Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017, 11:13:30 CET schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > Hello, Wols > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:55:45 +, Wols Lists wrote: [...] > > Lennart doesn't want a system where a small failure in one place > > cascades and brings down a load of stuff elsewhere. > > Neither do I, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:11:23 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 December 2017 10:34:27 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:24:48 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > I more and more get the feeling that linux is standardising on the > > > > Gnome desktop, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/12/2017 01:23, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11 2017, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >>> >>> Just my two cents. I will not answer any reply to my little contribution to >>> this thread; >> >> Good. I can't

[gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread pat
Hi, Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to configure mouse? I'm using fluxbox and don't want to install gnome or kde. Thanks Pat Freehosting PIPNI - http://www.pipni.cz/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Some historical correctnesses about Canek: > > - He has been here for years > - He has contributed here for years > - He supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about > systemd to it's users on this list than any other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 12:04:03 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Some historical correctnesses about Canek: > > > > - He has been here for years > > - He has contributed here for years > > - He supports systemd and has offered more

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017, 13:36:19 CET schrieb Kent Fredric: > as a sort > of bodge to compensate for the fact portage has no working "provides" > feature I'd just like to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, portage actually switched *from* a "provides" model *to* the virtual

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 12:04:03 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick: >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Some historical correctnesses about Canek: >>> >>> - He has been here for years >>> - He has contributed here for years >>> - He supports systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
I use autofs and very happy. I do not need udisks at all, while it is mandatory dependency of solid. I remember old discussion in which kde developer did not understand the concept of optional for this slot.

Re: [gentoo-user] Profile 17.0 change and app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.3-r4

2017-12-13 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 02 Dec 2017, Mike Gilbert wrote: >On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Mick wrote: >> app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.3-r4 also fails to install: [..] >> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -march=native -O2 -pipe -std=c++11 -pthread -Wl,-O1 >> -Wl,--as-needed -o toc2cddb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 12:34:03 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: > > I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal > > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. What process was that? The one where distro maintainers decide what to include in *their*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/12/17 00:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> and Windows has this infuriating habit of >> > ignoring my command to shutdown, instead suspending to disk. As my >> > Windows partitions automount in linux, this causes the mount to fail, >> > and systemd won't boot the system. So I spend/waste half an

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 12:52, Walter Dnes wrote: > My big hate is the ever-growing dependancy list of gtk. Which is one of the big reasons why I masked gtk3. Sadly I don't know how much longer I can keep that, as at least one favorite program of mine now requires it. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are these files restricted?

2017-12-13 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/10/2017 08:10 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > $ for f in /etc/at/at.deny /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron > /etc/default/useradd ; do > ls -l $f ; qfile $f ; > done > -rw-r- 1 root at 166 Dec 10 16:57 /etc/at/at.deny > sys-process/at (/etc/at/at.deny) > -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 392 Nov 4 21:04

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:47:05 -0600, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to > >> configure mouse? I'm using fluxbox and don't want to install gnome or > >> kde. > > > > You didn't say what parameters you want to configure. For speed, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-12-14 at 00:45, Simon Thelen wrote: > On 17-12-13 at 15:47, R0b0t1 wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:10 AM, wabe wrote: > > > p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to > > >> configure

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-12-13 at 15:47, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:10 AM, wabe wrote: > > p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to > >> configure mouse? I'm using fluxbox and don't want to install gnome or >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread wabe
p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to > configure mouse? I'm using fluxbox and don't want to install gnome or > kde. You didn't say what parameters you want to configure. For speed, acceleration and threshold you can use xset.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:34:27AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > I have three gnome packages installed on this KDE box. One is the > tiny package that started this thread, and is GNOME only in name, > the other two are dependencies of XFCE, which I also have installed. > > I see no GNOME

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Kai Peter
On 2017-12-13 20:37, Alan Mackenzie wrote: What have I done to deserve this abusive style of repartee? I have never You did post your opinion which doesn't fit with others. I use Gentoo, partly because here I have a deal of choice. Isn't it better to say you have partly a choice? ;-) --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:06:29 AM CET Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 13/12/2017 01:23, allan gottlieb wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11 2017, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>> Just my two cents. I will not answer any reply

[gentoo-user] xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, on my current machine xcdroast fails to recognize an inserted CD in the CD-reader. I do not often burn CDs and had switched to cdw which works fine. Nevertheless, xcdroast was once my favorite and I am curious. :) Starting xcdroast with -d 10 shows the problem: DGB1: spawning:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:01:38 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > Can't you change this with fstab settings. I see a similar behaviour > > when trying t mount NFS shares that aren't there, but it gives up > > trying after 90s and gets on with booting the computer. > > I've tried ... > > Systemd and

Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/13/2017 07:36:54 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, on my current machine xcdroast fails to recognize an inserted CD in the CD-reader. I do not often burn CDs and had switched to cdw which works fine. Nevertheless, xcdroast was once my favorite and I am curious. :) I have

[gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Helmut Jarausch: >On 12/13/2017 07:36:54 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >I have app-cdr/cdrtools 3.02_alpha07-r1 installed here. At the moment 3.02_alpha06, but I've tested the unstable version of cdrtools also. >Did you go to 'Setup' / 'Device-Scan' / 'Rescan devices' > >Is your device listed there?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Marc. On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:34:03 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017, 11:13:30 CET schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:55:45 +, Wols Lists wrote: [ ] > > > Granted he's not necessarily the most politic of people, and has ruffled >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] application to configure mouse

2017-12-13 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:10 AM, wabe wrote: > p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sorry for this offtopic, but is there a UI standalone application to >> configure mouse? I'm using fluxbox and don't want to install gnome or >> kde. > > You didn't say what parameters you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/12/17 15:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:01:38 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> Can't you change this with fstab settings. I see a similar behaviour >>> when trying t mount NFS shares that aren't there, but it gives up >>> trying after 90s and gets on with booting the