Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:14:14 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: #ls -ld /var/amavis/ drwxr-x--- 7 amavis amavis 4096 Sep 26 15:05 /var/amavis The problem is here. root cannot access that directory. right. Which was what I found out by answering question #2. root should be able to access any directory. I think you'll find dspam is not running as root but as the dspam user. Add the dspam user to the amavis group and chmod g+w that directory. -- Neil Bothwick Don't let your mind wander, it's too little to be let out alone. pgp48C62ReqZe.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Strange behaviour of rp-pppoe
Hello! Since years I use the init scripy rp-pppoe to bring my adsl connection up. For months (years?) it worked perfectly. But since a month or two I get this strange message at boot time: * Starting adsl ... .. Connected! adsl-stop: No ADSL connection appears to be running [!!] and I must run adsl-start manually to bring the line up. I can't figure what is calling adsl-stop. Any idea? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Hello all, I am very new to gentoo (used to use Red Hat earlier) I have installed gentoo using the networkless install with the 2005.1 universal CD. I have got the system booting perfectly and detecting all the hardware as well. I got the network connection working and now I am running #emerge --update --deep world to get the latest version of the system. My question is .. Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) how do i start X? How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) Thanks! Best regards, Vikram
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Apache with SSL
Am Montag, 26. September 2005 06:46 schrieb Arkady Grudzinsky: Never mind. Right after sending out the email I found mod_ssl.so in extramodules/ and everything started to work after I uncommented IfDefine SSL in conf/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf. Just add -D SSL to APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2. If you're using a recent version of Apache, have a closer look at /etc/conf.d/apache2. There are more useful options. Arkady. HTH HAND, Steffen pgpOB1kRNVojP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 14:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed. Chances are you have it, too. etcat -s x11 will tell you for sure. If not, doing emerge xorg-x11 as root will install it. how do i start X? Log in, then issue the command startx (no, really!). If you want the system to boot to a graphical login, log in as root and issue the command rc-update add xdm default to add the X display manager (xdm) to the default runlevel. How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) Use emerge, preferably with the -a (--ask) option so that you have a chance to bail out before it installs everything and the kitchen sink if you don't want it to. emerge -s (--search) will search for a package with a name containing the given string. See man emerge for more possibilities. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOmxqdY+HSb3praYRApKEAKCb9mX2u10JMuWNhRQ4m+TvGsJezwCfSYXz umlOeFm0E7Rxqllw+AjpJBM= =BlzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot compile ipw2100 against kernel 2.6.13
Hi,
I have been using wireless on my Dell laptop successfully under kernel
2.6.12
and earlier, but I can't get it to build under kernel 2.6.13. Specifically,
the ipw2100 package fails to compile against kernel 2.6.13.{,1,2}. I
have looked in
bugzilla, but couldn't see anything relevant. M`aybe I'm missing a
trick somewhere.
In detail, when
/usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6
everything works OK.
But when
/usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2
there are errors beginning like this.
-
Source unpacked.
* You may safely ignore any errors from compilation that contain
* warnings about undefined references to the ieee80211 subsystem.
*
* Preparing ipw2100 module
mkdir -p
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions
cp /usr/include/*.mod
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions
cp: cannot stat `/usr/include/*.mod': No such file or directory
make: [modules] Error 1 (ignored)
make -C /usr/src/linux
M=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2
MODVERDIR=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/w
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2'
CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.o
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c: In
function `ipw2100_set_scan_options':
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:1584:
error: structure has no member named `sec'
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:1584:
error: structure has no member named `sec'
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c: In
function `ipw2100_configure_security':
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:5103:
error: structure has no member named `sec'
/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:5108:
error: structure has no member named `sec'
--
BTW, I am totally confused about in-kernel versus out-of-kernel software
for Intel wireless
and about the hardware/driver nomenclature. Here is the (possibly)
relevant part of
my kernel .config file.
