. and how many apps run on skyos or syllabe? So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? because they wanted to do something different.
Re: [gentoo-user] googleearth
Matthew R. Lee wrote: Google earth upgraded over the weekend to version 4.2.205.5730. It installed fine but it runs like shit. The rendering is so slow as to be completely unusable. The previous version worked fine so I tried to go back to it but it's gone, at least according to eix. Anybody else having the same problem? Nobody's mentioned it on this list or on the forums sofar. Where do I start to find a solution? Hardware: Compaq Presario V5000 laptop Precessor: Celeron M 1.46GHz RAM: 2GB Graphics: Intel 945GM/GMS Express Integrated Graphics Controller Saludos Matt Well, I'm not going to lock myself into a agreement but you can try starting here: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html I would start close to the bottom where it says this: Download the previous version. That may help. It may go back a little farther or you may want to try moving to a even newer version where your issue may be fixed. Hope that helps. Just wish I could get off this stinking dial-up so I can play with it too. :-( Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: But projects like Haiku and ReactOS created also most of userland from scratch, not only the kernels. reactos tries to copy windows - so it will be using the windows userland. haiku tries to be beos - it is will be able to run beos apps. Also some posix- apps run on it. In the meaning of windows and beos applications, yes. However it is not like ReactOS uses the windows graphic shell. It has its own windows-like graphic shell. When I talk about userland, here, I mean more the core stuff, like coreutils, graphics and the like. They had the advantage of taking inspiration from existing OSes but they actually did the implementation. Also, SkyOS or Syllable did it, AFAIK. and how many apps run on skyos or syllabe? Few, indeed, but that's irrelevant in this context. They exist. So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? because they wanted to do something different. Yes, very probably. However it's a kind of decision I don't really understand... using a Linux or BSD as the underlying kernel would give you immediately tons of drivers and stuff, even if you want to rewrite most of other utilities from scratch. Probably I don't get it because I'm not an OS programmer geek. :) m.
Re: [gentoo-user] confusing blocker in gnome update
At Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:50:38 -0700 Joshua D Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
I was away for two weeks and am not trying to do an --update world.
Gnome 2.22 has gone stable so there are a number of pkgs to emerge and
a few blockers. (full output is below)
I can't understand the first blocker msg
[blocks B ] media-video/totem-2.21 (is blocking
dev-libs/totem-pl-parser-2.22.3)
It seems clear enough and the ebuild for the parser does have
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
!media-video/totem-2.21
=dev-util/intltool-0.35
doc? ( dev-util/gtk-doc )
Portage is telling you that you have a version less than what it is
looking for and cannot install dev-libs/totem-pl-parser-2.22.3 with
that version of totem. Uninstall totem and that should clear that
blocker. You installed gnome from the meta-package so the latest
stable version of totem will be pulled in as a new install.
OK and thanks. I am embarrassed to say that I missread
!media-video/totem-2.21 as !media-video/totem-2.21.
allan
Re: [gentoo-user] [extremly, wildly, obscenely OT] Is there a Linux system without GNU userlands?
