Re: [gentoo-user] 10 G eth (10000) on Gentoo
Nice - multi-queue was vapourware when i last looked. It would be worth checking the driver source/doco to see what's there. Looks like intel made multiqueue available in Nov. 2010. You can set up to 16 queues. http://downloadmirror.intel.com/14687/eng/README.txt
Re: [gentoo-user] compressed filesystem
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:37 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: Btrfs supports on the fly compression Yes it supports two types, lzo and zlib, zlib compresses more densely, and the mount option for that is compress=zlib. Is it reliable? A month ago I returned all my BTRFS partitions to reiserfs because of unfixable errors. Initially I was quite impressed, but until the tools catch up with real world problems I'll watch from the sidelines. Errors will happen, but fixing them is important too. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] compressed filesystem
Is it reliable? So far so go for me. I'm using lzo on my main partition and zlib on /home and on an external drive i use for backup. A month ago I returned all my BTRFS partitions to reiserfs because of unfixable errors. Initially I was quite impressed, but until the tools catch up with real world problems I'll watch from the sidelines. Errors will happen, but fixing them is important too. Which kernel was that with? Was the issue caused by a power loss or normal running? The lack of tools is why Fedora are sticking with ext4 for 16.
Re: [gentoo-user] compressed filesystem
2.6.37 on one machine, and 2.6.39 on the other - those two corrupted during bad shutdowns whilst writing to the FS (well, I am bad for triggering the remote power OFF :) Its not the corruption that was the issue, but that a wipe, reformat and reload was the only fix. Cant remember the exact error - its been known for awhile, but wasn't all that common when i searched for it. If they get a set of usable tools, especially online fsck I'd go back to it as having a drive offline for hours whilst checking reiserfs isn't great (though at least it doesnt happen often) BillK On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 17:13 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: Is it reliable? So far so go for me. I'm using lzo on my main partition and zlib on /home and on an external drive i use for backup. A month ago I returned all my BTRFS partitions to reiserfs because of unfixable errors. Initially I was quite impressed, but until the tools catch up with real world problems I'll watch from the sidelines. Errors will happen, but fixing them is important too. Which kernel was that with? Was the issue caused by a power loss or normal running? The lack of tools is why Fedora are sticking with ext4 for 16.
Re: [gentoo-user] Important package blocked by another important package
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:03:21 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I finally did this, but got further problems: solfire:/rootemerge --color=n -p -v --newuse --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ~] sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 [2.19.1-r1] USE=cramfs crypt ncurses nls perl unicode -loop-aes -old-linux (-selinux) -slang -static-libs% (-uclibc) 4,507 kB [ebuild U ~] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3 [2.88-r2] USE=(-ibm) (-selinux) -static 0 kB [blocks b ] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3 (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3 is blocking sys-apps/util-linux-2.20) Total: 2 packages (2 upgrades), Size of downloads: 4,507 kB That's not a problem, merely information. the lower case b on the block means that portage is able to resolve it. Let the emerge proceed and all will be fine. -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage failed to upgrade
On 2011. aug. 31., szerda, 18.37.11 CEST, Pandu Poluan wrote: (Sorry for top-posting; Gmail java mobile client sucks) gid 0 should be the 'root' gid. Try 'grep -E root|wheel /etc/groups' and see if there is/are groups called 'root' or 'wheel' with gid==0 Also a question: Are you using sudo? Rgds, On 2011-08-31, Space Cake spaceca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For a few days my routine upgrades failing at portage with the following message. Do you have any idea what does it means? File /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/portage-2.1.10.11/image/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/tests/runTests, line 21, in module os.environ[PORTAGE_GRPNAME] = grp.getgrgid(os.getgid()).gr_name KeyError: 'getgrgid(): gid not found: 0' I've tried to google this, but nothing has found Thank you Laszlo Seems my gid is not 0 either for root or wheel... I don't know why, I don't remember if I changed it :) So, I've changed the gid and also the group for the files assigned to the grp 1033, so hopefully portage can upgrade this way :) Thanks for the help Laszlo
Re: [gentoo-user] switch to iproute2 and remove net-tools?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:32, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Why do you want to unmerge net-tools, anyway? 'equery depends' shows that nothing needs it, and why keep an entire package around when I have another package installed that does what the first package is supposed to do? ;)
[gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
On 2011-09-01, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Does 'xset c' work for you? Well, it works as far as it sets the key click value successfully (if you xset q you can see if it's set) but there's no noises made by my computer. Exactly. Looking more at xset it seems it's really just for setting the volume on keyboards with built-in speakers (which I haven't seen for probably 20 years). Luckily(?) my keyboard is so loud it can be heard from the other side of the house. :) At home I'm still using the keyboard that came with my 8MHz IBM PC-AT. It makes plenty of noise -- though it's still quieter than the original IBM PC keyboard. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Look! A ladder! at Maybe it leads to heaven, gmail.comor a sandwich!
