Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Le Thursday 28 August 2008 08:40:39 Suman Chakrabarty, vous avez écrit : After successful installation of Gentoo 2008 on an old Compaq Pressario notebook, I was trying to emerge kde-meta on it, but was not successful. :( My USE flags: USE=nptl nptlonly -ipv6 -fortran unicode svg hal dbus X opengl \ kde qt3 qt4 -arts -eds -esd -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -firefox Command used: emerge -D --newuse kde-meta /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/work/kscreensaver-3.5.9/config .log is attached as instructed in the error message. Last part of the screen output including the error message: checking for KDE... libraries /usr/kde/3.5/lib, headers /usr/kde/3.5/include checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt configuration settings. As he said, you have to reemerge kdelibs first because your Qt version has changed since the last installation of kdelibs. You can also retry with adding --update to your emerge command. Posting your emerge --info output can help us too ;) !!! Please attach the following file when seeking support: !!! /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/work/kscreensaver-3.5.9/config .log * * ERROR: kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 4214: Called kde-meta_src_compile * environment, line 2882: Called kde_src_compile * environment, line 3047: Called kde_src_compile 'src_compile' * environment, line 3167: Called kde_src_compile 'src_compile' 'all' 'myconf' * environment, line 3154: Called econf 'configure' 'make' '--with-gl' '--without-java' '--with-x' '--enable-mitshm' '--without-xinerama' '--with-qt-dir=/usr/qt/3' '--enable-mt' '--with-qt-libraries=/usr/qt/3/lib' '--disable-dependency-tracking' '--disable-debug' '--without-debug' '--disable-final' '--without-arts' '--prefix=/usr/kde/3.5' '--mandir=/usr/kde/3.5/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/kde/3.5/share/info' * ebuild.sh, line 513: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die econf failed * The die message: * econf failed * * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/temp/environment'. * * Messages for package kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9: * * ERROR: kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 4214: Called kde-meta_src_compile * environment, line 2882: Called kde_src_compile * environment, line 3047: Called kde_src_compile 'src_compile' * environment, line 3167: Called kde_src_compile 'src_compile' 'all' 'myconf' * environment, line 3154: Called econf 'configure' 'make' '--with-gl' '--without-java' '--with-x' '--enable-mitshm' '--without-xinerama' '--with-qt-dir=/usr/qt/3' '--enable-mt' '--with-qt-libraries=/usr/qt/3/lib' '--disable-dependency-tracking' '--disable-debug' '--without-debug' '--disable-final' '--without-arts' '--prefix=/usr/kde/3.5' '--mandir=/usr/kde/3.5/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/kde/3.5/share/info' * ebuild.sh, line 513: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die econf failed * The die message: * econf failed * * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscreensaver-3.5.9/temp/environment'. Please help. Thanks, Suman Chakrabarty. HTH. Xavier Parizet signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Xav' wrote: If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt configuration settings. As he said, you have to reemerge kdelibs first because your Qt version has changed since the last installation of kdelibs. You can also retry with adding --update to your emerge command. Posting your emerge --info output can help us too ;) Thanks for your quick response. Adding --update did not help. Here are some output that might be useful. Is this the right way to reemerge kdelibs? Following command did not do anything. ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1133MHz Timestamp of tree: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:16:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.2-r6 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=ccache distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://gentoo.imj.fr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.first-world.info/ http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.ncnu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.cs.pu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://gentoo.cs.nctu.edu.tw/gentoo/ LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X acl berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri gdbm gpm hal iconv isdnlog kde midi mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly opengl openmp pam pcre perl pppd python qt3 qt4 readline reflection session spl ssl svg sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint i810 mach64 mga neomagic nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa vga via vmware voodoo Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Regards, Suman Chakrabarty. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0530, Suman Chakrabarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xav' wrote: If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt configuration settings. As he said, you have to reemerge kdelibs first because your Qt version has changed since the last installation of kdelibs. You can also retry with adding --update to your emerge command. Posting your emerge --info output can help us too ;) Thanks for your quick response. Adding --update did not help. Here are some output that might be useful. Is this the right way to reemerge kdelibs? Following command did not do anything. Can you post the output of emerge --deep --update --newuse --pretend --verbose world ? ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1133MHz Timestamp of tree: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:16:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.2-r6 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=ccache distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://gentoo.imj.fr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.first-world.info/ http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.ncnu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.cs.pu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://gentoo.cs.nctu.edu.tw/gentoo/ LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X acl berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri gdbm gpm hal iconv isdnlog kde midi mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly opengl openmp pam pcre perl pppd python qt3 qt4 readline reflection session spl ssl svg sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint i810 mach64 mga neomagic nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa vga via vmware voodoo Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Regards, Suman Chakrabarty. -- Xavier
[gentoo-user] Hijacking threads
On 28 Aug 2008, at 07:40, Suman Chakrabarty wrote: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] After successful installation of Gentoo 2008 on an old Compaq Pressario notebook, I was trying to emerge kde-meta on it, but was not successful. :( Please don't hijack threads like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/ 8a540add45e7e9b8? It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients... In case you didn't know, it happens when you use reply for sending a new question instead of composing a new message. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 09:46:57 schrieb ext Suman Chakrabarty: Here are some output that might be useful. Is this the right way to reemerge kdelibs? Following command did not do anything. ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs emerge -1 kdelibs HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Suman Chakrabarty wrote: Thanks for your quick response. Adding --update did not help. Here are some output that might be useful. Is this the right way to reemerge kdelibs? Following command did not do anything. ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1133MHz Timestamp of tree: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:16:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.2-r6 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=ccache distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=*MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be* http://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://gentoo.imj.fr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.first-world.info/ http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.ncnu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://ftp.cs.pu.edu.tw/Linux/Gentoo/ http://gentoo.cs.nctu.edu.tw/gentoo/ LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X acl berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri gdbm gpm hal iconv isdnlog kde midi mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly opengl openmp pam pcre perl pppd python qt3 qt4 readline reflection session spl ssl svg sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint i810 mach64 mga neomagic nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa vga via vmware voodoo Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Regards, Suman Chakrabarty. Try this, emerge -1v kdelibs and then try to install the rest. What it is saying is that you have upgraded qt since kdelibs was last compiled and it needs to link everything to the new qt. After you reemerge kdelibs, it should work fine. Also, what this heck is this about? MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be That shouldn't be in your make.conf file. Dale :-) :-) * *