On Dienstag, 12. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: So I can rephrase my question as those two: Why didn't those projects use the Linux kernel? because they wanted to do something different. Yes, very probably. However it's a kind of decision I don't really understand... using a Linux or BSD as the underlying kernel would give you immediately tons of drivers and stuff, even if you want to rewrite most of other utilities from scratch. Probably I don't get it because I'm not an OS programmer geek. :) some people build their own bikes or boats despite the fact that you can choose between tons of bikes and boats. ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] bridge configuration problem
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:59:03PM +0800, Shaochun Wang wrote: After adding the preup() function, it works now! It seems that I celebrate too early. It still doesn't work. As a matter of fact, it is so weird! After executing the command brctl addbr br0, the interface br0 is available only for a few seconds. Then it vanished in the air! -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome update blocks
2008/8/12 Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zhou Rui schrieb: Hi, I got 2 blocks in today's portage updating, they are about the gnome: $ emerge -pvuDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 [2.6.31] USE=python readline -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -examples -ipv6 -test 4,612 kB [ebuild U ] app-text/rarian-0.8.0-r1 [0.6.0-r1] USE=-debug 331 kB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/atk-1.22.0 [1.20.0] USE=-debug -doc 693 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libxklavier-3.6 [3.3] USE=-doc 452 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/libsoup-2.4.1 USE=ssl -debug -doc 614 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.13 [2.14.12] USE=-debug -doc 723 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.20 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r2 USE=X alsa* -a52 -dvb -dvd -esd -ffmpeg -flac -mad -mpeg -mythtv -ogg -oss -theora -vorbis -xv 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/pango-1.20.5 [1.20.3] USE=X -debug -doc 1,388 kB [ebuild U ] dev-util/intltool-0.37.1 [0.35.5] 136 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.22.0 [2.20.4] USE=-debug -doc 1,412 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-debug 769 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygobject-2.14.2 [2.14.1] USE=X%* -debug -doc -examples -libffi% 359 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.0.6 USE=X bzip2 jpeg perl png* zlib -djvu -doc -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri -jbig -jpeg2k -lcms -nocxx -openexr -q32 -q8 -svg -tiff -truetype -wmf -xml 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=-debug 3,581 kB [ebuild R ] net-print/cups-1.3.7-r1 USE=X acl dbus jpeg nls pam perl png* python ssl -avahi -java -kerberos -ldap -php -ppds -samba -slp -static -tiff -zeroconf LINGUAS=-de -en -es -et -fr -he -it -ja -pl -sv -zh_TW 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.10-r1 [2.12.9-r2] USE=X cups jpeg vim-syntax -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama 15,851 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=-debug -doc -ldap 1,384 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 672 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gail-1.22.3 [1.20.2] USE=-debug -doc 659 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.14.3 [2.12.2] USE=X%* -accessibility -debug -static 659 kB [ebuild R ] app-i18n/scim-1.4.5-r1 USE=gtk -doc (-kde%) (-qt3%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.12.1-r2 [2.12.0] USE=X%* -doc -examples (-opengl%*) 2,125 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=hal pam -debug -doc -test 884 kB [ebuild U ] x11-wm/metacity-2.22.0 [2.20.2] USE=-debug -xinerama 2,024 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gvfs-0.2.5 USE=gnome hal -avahi -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -samba 808 kB [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.22.2 [2.20.2] USE=-accessibility -debug 1,464 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/gucharmap-2.22.3 [1.10.2] USE=cjk gnome -debug 2,574 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-menus-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=python -debug 455 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/vte-0.16.14 [0.16.13] USE=opengl python -debug -doc 1,095 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.22.0 [2.20.1-r1] USE=acl hal ssl -avahi -debug -doc -fam% -gnutls -ipv6 -kerberos -samba 1,895 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.22.0 [2.20.1.1] USE=-debug -doc -esd 1,375 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=zlib -debug -doc (-gnome%*) 454 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.22.0 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug -doc 983 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.22.1 [2.20.1.1] USE=jpeg -debug -doc 1,417 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc 1,411 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.22.0 [2.20.0-r1] USE=-debug 397 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.22.3 [2.18.4] USE=-debug 1,761 kB [ebuild U ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.22.0 [2.20.1] USE=-debug -doc -examples 527 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/eel-2.22.2 [2.20.0] USE=X -debug 584 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.22.1-r1 [2.20.0] USE=xulrunner -beagle -debug -lzma% 973 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.22.5.1 [2.20.0-r1] USE=X gnome -beagle -debug (-esd%) (-tracker%) 4,900 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.20.7 [2.20.3] USE=pam tcpd -accessibility -afs -branding -debug -dmx -gnome-keyring% -ipv6 -remote (-selinux) -xinerama 3,889 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-control-center-2.22.2.1 [2.20.3] USE=hal -debug -eds -esd (-alsa%) 2,061 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.22.2.1 USE=alsa -debug -esd -gstreamer 1,113 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.22.3 [2.20.3] USE=branding tcpd -debug -ipv6 (-esd%) 756 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.22.3 [2.20.1] USE=acpi gnome hal -apm -debug -doc -gstreamer -ipv6 -test 7,333 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libgweather-2.22.3 USE=-debug 6,123 kB [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.22.2 [2.20.3] USE=-debug -doc -eds
