Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 20 Oct 2013 15:31:12 jo...@antarean.org wrote: I would suggest trying it by usong the older metadata format. Check the man pages, but I thinl it would be --metadata=0.90 (or similar) during creation. That might put the metadata at the end, rather

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Edward M
On 10/20/2013 9:27 PM, Dale wrote: I did some googling and found out that I have to add iommu=pt to the kernel command line. When I do that, it works fine. In the UEFI/BIOS menus; does it have a |IOMMU Controller option and if it does, try enabling it and boot linux normally. |

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 05:34, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but from top of my head: We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code. As in, that's nothing to

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 08:31, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but from top of my head: We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts

[gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/10/13, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ha! Yes, this made a difference, thanks! With metadata 0.90 I can see the same partitions I set up on /dev/md0, also on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Sorry to come back late in this thread. As other contributors pointed out correctly, the problem was RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 21/10/13, J. Roeleveld wrote: Other option: 1 install to single disk 2 using sysresccd create a degraded raid1 using the 2nd drive 3 copy the partitions and date from drive 1 to the degraded raid device What is copy the date? A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Edward M wrote: On 10/20/2013 9:27 PM, Dale wrote: I did some googling and found out that I have to add iommu=pt to the kernel command line. When I do that, it works fine. In the UEFI/BIOS menus; does it have a |IOMMU Controller option and if it does, try enabling it and boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Dale wrote: Update. I did some googling and found out that I have to add iommu=pt to the kernel command line. When I do that, it works fine. It seems that this mobo doesn't play well with 64 bit Linux. Some even

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Tablets

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:49:44 +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: use someone a tablet with Gentoo or alternatives? I want me buy a tablets, but im not sure i can familiar use Android. Has someone a tablet with gentoo or other Distri running? The Nexus 7 can certainly be used with other distros. I

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he just merges commits from his trusted lieutenants in charge of various subsystems. The notion of Linus as being at the helm is mostly just a convenient fiction

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he just merges commits from his trusted lieutenants in charge of various

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted to the kernel, That isn't what I meant at all... What he *does* have the power to do, though, is if someone was able to sneak in something outrageously bad

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted to the kernel, That isn't what I meant at all... What he *does* have the

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:48 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for rip it out at its roots he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in his tree. Which I believe is a much bigger deal than you seem to think. But that's only

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Oct 21, 2013 7:01 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-10-21 6:48 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for rip it out at its roots he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in his tree. Which I

[gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Adam Carter
I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin #named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash #postfix:x:207:207:added by portage for postfix:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin postfix:x:207:207:added

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin #named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash #postfix:x:207:207:added by portage for

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 7:10 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Read the management style doc. Seriously, it describes the kernel's outlook on mistakes. My main point wasn't about 'mistakes' and you know it, so please stop being so obtuse. Ostracization and talk of severing limbs like

[gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand not so really. What Cflags i should use, at moment i use CFLAGS=-O2 -march=atom -mtune=atom -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread thegeezer
On 10/21/2013 03:09 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand not so really. What Cflags i should use, at moment i use CFLAGS=-O2 -march=atom

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:54:05PM -0500, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 21/10/13 11:09, Dale wrote: I rebooted and the newest sysrescue still wouldn't boot up. It says it can't find /sysrcd.dat which I think is caused because it can't use the USB port that the sysrescue stick

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:33:37 +0100 thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/CFLAGS use native - it does the working out for you if GCC is new CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe Ok thank you. Hope then better. Now compile orgy so 2 days and i have finished.