Re: [gentoo-user] fdisk - expanding a partition beyond 2TB
On 27 Aug 2008, at 05:28, Dave Oxley wrote: ... I've just added a fourth disk to my Raid 5 set increasing the capacity from 1.5TB to 2.25TB. I have 4 partitions on this volume set; the fourth of which is 1.49TB which is then further subdivided using lvm2. ... Hi there, Is the problem that you've got 4 partitions this prevents you form making a 5th? Because using LVM I would simply create a new partition and add it to the volume group. The contents *should* indeed remain intact if one simply deletes the partition recreates at the same starting point, yet larger. I'm sure I've used parted as well as cfdisk for this sort of thing in the past, yet hesitate to recommend either as I would fear making a typo with an unfamiliar tool, thereby rendering my data mythical. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
2008/8/28, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, what this heck is this about? MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be That shouldn't be in your make.conf file. Just take a look in the signature of thie message. :-) This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Don't know what's the scanners problem with the mirror adress though. Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2008/8/28, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, what this heck is this about? MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be That shouldn't be in your make.conf file. Just take a look in the signature of thie message. :-) This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Don't know what's the scanners problem with the mirror adress though. Regards, Daniel I was more curious as to how it got into make.conf? I can understand that it scans email but how did it edit make.conf? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes
On 27 Aug 2008, at 20:00, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: ... I have two 500GB SATA drives, a 320GB IDE and a 250GB IDE. ... I would like to set these up so that the maximum amount of disk space is usable, but still be able to recover from any one drive failing. I would also like to be able to add drives of any size as easily as possible. Cheap, fast purty - pick any two. What you're suggesting is at best a headache more likely a complete nightmare, just waiting to happen. I can see that you have over 500GB of EIDE, so in the ideal world you should be able to use that as the parity for your 2 x 500GB of SATA drives. But in the real world, spend £35.25 and get a 3rd 500GB SATA. Use the EIDE for swap or non-redundant files or something. Hard-drives from the scrap pile can be immensely useful, but if you want ease of setup, reliability, redundancy and peace-of-mind then scratch cheap off your list of requirements. Drives are cheap these days, particularly 500GB ones right now. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:11:48 +0100, Stroller wrote: Hard-drives from the scrap pile can be immensely useful, but if you want ease of setup, reliability, redundancy and peace-of-mind then scratch cheap off your list of requirements. As the saying goes Cheap, reliable, fast - pick any two. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 006: Malicious error - Desqview found on drive signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes
On 28 Aug 2008, at 10:24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:11:48 +0100, Stroller wrote: Hard-drives from the scrap pile can be immensely useful, but if you want ease of setup, reliability, redundancy and peace-of-mind then scratch cheap off your list of requirements. As the saying goes Cheap, reliable, fast - pick any two. I did open my message with the words cheap, fast purty - it all depends what you're buying. ;) Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:53:16 +0100, Stroller wrote: I did open my message with the words cheap, fast purty Sorry, I missed that. - it all depends what you're buying. ;) I think we'll end this conversation right here :) -- Neil Bothwick Is it possible to be totally partial? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Thanks everybody for your helpful replies. :) Try this, emerge -1v kdelibs and then try to install the rest. What it is saying is that you have upgraded qt since kdelibs was last compiled and it needs to link everything to the new qt. After you reemerge kdelibs, it should work fine. It works! I mean emerging kde-meta is not finished yet, but it has gone past the obstacle (kscreensaver) it was getting stuck at after I have done emerge -1v kdelibs. Thanks. Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. Also, what this heck is this about? MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be That shouldn't be in your make.conf file. Well, those lines are not there in my make.conf file. But the mail scanner must have modified the URL in the attachment in some manner to include those strange warning/error messages. I am not sure about the working principles of our institute mail server/scanner. :) Best regards, Suman Chakrabarty.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
2008/8/28, Suman Chakrabarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. I guess Dirk suggested to use --oneshot because you probably don't want kdelibs in world. The main issue was that you had to re-emerge kdelibs to be built against the newer qt version. So emerge kdelibs or emerge --nodeps kdelibs is enough but then kdelibs is added to your world file. Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 14:19:46 schrieb ext Suman Chakrabarty: Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. emerge adds only those packages to the world file which you specify explicitely on the command line. All other packages which are installed to fulfill the dependencies are not added. When you do a normal update, only those packages listed in world are considered. To update dependencies as well, you need to use -D. Therefor you should emerge kdelibs with -1 to avoid having it added to the world file. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Suman Chakrabarty wrote: Thanks everybody for your helpful replies. :) Try this, emerge -1v kdelibs and then try to install the rest. What it is saying is that you have upgraded qt since kdelibs was last compiled and it needs to link everything to the new qt. After you reemerge kdelibs, it should work fine. It works! I mean emerging kde-meta is not finished yet, but it has gone past the obstacle (kscreensaver) it was getting stuck at after I have done emerge -1v kdelibs. Thanks. Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. Let me give this a shot. You don't really want every package you have installed to be recorded in the world file. It can make you do updates that you may not really need. Since kdelibs is a dependency of kde-meta, it should get upgraded when it needs to without it being in the world file. Mostly, it just keeps you world file nice and clean since it only has what is really needed listed there. A huge world file is not really a good idea. It won't break anything that I know of but it's not needed either. Also, what this heck is this about? MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from mirror.ovh.net claiming to be That shouldn't be in your make.conf file. Well, those lines are not there in my make.conf file. But the mail scanner must have modified the URL in the attachment in some manner to include those strange warning/error messages. I am not sure about the working principles of our institute mail server/scanner. :) Best regards, Suman Chakrabarty. OK. I see now. It changed it on the email but the make.conf file is normal. That's cool. I thought the make.conf file was being changed by your mail scanner which confused me. It is early here. -_0 Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] How to publish a project?