--
#
# Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
#
CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y
#
# Obsolete Wireless cards support (pre-802.11)
#
# CONFIG_STRIP is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_WAVELAN is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_NETWAVE is not set
#
# Wireless 802.11 Frequency Hopping cards support
#
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_RAYCS is not set
#
# Wireless 802.11b ISA/PCI cards support
#
CONFIG_HERMES=y
# CONFIG_PLX_HERMES is not set
# CONFIG_TMD_HERMES is not set
CONFIG_PCI_HERMES=y
# CONFIG_ATMEL is not set
#
# Wireless 802.11b Pcmcia/Cardbus cards support
#
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES is not set
# CONFIG_AIRO_CS is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_WL3501 is not set
#
# Prism GT/Duette 802.11(a/b/g) PCI/Cardbus support
#
# CONFIG_PRISM54 is not set
CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y
#
# PCMCIA network device support
#
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA=y
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C589 is not set
CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C574=y
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_FMVJ18X is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_PCNET is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_NMCLAN is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_SMC91C92 is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_XIRC2PS is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_AXNET is not set
---
(I sometimes use a PCMCIA cable-ethernet card, but not at present.)
There is a comment that the ipw in-kernel driver may change in 2.6.14,
but I don't want to wait
for that if it turns out to be my error anyway.
Thanks,
John Green
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Re: [gentoo-user] Load Balancing / Redundant Network ?
Mal Herring wrote, On 09/19/2005 09:10 AM: Can the eth ports when using the bonding driver get plugged into different switches ? Yes. from /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt: 12.2 High Availability in a Multiple Switch Topology | | |port3 port3| +-++ +-++ | |port2 ISL port2| | | switch A +--+ switch B | | | | | +-++ +-++---+ |port1 port1| | +---+ | +-+ host1 +---+ eth0 +---+ eth1 -- Yoann Pannier -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What to expect from emerge --newuse --emptytree world re: etc-update
I'm getting ready to dive into the apache2 install on my server.
In preparation for this I needed things I wasn't using before like
IMAP (see thread on web mail systems), MySQL, and ldap.
Being the good little gentoo boy I updated my USE flags to include
these and other settings that I plan to use but didn't have in before.
And since my USE flags changed, I'm in the middle of doing the
emerge --newuse --emptytree world (it's actually going quite well;
hum, that seems like a bit of overkill. wouldn't emerge --newuse world
have sufficed? If you only added imap, mysql, and ldap, there should
only be fewer than 150 packages out of 417 that needs to be
recompiled.
Well there were actually quite more use flags than that. To prep for
apache I added the jpeg, png, xml xst, php and a bunch of other
related flags. Some of them are probably overkill, but it seemed to be
a significant enough change to the USE flags that I thought may touch on
more of the installed components than such a short list.
The --emptytree as well might be overkill, don't know for sure. I
thought it would be the safer option to ensure that dependencies, etc.,
would be covered. Either way it is too late now as the recompiling is
almost finished.
out of 417 packages, only scotty failed due to some sandbox violations
that I'm not worried about right now).
But that's got me wondering - am I going to be looking at hundreds
of /etc updates?
something like that, yes.
BUT, if you are like me and do not modify most of the configuration
files, LOTS of those files in /etc will get handled automatically by
etc-update... you only need worry about those files you have changed
from the defaults.
I tend to get into many of the configuration files for one reason or
another adding or removing options that are specific for my site (and I
guess I'm a control freak ;-)
So on the majority I would be looking at many updates.
So if I am looking at hundreds of /etc updates that I don't really
want to have to wade through, what would be the easiest way to purge
them all?
My find syntax is a bit rusty, but I think running the following as
root might do it: (you can sub -f for -i if you are real adventurous)
find /etc -name ._cfg00* -exec /bin/rm -i {};
That's the route I'm probably going to take. Thanks Willie!