Re: [gentoo-user] switch to iproute2 and remove net-tools?
Am 01.09.2011 15:47, schrieb Doug Hunley: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:32, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Why do you want to unmerge net-tools, anyway? 'equery depends' shows that nothing needs it, and why keep an entire package around when I have another package installed that does what the first package is supposed to do? ;) `emerge -pv --depclean sys-apps/net-tools` is more reliable than equery for finding dependencies. It will tell you that net-tools is part of @system. It is generally discouraged for ebuild-developers to add dependencies to stuff that belongs to @system. Therefore equery does not help you find all dependencies. If you are so eager to remove net-tools, you can try to replace all binaries with symlinks to /bin/busybox. It should contain minimal implementations for most binaries like hostname. Note that this can seriously break your system if the busybox implementation is insufficient. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2011, 00:57:37 schrieb Grant Edwards: I didn't reply to the OP. I only replied about xset (non-)functionality, where it sounds like we're in agreement that it just sounds the system bell (or whatever you call it). No, it doesn't do that for me, and I don't ever remember being able to get it to do so. I just tried on a couple different systems (all of which have a pc speaker, and 'xset c' doesn't do anying. Does 'xset c' work for you? I haven't tested it here, but do you have the speaker enabled in the kernel? (CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' This sentence no verb.
Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade Gentoo
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Edward Martinez edwardlo...@gmail.com wrote: !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-lang/php[cli,mysql,xml,session,sockets] has unmet requirements. - dev-lang/php-5.3.8::gentoo USE=berkdb bzip2 cli crypt ctype curl exif fileinfo filter gdbm hash iconv ipv6 json ldap (multilib) mysql nls phar posix readline session simplexml sockets spell ssl tokenizer truetype unicode xml zlib (-adabas) -apache2 -bcmath (-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cgi -cjk -curlwrappers -db2 (-dbmaker) -debug -doc -embed (-empress) (-empress-bcs) -enchant (-esoob) -firebird -flatfile -fpm (-frontbase) -ftp -gd -gd-external -gmp -imap -inifile -interbase -intl -iodbc -kerberos -kolab -ldap-sasl -libedit -mhash -mssql -mysqli -mysqlnd -oci8 -oci8-instant-client -odbc -pcntl -pdo -pic -postgres -qdbm -recode -sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem -snmp -soap (-solid) -sqlite -sqlite3 -suhosin (-sybase-ct) -sysvipc -threads -tidy -wddx -xmlreader -xmlrpc -xmlwriter -xpm -xsl -zip The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: truetype? ( any-of ( gd gd-external ) ) exif? ( any-of ( gd gd-external ) ) It's telling you that you need to enable gd or gd-external USE flag for php because it is required by the truetype and exif USE flags.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
Am Donnerstag 01 September 2011, 00:57:37 schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2011-08-31, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: I checked, and I do have the old standard PC-speaker connected to the motherboard, and xset c still does nothing. not playing a custom sound file. Which is what the OP asked for. Hey, it wasn't my idea. Talk to Volker for more details about the xset-as-typewriter-sound idea. :) I'm still waiting for him to defend his snide remarks about how we were all stupid for doing things other than using xset... I didn't reply to the OP. I only replied about xset (non-)functionality, where it sounds like we're in agreement that it just sounds the system bell (or whatever you call it). No, it doesn't do that for me, and I don't ever remember being able to get it to do so. I just tried on a couple different systems (all of which have a pc speaker, and 'xset c' doesn't do anying. Does 'xset c' work for you? if xset does not work for you and you are using KDE: there is an option in system-settings. I am sure there is one for gnome in their config tool too. You guys are still re-inventing wheels. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