Hi, I am not sure if here is a right place to ask such question, but I just think maybe someone here have such experience and may help me. I have written a project, which is a distribution net file system, and I want to publish it under GPL. I have source code now of course, but I don't know how to make package and publish it as a project . I need the details, then I can follow step by step and make my dream come true :) I have read Software Release Practice HOWTO(http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Release-Practice-HOWTO/index.html), but it seems very old. So maybe you can give some advice? Any help will be appreciated! -- wcw
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 14:19:46 schrieb ext Suman Chakrabarty: Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. emerge adds only those packages to the world file which you specify explicitely on the command line. All other packages which are installed to fulfill the dependencies are not added. When you do a normal update, only those packages listed in world are considered. To update dependencies as well, you need to use -D. Therefor you should emerge kdelibs with -1 to avoid having it added to the world file. Thanks, but I don't think my confusion was addressed fully. Let me explain. The following command did not work as reported (and suggested) before: ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. Even if I had included kdelibs in the world file, it should have been re-emerged through the previous command, right? I didn't see through the additional magic done by -1! Regards, Suman Chakrabarty. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:11:34 +0530, Suman Chakrabarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 14:19:46 schrieb ext Suman Chakrabarty: Now my question is: why? man emerge says that the -1 option is equivalent to --oneshot which is Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world file for later updating. But how does it help emerge something which was not emerging without -1?! May be I am missing something obvious, but please explain. emerge adds only those packages to the world file which you specify explicitely on the command line. All other packages which are installed to fulfill the dependencies are not added. When you do a normal update, only those packages listed in world are considered. To update dependencies as well, you need to use -D. Therefor you should emerge kdelibs with -1 to avoid having it added to the world file. Thanks, but I don't think my confusion was addressed fully. Let me explain. The following command did not work as reported (and suggested) before: ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. Even if I had included kdelibs in the world file, it should have been re-emerged through the previous command, right? I didn't see through the additional magic done by -1! This has not worked not because of the -1, but because you remove --newuse ! --newuse will emerge the package only if its use flags has changed, and it wasn't the case :) Regards, Suman Chakrabarty. -- Xavier Parizet
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
2008/8/28, Suman Chakrabarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, but I don't think my confusion was addressed fully. Let me explain. The following command did not work as reported (and suggested) before: ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. Even if I had included kdelibs in the world file, it should have been re-emerged through the previous command, right? I didn't see through the additional magic done by -1! As I said -1 is not the problem here. The interesting and different parts of this two commands are: emerge kdelibs This just re-emerges kdelibs. emerge -D --newuse kdelibs or emerge --deep --newuse kdelibs Here all dependencies and changed use flags of all dependencies including kdelibs will be re-emerged. The dependencies are updated before kdelibs and thus in this case kdescreenseaver fails as it needs kdelibs re-emerged first. Regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:41:34 schrieb ext Suman Chakrabarty: Thanks, but I don't think my confusion was addressed fully. Let me explain. The following command did not work as reported (and suggested) before: ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. Yes, because you wanted to _update_ the package, but it was up-to-date. But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. This has nothing to do with -1 (or --oneshot). It's update vs. install. So what you did was emerge kdelibs instead of emerge -D --newuse kdelibs with a -1 added to prevent adding the package to world. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:36:54 schrieb ext Xav: This has not worked not because of the -1, but because you remove --newuse No, it was because he removed -D (deep update), to force a (re-)installation. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Suman Chakrabarty schrieb: Thanks, but I don't think my confusion was addressed fully. Let me explain. The following command did not work as reported (and suggested) before: ~ # emerge -D --newuse kdelibs Calculating dependencies... done! Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. Even if I had included kdelibs in the world file, it should have been re-emerged through the previous command, right? I didn't see through the additional magic done by -1! It is not the -1 that is added but the --newuse that is left. emerge -D --newuse kdelibs means that portage should only rebuild kdelibs if there are changed USE-Flags. As there aren't any, emerge has nothing to do and says so. Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:41:24 schrieb ext Sebastian Beßler: It is not the -1 that is added but the --newuse that is left. Once more: it's _not_ because of --newuse, but because of -D! Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:38:47 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:36:54 schrieb ext Xav: This has not worked not because of the -1, but because you remove --newuse No, it was because he removed -D (deep update), to force a (re-)installation. No... The -D doesn't stand for deep update, but for deep, so with deep, portage will also check dependencies of the package. Try to do emerge -D kdelibs and you will see that portage reemerge kdelibs. To have a deep update, the right command is emerge -Du/emerge --deep --update... In his case, with emerge --newuse --deep, portage has checked that no use flags has changed for kdelibs and all of his dependencies :) Bye... Bye ;) Dirk -- Xavier
Re: [gentoo-user] Hijacking threads
Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2008, at 07:40, Suman Chakrabarty wrote: References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After successful installation of Gentoo 2008 on an old Compaq Pressario notebook, I was trying to emerge kde-meta on it, but was not successful. :( Please don't hijack threads like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/8a540add45e7e9b8? It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients... In case you didn't know, it happens when you use reply for sending a new question instead of composing a new message. I am really sorry for the trouble. I did not know my email client (Thunderbird) was that intelligent! I was not sure whether the list e-mail address was present in my address book and hence I took the easy way out of responding to a list message with modifying the subject line. I was not aware of the underlying thread-awareness. I'll not repeat it next time. Thanks for pointing out. Regards, Suman Chakrabarty.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:50:47 schrieb ext Xav: No... The -D doesn't stand for deep update, but for deep, so with deep, portage will also check dependencies of the package. Try to do emerge -D kdelibs and you will see that portage reemerge kdelibs. To have a deep update, the right command is emerge -Du/emerge --deep --update... In his case, with emerge --newuse --deep, portage has checked that no use flags has changed for kdelibs and all of his dependencies Yes, you're right. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:45:01 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:41:24 schrieb ext Sebastian Beßler: It is not the -1 that is added but the --newuse that is left. Once more: it's _not_ because of --newuse, but because of -D! Seems that was nonsense, --newuse was the cause. Sorry for the hassle. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:32:01 -0500, Dale wrote: Let me give this a shot. You don't really want every package you have installed to be recorded in the world file. It can make you do updates that you may not really need. That's not the main reason for keeping world clean, since emerge --update will update direct dependencies of packages in world, and --deep will update anything upon which a package in world ultimately depends. The main reason is that it stops your system being filled with cruft by allowing emerge --depclean to work. If you put a library in world, then even if you have removed all the packages that previously needed it, or those packages no longer depend on it, portage will still consider it a necessary part of your system. -- Neil Bothwick I have a spelling checker, it came with my Pea See; It helps me too correct Miss Steaks eye mite knot sea. I ran these versus threw it, yew mae bee pleased too no Its word prefect in every weight; my spell cheque tolled me sew! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
