Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 03:25 PM, David Haller wrote: > > ISTR, .localdomain is the new .local... > > BTW: I hate it how .local got ursurped by zeroconf/mDNS. > You were never allowed to use .local in the first place =P I learned some interesting things from RFC 8244, the first being that they have an

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:59:10 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I have used .localdomain for years without issue. VLANS > > (wifi.localdomain, lan.localdomain etc.) are great if you have the > > hardware to do it. > > > > Using non-official TLD internally shouldn't cause any problems (unless >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/18/2017 04:58 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I have used .localdomain for years without issue. VLANS > (wifi.localdomain, lan.localdomain etc.) are great if you have the > hardware to do it. > > Using non-official TLD internally shouldn't cause any problems (unless > someone is "stupid").

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On 12/19/2017 10:15:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Having said that, everything built with gcc-7.2.0 after the profile switch so I now have only one gcc installed for the first time in years. In addition. I keep gcc-6.4.0 since it can generate PIE-enabled executables AND it it the last

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 19/12/17 13:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > There are no safe, free names to use for an internal network. On the one > hand, RFC 8244 makes a decent argument that this is a good thing, > because it guarantees that every hostname is globally unique (so if I > copy/paste a URL to you, it goes the

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tuesday, 19 December 2017 16:39:50 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 19/12/17 13:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > There are no safe, free names to use for an internal network. On the one > > hand, RFC 8244 makes a decent argument that this is a good thing, > > because it guarantees that every hostname

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/18/2017 03:25 PM, David Haller wrote: >> >> ISTR, .localdomain is the new .local... >> >> BTW: I hate it how .local got ursurped by zeroconf/mDNS. >> > > You were never allowed to use .local in the first place =P >

[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of TLD for internal network

On 2017-12-18 08:56, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > You should probably buy a TLD. (Understood that you mean "buy a domain".) I'd like to remind everyone (again?) of FreeDNS (aka afraid.org). You can get a 3rd level name free, and then subdivide that as you like. They won't _delegate_ to you

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:51:27 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > >> When i depclean i use -av --depclean --exclude gcc --exclude >> gentoo-sources, since i like keep 2 gcc's around and I look after >> sources manually. > You can prevent depclean from removing gcc and kernel like

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On Tue 19 Dec 2017 at 16:45:15 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > In addition. I keep gcc-6.4.0 since it can generate PIE-enabled > executables AND it it the last compiler with 'gcj'. > > I don't understand why 'pdftk' and packages depending on that have been > masked. > > They build and run

[gentoo-user] depclean confusion

Finishing off an install, and running "emerge --depclean" = >>> Assigning files to packages... * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:45:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > > You can prevent depclean from removing gcc and kernel like this > > > > % cat /etc/portage/sets.conf > > [kernels] > > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet > > world-candidate = False > > files = /usr/src > > > > [gcc] > > class =

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/19/2017 12:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> There are; .local and .localhost are reserved TLDs. > > > .local is reserved for Apple's multicast DNS stuff, which requires names > to be resolved via a nonstandard method: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > * [OT]What's the difference between intervention and > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > oops! Correct - than the other. It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On 12/19/2017 12:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > There are; .local and .localhost are reserved TLDs. .local is reserved for Apple's multicast DNS stuff, which requires names to be resolved via a nonstandard method: Any DNS query for a name ending with ".local." MUST be sent to the mDNS IPv4

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:51:27 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > > > When i depclean i use -av --depclean --exclude gcc --exclude > > gentoo-sources, since i like keep 2 gcc's around and I look after > > sources manually. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:33:08 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys > > intervene, the baddies interfere. It's like the difference between a > > terrorist and a freedom fighter. > > We could mince words all day. No we couldn't,

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Monday, 18 December 2017 10:57:31 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:45:30 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Coincidentally, I'd recently also ended my subscription to the magazine. > > > :-( Well, after many years of devoted service, they seem to have lost their way.

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 01:09:30 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:33:08 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > It's not about political correctness but perspective. The good guys > > > intervene, the baddies interfere. It's like the difference between a > > > terrorist and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > * [OT]What's the difference between intervention and > > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > > oops! Correct -

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean confusion

On 19/12/17 23:18, Walter Dnes wrote: Finishing off an install, and running "emerge --depclean" = Assigning files to packages... * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more * packages will not

Re: [gentoo-user] Choice of TLD for internal network

On Tuesday, 19 December 2017 20:31:42 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:00:33 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > * [OT] What's the difference between intervention and > > interference? None that I can see. One is just more Politically Crass - > > oops! Correct - than the other.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean confusion

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:43:35PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote > Unmerge it anyway and then rebuild iproute2. It seems like an automagic > dep. It should not be using db when the berkdb USE flag is not set. > Since it does, it's a bug. > > However, rebuilding it after unmerging db should

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:51:27 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > When i depclean i use -av --depclean --exclude gcc --exclude > gentoo-sources, since i like keep 2 gcc's around and I look after > sources manually. You can prevent depclean from removing gcc and kernel like this % cat

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 04:06:52 +0100, David Haller wrote: > # wc -l /var/lib/portage/world > 1140 /var/lib/portage/world > > Am I doing something wrong? Looking it over, it looks right though. It sounds a lot, but only you know what you need. For comparison I have 217 packages in world plus about