date:20050412

Antoine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 I am looking for a way to intercept a stream before it gets to my
 browser, so I can see everything that is being sent to me, and that I
 send back. Does anyone know know of a tool that will do this for me?

ethereal? squid proxy?

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

2005-04-12 Thread Zander Z365

Thanks to all of you for helping me.  I can successfully emerge X 
KDE using an SMP kernel and hard setting the CPU frequency.  However,
using an SMP kernel 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' nor 'x86info -mhz' seem to
show the new cpu frequency.  I do have two more questions:

1.  Using a Uni-processor kernel it appears I do not have to decrease
my cpu frequency to emerge large products or compiles.  Will I loose a
great deal of performance using it since  I really only have one cpu
(even though It has HT technology)?

2.  Will 'speedfreq' work with SMP kernels?


On Apr 8, 2005 4:20 PM, Zander Z365 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok.  I'm not sure but I think my cpu/fan is working properly.  Here is
 what I did:
 
 First, I checked my kernel and I already had all of those features
 enabled.   So then I thought I would try disabling SMP.  This was
 enabled because I have an P4 processor with HT technology.  After
 booting the uniprocessor kernel I successfully did an emerge without
 my cpu overheating.
 
 Is there a command line tool that I can use that will display my CPU
 temperature and fan speed?  I would like to test it on both kernels.
 
 
 On Apr 8, 2005 1:52 PM, Kiawud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Apr 7, 2005 5:36 PM, Andreas Vinsander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Kiawud wrote:
   
In any case, check and make sure that the 'fan' module (and possilby
the 'thermal' module) is loaded and working.
  
   Maybe it will help to know that those modules can be found in the ACPI
   section of the kernel config. I even consider it better to compile them
   into the kernel instead of as modules...
  
  Yeah, I suppose that might be helpful to know ;) ...
 
  For some reason, I was thinking he was getting temp errors during the
  install of gentoo (like I had).  As such, I had to manually load the
  modules before starting the installation.  (It appears the OP had
  already installed gentoo and was experiencing this during an emerge).
 
  Guess I hadn't had enough caffeine when responding the first time ... my 
  bad.
 
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[gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option


There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
--nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
email from cron contains a lot of control codes.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

 There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
 --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
 dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
 email from cron contains a lot of control codes.

Here's how I accomplish that from cron:

emerge --pretend --update --deep world 1/var/log/update.report

echo Report generated, mailing to root.
echo 
strings /var/log/update.report  /var/log/update.rpt.txt
mail -s Server Portage Update Report root  /var/log/update.rpt.txt
/bin/rm -f /var/log/update.rpt.txt



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[gentoo-user] /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Sullivan

Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
suffered a violent thunderstorm at their headquarters
in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since the
internet became available again my mail server has not
been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
returns the mail to the user who sent it with an error
message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping the
address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I don't
know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
CableOne assigns all addresses (including their DNS
servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
router for DNS information and use that instead of the
two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf?  Here
is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:

domain espersunited.com
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 24.116.0.160
nameserver 24.116.0.202


The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I don't
know if the other two addresses are still valid.  I
know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of finding
what these IP addresses should be, but I don't know
how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this?  Also
any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
greatly appreciated...





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[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Sullivan

I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
users works fine.  As I said, I've had this problem
for a few days and I previously thought that the
messages simply weren't being sent from the message
queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works fine
too...


--- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
 suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
 headquarters
 in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
 without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
 the
 internet became available again my mail server has
 not
 been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
 yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
 server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
 returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
 error
 message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
 the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
 don't
 know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
 theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
 CableOne assigns all addresses (including their DNS
 servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
 router for DNS information and use that instead of
 the
 two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
 Here
 is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:
 
 domain espersunited.com
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
 nameserver 24.116.0.160
 nameserver 24.116.0.202
 
 
 The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
 don't
 know if the other two addresses are still valid.  I
 know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of finding
 what these IP addresses should be, but I don't know
 how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this?  Also
 any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
 greatly appreciated...
 
 
 
 
   
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[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread Botykai Zsolt

Tuesday 12 April 2005 13.49-n, A. Khattri ezt írta:
 There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
 --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
 dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
 email from cron contains a lot of control codes.

until this you can do:
insert '#NOCOLOR=true' into make.conf then call this from cron:

#!/bin/bash
sed 's/^#NOCOLOR=true$/NOCOLOR=true/g' /etc/make.conf  /tmp/make.conf \ 
 cp /tmp/make.conf /etc/make.conf \
 call your desired emerge / \
 sed 's/^NOCOLOR=true$/#NOCOLOR=true/g' /tmp/make.conf  /etc/make.conf

But you're right, IMHO it should be implemented ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine will not run

2005-04-12 Thread Paul

Hi,
I have re-emerged xine and emerged strace.  strace produced the following 
error:-
futex(0x8114054, FUTEX_WAIT, 78, NULLxiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP.
)  = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
+++ killed by SIGABRT +++
 I just don't know what to try next, any ideas??
Paul


On Monday 11 Apr 2005 22:38, Nick Rout wrote:
 I believe this is caused by some library problem - have you recently
 re-compiled one of the libraries that xine depends on?

 If so you may need to re-compile xine.

 You could do more testing by running xine through strace

 emerge strace
 strace xine

 On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:44:05 +0100

 Paul wrote:
  Hi,
  I am having trouble with xine, if I start it from the command line I get
  the following error:-
 
  xiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP.
  Aborted
 
  Any idea how to fix this? please
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Photoshop 7.0 On Wine Users.