Hi, I have tried to setup a software Raid1 for root (/), boot, home and var. So far, so good. Support is in kernel. The four ones are assembled: Personalities : [raid1] md3 : active raid1 sda6[0] sdb6[1] 421906944 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sda5[0] sdb5[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 39061952 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] 64128 blocks [2/2] [UU] looks good. and in grub.conf I have this: title=raid root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 md=1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat I also created md1,2,3, in /dev. But on every single boot I get a kernel panic because rootfs is not found. Has anybody an idea why and what is going wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:41:42 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have tried to setup a software Raid1 for root (/), boot, home and var. So far, so good. Support is in kernel. The four ones are assembled: Personalities : [raid1] md3 : active raid1 sda6[0] sdb6[1] 421906944 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sda5[0] sdb5[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 39061952 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] 64128 blocks [2/2] [UU] looks good. and in grub.conf I have this: title=raid root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 md=1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat I also created md1,2,3, in /dev. But on every single boot I get a kernel panic because rootfs is not found. Has anybody an idea why and what is going wrong? You have to know that the kernel isn't able to assemble RAID devices together without the use of mdadm. So you have to use an initrd with the mdadm binary to use a RAID root ! If you are using genkernel, add --mdraid to your kernel compilation command line. Once you have an initrd with the mdadm binary and appropriate script to assemble RAID arrays, you'll be able to boot from your root RAID array ;) HTH. -- Xavier
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:11:34 +0530, Suman Chakrabarty wrote: But, emerge -1v kdelibs worked as suggested. I don't understand why it works with -1 option added, but not without. It has nothing to do with the addition of -1, which only affects the world file, but the removal of --newuse. Had you simply added -1 to the command you used previously, it would still have done nothing. -- Neil Bothwick I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:03 +0200, Xav' wrote: You have to know that the kernel isn't able to assemble RAID devices together without the use of mdadm. So you have to use an initrd with the mdadm binary to use a RAID root ! Could you please keep quiet about that, my computers have been using RAID root devices for years without an initrd and I don't want them to get the idea they need one now. Volker, are sda3 and sdb3 marked as Linux Raid autodetect in cfdisk? If not you may need mdadm, but with the partitions marked as autodetect, the kernel should figure it out for itself. This is the kernel line I use in menu.lst, there is no initrd kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/md0 vga=794 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil Bothwick Every time I jump on the bandwagon all its wheels fall off. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:59:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:03 +0200, Xav' wrote: You have to know that the kernel isn't able to assemble RAID devices together without the use of mdadm. So you have to use an initrd with the mdadm binary to use a RAID root ! Could you please keep quiet about that, my computers have been using RAID root devices for years without an initrd and I don't want them to get the idea they need one now. Okay sorry but i wasn't aware about that... When i set up RAID, following HowTos from both gentoo-wiki.com and gentoo.org, and nowhere there is indications of the auto-detection and assembling by the kernel... Maybe not the right information source ? Volker, are sda3 and sdb3 marked as Linux Raid autodetect in cfdisk? If not you may need mdadm, but with the partitions marked as autodetect, the kernel should figure it out for itself. This is the kernel line I use in menu.lst, there is no initrd kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/md0 vga=794 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Xavier
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
[ 28.08.2008 16:41 ], Volker Armin Hemmann : Hi, I have tried to setup a software Raid1 for root (/), boot, home and var. So far, so good. Support is in kernel. The four ones are assembled: Personalities : [raid1] md3 : active raid1 sda6[0] sdb6[1] 421906944 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sda5[0] sdb5[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 39061952 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] 64128 blocks [2/2] [UU] looks good. and in grub.conf I have this: title=raid root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 md=1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat I also created md1,2,3, in /dev. But on every single boot I get a kernel panic because rootfs is not found. Has anybody an idea why and what is going wrong? If you are sure kernel has compiled-in modules for raid, device mappers and others to look at the disk .. Maybe it is type of the partition, it should be FD which means 'Linux raid autodetect' . -- Rafał (ert16) Trójniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key-ID : DD681D47 749F E1DC A58F 9084 BBC0 797A 0691 53D6 DD68 1D47 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:03 +0200, Xav' wrote: You have to know that the kernel isn't able to assemble RAID devices together without the use of mdadm. So you have to use an initrd with the mdadm binary to use a RAID root ! Could you please keep quiet about that, my computers have been using RAID root devices for years without an initrd and I don't want them to get the idea they need one now. thanks, the last thing I want to deal with is an initrd. Volker, are sda3 and sdb3 marked as Linux Raid autodetect in cfdisk? If not you may need mdadm, but with the partitions marked as autodetect, the kernel should figure it out for itself. fdisk -l /dev/sda Platte /dev/sda: 500.1 GByte, 500107862016 Byte 255 Köpfe, 63 Sektoren/Spuren, 60801 Zylinder Einheiten = Zylinder von 16065 × 512 = 8225280 Bytes Disk identifier: 0x Gerät boot. AnfangEnde Blöcke Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 8 64228+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sda2 9 981 7815622+ 82 Linux Swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 982584439062047+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sda45845 60801 441442102+ 5 Erweiterte /dev/sda55845827619535008+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sda68277 60801 421907031 fd Linux raid autodetect fdisk -l /dev/sdb Platte /dev/sdb: 500.1 GByte, 500107862016 Byte 255 Köpfe, 63 Sektoren/Spuren, 60801 Zylinder Einheiten = Zylinder von 16065 × 512 = 8225280 Bytes Disk identifier: 0x Gerät boot. AnfangEnde Blöcke Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 8 64228+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb2 9 981 7815622+ 82 Linux Swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 982584439062047+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb45845 60801 441442102+ 5 Erweiterte /dev/sdb55845827619535008+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb68277 60801 421907031 fd Linux raid autodetect if I only give root=/dev/md1 it won't boot either. and from config: CONFIG_MD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y # CONFIG_MD_LINEAR is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID0 is not set CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y are there more kernel options I might have missed?
[gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
I have been trying to hold out for KDE 4.1 entering the main gentoo portage tree, and some kind of announcement on the list; however, I haven't seen any and it's been a while since KDE 4.1 was released...(longer I think than it took for KDE 4.0.1 to get into the main portage tree.) I am not one for wanting to try doing the overlay's yet, so I have been waiting for it to enter the main portage. I haven't even seen it in as a hard mask yet. So, I just wanted to check to see if there was any known timeline for when KDE 4.1 might enter the main portage tree, when might it go to the testing branch? I'd very much like to try it out when it gets to testing; and just wanted to get an idea of how long I might still need to wait. (As I said, I'm not quite up to using the overlay trees yet, of which I've seen a lot of activity regarding KDE 4.1 per the user's and AMD64 lists.) Any how...just curious when it will come. Thanks, Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
=== On Thursday 28 August 2008, BRM wrote: === I have been trying to hold out for KDE 4.1 entering the main gentoo portage tree, and some kind of announcement on the list; however, I haven't seen any and it's been a while since KDE 4.1 was released...(longer I think than it took for KDE 4.0.1 to get into the main portage tree.) I am not one for wanting to try doing the overlay's yet, so I have been waiting for it to enter the main portage. I haven't even seen it in as a hard mask yet. So, I just wanted to check to see if there was any known timeline for when KDE 4.1 might enter the main portage tree, when might it go to the testing branch? I'd very much like to try it out when it gets to testing; and just wanted to get an idea of how long I might still need to wait. (As I said, I'm not quite up to using the overlay trees yet, of which I've seen a lot of activity regarding KDE 4.1 per the user's and AMD64 lists.) Any how...just curious when it will come. Thanks, Ben Ben, sorry, my question is OT wrt your message. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, ert256 wrote: [ 28.08.2008 16:41 ], Volker Armin Hemmann : Hi, I have tried to setup a software Raid1 for root (/), boot, home and var. So far, so good. Support is in kernel. The four ones are assembled: Personalities : [raid1] md3 : active raid1 sda6[0] sdb6[1] 421906944 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sda5[0] sdb5[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 39061952 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] 64128 blocks [2/2] [UU] looks good. and in grub.conf I have this: title=raid root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 md=1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat I also created md1,2,3, in /dev. But on every single boot I get a kernel panic because rootfs is not found. Has anybody an idea why and what is going wrong? If you are sure kernel has compiled-in modules for raid, device mappers and others to look at the disk .. Maybe it is type of the partition, it should be FD which means 'Linux raid autodetect' . it has raid1 compiled in. dm not. Why? I am not using it. And as I have written in that other mail - all partitions are fd.
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 17:30:44 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: thanks, the last thing I want to deal with is an initrd. It's initramfs nowadays and that's quite easy to handle. Bye... Dirk
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.1...
Andrew Gaydenko a at gaydenko.com writes: I have been trying to hold out for KDE 4.1 entering the main gentoo portage tree, and some kind of announcement on the list; YES many of us await a tree release of KDE 4. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Not a single thing, the KDE is just release KDE 4 to keep up with the Jones..(sarcasm) Are you kidding? Whom among us using kde has not had problem with kde3? ARTS is my latest ugly kde issue (even though it may still exist in kde 4). From the kde.org website: KDE 4.1 is the first KDE4 release to contain the Personal Information Management suite KDE-PIM Like with our previous release much time has been devoted to improving the framework and underlying libraries on which KDE is built. I've read several places that KDE 4 will be used on the (tentative) September release of the Gentoo liveCD. Maybe that's our clue as to when to expect some version of kde 4 in the portage tree (stable or testing)? Lots of folks feel your pain for KDE 4 hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: How to publish a project?
Chuanwen Wu wcw8410 at gmail.com writes: I have written a project, which is a distribution net file system, and I want to publish it under GPL. I have source code now of course, but I don't know how to make package and publish it as a project . Well you can just make the code available via cvs or svn. Or you can publish your code via freshmeat or sourceforge, or directly off of your ftp/web server. First you have to decide if it is just a command line package or gui as to how to package it. The answer will differ, slightly according to which distro you wish to publish it for. Let assume gentoo is your distro choice. My suggestion would be to have a look at these links (but google for more): http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/sunrise/ http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=0chap=0 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
080828 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: 080828 BRM wrote: I have been trying to hold out for KDE 4.1 entering the Gentoo tree and some kind of announcement on the list; is there any known timeline for when KDE 4.1 might go to the testing branch? I too am waiting to see KDE 4.1 appear in the testing list. The KDE devs are always short-staffed, so let's give them a big cheer, but a few words of their plans would help KDE users (smile). Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. My estimate (also based on reading screenshots) is that it is 60 % eye candy, 30 % hype 10 % useful improvements: the basic motivation is to make it work well with Qt 4 . Dolphin is offered as a simpler alternative to Konqueror file-management, but I use CLI everyday with Krusader for heavy lifting occasionally (I also have Vifm installed, but have little actual use for it); Gwenview apparently has an improved interface; however, the Kicker panel (renamed) is still not fully configurable. Otherwise, KDE 3.5.10 was announced yesterday. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 17:30:44 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: thanks, the last thing I want to deal with is an initrd. It's initramfs nowadays and that's quite easy to handle. do you have a nice little howto? Not some general one but a 'you need this to get raid1 root booting'. Because I am totally stuck. From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kde-meta troubles
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:45:01 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 15:41:24 schrieb ext Sebastian Beßler: It is not the -1 that is added but the --newuse that is left. Once more: it's _not_ because of --newuse, but because of -D! Seems that was nonsense, --newuse was the cause. Sorry for the hassle. Bye... Dirk Now I'm not so confused. Whew! LOL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
You don't need all of that... With mdadm can you put your RAID array as persistent. If it is persistent your kernel can use the autodetect function and build it before mount / I have in my raidtab # cat /etc/raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level1 chunk-size4k persistent-superblock 1 nr-raid-disks 2 device/dev/sda2 raid-disk 0 device/dev/sdb2 raid-disk 1 After that I built it I use any tools expect, as you, RAID support built in kernel Luigi Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 17:30:44 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: thanks, the last thing I want to deal with is an initrd. It's initramfs nowadays and that's quite easy to handle. Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:41:04 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic Root device or root fs? -- Neil Bothwick Q: What's the proper plural of a 'Net-connected Windows machine? A: A Botnet signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
