Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] test, if module was loaded with module option?

2008-12-31 Thread Christian Franke
On 12/29/2008 02:32 PM, Marc Blumentritt wrote: is there a general way to test, if a kernel module was loaded with a module option and which module options were used? There is at least /sys/module/modulname/parameters/parametername If there is nothing else, one could at least compare each

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] test, if module was loaded with module option?

2008-12-31 Thread Julien Porschen
2008/12/31 Christian Franke cfchr...@yahoo.de: On 12/29/2008 02:32 PM, Marc Blumentritt wrote: is there a general way to test, if a kernel module was loaded with a module option and which module options were used? There is at least /sys/module/modulname/parameters/parametername If there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread damian
Hi Daniel, Thanks for your response. I'll try to make some time to test your tips. You can also try booting a Fedora/Ubuntu/SuSE LiveCD, and see if with their kernel the same happens (given that suspend works on their LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that

Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread damian
LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that can give us a hint. That I can try, I still keep the Ubuntu (shame on me! :P) which I used to install Gentoo. Nope. I've booted with Ubuntu (damn it boots slow! :P) and after suspending the usb port was still yielding

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge svgalib (1.9.25) fails with gentoo-sources-2.6.28

2008-12-31 Thread Thanasis
OK, this seems to be an already filed bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252614

[gentoo-user] [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called enthusiasts, I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when enabling the fade effect for menus, clicking on a menu results in a faint,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Matt Harrison
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called enthusiasts, I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when enabling the fade effect for menus, clicking on a menu

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Source Family Tree software?

2008-12-31 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:05:48 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com wrote: Mark Knecht schrieb am 30.11.2008 00:29: It seems that gramps is doing something sort of like this but one wonders just how large their

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Matt Harrison wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called enthusiasts, I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when enabling the fade effect for

Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread Robert Bridge
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:42:54 +0100 damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that can give us a hint. That I can try, I still keep the Ubuntu (shame on me! :P) which I used to install Gentoo. Nope. I've booted with Ubuntu (damn

[gentoo-user] KVM recognition changes in recent kernels

2008-12-31 Thread Harry Putnam
kernel 2.6.27-r7 and 2.6.28 and several other earlier kenels Summary: Anyone here know more details about the kernel settings and KVM switching? Details: (and inlined dmesg) I'm not exactly sure when or what kernel was in use when this change in behavior started but its been at least 2 mnths

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 31 December 2008, 15:56, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: It's coming from the case, not the speakers. BTW, this happens in both gentoo and windows xp for me. Same here. The sound is loudest when running the Mother Nature test of 3DMark 03. Happening with every card I ever tried (an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Matt Harrison
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Wednesday 31 December 2008, 15:56, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: It's coming from the case, not the speakers. BTW, this happens in both gentoo and windows xp for me. Same here. The sound is loudest when running the Mother Nature test of 3DMark 03. Happening with every

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] High-pitched sound from inside the PC when opening menus

2008-12-31 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: This is a question that is off topic of course, but I'm not sure *where* it would be on-topic. Considering that Gentoo users are also often so-called enthusiasts, I'll drop the question here ;) In KDE (3), when

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM recognition changes in recent kernels

2008-12-31 Thread Neil Walker
Harry Putnam wrote: I have to have a second keyboard connected direct if I want to mess around with grub or something... while testing kernels. The kernel isn't even loaded at that point so how can you blame it? It looks like a hardware/BIOS problem to me from what you have said. FWIW, I am

[gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Dale
Hi, I recently stole me a Motorola Razr phone and it didn't come with the manual. I downloaded it off the Motorola website and was reading, or attempting to read, it when Kpdf crashed. It does this when I scroll down to about page 30 or so. It's a pretty large document since it has both

[gentoo-user] Re: Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: attempting to read, it when Kpdf crashed. tried acroread? works great for me. ymmv, James

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now

2008-12-31 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: Then something is wrong with your box or it isn't powerful enough. It isn't. Works perfectly in mine. Same here (at home.) Nikos, I had a problem with a dual (amd) machine once. I dropped MAKEOPTS=-j3 to -j1 for a while and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Dale
James wrote: Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: attempting to read, it when Kpdf crashed. tried acroread? works great for me. ymmv, James I did use something else to finish reading my manual but I prefer to use Kpdf since I am accustomed to it already. I just

[gentoo-user] Re: Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread James
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: I did use something else to finish reading my manual but I prefer to use Kpdf since I am accustomed to it already. I just want to try and get it fixed for next time plus, it may be a bug that needs some Raid sprayed on it. All of the open source *pdf

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Matt Causey
You wanna post the PDF? I'd be curious to see if it crashes kpdf on my system... -- Matt On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently stole me a Motorola Razr phone and it didn't come with the manual. I downloaded it off the Motorola website and was

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Dale
Matt Causey wrote: You wanna post the PDF? I'd be curious to see if it crashes kpdf on my system... -- Matt On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently stole me a Motorola Razr phone and it didn't come with the manual. I downloaded it off the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Dale
James wrote: Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: I did use something else to finish reading my manual but I prefer to use Kpdf since I am accustomed to it already. I just want to try and get it fixed for next time plus, it may be a bug that needs some Raid sprayed on it. All

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Dale: Matt Causey wrote: You wanna post the PDF? I'd be curious to see if it crashes kpdf on my system... -- Matt On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently stole me a Motorola Razr phone and it didn't come with the manual.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Matt Causey
Well...I've seen more than one dodgy PDF document crash readers before. Seems that there must be features or fonts (as mentioned earlier...) which can crash readers that were not written by Adobe... On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:44 PM, darren kirby bulli...@badcomputer.org wrote: quoth the Dale:

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Dale
darren kirby wrote: quoth the Dale: It is pretty big so I'll post a link. http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/motorola-razr-v3i_user-manual.a spx Just click on the link to download the manual. I think it is about 4 or 5Mbs or so. I'm on dialup so it takes me a little while.

[gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Michael P. Soulier
So, like a good gentoo user I'm emerging some updates available for my system. To my surprise when I happen to look at the screen (as it's taking some time to build and I'm obviously not watching the entire time), I see this: * * WARNING * * * You are currently installing a version

[gentoo-user] pre-emerge steps

2008-12-31 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Having just been bitten by some of my hardware being abandoned with the latest version of a software package I am left to question the entire philosophy in gentoo of always running bleeding edge. Not touching a system that's working is becoming far more tempting, and I'm curious as to what others

Re: [gentoo-user] Kpdf crashes with large documents.

2008-12-31 Thread Philip Webb
081231 darren kirby wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I recently stole a Motorola Razr phone which didn't come with manual. I downloaded it off the Motorola website and was attempting to read, when Kpdf crashed. It does this when I scroll down to about

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM recognition changes in recent kernels

2008-12-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 Dec 2008, at 06:44, Harry Putnam wrote: ... I've noticed a change in recent mnths where until bootup is complete the kvm switch is not recogized. I see that thru several kernel upgrades and various kernel builds. Please confirm that you are able to enter the BIOS using the KVM the

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 Dec 2008, at 23:33, Michael P. Soulier wrote: ... Don't you think the default action here should be to do nothing instead of breaking my system? That proposal is ludicrous and completely counter to the Unix way of doing things. Not my opinion, just quoting. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] pre-emerge steps

2008-12-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 Dec 2008, at 23:51, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Having just been bitten by some of my hardware being abandoned with the latest version of a software package I am left to question the entire philosophy in gentoo of always running bleeding edge. Not touching a system that's working is

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Graham Murray
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca writes: Sure enough, X no longer works. I'm following the instructions now, but... Don't you think the default action here should be to do nothing instead of breaking my system? I think that the default action should be that such 'breakages' should

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Not impressed. Hopefully this critical message would be summarized at the end of the build too. Kind of important. I got lucky and happened to see it... it was. Also: elog and elogv the tools are there. It is your fault of not using

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: it was. Also: elog and elogv the tools are there. It is your fault of not using them. Great, please demonstrate how I was to know about this breakage before it happened, and I'll change how I use the tools. Cheers, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 01/01/09 Graham Murray said: I think that the default action should be that such 'breakages' should be checked during the dependency building phase, a message displayed and the emerge stop[0]. Then you could either mask the offending package or issue a special flag[1] to emerge to

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: it was. Also: elog and elogv the tools are there. It is your fault of not using them. Great, please demonstrate how I was to know about this breakage before it happened, and I'll change

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: after the emerge you read the messages with elogv and downgrade. No harm done. I'll be sure to try that, thank you. However, would not avoiding a bad upgrade in the first place be a better-behaved tool? Especially when the package in question knew that it

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia warning comes a tad late

2008-12-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Januar 2009, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 01/01/09 Volker Armin Hemmann said: after the emerge you read the messages with elogv and downgrade. No harm done. I'll be sure to try that, thank you. However, would not avoiding a bad upgrade in the first place be a