On Thursday 01 Sep 2011 15:22:29 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2011, 00:57:37 schrieb Grant Edwards: I didn't reply to the OP. I only replied about xset (non-)functionality, where it sounds like we're in agreement that it just sounds the system bell (or whatever you call it). No, it doesn't do that for me, and I don't ever remember being able to get it to do so. I just tried on a couple different systems (all of which have a pc speaker, and 'xset c' doesn't do anying. Does 'xset c' work for you? I haven't tested it here, but do you have the speaker enabled in the kernel? (CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR) I have set: $ cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep PCSPKR CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM=y CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR=y and can confirm that it doesn't click of beep, despite me setting it to do so: $ xset -q | grep key auto repeat: onkey click percent: 80LED mask: auto repeating keys: 00ffdbbf $ xset -q | grep bell bell percent: 50bell pitch: 400bell duration: 100 Another box of mine used to beep (I like having the bell turned on to remind me that I am typing rubbish ;) but some months ago it stopped doing so. I never bothered looking into it and assumed that some change in Xorg caused this. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
On 2011-09-01, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: You guys are still re-inventing wheels. You keep saying that, and we keep asking what the simple solution is. Why won't you answer? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'd like MY data-base at JULIENNED and stir-fried! gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:53 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, 30. August 2011, 13:56:44 schrieb Alex Schuster: Alan McKinnon writes: On Tue 23 August 2011 18:17:17 Stroller did opine thusly: On 23 August 2011, at 07:27, Joost Roeleveld wrote: [...] And I don't really see the point of D-BUS on a server either. All the services that need to talk to each other already have working communication paths. Reading that blog entry I found discouraging the idea that dbus might be required on my servers in the future, if systemd becomes popular with distros. What's your objection to dbus? It gives you a standard message bus, is small, light, consumes minimal resources and provides a nice standard way to do IPC. Probably easier than reinventing the wheel with named pipes and other bits over and over. Except for me. dbus-daemon often uses 10-20% of my CPU according to top. Mine idles most of the time, no CPU is used. My computer is running for ~6h now, dbus-daemon used less than 1.5s CPU time. And this morning, it was using about 750M of memory. Which is less than kwin's and Kontact's usage, but still. Strange. Mine uses only ~20MB. But I think the problem is on my side, I run KDE4 with only 8G of memory, no wonder I need 1.7G of swap right now. /rant I have only 4GB of memory, run kde4, swap is not used at all most of the time. There are still ~512MB free with ~1,3GB cached currently. I do have programs running :) firefox with some tabs, kdevelop with a project (~100.000 LOC), kmail, LibreOffice and 3 konsoles, each with some tabs open. I know, I am of no help at all, but I really wonder, why your numbers differ so significantly from mine. He probably has the same problem as I - something badly wrong in the roll-your-own config. I had a 4G Dell laptop where KDE would start and instantly consume at least 1.5G just for it's various bits. Akonadi, Nepomuk, Virtuoso were the usual culprits. Oddly, dbus would often rise to 700M (!). And forget about actually emerging something - the first sniff that gcc was running and the machine would thrash like mad and 4G swap would fill up in no time at all. Less sweap wasn't an option - the battery is dud so I needed hibernate. Sadly (or not, depending on your viewpoint), that machine died on Monday morning - suspect graphics card. I can't complain - it ran flat out 24/7/365 and I treated it like one of the servers that I could carry around. So I can't even troubleshoot what I configured how to make performance behave like it did. Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3 months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course. Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and everything behaves just like it should. Even gasp flash. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] switch to iproute2 and remove net-tools?
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:16:05 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 01.09.2011 15:47, schrieb Doug Hunley: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:32, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Why do you want to unmerge net-tools, anyway? 'equery depends' shows that nothing needs it, and why keep an entire package around when I have another package installed that does what the first package is supposed to do? ;) `emerge -pv --depclean sys-apps/net-tools` is more reliable than equery for finding dependencies. It will tell you that net-tools is part of @system. It is generally discouraged for ebuild-developers to add dependencies to stuff that belongs to @system. Therefore equery does not help you find all dependencies. If you are so eager to remove net-tools, you can try to replace all binaries with symlinks to /bin/busybox. It should contain minimal implementations for most binaries like hostname. Note that this can seriously break your system if the busybox implementation is insufficient. *Especially* don't use BusyBox tar. Been there, done that. -- Alan McKinnnon Systems Engineer^W Technician Internet Solutions 011 575 7585 alan.mckin...@is.co.za
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:53 +0200 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, 30. August 2011, 13:56:44 schrieb Alex Schuster: Alan McKinnon writes: On Tue 23 August 2011 18:17:17 Stroller did opine thusly: On 23 August 2011, at 07:27, Joost Roeleveld wrote: [...] And I don't really see the point of D-BUS on a server either. All the services that need to talk to each other already have working communication paths. Reading that blog entry I found discouraging the idea that dbus might be required on my servers in the future, if systemd becomes popular with distros. What's your objection to dbus? It gives you a standard message bus, is small, light, consumes minimal resources and provides a nice standard way to do IPC. Probably easier than reinventing the wheel with named pipes and other bits over and over. Except for me. dbus-daemon often uses 10-20% of my CPU according to top. Mine idles most of the time, no CPU is used. My computer is running for ~6h now, dbus-daemon used less than 1.5s CPU time. And this morning, it was using about 750M of memory. Which is less than kwin's and Kontact's usage, but still. Strange. Mine uses only ~20MB. But I think the problem is on my side, I run KDE4 with only 8G of memory, no wonder I need 1.7G of swap right now. /rant I have only 4GB of memory, run kde4, swap is not used at all most of the time. There are still ~512MB free with ~1,3GB cached currently. I do have programs running :) firefox with some tabs, kdevelop with a project (~100.000 LOC), kmail, LibreOffice and 3 konsoles, each with some tabs open. I know, I am of no help at all, but I really wonder, why your numbers differ so significantly from mine. He probably has the same problem as I - something badly wrong in the roll-your-own config. I had a 4G Dell laptop where KDE would start and instantly consume at least 1.5G just for it's various bits. Akonadi, Nepomuk, Virtuoso were the usual culprits. Oddly, dbus would often rise to 700M (!). And forget about actually emerging something - the first sniff that gcc was running and the machine would thrash like mad and 4G swap would fill up in no time at all. Less sweap wasn't an option - the battery is dud so I needed hibernate. Sadly (or not, depending on your viewpoint), that machine died on Monday morning - suspect graphics card. I can't complain - it ran flat out 24/7/365 and I treated it like one of the servers that I could carry around. So I can't even troubleshoot what I configured how to make performance behave like it did. Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3 months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course. Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and everything behaves just like it should. Even gasp flash. That saddens me a little. Of all the friends and coworkers I have, I'm the only one left using Gentoo. All of them switched to Fedora, or Ubuntu, or OpenSuSE. My three years old laptop runs up-to-date Gentoo with systemd, plus the GNOME overlay so I can use GNOME 3. Absolutely everything works with the laptop: the Wi-Fi with NetworkManager, the sound with PulseAudio, suspend/resume, all the Fn keys, wathever. Even the ridiculous touchstrip fingerprint sensor, though I don't really use it. Even more: every damn GUI program does what it should, so even though I'm able to configure and use everything with the command line, I don't have to, because I can use the pretty graphic programs... if at all, 'cause nowadays everything usually just works. And the same it's true for all my other machines. But I'm also aware that all of this is possible because I have the knowledge (and the patience) to detect and fix any problem that I may encounter when updating my machine. I don't need a robust QA from my distribution, but I'm the exception. And this is the kind of QA problems that make people to replace Gentoo for Ubuntu, or Fedora, or whatever. I whish I knew how to solve this so everybody could use Gentoo, but I don't. I don't think I will ever use any other distro (although I've toyed with the idea of trying exherbo), but I cannot in good conscience recommend it to normal users, unless I'm willing to be their tech support forever. I love Gentoo, been using it since 2004, but I'm the first one to admit it's not for everyone. And that saddens me a little. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:32:11 -0400 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3 months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course. Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and everything behaves just like it should. Even gasp flash. That saddens me a little. Of all the friends and coworkers I have, I'm the only one left using Gentoo. All of them switched to Fedora, or Ubuntu, or OpenSuSE. I completely understand how you feel. But, I'm enjoying this break from Gentoo. Note I said break, not leave behind. It will take 3 to 6 weeks for me to make up my mind what monster Dell I want next, assault Purchasing to make them approve it then have it built in Ireland and shipped to ZA. That's about enough time I think to run into the Ubuntu you will do it our way with the deps we want you to have philosophy enough times to drive me back to gentoo. But the next machine will not have KDE on it - all this RAM nonsense started by trying to get Akonadi to work, for very loose definitions of work, such as show me my mail sometime today e17 beckons. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] can't upgrade Gentoo
On 09/01/11 08:35, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Edward Martinezedwardlo...@gmail.com wrote: !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-lang/php[cli,mysql,xml,session,sockets] has unmet requirements. - dev-lang/php-5.3.8::gentoo USE=berkdb bzip2 cli crypt ctype curl exif fileinfo filter gdbm hash iconv ipv6 json ldap (multilib) mysql nls phar posix readline sessionsimplexml sockets spell ssl tokenizer truetype unicode xml zlib (-adabas) -apache2 -bcmath (-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cgi -cjk -curlwrappers -db2 (-dbmaker) -debug -doc -embed (-empress) (-empress-bcs) -enchant (-esoob) -firebird -flatfile -fpm (-frontbase) -ftp -gd -gd-external -gmp -imap -inifile -interbase -intl -iodbc -kerberos -kolab -ldap-sasl -libedit -mhash -mssql -mysqli -mysqlnd -oci8 -oci8-instant-client -odbc -pcntl -pdo -pic -postgres -qdbm -recode -sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem -snmp -soap (-solid) -sqlite -sqlite3 -suhosin (-sybase-ct) -sysvipc -threads -tidy -wddx -xmlreader -xmlrpc -xmlwriter -xpm -xsl -zip The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: truetype? ( any-of ( gd gd-external ) ) exif? ( any-of ( gd gd-external ) ) It's telling you that you need to enable gd or gd-external USE flag for php because it is required by the truetype and exif USE flags. Hi, Thank You! That did the job. I'll make a note of that message , so i will know what it means, if it comes up again. Regards, Edward
Re: [gentoo-user] switch to iproute2 and remove net-tools?
Well, tar is not a part of net-tools, so Doug shouldn't have any problems there ;) Rgds, On 2011-09-02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:16:05 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 01.09.2011 15:47, schrieb Doug Hunley: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:32, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Why do you want to unmerge net-tools, anyway? 'equery depends' shows that nothing needs it, and why keep an entire package around when I have another package installed that does what the first package is supposed to do? ;) `emerge -pv --depclean sys-apps/net-tools` is more reliable than equery for finding dependencies. It will tell you that net-tools is part of @system. It is generally discouraged for ebuild-developers to add dependencies to stuff that belongs to @system. Therefore equery does not help you find all dependencies. If you are so eager to remove net-tools, you can try to replace all binaries with symlinks to /bin/busybox. It should contain minimal implementations for most binaries like hostname. Note that this can seriously break your system if the busybox implementation is insufficient. *Especially* don't use BusyBox tar. Been there, done that. -- Alan McKinnnon Systems Engineer^W Technician Internet Solutions 011 575 7585 alan.mckin...@is.co.za -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
[gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...
I still haven't decided what to get for my system to replace the NIC with, but the card I have should be working with my existing 802.11g network already; however, it doesn't - I have had to connect my laptop via Ethernet cable to my wireless bridge to get network access. /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 starts, but goes immediately inactive. From what I can find on-line, this seems to have been something common after moving to Base Layout 2/OpenRC; however, I couldn't find anything that specified what the actual solution was - I think most ended up doing a complete reinstall of their wicd/wpa-supplicant software - either way details were lacking. I've successfully had wpa-supplicant working in the past, and as a result of all of this I've tried to get it up through the other method too (iwconfig?), but no success. (I think I have managed to get it to scan some, but not sufficiently and certainly no connections.) Anyone see this issue and know what the solution is? I'd like to at least get my 802.11g access back - the current setup is a bit of a pain and very limiting. Thanks! Ben