On Thursday 28 August 2008 17:56:37 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Ben, sorry, my question is OT wrt your message. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Don't even bother trying KDE4 if you have a recent nVidia card. Performance is atrocious as KDE4 uses acceleration effects in plasma etc that nVidia didn't account for in their driver, with the results that significant amounts of rendering are done using a software path (i.e. not in hardware), which is very slow. There also doesn't appear to be any quick fix coming anytime soon. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 17:30:44 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: thanks, the last thing I want to deal with is an initrd. It's initramfs nowadays and that's quite easy to handle. do you have a nice little howto? Not some general one but a 'you need this to get raid1 root booting'. Because I am totally stuck. From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic. I created an initramfs with genkernel (I hate genkernel). Now it works. grmpf. I wish I wouldn't have to use it.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
Philip Webb wrote: 080828 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: 080828 BRM wrote: Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. My estimate (also based on reading screenshots) is that it is 60 % eye candy, 30 % hype 10 % useful improvements: the basic motivation is to make it work well with Qt 4 . Dolphin is offered as a simpler alternative to Konqueror file-management, And if I understand correctly, then main reason for Qt 4 is that KDE apps should then be able to run on other OSes (read that as windoze). I tried Dolphin on a Kubuntu system, IMO it is a giant step backwards from Konqueror (ex, no fish://). Also from what I gather KDE 4.1 is another developer release with 4.2 target as the first user (usable?) release. On the plus side, the synergy of KDE4 apps is improved (example, common address book) so we can look forward to a smoother user experience. On the negative side, the nvidia binary drivers still have major performance issues with KDE4. This is a show stopper for me. If nvidia does not fix their drivers by KDE 4.2, I'll have to replace video cards... Of course that assumes nvidia is still around after their packaging fiasco. :(
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
On Thursday 28 August 2008 19:29:28 Philip Webb wrote: Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. My estimate (also based on reading screenshots) is that it is 60 % eye candy, 30 % hype 10 % useful improvements: the basic motivation is to make it work well with Qt 4 . To be fair to the KDE devs, KDE4 is not meant to be a replacement for KDE3, or even a natural evolution of it. It's a break with the past and a trip down a new road in interface design. The code that has been put there forms a framework to make new stuff possible in the future, and that new stuff is intended to be very different from the usual computer desktop that is pretty much unchained since Xerox designed it 30 odd years ago. The eye-candy IS eye- candy, but it's eye-candy with a purpose and has not been done for the sake of mere bling and keeping up with the Joneses using compiz. But these new cool changes have not been written yet. Only the framework that will make them possible has been written. The apps that have been ported are by and large the existing 3.5 apps and work pretty much the same way, just as a start to get KDE4 into use. So KDE4 falls very short of being a fully usable desktop, so much so that if anyone wants the functionality of KDE-3.5, then they should stick with that branch. As traditional desktops go, there's nothing wrong with it, and it is still actively maintained. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:41:04 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic Root device or root fs? it doesn't find /dev/md1 (unknown block device) and panics. And yes, I created md0,1,2,3 with mknod in /dev The partitions (sda3,b3) themselves are found fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
Le Thursday 28 August 2008 20:45:15 Volker Armin Hemmann, vous avez écrit : On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:41:04 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic Root device or root fs? it doesn't find /dev/md1 (unknown block device) and panics. And yes, I created md0,1,2,3 with mknod in /dev Did you create the nodes with de /dev partition unmounted ? I think you have to check this... because when the kernel boot up, the /dev partition is unmounted :) The partitions (sda3,b3) themselves are found fine. Regards, Xavier Parizet signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] postgresql replication with slony1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I need know if somebody here has installed/configured a postgresql replication where gentoo is a master host. I'm trying to make it using slony1, but have some mismatch configuration, look: / USER=postgres CLUSTER=slave.host DBUSER=snort DBNAME=snort_log DBHOST=master.host LOGFILE=/var/lib/postgresql/data/slony1.log LOGLEVEL=4 # 1(minimum)..4(maximum)/ I think that the error are in CLUSTER option looking in slony1's log: /2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT CONFIG main: slon version 1.2.10 starting up 2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT DEBUG2 slon: watchdog process started 2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT DEBUG2 slon: watchdog ready - pid = 22743 2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT ERROR cannot get sl_local_node_id - ERROR: schema _solaris.semfio.usp.br does not exi st 2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT FATAL main: Node is not initialized properly - sleep 10s 2008-08-28 15:16:57 BRT DEBUG2 slon: worker process created - pid = 22751 2008-08-28 15:17:02 BRT DEBUG1 slon: shutdown requested 2008-08-28 15:17:02 BRT DEBUG2 slon: notify worker process to shutdown 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT DEBUG2 slon_retry() from pid=22751 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT DEBUG1 slon: retry requested 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT DEBUG2 slon: notify worker process to shutdown 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT FATAL main: write to worker pipe failed -(9) Bad file descriptor 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT DEBUG2 slon: remove pid file 2008-08-28 15:17:07 BRT DEBUG2 slon: exit(-1) /Then, if some smart guy has implemented yet this service have some trick or how-to to make it work in my gentoo box, i'll very gratefully. If have any other method to make a postgresql repliction, like pgcluster, please talk to me. Thanks for this time. Zhu Sha Zang -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAki29QcACgkQbLyL8mxGP9QO1gCgtv29yK1wiXcnGds/y+o4FieR WpIAnjEyYlGmCnRoOEkBPBJqJjNI1sEF =IIWx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2008 17:56:37 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Ben, sorry, my question is OT wrt your message. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Don't even bother trying KDE4 if you have a recent nVidia card. Performance is atrocious as KDE4 uses acceleration effects in plasma etc that nVidia didn't account for in their driver, with the results that significant amounts of rendering are done using a software path (i.e. not in hardware), which is very slow. There also doesn't appear to be any quick fix coming anytime soon. well, it was mostly fixed with their latest beta drivers.
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Xav' wrote: Le Thursday 28 August 2008 20:45:15 Volker Armin Hemmann, vous avez écrit : On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:41:04 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: From the stuff I read it should work - but I always get a root not found panic Root device or root fs? it doesn't find /dev/md1 (unknown block device) and panics. And yes, I created md0,1,2,3 with mknod in /dev Did you create the nodes with de /dev partition unmounted ? I think you have to check this... because when the kernel boot up, the /dev partition is unmounted :) yes I did. I copied root to a spare disk first and booted from it.
Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:52:33 +0200, Xav' wrote: it doesn't find /dev/md1 (unknown block device) and panics. And yes, I created md0,1,2,3 with mknod in /dev Did you create the nodes with de /dev partition unmounted ? I think you have to check this... because when the kernel boot up, the /dev partition is unmounted :) I don't have any such nodes in my static /dev (only console and null in there) they are created by the kernel. -- Neil Bothwick - How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? - Two: one to hold the giraffe, the other to fill the bathtub with lots of brightly colored machine tools. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
On Thursday 28 August 2008 21:03:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2008 17:56:37 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Ben, sorry, my question is OT wrt your message. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Don't even bother trying KDE4 if you have a recent nVidia card. Performance is atrocious as KDE4 uses acceleration effects in plasma etc that nVidia didn't account for in their driver, with the results that significant amounts of rendering are done using a software path (i.e. not in hardware), which is very slow. There also doesn't appear to be any quick fix coming anytime soon. well, it was mostly fixed with their latest beta drivers. You mean 177.68 right? It's far from fixed here. Admittedly better than 173.*, but the vast majority of work remains to be done: translucent menu paints very slow, 3 seconds+ and jerky. Window resize slow, the content cannot keep up with a mere resize, a full repaint takes about three seconds. Window move is not perfect, but acceptable. The move motion is noticeably jerky, but the rendering of content and repainting of unobscured content below is fine. This tells me that the actual problem, as defined by AaronP on nvnews.net[1] is not being fixed in these releases, just worked around. TwinView JustWorks(tm) - what a relief! I had images of yet another massive debugging and config session when my boss proudly presented me with a brand new 17 LCD. Apparently all the sysadmins get them, just because we can :-) I'm noticing stability problems since using 177.67 - The GUI suddenly freezes solid, gkrellm stops updating, no keyboard input but mouse motion does still work. If I change to a virtual console and back to X, I get a black screen and white pointer. Luckily, I can usually log in on a virtual console and SIGHUP the window manager, this often fixes it. The only changes recently have been to e17 and the nvidia driver. I'd be tempted to say my e17 from CVS is buggy, but I get the exact same problem running KDE4, leaving the driver as the only common change. alan [1] Essentially, that most drivers when compositing are optimized for window resize in their use of video memory. nVidia instead built their stuff to optimize the common case - window refresh and move. This has the side effect of resizes falling back to a default (and excruciatingly slow) software code path. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to publish a project?
James ha scritto: Chuanwen Wu wcw8410 at gmail.com writes: I have written a project, which is a distribution net file system, and I want to publish it under GPL. I have source code now of course, but I don't know how to make package and publish it as a project . Well you can just make the code available via cvs or svn. Or you can publish your code via freshmeat or sourceforge, or directly off of your ftp/web server. I would strongly recommend using a public version management system if you want to maintain an open source project (and even a non-open one). I personally use Subversion (SVN) on Google Code; which, for my needs, fits well, is very well documented it is very simple to use. Google Code also has a very easy web interface, even if not as flexible as Sourceforge (but I found working with SF a bit of a pain). A lot of people praise a lot Git, so maybe you should check that out too before deciding (I don't know what source code repositories support Git, by the way). Just stay away from CVS: it is old, clunky and it is currently being phased out by most people. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to publish a project?
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am not sure if here is a right place to ask such question, but I just think maybe someone here have such experience and may help me. I have written a project, which is a distribution net file system, and I want to publish it under GPL. I have source code now of course, but I don't know how to make package and publish it as a project . I need the details, then I can follow step by step and make my dream come true :) I have read Software Release Practice HOWTO(http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Release-Practice-HOWTO/index.html), but it seems very old. So maybe you can give some advice? Any help will be appreciated! -- wcw The most important thing to do is to include a LICENSE file as part of your source code. Also you need to have some text in the beginning of all of your source files. Read all about there here: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html After you do this, make your source code availible via svn, cvs, or just via tar balls. Then you can make an ebuild, etc. if you want it to work with portage, etc.
[gentoo-user] idea on updates
Well, I know I'm asking for a few flames here, but, this idea just popped into my head and I cannot get rid of it. When you sync and update a system that has not been updated for a while, you get many packages to upgrade. OK usually not a problem. However, myself (and many other folks) are rather lazy: we do not watch the terminal session for hours, looking for those tidbits of info of little pesky admin things to do upon updating a package (let alone dozens of packages). We are also lazy: we do not parse the log files looking for those 'little pesky admin things to do upon updating a package' either. Much pain results for lots of regular folks, like forgetting to run 'python-updater'. So any ideas on an enhancement/fix? Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Just a thought, I figured I'd put up here for discussion. In fact some of the younger/sharper minds should come up with an even slicker way for those instructions to hang around, so that us lazy admins are forced into a convenient click or 2 to dismiss these little pesky admin caveats? thoughts? James
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2008 21:03:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2008 17:56:37 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Ben, sorry, my question is OT wrt your message. Are there indeed good things (I don't mean ruches and flowers) in KDE4 to worry about them at all? Reading all those KDE4 reviews I really can not understand why KDE4 may be more useful for me rather KDE3. Don't even bother trying KDE4 if you have a recent nVidia card. Performance is atrocious as KDE4 uses acceleration effects in plasma etc that nVidia didn't account for in their driver, with the results that significant amounts of rendering are done using a software path (i.e. not in hardware), which is very slow. There also doesn't appear to be any quick fix coming anytime soon. well, it was mostly fixed with their latest beta drivers. You mean 177.68 right? It's far from fixed here. Admittedly better than 173.*, but the vast majority of work remains to be done: translucent menu paints very slow, 3 seconds+ and jerky. Window resize slow, the content cannot keep up with a mere resize, a full repaint takes about three seconds. Window move is not perfect, but acceptable. The move motion is noticeably jerky, but the rendering of content and repainting of unobscured content below is fine. This tells me that the actual problem, as defined by AaronP on nvnews.net[1] is not being fixed in these releases, just worked around. TwinView JustWorks(tm) - what a relief! I had images of yet another massive debugging and config session when my boss proudly presented me with a brand new 17 LCD. Apparently all the sysadmins get them, just because we can :-) I'm noticing stability problems since using 177.67 - The GUI suddenly freezes solid, gkrellm stops updating, no keyboard input but mouse motion does still work. If I change to a virtual console and back to X, I get a black screen and white pointer. Luckily, I can usually log in on a virtual console and SIGHUP the window manager, this often fixes it. The only changes recently have been to e17 and the nvidia driver. I'd be tempted to say my e17 from CVS is buggy, but I get the exact same problem running KDE4, leaving the driver as the only common change. alan [1] Essentially, that most drivers when compositing are optimized for window resize in their use of video memory. nVidia instead built their stuff to optimize the common case - window refresh and move. This has the side effect of resizes falling back to a default (and excruciatingly slow) software code path. they released 177.70 today ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote: Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #09: Game Over. Exiting Windows. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.1...