2005-04-12 Thread Florian Idelberger

Technically (afaik) it should also work as root, but you shouldn't try
because in this case working in root could really mess up your system.
So why not use andy for your daily work, including photoshop, and su
into root in a console window and run your gui root programs from
there? That would be the most convenient way imho. Maybe this clarifies
my first mail.
Because that's what I meant. ONLY running stuff as the root if the programs really need it.On Apr 12, 2005 1:54 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Charles Pittman wrote: On Apr 12, 2005 6:58 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Florian Idelberger wrote: Normally it should be quite possible to just su into root in a terminal and then start all the gui programs you want from there as root. And if you're concerned about security in som way you really should do so. Just a recommendation. On Apr 12, 2005 9:27 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aractor wrote:Why would you usually only use root? Just use the Andy account and SU if you ever need something under the root account... On Apr 12, 2005 12:05 AM, *Andy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Adobe photoshop using wine on an account called andy. I
know wine
doesn't work well when used in root but I usually only use
root so I was
wondering if there is a way to open my Photoshop 7.0 using root with Wine. --

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

A. Khattri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
 --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
 dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
 email from cron contains a lot of control codes.

I'll bet I wasn't the only one who went running to 'man emerge' and
'emerge --help'.  :)

damn, I coulda sworn at one time there was a --nocolor option.  Am I the
only one who remembers this?

Don't have time to look into this, but here's a good starting point:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # grep -ni color `which emerge`
76:if (not sys.stdout.isatty()) or (portage.settings[NOCOLOR] in 
[yes,true]):
77: nocolor()
559:emergehelp.help(myaction,myopts,havecolor)

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread Jason Stubbs

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:49, A. Khattri wrote:
 There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
 --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
 dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
 email from cron contains a lot of control codes.

Well, that's three people saying it should be implemented but no offerings off 
any code yet... Here's my solution: Add NOCOLOR=true to your crontab.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: intercept browser traffic

2005-04-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:23:58 +0200
Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 btw, it is in https, but seeing as it is my browser I want to spy on,
 isn't that OK?

technically, it is not. You could intercept network traffic at the link
level and even simulate the remote host and its correct address but
you'd need to gain the key and cert of the remote server to make your
solution fully transparent. Usually, you don't have the key.

If it's not intended to be fully transparent, it's no problem to use
any custom certificate for that or even do https only from proxy to
remote server and use plain http to the proxy. Simple network sniffers
won't work here, the traffic would be encrypted.

Seems that ssldump can do the fully transparent decryption of ssl
connections. For the proxy-solution with a new certificate have a look
at the famous dsniff package and read about webmitm. This will be
of interest:

http://monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/faq.html#How%20do%20I%20sniff%20/%20hijack%20HTTPS%20/%20SSH%20connections

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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:09:31 -0700 (PDT)
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My mail
 server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
 returns the mail to the user who sent it with an error
 message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I don't
 know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
 theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 

Does not sound like a DNS issue. I suspect your ISP has activated new
filter rules denying access to outside servers' port 25. Maybe they had
a few spammers on their net... I'd bet they tell you to ask their smtp
for relaying if you ask their support. That shouldn't be too hard to
setup on your mail server. Maybe they insist in using SMTP-Auth for
additional security when a non-local mail address is used as envelope
from.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Ralph Slooten

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

What is the error message you talk about?

Are you running your own mailserver internally, or trying to post to
your ISP's SMTP? It looks like you mean your own, but before passing
judgement could you confirm?

.. but I cannot telnet to their port 25.
If it's your own mailserver, is it trying to post directly to whomever
you send it to, or routing through your ISP's SMTP? ~ Maybe your ISP has
blocked outgoing port 25 (may have been several spammers /
hacked_computers_used_by_spammers reported to you ISP from it's own
network)?

Does 192.168.1.1 run it's own DNS?

Greetings
Ralph


Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
 users works fine.  As I said, I've had this problem
 for a few days and I previously thought that the
 messages simply weren't being sent from the message
 queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works fine
 too...
 
 
 --- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
headquarters
in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
the
internet became available again my mail server has
not
been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
error
message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
the
address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
don't
know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
CableOne assigns all addresses (including their DNS
servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
router for DNS information and use that instead of
the
two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
Here
is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:

domain espersunited.com
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 24.116.0.160
nameserver 24.116.0.202


The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
don't
know if the other two addresses are still valid.  I
know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of finding
what these IP addresses should be, but I don't know
how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this?  Also
any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
greatly appreciated...




  
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RE: [gentoo-user] /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

 Is there a way to query my
 router for DNS information and use that instead of the
 two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf?  Here
 is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:
 
 domain espersunited.com
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
 nameserver 24.116.0.160
 nameserver 24.116.0.202
 
 
 The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.

Your router should have a status page (I know there's one on my netgear and
linksys routers) that shows the ip address and dns servers that were
assigned via dhcp.

But your local router at 192.168.1.1, being in the /etc/resolv.conf file,
must be acting as a caching dns proxy which means that it would internally
have it's own resolv.conf file updated with those values from the ISP.  So
the fact that the bounces are occurring because of dns seems odd.

Are you sure it's actually a dns issue?  My mail server is configured to
connect to my isp to relay outgoing mail (some folks will block email if it
originates from a non-static entity); if, for example, you were configured
to upload to mail.cableone.net (or whatever), it might be there where the
failure is occurring.

What you really need to do is dig into your syslog and see what the error is
that your mailer is reporting; that's going to indicate what you need to do
to resolve it.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:49:18 -0400 (EDT), A. Khattri wrote:

 There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
 --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but
 I dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers -
 the email from cron contains a lot of control codes.

NOCOLOR=true emerge --blah


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:23:57 -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:

 I'll bet I wasn't the only one who went running to 'man emerge' and
 'emerge --help'.  :)

Try man make.conf :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread David Morgan

On 15:14 Tue 12 Apr , Botykai Zsolt wrote:
 Tuesday 12 April 2005 13.49-n, A. Khattri ezt ?rta:
  There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
  --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
  dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
  email from cron contains a lot of control codes.
 
 until this you can do:
 insert '#NOCOLOR=true' into make.conf then call this from cron:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 sed 's/^#NOCOLOR=true$/NOCOLOR=true/g' /etc/make.conf  /tmp/make.conf \ 
  cp /tmp/make.conf /etc/make.conf \
  call your desired emerge / \
  sed 's/^NOCOLOR=true$/#NOCOLOR=true/g' /tmp/make.conf  /etc/make.conf
 

You could do that, or you could learn about sed's -i option, or better
yet, you could just use

NOCOLOR=true emerge foo 

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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw

On Tue, April 12, 2005 9:09 am, Michael Sullivan said:
snip
The interesting thing is that I can ping the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.
/snip

are you sure your ISP doesn't block outgoing port 25 connections?
I would check with them first as that's what it looks like. I know my ISP
(RCN) blocks both outgoing and incoming port 25.