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[gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Hello, I want to know for what reason there is sth like updating portage cache after rsync in emerge sync. It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to update,install or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you would need to do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that is better to let it do just when updating portage tree :) Holpe it helps, Allan On 9/28/05, Paweł Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I want to know for what reason there is sth like updating portage cache after rsync in emerge sync. It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to update,install or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you would need to do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that is better to let it do just when updating portage tree :) Holpe it helps, Allan Thx for fast answer. Ok I'll leave it as is, but maybe is there any way too speedup it? It runs on my P3 800 / HDD 5400 rpm more that 10 minutes. Or it is working on every computer so slowly? Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Paweł Madej wrote: Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to update,install or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you would need to do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that is better to let it do just when updating portage tree :) Holpe it helps, Allan Thx for fast answer. Ok I'll leave it as is, but maybe is there any way too speedup it? It runs on my P3 800 / HDD 5400 rpm more that 10 minutes. Or it is working on every computer so slowly? Greets Paweł That sounds a bit slow, but not massively so, it takes a long time. You could CRON your emerge sync to happen in the middle of the night, and then you won't have to watch it. :-) For something you should only do once a day, 10 minutes isn't that bad though. Cheers, Dunc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
On Sep 28, 2005, at 5:11 AM, Michael Kjorling wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 14:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed. Chances are you have it, too. A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...that got X installed, then kde and xdm, etc. etcat -s x11 will tell you for sure. If not, doing emerge xorg-x11 as root will install it. how do i start X? Log in, then issue the command startx (no, really!). If you want the system to boot to a graphical login, log in as root and issue the command rc-update add xdm default to add the X display manager (xdm) to the default runlevel. How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) Use emerge, preferably with the -a (--ask) option so that you have a chance to bail out before it installs everything and the kitchen sink if you don't want it to. emerge -s (--search) will search for a package with a name containing the given string. See man emerge for more possibilities. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOmxqdY+HSb3praYRApKEAKCb9mX2u10JMuWNhRQ4m+TvGsJezwCfSYXz umlOeFm0E7Rxqllw+AjpJBM= =BlzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
-Original Message- From: Pawe³ Madej [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2005 12:25 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to update,install or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you would need to do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that is better to let it do just when updating portage tree :) Holpe it helps, Allan Thx for fast answer. Ok I'll leave it as is, but maybe is there any way too speedup it? It runs on my P3 800 / HDD 5400 rpm more that 10 minutes. Or it is working on every computer so slowly? Be grateful you're not running my PIII 600MHz. If you also are running X with a browser, xmms, or mplayer and updatedb decides to join in, then 20 min to 1/2 hour is a possibility! I'll make a mental note to measure how long it takes next time I sync. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
Nick Rout wrote: portage knows where to download the files from, and you have told it where the best mirrors are for you, why second guess it! What I've made is download _only_ needed files. For this to work, I've had to remove path names (i.e. http://download.from.server.tld/path/to/filename.tgz becomes filename.tgz) for package in `cat packlist` ; do DISTDIR=/where/ever/i/want emerge --nodeps -f =$package; done This assumes _both_ machines have Gentoo _and_ exactly the same USE flags. --nodeps will make sure that your connected host doesn't substitute its own idea of what the deps are (perhaps based on different USE flags) In most cases, you will end with partially downloaded packages. In other words let your network connected host choose where to download from. My method, although not the best, works under Windows and other OSes too ;-) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Norberto -- Norberto Bensa 4544-9692 Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Thanks for the response..I will chek it out as soon as the emerge --update finishes it is taking forever to compile on my T20 (P-III 750) Regards, Vikram Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed. Chances are you have it, too.A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...thatgot X installed, then kde and xdm, etc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Dunc wrote: For something you should only do once a day, 10 minutes isn't that bad though. I sync not day by day but 2-3 times a week but when I sync I want to run just after it emerge of updates (I follow new ebuilds on [1] site and run emerge if sth interesting for me appears there). My other question is if there is some script which could follow rrs from [1] and run emerge sync and emerge -uND world after there is for example 10 ebuild updated comparing to my system, or other way that it will email me that there is 10 ebuilds new and i should run sync manually. Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