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: It's far from fixed here. Admittedly better than 173.*, but the vast majority of work remains to be done: What ever happened to all of those folks that said Nvidia is the superior video vendor? I took quite a beating (on this list) for backing/promoting ATI, because I believe that AMD would do the right thing for the Linux community. Apologies accepted (in advance) from all of those Nvidia pundits. AMD (and now ATI) rules. methinks James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.1...
On Donnerstag, 28. August 2008, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: It's far from fixed here. Admittedly better than 173.*, but the vast majority of work remains to be done: What ever happened to all of those folks that said Nvidia is the superior video vendor? once upon a time that was true. and some people say that the new beta drivers rock. I can't check it myself - I sold my nvidia card and bought ati. Apologies accepted (in advance) from all of those Nvidia pundits. I want to apologise if I ever bashed you. AMD (and now ATI) rules. methinks their binary drivers are so-so. But their open source driver initiative is great.
Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote: Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages. I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too. --Joshua Doll
Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates
Joshua D Doll wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote: Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages. I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too. --Joshua Doll I use elogviewer myself. Works pretty good. I can also clear out the old logs when I have everything updated and stable as well. Gives me a fresh start for next time. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates
Joshua D Doll wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote: Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages. I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too. Sounds like a really useful tool, but I can't see where to get it. According to eix, the only elog tools are direct viewers. I'd really like one that can email me, where can I find it? Thanks Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates
Matt Harrison wrote: Joshua D Doll wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote: Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up. Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages. I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too. Sounds like a really useful tool, but I can't see where to get it. According to eix, the only elog tools are direct viewers. I'd really like one that can email me, where can I find it? Thanks Matt I don't use the email feature but I got this from man make.conf: PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for elog documentation. I would look at the make.conf.example file to see how to set that up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1
080828 Roy Wright wrote: if I understand correctly, then main reason for Qt 4 is that KDE apps sb able to run on other OSes, eg Windoze. Yes, that's good ! -- the way to get M$ofties to use free software is to offer them our desktops apps, st the Windows OS gets orphaned. I tried Dolphin on a Kubuntu system, IMO it is a giant step backwards from Konqueror, eg no fish:// . Krusader is very good for using Ssh on a remote machine. Its devs are planning a 2.0 to match KDE 4.x . Also from what I gather KDE 4.1 is another developer release with 4.2 target as the first user (usable?) release. The KDE devs have been very apologetic re not warning enough for 4.0 . IIRC 4.2 is predicted for early 2009 should have more functions restored. the nvidia binary drivers still have major performance issues with KDE4. This is a show stopper for me. Me too. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: idea on updates
Dale dalek1967 at bellsouth.net writes: Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, OK elog look good. Is this the best wiki to use to initailly set it up? http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Making_portage_use_/usr/sbin/sendmail_to_send_out_ELOG_mails ? James
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.1...
Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: I want to apologise if I ever bashed you. Nope and it does not matter, I never remember those things anyway. AMD (and now ATI) rules. methinks their binary drivers are so-so. But their open source driver initiative is great. If you follow AMD, they 'get it'. I have had high hopes for ATI once AMD took over. Patiences is difficult, but, I believe that AMD (ATI) will do the Linux community right, particularly if they want to keep selling hardware to us when Intel has a (current) technical advantage. Intel is the other sleeper. With the best physics (smallest processes) it's only a matter of time before they have a graphic chip, that can be put on the same substrate as the CPU and they'll be competitive, particularly from a price point perspective. The real battle is who's GPU becomes the easiest processor to use with the cisc/risc processors as a generic part of the OS. We'll just have to wait on this, but, my money is on AMD, because they're more likely to do something cool for the greater Linux community than Intel, imho. Nvidia, without a CPU partner, is dying on the vine, as we speak. Look for their stock to plung, if they do not find a (CPU) company to buy and soon. They should have picked up the PPC before Apple ditched it for Intel, imho. cheers! James
[gentoo-user] Linux vs Alteon
My gentoo laptop is receiving an appropriate arp-reply from an alteon 2208 (according to tcpdump), but doesnt put it in its arp table. A windows box on the same port works fine. Has anyone come across this? Can i debug arp on linux?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: idea on updates
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:46:36 + (UTC), James wrote: OK elog look good. Is this the best wiki to use to initailly set it up? http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Making_portage_use_/usr/sbin/sendmail_to_send_out_ELOG_mails Hardly the TIP is now obsolete! See /etc/make.conf.example for further details. -- Neil Bothwick The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. * Bohr signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fdisk - expanding a partition beyond 2TB
Stroller wrote: On 27 Aug 2008, at 05:28, Dave Oxley wrote: ... I've just added a fourth disk to my Raid 5 set increasing the capacity from 1.5TB to 2.25TB. I have 4 partitions on this volume set; the fourth of which is 1.49TB which is then further subdivided using lvm2. ... Hi there, Is the problem that you've got 4 partitions this prevents you form making a 5th? Because using LVM I would simply create a new partition and add it to the volume group. The contents *should* indeed remain intact if one simply deletes the partition recreates at the same starting point, yet larger. I'm sure I've used parted as well as cfdisk for this sort of thing in the past, yet hesitate to recommend either as I would fear making a typo with an unfamiliar tool, thereby rendering my data mythical. Stroller. Yes, part of the problem is that I can't create a fifth partition. However, even if possible, this wouldn't have been my ideal solution anyway as it would negate some of the performance benefit gained from having one huge partition over the whole array. But my real question is, as I've reached the max partition for the msdos partition table, can I migrate to a GPT partition table without losing my data? Cheers, Dave.