HTH
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[gentoo-user] hostap-driver not emerging correctly on gentoo 2005.0

2005-04-12 Thread Brent Vukmer

I've tried to emerge both the stable and unstable versions of
hostap-driver and in both cases, the hostap_cs.conf file is not
deploying to /etc/pcmcia and the hostap_cs.ko file is not deploying to
/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r5/net/.  Looking in the hostap-driver
ebuild file, I see that if use pcmcia is a precondition for
deploying both those files.

I'm a Gentoo newbie.  What do I need to do to get if use pcmcia to
evaluate to true in that ebuild file?

Here are my kernel settings for PCMCIA support: 

CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA=m
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE=y
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA=y

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Sullivan

The error message is Warning:  Could Not Send Message
For Past Four Hours.  It says that it could not
connect to the server it's trying to deliver the mail
to and that it will keep trying for the next week.  I
am using my own mail server.  I do not wish to use
CableOne's smtp server because I consider them to be
incompetent.  My Linksys router is set to obtain
everything automatically from the cable modem.  


--- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi,
 
 What is the error message you talk about?
 
 Are you running your own mailserver internally, or
 trying to post to
 your ISP's SMTP? It looks like you mean your own,
 but before passing
 judgement could you confirm?
 
 .. but I cannot telnet to their port 25.
 If it's your own mailserver, is it trying to post
 directly to whomever
 you send it to, or routing through your ISP's SMTP?
 ~ Maybe your ISP has
 blocked outgoing port 25 (may have been several
 spammers /
 hacked_computers_used_by_spammers reported to you
 ISP from it's own
 network)?
 
 Does 192.168.1.1 run it's own DNS?
 
 Greetings
 Ralph
 
 
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
  users works fine.  As I said, I've had this
 problem
  for a few days and I previously thought that the
  messages simply weren't being sent from the
 message
  queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works
 fine
  too...
  
  
  --- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
 suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
 headquarters
 in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
 without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
 the
 internet became available again my mail server has
 not
 been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
 yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
 server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
 returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
 error
 message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
 the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
 don't
 know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
 theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
 CableOne assigns all addresses (including their
 DNS
 servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
 router for DNS information and use that instead of
 the
 two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
 Here
 is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:
 
 domain espersunited.com
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
 nameserver 24.116.0.160
 nameserver 24.116.0.202
 
 
 The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
 don't
 know if the other two addresses are still valid. 
 I
 know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of
 finding
 what these IP addresses should be, but I don't
 know
 how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this? 
 Also
 any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
 greatly appreciated...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

Jason Stubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:49, A. Khattri wrote:
  There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
  --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but I
  dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers - the
  email from cron contains a lot of control codes.
 
 Well, that's three people saying it should be implemented but no offerings 
 off 
 any code yet... Here's my solution: Add NOCOLOR=true to your crontab.

ehh, challenge accepted. :)

initial patch attached.  This is against 'emerge' from
sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19.

it adds '--nocolor' with the abbreviation '-r'.  Looks like my tabs
might be off, let me know if they are.

I've never looked at this code before, nor this language.  So I'm sure I
screwed it up...

Cooper.
--- emerge.orig 2005-04-12 14:08:43.295986784 +
+++ emerge  2005-04-12 14:16:16.896029096 +
@@ -151,7 +151,7 @@
 --fetchonly,--fetch-all-uri,
 --getbinpkg,--getbinpkgonly,
 --help, --noconfmem,
---newuse,
+--newuse,--nocolor,
 --nodeps,   --noreplace,
 --nospinner,--oneshot,
 --onlydeps, --pretend,
@@ -180,7 +180,7 @@
 n:--noreplace, N:--newuse,
 o:--onlydeps,  O:--nodeps,
 p:--pretend,   P:--prune,
-q:--quiet,
+q:--quiet, r:--nocolor,
 s:--search,S:--searchdesc,
 't':--tree,
 u:--update,U:--upgradeonly,
@@ -371,6 +371,10 @@
portage.debug=1
portage.settings.lock()
 
+# Set color output
+if (--nocolor in myopts) and (sys.stdout.isatty()):
+   nocolor()
+
 CLEAN_DELAY = 5
 EMERGE_WARNING_DELAY = 10
 if portage.settings[CLEAN_DELAY]:

Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Photoshop 7.0 On Wine Users.

2005-04-12 Thread Charles Pittman

On Apr 12, 2005 7:54 AM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Yes, it would work, but I'm just wondering why you would want to do
that in the first place... one of us must be missing something
important here.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

2005-04-12 Thread Jason Stubbs

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 23:24, Jason Cooper wrote:
 Jason Stubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:49, A. Khattri wrote:
   There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
   --nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but
   I dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers -
   the email from cron contains a lot of control codes.
 
  Well, that's three people saying it should be implemented but no
  offerings off any code yet... Here's my solution: Add NOCOLOR=true to
  your crontab.

 ehh, challenge accepted. :)

And applied to CVS.

 initial patch attached.  This is against 'emerge' from
 sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19.

 it adds '--nocolor' with the abbreviation '-r'.  Looks like my tabs
 might be off, let me know if they are.

I removed the '-r' short option.

 I've never looked at this code before, nor this language.  So I'm sure I
 screwed it up...

The spaces vs tabs in the options array is just a formatting thing. Other than 
that there were no problems.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

Jason Stubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tuesday 12 April 2005 23:24, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Jason Stubbs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:49, A. Khattri wrote:
There really ought to be a --nocolor option for emerge, alongside the
--nospinner option. (I know I could add it to FEATURES in make.conf but
I dont want to do that). I run emerge --sync from cron on my servers -
the email from cron contains a lot of control codes.
  