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:09:11PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand not so really. Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
I have four core: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz CFLAGS=-march=core2 -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j5 -- Joseph On 10/21/13 16:09, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 09:20:42AM -0600, Joseph wrote: I have four core: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz Wikipedia says otherwise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Dual-core_Nettop_processors -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from,

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook ran OK with 1 GB, but was very limited, especially once Firefox was loaded. 2 GB should be the minimum if you use a big desktop. No its only 1 GB. I

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook ran OK with 1 GB, but was very limited, especially once Firefox was loaded. 2 GB

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread housegregory299
В письме от 21 октября 2013 18:40:27 пользователь Frank Steinmetzger написал: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook

[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
When I run: emerge --depclean entire portage tree scrolling by what is causing it? It should be something like this: emerge --depclean -p * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always * be kept. They can be

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Oct 21, 2013 6:59 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: When I run: emerge --depclean entire portage tree scrolling by what is causing it? It should be something like this: emerge --depclean -p * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious * mistakes. Packages that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:54:05PM -0500, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 21/10/13 11:09, Dale wrote: I rebooted and the newest sysrescue still wouldn't boot up. It says it can't find /sysrcd.dat which I think is caused because it can't use the USB port

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
On 10/21/13 19:05, Randolph Maaßen wrote: Have you set --verbose (-v) in make.conf as emerge default opts? References 1. mailto:syscon...@gmail.com Yes, that was it. Thanks :-/ -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/21/2013 02:13 AM, Dale wrote: Tyan is a mobo I have heard good things about. I think someone gave me a puter to repair once that had a ASUS mobo. It seemed to be a nice mobo. Pity the guys house caught fire from the central heat tho. I'm open to ideas here. Basically, I want to

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/21/2013 04:39 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin #named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 20.10.2013 13:18, schrieb Daniel Campbell: On 10/20/2013 06:02 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 20.10.2013 12:52, schrieb Daniel Campbell: On 10/20/2013 04:24 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 20.10.2013 08:34, schrieb Daniel Campbell: hm, Redhat is one of the companies investing the

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 21.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he just merges commits from his trusted lieutenants in charge of various subsystems. The notion of Linus as being at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:13 AM, Dale wrote: Tyan is a mobo I have heard good things about. I think someone gave me a puter to repair once that had a ASUS mobo. It seemed to be a nice mobo. Pity the guys house caught fire from the central heat tho. I'm open to ideas here.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread Mick
On Monday 21 Oct 2013 09:55:42 J. Roeleveld wrote: Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: I believe it would only be possible by installing the system on the degraded RAID, which will likely mean coming back to the original swap problem. That is why I suggested installing on a normal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Edward M
On 10/21/2013 2:13 AM, Dale wrote: While I like Gigabyte as a brand, if this is going to be something that reduces the value of my purchase, I want to get something else. Appears IOMMU is becoming an industry standard and is also being used by other motherboard makers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Edward M wrote: On 10/21/2013 2:13 AM, Dale wrote: While I like Gigabyte as a brand, if this is going to be something that reduces the value of my purchase, I want to get something else. Appears IOMMU is becoming an industry standard and is also being used by other motherboard makers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:45:40 -0500, Dale wrote: From testing, it turned out to be a BIOS setting and some things that isn't supported in 64 bit Linux. Basically, you have to hack your way into getting something to work. If I could pass the right option to the kernel on sysrescue then it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:45:40 -0500, Dale wrote: From testing, it turned out to be a BIOS setting and some things that isn't supported in 64 bit Linux. Basically, you have to hack your way into getting something to work. If I could pass the right option to the kernel on

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Alecks Gates
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand not so really. What Cflags i should use, at moment i use

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Adam Carter
If you havent already, I would first verify that its actually CPU bound, before changing CFLAGs and recompiling everything. So take a look at top, vmstat, mpstat etc when you're noticing slowness. If it is truely CPU bound and you're going to recompile everything, you could consider upgrading to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console won't un-blank

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 08:02:50PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:40:32PM +0200, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:02:13 -0400, Michael J. Barillier wrote: If I leave my laptop unattended (at a console, not X) and the screen blanks, pressing

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:45:35AM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: If you havent already, I would first verify that its actually CPU bound, before changing CFLAGs and recompiling everything. So take a look at top, vmstat, mpstat etc when you're noticing slowness. If it is truely CPU bound and you're

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Mick
On Monday 21 Oct 2013 20:26:20 Daniel Frey wrote: On 10/21/2013 04:39 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin