Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 15:18 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > So basically, dont-stop would update everything it can. I half-jokingly called this "emerge --i-dont-care" in 2012: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.gentoo.user/c/wE2GnF7RlnY There are (still) a lot of people who want it. Last night I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/20/22 10:24 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Hi, I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of my workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to mount the disk in the caddy. Clearance is nil, so the screws must be countersunk so they aren't

[gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, some time back it was pointed out on this list to only use "--changed- use" rather than "--newuse". So I've meanwhile removed this option (and also a few others) from my update script which I had created early after installing Gentoo. It now basically runs $ sudo emerge --ask

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > some time back it was pointed out on this list to only use "--changed- > use" rather than "--newuse". So I've meanwhile removed this option (and > also a few others) from my update script which I had created early after > installing Gentoo. It now

[gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to ask. I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of my workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to mount the disk in the caddy. Clearance is nil, so the screws must be

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 20 February 2022 17:24:44 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to ask. > > I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of > my workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/02/2022 14:40, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Or does it just cause plenty of package rebuilds without any real effect? Likewise, what about "--deep"? Should I keep it? Changed deps, I don't particularly know about. But --deep - that's to do with a dependency changing USE flags, and it will

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/02/2022 14:54, Arve Barsnes wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 15:40, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: But if I understand the "emerge" manual page correctly, "--changed-deps" causes a rebuild of a package, if one of its dependencies has been re- build, even though the package does not require the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:25 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to ask. > > I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of my > workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to mount the

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 15:40, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > But if I understand the "emerge" manual page correctly, "--changed-deps" > causes a rebuild of a package, if one of its dependencies has been re- > build, even though the package does not require the newer version of the > dependency. So

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 20/02/2022 14:54, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 15:40, Dr Rainer >> Woitok  wrote: >>> But if I understand the "emerge" manual page correctly, >>> "--changed-deps" >>> causes a rebuild of a package,  if one of its  dependencies has been >>> re- >>> build,

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 11:49:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > So basically, dont-stop would update everything it can. > > I half-jokingly called this "emerge --i-dont-care" in 2012: > > https://groups.google.com/g/linux.gentoo.user/c/wE2GnF7RlnY > > There are (still) a lot of people who

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Jack
On 2022.02.20 16:05, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to ask. > > I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of my > workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to mount

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2022.02.20 16:05, Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > Hello list, >> > >> > This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to >> ask. >> > >> > I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the >> back of my >> > workstation, and I'm having

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread j...@clusters.gr
Pardon me, but how would using --nodeps be a wise choice to rebuild your @world? > 21/2/22 v 0:06, Michael Orlitzky : > > On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 19:51 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> Shouldn't --keep-going have kicked in there and restarted the update? >> > > You'd think, but

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:05:09 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'll add this just to show how confusing this is.  My old DVD burner and > new Blu-ray burner uses a different screw than the hard drives.  Luckily > my case has slots for hard drives but my external enclosures require > screws which is how I know

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Miles Malone
The standard is #6-32 UNC for 3.5" harddrives, and most case-related stuff including motherboard standoffs. It's M3 standard for 2.5" harddrives, 5.25" optical drives, etc, etc. The lengths arent standard in general, though I imagine there's a fairly standard harddrive length. So you presumably

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Wol
On 20/02/2022 22:05, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You'd think, but --keep-going tries to recompute dependencies and if the original emerge crashes in an inconsistent state, that often seems to push the calculation over the edge, preventing portage from figuring out how to proceed. That's where I

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Wol
On 20/02/2022 19:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 11:49:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: So basically, dont-stop would update everything it can. I half-jokingly called this "emerge --i-dont-care" in 2012: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.gentoo.user/c/wE2GnF7RlnY There are

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] mounting screws

2022-02-20 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > This has nothing to do with Gentoo, but I don't know where else to ask. > > I have a couple of vertically mounted easy-swap disk caddies in the back of > my > workstation, and I'm having trouble finding screws to mount the disk in the > caddy. Clearance

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 19:51 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Shouldn't --keep-going have kicked in there and restarted the update? > You'd think, but --keep-going tries to recompute dependencies and if the original emerge crashes in an inconsistent state, that often seems to push the calculation

Re: [gentoo-user] Options for "emerge"

2022-02-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 00:12 +0200, j...@clusters.gr wrote: > Pardon me, but how would using --nodeps be a wise choice to rebuild > your @world? Straightaway, it isn't. But if you've already computed the list of packages to be emerged, and the order in which to emerge them, then emerging those