   Well, that's three people saying it should be implemented but no
   offerings off any code yet... Here's my solution: Add NOCOLOR=true to
   your crontab.
 
  ehh, challenge accepted. :)
 
 And applied to CVS.
 
  initial patch attached.  This is against 'emerge' from
  sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19.
 
  it adds '--nocolor' with the abbreviation '-r'.  Looks like my tabs
  might be off, let me know if they are.
 
 I removed the '-r' short option.
 
  I've never looked at this code before, nor this language.  So I'm sure I
  screwed it up...
 
 The spaces vs tabs in the options array is just a formatting thing. Other 
 than 
 that there were no problems.

so I guess this is kinda pointless?

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88858

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse

Hi,

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The error message is Warning:  Could Not Send Message
 For Past Four Hours.  It says that it could not
 connect to the server it's trying to deliver the mail
 to and that it will keep trying for the next week.  I
 am using my own mail server.  I do not wish to use
 CableOne's smtp server because I consider them to be
 incompetent.

You'll have to use some kind of relay. Because:
- you can ping by name to the outside mail server, so network
connectivity and DNS setup is OK.
- you cannot telnet its port 25, so this is administratively prohibited.
Same thing applies for your mail server.

You wont be able to do anything against it on your own side, except for
writing harsh emails to your ISP... Only exception would be a
misconfigured firewall on your side, but i don't suspect so.

Well, and luckily they didn't block incoming SMTP, that's at least
something;-) Maybe you have some internet server at hand that you could
use to set up your own outgoing relay server? It could listen on a port
!= 25.

HWH
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[gentoo-user] Music Management Database

2005-04-12 Thread Eamon Caddigan

Hey all, I'm looking for recommendations for an application to manage
all the music on my fileserver, perhaps through a web interface. I have
a reasonably large library (100k files), and manually organizing
everything is needlessly tedious. 

I'm not interested in playing music (it wouldn't be a problem if the
functionality is there, but it's not a priority), just manipulating
files and metadata through a database-like interface. 

Thanks,
Eamon


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[gentoo-user] enable dspam cgi

2005-04-12 Thread Mauro Faccenda

Hi all,

Does anyone use the dspam's web interface? I tried to find how can I do
that, but without success.

Can anyone help me?


[]'s
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[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] enable dspam cgi

2005-04-12 Thread Mauro Faccenda

Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone use the dspam's web interface? I tried to find how can I do
 that, but without success.
 
 Can anyone help me?

Ok, I was just trying to find a way to get dspam to build with the .cgi,
but is another package (dspam-web) that does it.

[]'s
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RE: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

Here's a good starting reference that might help:
http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html

Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge needs a --nocolor option

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Jason Stubbs wrote:

 It's already handled earlier. I was considering moving the whole lot downward
 but then there is color output when bad options are specified.

Hey that was fast ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Last I want to be able to record and distribute
 TV on the network and need some pointers as to both hardware and
 software.

A lot of people like MythTV (mythtv.org) - ebuilds exist. It has a
client-server architecture so you can have less powerful setop boxes
acting as front-ends - a lot of Gentooers uses Xboxes for that :-)


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[gentoo-user] Error Emerging PHP 4.3.11

2005-04-12 Thread Tommy Young

When doing my emarge -uavD world, and letting it upgrade from php 
4.3.10 to php 4.3.11, I get the following build error. Has anyone else 
seen it or know how to fix it?
libtool: link: cannot find the library 
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'
make: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1

!!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.11 failed.
!!! Function php-sapi_src_compile, Line 544, Exitcode 2
!!! compile problem
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

lemonaid root #
Thanks,
Tommy

smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht

On Apr 12, 2005 9:05 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  Last I want to be able to record and distribute
  TV on the network and need some pointers as to both hardware and
  software.
 
 A lot of people like MythTV (mythtv.org) - ebuilds exist. It has a
 client-server architecture so you can have less powerful setop boxes
 acting as front-ends - a lot of Gentooers uses Xboxes for that :-)

Hey - thanks! I hadn't thought about an XBox at the TV as a player. Good idea.

- Mark
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[gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

2005-04-12 Thread The Disguised Jedi

OK...This is going to sound like a really dumb question, but I'm really new at this, but liking it so far...

I've heard (and believe) that the Mac OS is built on a Linux kernel. Is this true? If so, does that mean that Macintosh\Applecompatible software can be installed on a Gentoo machine? There's lots of software out there I'd like to use in my Gentoo environment, and I can find Mac\Apple versions, but I don't know if it will work in Gentoo.

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Re: Pentium M is actually quite good. (Was: Re: Laptop_Mode was[Re: [OT] Ext3 Speed Issues? (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] file system corrupted)])

Ow Mun Heng wrote:

On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 22:05 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
  

Isn't that what the -march=pentium-m and -mtune=pentium-m flags are for in
GCC 3.4?



That's what it should be for. Friend of mine used 3.4 on a BSD machine
to compile apps using pentium-m and results were S-N-A-P-P-Y! :-)

Doing a make world on the kernel though trashed.
  


Ok, since nobody is actually bothering to _read_ article that I linked
to, let me quote a small piece:

Pentium M's Micro Ops Fusion, local branch prediction and general
optimizations across integer division and register access are completely
ignored by the compiler, even when setting - march=pentium-m, since most
compilers (particularly anything before GCC 3.4.2) tend to just
categorize Pentium M as a P6 processor with a higher clock. -Anandtech.com

From what I can tell from the change logs for GCC 3.4.2 and 3.4.3,
nothing has changed in this regard.

Anandtech.com might be completely wrong about GCC, but I would be _very_
surprised.  The article has many benchmarks for different types of
applications, if anyone is actually interested.

http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2308

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] [OT] global variables and memory limitations

2005-04-12 Thread Denis

Folks,

I am not certain if this has anything to do with Gentoo or not.  I am
programming something in C, and I need to address as much memory as
possible for the arrays that need to be specified as global variables.
 I have 2 GB memory on this machine, and I'd like to use as much of it
as possible, but my code segfaults if I try to allocate more than
around 1 GB of RAM to my running code like that.  I heard that this is
due to the dynamic libraries.  If I compile with gcc and use the
static flag, I can allocate close to the physical limit (maybe 1.7
or 1.8 GB) and also if I allocate my variables dynamically, I can do
the same thing.  But the problem is, I cannot compile statically since
I need the math libraries.  I could go the route of dynamic
allocation, but I need to invest significant efforts to restructure my
code.  I saw a thread on something similar to this on Beowulf, where
they suggested moving the dynamic libraries somehow :

 changing
the location of the shared libraries in memory by changing the
variable __PAGE_OFFSET in kernel header files... 

How do I do that and do i need to recompile the kernel after
attempting something like this?

Thanks!
Denis
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Richard Fish wrote:
Ok, since nobody is actually bothering to _read_ article that I linked
to, let me quote a small piece:
Hey!! -- I Resent That! -- *I* read the article, and I use AMD's!
And I read the whole thing, too,  *examined* the charts!
(Just so you know it wasn't wasted ;) -- Have a nice, )
Thanks,
rgh.
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[gentoo-user] web-browser out port

2005-04-12 Thread Joseph

Is there a standard port the web-browser connection is going OUT (to
internet) on?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

Right all the way, Trey, as best as I recall,  my local brother has a 
Mac, which I hadda help him with a couple of times, after drooling for a 
few minutes at his wonderful 87-inch -- !! -- I mean 27-inch --  -- 
no, I mean **23**-inch Apple monitor ;) .
rgh.

Trey Gruel wrote:
I've heard (and believe) that the Mac OS is built on a Linux kernel.  Is this true?  If so,
does that mean that Macintosh\Apple compatible software can be installed on a Gentoo
machine?  There's lots of software out there I'd like to use in my Gentoo environment,
and I can find Mac\Apple versions, but I don't know if it will work in Gentoo. 
   

no..  macos x is based on bsd with a mach microkernel (i think i've
got that right).  macos may be able to run linux programs (most, when
compiled from source on the mac, should be able to work), but most
macos apps will not work outside of the mac environment.
first off, there's the issue of cpu architecture.  most (i believe)
gentoo users are running on x86 (or amd64) platforms, not ppc (which
is what macs use).  secondly, most native mac apps use apis (cocoa,
carbon, etc) specific to the mac.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating root's settings to new user

Grant wrote:

I've been logging in as root and working completely from there, but
xscreensaver doesn't like that too much so I finally got around to
adding a user for myself to work from.  I understand that's the smart
thing to do anyway.

Is there a slick way to get all of my root user's settings applied
to my new user?  I could copy the pertinent /root/* files, but I would
need to alter owner and group manually and then I'd feel like I'm
opening holes.

Can anyone give me any advice on this?
  


Copying the directory is probably your best bet.  I can't really think
of any security holes that get opened up this way, if you chown everything.
The commands you need are:

as root
(cd /root ; tar -cf - ./) | (cd ~me/; tar -xf -)
chown -R me:users ~me

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] global variables and memory limitations

Denis wrote:

Folks,

I am not certain if this has anything to do with Gentoo or not.  I am
programming something in C, and I need to address as much memory as
possible for the arrays that need to be specified as global variables.
 I have 2 GB memory on this machine, and I'd like to use as much of it
as possible, but my code segfaults if I try to allocate more than
around 1 GB of RAM to my running code like that.  I heard that this is
due to the dynamic libraries.  If I compile with gcc and use the
  


Hi Denis,

I know I'm not answering your question directly, but would *strongly*
suggest going the dynamic route.  The reason is that you are going to
want to leave some memory spare for other processes and the kernel to
use, or the first time you actually run out of memory, _your_
application is going to be killed by the kernel.  It kills the largest
memory user first, and it doesn't really matter whether that was stack
space or heap space.

Your best chance of avoiding the out-of-memory killer is to detect how
much spare memory is available at application start, and then allocate
90-95% of that.  That assumes of course that you have a high-degree of
control over the system and that you don't have to worry about something
started by a cron job wanting 200MB of memory.

-Richard

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RE: [gentoo-user] Error Emerging PHP 4.3.11


  libtool: link: cannot find the library
  `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'

To fix:

# fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4


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Re: [gentoo-user] getting sound to work with a new kernel and udev

2005-04-12 Thread Antoine

Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:36:58 +0200, Antoine wrote:
 
 
I have upgraded to the latest ck and udev. Everything seems to be
working, except sound. I also compiled my soundcard as a module this
time, instead of right into the kernel. I didn't load it on boot, but a
modprobe doesn't seem to make any difference. Could someone tell me what
I should put in my autoload? I am using a yamaha whose module is
snd-ymfpci.
 
 
 You don't use modules.autoload to handle ALSA modules. Edit
 /etc/modules.d/alsa to suit your card.

Why on earth would gnome have different settings for my two kernels? It
turned off the sounds for my new kernel, and that was the problem...
Thanks for everyones help...
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Emerging PHP 4.3.11

2005-04-12 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark

On 2005-04-12 13:23:27 -0400, Tommy Young wrote:
 When doing my emarge -uavD world, and letting it upgrade from php
 4.3.10 to php 4.3.11, I get the following build error. Has anyone
 else seen it or know how to fix it?
 libtool: link: cannot find the library 
 `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'
 make: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1
 
 !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.11 failed.
 !!! Function php-sapi_src_compile, Line 544, Exitcode 2
 !!! compile problem
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.

Please try searching the mailing list archives at:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user

For example:

http://search.gmane.org/?query=libtool%3A+link%3A+cannot+find+the+librarygroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.user

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Re: [gentoo-user] web-browser out port

2005-04-12 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Joseph wrote:
 Is there a standard port the web-browser connection is going OUT (to
 internet) on?

You might want to read up on how TCP/IP works. Outgoing connections are made on
a random (well, not random, but not exactly predictable) port 1024. All ports
=1024 are restricted for root's use only. If you're trying to do something with
a firewall, trying matching a destination port of 80 instead of the source port.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to update after emerging KDE-3.4.0 using ~x86

2005-04-12 Thread Jamie Dobbs





Richard Fish wrote:

  Jamie Dobbs wrote:

  
  
At the moment if I do an emerge -uDpv world I can see it wanting to
downgrade a huge amount of packages whihc I obviously do not want to do.
 


  
  Add any packages that you want the ~x86 keyword accepted for to
/etc/portage/package.keywords.  Something like

kde-base/kde-meta ~x86

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The unfortunate thing about that it it doesn't appear to accept the
'meta-package' to cover everything and I'm still trying to work out all
the packages that need to be added.

Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

2005-04-12 Thread Scott Taylor

Look here http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ and
http://www.opendarwin.org/

The base is pretty much a linux but as has been mentioned before, they
have plenty of hardware-specific code and their cocoa which
realistically only works on their gear, so don't expect to run mac
software on anything other than a mac. Going the other direction, if you
open up a terminal window on a mac (though thats something the mac users
I know would *never* do on their own), you'll see the familiar bash
prompt, and you can download a great deal of linux source code and
compile it and run it even, without too much trouble. X11 applications
can run on a mac, though from what I've seen its kinda cobbled together
like the x emulators for windows, so the fonts and cursors and such
won't act like the rest of your system (this was most noted in relation
to the mac version of openoffice which hadn't had the code added to make
it talk natively to the cocoa interface though they may have finished
that part by now).

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[gentoo-user] Re: Music Management Database

2005-04-12 Thread Eamon Caddigan

Botykai Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tuesday 12 April 2005 18.28-n, Eamon Caddigan ezt írta:
 Hey all, I'm looking for recommendations for an application to manage
 all the music on my fileserver, perhaps through a web interface. I have
 a reasonably large library (100k files), and manually organizing
 everything is needlessly tedious.
 I'm not interested in playing music (it wouldn't be a problem if the
 functionality is there, but it's not a priority), just manipulating
 files and metadata through a database-like interface.
 
 http://opendb.i-am-vegan.net/ allows you to catalog medias, but don't let you 
 manipulate those file. 

That's neat, but not quite what I had in mind. I'm envisioning something
not too different than iTunes, without the playing/ripping/burning/iTMS
parts. 

I'm sure I could just create a database with paths to files and the
metadata I'm interested in; write some code to keep the DB in sync with
the library; and use something like phpMyAdmin to edit and view the info
over the web. However, I'm sure any existing project will be nicer than
whatever I kludge together myself

 But as it is a fileserver (maybe) you can mount those dirs then
 easytag to tag those files and bash/mc to move/copy/delete them?

That's pretty much what I'm doing now, which I'm trying to move away
from. 

I've seen a couple linux-based jukeboxes that integrate file management
and music playback (e.g., slimserver, mdb). I'd be willing to use one of
those as long as the file management aspect is sufficiently strong. Can
anyone vouch for one of those? Is there any better way to manage a large
music library that I haven't even imagined yet?

-Eamon


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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-12 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 01:07 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
 Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
 **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?

I understand that the answer is yes, although I have not done it. I
think the answer would be the same for thunderbird/firefox.

I have the same requirement with email, but solve it with imap. In other
words I have a server with all my mail stored on it. I can access it
with any client from any computer from any OS, including over the web
via squirrelmail. I don't really know any mail clients that do not do
imap. That, IMHO is the answer to accessing mail from different OSes,
although it may not suit people who don't want or cannot afford another
computer in their house/place of work.

 
 (I sometimes must spend *many* hours in Win to run tools and 
 applications to make money with.  These programs (mostly related to 
 embedded tiny processors) are win-only, and have no
 linux-equivalents, 
 and won't even run under Win4Lin since w4l9x basically does not
 support 
 'random' USB devices like embedded debuggers.)
 
 Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to update after emerging KDE-3.4.0 using ~x86

Jamie Dobbs wrote:

 The unfortunate thing about that it it doesn't appear to accept the
 'meta-package' to cover everything and I'm still trying to work out
 all the packages that need to be added.


Ugh...

# grep --no-filename deprange
/usr/portage/kde-base/*-meta/*-meta-3.4.0.ebuild | sort | uniq | wc -l
281

281 (probably a few less when duplicates are removed) packages to add
the ~x86 keyword for...yuck.   Somebody tell me there is an easier
way...that doesn't involve setting ~x86 in make.conf??

I guess your alternative is to unmerge kde-meta, and emerge the
kde-mega packages instead.

From my system:

# grep kde /etc/portage/package.keywords
kde-base/arts ~x86
kde-base/kde ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86
kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86
kde-base/kdebase ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86
kde-base/kdeedu ~x86
kde-base/kdegames ~x86
kde-base/kdegraphics ~x86
kde-base/kdelibs ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork ~x86
kde-base/kdepim ~x86
kde-base/kdetoys ~x86
kde-base/kdeutils ~x86

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Re: [gentoo-user] web-browser out port

2005-04-12 Thread Joseph

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 14:09 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Joseph wrote:
  Is there a standard port the web-browser connection is going OUT (to
  internet) on?
 
 You might want to read up on how TCP/IP works. Outgoing connections are made 
 on
 a random (well, not random, but not exactly predictable) port 1024. All ports
 =1024 are restricted for root's use only. If you're trying to do something 
 with
 a firewall, trying matching a destination port of 80 instead of the source 
 port.

I'm experimenting with a firewall. I've Stealth all port 0 to 79 and 81
to 1050 and I can connect IN to my server but not OUT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht

On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification
  (like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or
  is this no longer true?
 
 Yes, that's true.
 

No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page:

http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F

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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

2005-04-12 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 13:24 -0600, Scott Taylor wrote:
 The base is pretty much a linux but as has been mentioned before, they
 have plenty of hardware-specific code and their cocoa which
 realistically only works on their gear

What rubbish, Mac does NOT run linux. The fact that it  a  posix-like
unix-like system, and that lots of apps that will run on unix/linux will
run on mac does not change the fact that linux is defined by the linux
kernel, and the mac kernel is is certainly not a linux kernel.

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[gentoo-user] ATI drivers

2005-04-12 Thread James

Hello all,

I've gotten my portable system updated, excepted for the ati-drivers.
I need somebody to explain a few things to me about the ATI-drivers.

BACKGROUND:
On my portable I have  this chipset:
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000], on a portable.

emerge -s ati-drivers shows:


media-video/ati-drivers
  Latest version available: 8.12.10
  Latest version installed: 8.12.10
snip
media-video/ati-drivers-extra
  Latest version available: 8.8.25
  Latest version installed: 8.8.25

OK, so the upgradde form 8.8.xxx to 8.12.10 has occurred. At the 
end of the upgrade this message is echoed to the screen:
* To switch to ATI OpenGL, run opengl-update ati
 * To change your XF86Config you can use the bundled fglrxconfig

 * ***
 * If you are experiencing problems with memory allocation try to add
 * this line to in your X11 configuration file:
 *  Option KernelModuleParm  agplock=0
 * That should solve the hangups you could have with Neverwinter Nights
 * ***

So here are the questions:

1. Should I switch to ATI OpenGL ? If not what do I loose? Why?

2. OK if I follow the instructions and switch, are there any
snafu's or is this beta code that's going to cook something 
on the portable?

3. Is this just another Open Source versus Vendor Closed source
binaries  pissing_contest or  is the ATI OpenGL really 
beneficial in means of performance/features?

4. Can I just 'emerge unmerge ati-drivers' and live happily 
without ati-drivers on my portable ? (I do not remember
installing ati-drivers, but hey, I don't remember lots
of things).

Any words of wisdom are much appreciated!

James

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[gentoo-user] kmail-3.4.0 dependencies

2005-04-12 Thread Guilheme Cirne

Hi,

Does anybody know why kmail-3.4.0 depends on kontact-3.4.0?

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

Inlining what little I know here...
James wrote:
Hello all,
BACKGROUND:
On my portable I have  this chipset:
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000], on a portable.
emerge -s ati-drivers shows:
media-video/ati-drivers
 Latest version available: 8.12.10
 Latest version installed: 8.12.10
snip
media-video/ati-drivers-extra
 Latest version available: 8.8.25
 Latest version installed: 8.8.25
Don't know that specific chip, nor what supports it.
OK, so the upgradde form 8.8.xxx to 8.12.10 has occurred. At the 
end of the upgrade this message is echoed to the screen:
* To switch to ATI OpenGL, run opengl-update ati
* To change your XF86Config you can use the bundled fglrxconfig

* ***
* If you are experiencing problems with memory allocation try to add
* this line to in your X11 configuration file:
*  Option KernelModuleParm  agplock=0
* That should solve the hangups you could have with Neverwinter Nights
* ***
So here are the questions:
1. Should I switch to ATI OpenGL ? If not what do I loose? Why?
What that does, IIUC, is to tell the opengl that is already on your 
system to attach itself to the ATI drivers, not actually replace the 
opengl.  Also, you must do this if you want opengl to work while the ATI 
drivers re installed, but if you don't care about opengl -- which 
depends on what you want to do and what the software to do it needs -- 
then you can ignore that part; I have on other computers.

2. OK if I follow the instructions and switch, are there any
snafu's or is this beta code that's going to cook something 
on the portable?

Only thing I know right now is I am asking around for help with 
dual-monitor/Win4Lin/ATI-drivers. There is a problem there (ATI AIW 
agp8x 128m c).

3. Is this just another Open Source versus Vendor Closed source
binaries  pissing_contest or  is the ATI OpenGL really 
beneficial in means of performance/features?

..contest...  Yes, in part, at least! (Holy Wars... I hate 'em!)
...OpenGL... --is beneficial, yes, and, repeating, the update above 
has to be done foe OpenGL to work while ATI drivers are loaded.

4. Can I just 'emerge unmerge ati-drivers' and live happily 
without ati-drivers on my portable ? (I do not remember
installing ati-drivers, but hey, I don't remember lots
of things).

Partial knowledge: for resolution not over 1024x768, probably can.  I 
__did__ say 'probably'!  It depends on what kind of performance you 
need; for normal 2-d stuffs, you may never notice the difference.  One 
Last Note! -- -I- haven't unemrged anything yet, so maybe you should 
even ask that last as a single-question message about unmerging?
rgh.

Any words of wisdom are much appreciated!
James
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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

Below...
Nick Rout wrote:
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 13:24 -0600, Scott Taylor wrote:
 

The base is pretty much a linux but as has been mentioned before, they
have plenty of hardware-specific code and their cocoa which
realistically only works on their gear
   

What rubbish, Mac does NOT run linux. The fact that it  a  posix-like
unix-like system, and that lots of apps that will run on unix/linux will
run on mac does not change the fact that linux is defined by the linux
kernel, and the mac kernel is is certainly not a linux kernel.
 

Repeating what has already been said here, the OS X kernel is (based 
on?) BSD, which, technically, is not Linux'.
That said, yes, *some* linux-aps will run there...
rgh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

James wrote:

ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000], on a portable.

1. Should I switch to ATI OpenGL ? If not what do I loose? Why?
  


I'm pretty sure you don't need the ATI drivers, the built-in radeon
driver has 3D acceleration for your card.  You only need the ati-drivers
for R300 or greater.

Mostly, if they work, you will lose any kind of software suspend/power
management support.  I have no idea why ATI can't support such a simple
thing as suspend/resume, when the necessary events have been in the
kernel for over a year, and every _other_ driver supports it, including
nvidia...this is the main reason I refuse to run the ATI drivers on my
mobility 9600.

You will also lose the ability to use the radeonfb driver for your
console...the two drivers do not play nice together.  You can use either
text mode or vesafb (slow) for console support.

3. Is this just another Open Source versus Vendor Closed source
binaries  pissing_contest or  is the ATI OpenGL really 
beneficial in means of performance/features?
  


Well, I don't get particularly religious about open-source vs. closed
source drivers...but the ATI drivers are for me the clearest example of
why linux drivers should be opensource.  If a vendor is going to provide
closed-source drivers, I expect them to keep them up to date, support
most features in the current kernel release, and provide some kind of
support to their users.  ATI doesn't seem interested in any of
thesereleases every 2-3 months, with the same issues over and over
againno response to email or web forums (checkout rage3d.com)...etc.

rant
That, and their configuration script still asks me whether I want to
enable middle-mouse-button emulation...I haven't needed that in, oh, 8
years!!  And this is a linux 2.6 kernelyou don't *need* to detect my
mouse, the kernel already did!!  And thats besides asking me what the
HSync and VSync ranges are for an LCD display connected via DVI which is
_just_ _plain_ _idiotic_. X -configure is sooo much more sane--it
still misconfigures my mouse, but at least it doesn't ask me stupid
questions while doing it!
/rant

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI drivers

Richard Fish wrote:

James wrote:

  

ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000], on a portable.

1. Should I switch to ATI OpenGL ? If not what do I loose? Why?
 




I'm pretty sure you don't need the ATI drivers, the built-in radeon
driver has 3D acceleration for your card.  You only need the ati-drivers
for R300 or greater.
  


BTW, you might just want to take a peek at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
fileif you find 'Driver radeon', you are using x.org's driver.  If
it says 'Driver fglrx', you are using the ATI drivers currently. 
Might help to double check what you are using now.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

Zander Z365 wrote:

Yes.  I did enable SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support.  Here is
what I have for Processor Family:

Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/Xeon)

Here is what dmesg reports:

CPU0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz stepping 09
CPU1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz stepping 09

Are my settings correct?  By the way my cpu also has 512K L2 cache.
  



Seems to be correct.  So, what _does_ /proc/cpuinfo contain???

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

Right!
rgh.
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 1:44 PM, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Repeating what has already been said here, the OS X kernel is (based
on?) BSD, which, technically, is not Linux'.
That said, yes, *some* linux-aps will run there...
rgh.
   

Like the joke says, only two things of interest ever came out of Bezerkley 

- BSD  LSD
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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconceptions about Mac\Apple?

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Persson

On April 12, 2005 11:37 am, quoth Robert Persson:
 There is an open source project called Gnustep which is
 trying to replicate the Nextstep API (Cocoa).
Oops.  What I meant to say was that the OS X native API is called Cocoa and is 
closely based on the nextstep API.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-12 Thread michael

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification
(like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or
is this no longer true?
Yes, that's true.
No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F
- Mark
Thanks for finding that, Mark. I'm in the market for a cheap linux box
and had discounted the xbox for this reason. Now I think it's exactly what I 
need.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht

Michael,
   I'm being careful as I don't want to hurt my kid's XBox but
apparently Dynebolics has a LiveCD that boots on XBox. I'm downloading
it and intended to try booting it today or tomorrow and see what
happens. If I could use that for playing PVR recorded video it would
be great as the thing is always attached to the TV anyway.

   I'll report back if someone else doesn't chime in first.

Take care,
Mark

On Apr 12, 2005 3:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification
  (like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or
  is this no longer true?
 
  Yes, that's true.
 
 
  No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page:
 
  http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F
 
  - Mark
 
 
 Thanks for finding that, Mark. I'm in the market for a cheap linux box
 and had discounted the xbox for this reason. Now I think it's exactly what I 
 need.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders

2005-04-12 Thread michael

Thanks Mark - I look forward to hearing your review. I'm almost tempted
to run out right now (perhaps it's good that my lunch break has already
passed) and buy an xbox!
If I do anything, I will certainly post what I learn here as well.
M
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
Michael,
  I'm being careful as I don't want to hurt my kid's XBox but
apparently Dynebolics has a LiveCD that boots on XBox. I'm downloading
it and intended to try booting it today or tomorrow and see what
happens. If I could use that for playing PVR recorded video it would
be great as the thing is always attached to the TV anyway.
  I'll report back if someone else doesn't chime in first.
Take care,
Mark
On Apr 12, 2005 3:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification
(like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or
is this no longer true?
Yes, that's true.
No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F
- Mark
Thanks for finding that, Mark. I'm in the market for a cheap linux box
and had discounted the xbox for this reason. Now I think it's exactly what I 
need.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap results: need help

2005-04-12 Thread Alex Bennee

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 15:43 -0700, death rince wrote:
 hi,

 a) why does it show that the there is netbois ports
 b) why mysql is shown as unauthorised.
 c) why is it showiing tftp as filtered. why it is open
 in the first place
 
 I have attached the output of  grep disable
 /etc/xinetd.d/*  below.
 
 I would appreciate some help on this.
 
 with regards
 john doe
 
 
 
 69/tcpfiltered tftp
 109/tcp   open pop2 UW POP2 server
 2001.63rh
 110/tcp   open pop3 UW Imap pop3 server
 2001.78rh
 135/tcp   filtered msrpc
 137/tcp   filtered netbios-ns
 138/tcp   filtered netbios-dgm
 139/tcp   filtered netbios-ssn
 143/tcp   open imap UW imapd 2001.315rh
 445/tcp   filtered microsoft-ds
 993/tcp   open ssl/imap UW imapd 2001.315rh
 995/tcp   open ssl/pop3 UW Imap pop3 server
 2001.78rh
 3306/tcp  open mysqlMySQL (unauthorized)
 1/tcp open http Webmin httpd

On the machine scanning the simplest thing to do is run netstat -lpn
which will list all listening ports and what program has them open. That
should at least point you in the direction of whats what.

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