I forgot link [1] is http://packages.gentoo.org/archs/x86/testing/gentoo_simple.rss Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 07:30 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? Don't forget that portage keeps all downloaded source code in /usr/portage/distfiles. The actual portage tree totals something like 100 MB plus losses due to inode/block size. My workstation's portage directory is about 2.4 GB. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOpF0dY+HSb3praYRAtdSAJ9BttgwBNN37AAcQlaYnsIP7RJxIQCdEzVb llqzj1EiuuIAMc949zh+dAw= =Gn2k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
If you do a: du -hs /usr/portage/distfiles and a du -hs /usr/portage You will see that the majority of the space is taken up by the distfiles. This is where emerge stores all the packages that it downloads when installing them on your system. To decrease the size of the directory you can go through it and delete older versions of packages such as: I have: zlib-1.2.1.tar.bz2 zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 So you could delete zlib-1.2.1.tar.bz2 since there is a new version. I think there are some scripts out there that do such things but I havent bothered to find them. I wouldnt suggest deleting all the files since if you want to reinstall or add new packages they may require files that have been already downloaded ie: save you the time and bandwidth of redownloading them. Cheers Rav On 9/28/05, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs insize.Is this about normal?--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Xsetup
Rajat Gujral schreef: Sorry forgot to attach the log :(( Hi holly, uwe Thanx for ur replies ... I was actually trying to install my sound driver when emerge automatically downloaded the newer version of kernel i.e 2.6.12-r10 telling me it has a better support for sound cards.. After the newer version was downloaded in /usr/src/ , i did make menuconfig to configure the kernel and save the .config file. Then make make modules_install to compile the kernel. After that i compiled the kernel and copied it to the /boot directory. But forgot to update the grub.conf file ... When rebooted the system i tried to start the X server but it always shows the same message till now..I thought there maybe some problem with the newer version. Then i realize i havent updated the grub.conf file and this was my older version being loaded so* *i make the link linux point towards older version. When i do a uname -a it shows me the older version i.e 2.6.12-r6 of the kernel . OK, this is where I'm a little confused. Would you, first of all, do an emerge -pv gentoo-sources This will not do anything (since you're using the --pretend switch); what I want to know is whether the 'symlink' USE flag is active (+, red) or inactive (-, blue), which will be revealed by the --verbose switch. If it was active, then when you emerged the upgraded kernel, the /usr/src/linux link was automatically adjusted to point to the -r10 kernel just installed, but if the USE flag is inactive, the link remained pointing to the -r6 kernel previously existing (I assume; if the USE flag was never active, and you never manually redirected the links, then /usr/src/linux could still be pointing to the first kernel you installed, for all I know). However, the target for the /usr/src/linux symlink is not likely relevant for this issue. More of relevance is the directory listing of /boot. So could you, second of all 1) mount /boot (if not mounted, and did you remember to mount /boot before installing the new kernel?) 2) post the output of la /boot (or ls -la /boot if you don't have the 'la' alias, but afaik, it's a default alias for ls -la). Oh, wait you install your kernels manually, and don't use 'make install', right? Well, let's look at the output anyway, just to know what exactly is going on. Anyway, what you need to do in order to get grub to recognize your new kernel is not to change the 'linux' link in /usr/src, but to change or add an entry in grub.conf to point to the new kernel. For instance, here's my grub.conf: default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/grub-livecd2.xpm.gz title Gentoo_current (2.6.12-gentoo-r10) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro quiet root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=silent,fadein,theme:livecd-2005.1 CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Gentoo_prev (2.6.12-gentoo-r9) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz.old ro root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Failsafe_current root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] emergency title SUSE LINUX 9.3 root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11.4-20a-default real_root=/dev/hda6 vga=0x317 selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda6 showopts initrd /initrd-2.6.11.4-20a-default But I use 'make install' to install my kernels, so 'vmlinuz' and 'vmlinuz.old' are symlinks to my current and previous kernels, as you can see from the directory listing: # la /boot drwxr-xr-x 5 root root2048 sep 28 14:11 . drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 672 sep 14 14:06 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 apr 27 14:23 backup_mbr lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 apr 27 18:52 boot - . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 sep 15 23:35 config - config-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 60418 mrt 24 2005 config-2.6.11.4-20a-default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31914 sep 15 23:35 config-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32555 jul 24 02:08 config-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32009 aug 28 19:18 config-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 sep 28 14:10 config.old - config-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 aug 23 19:57 grub lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 apr 27 14:23 initrd - initrd-2.6.11.4-20a-default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1365529 apr 27 14:23 initrd-2.6.11.4-20a-default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 apr 29 00:47 .keep drwx-- 2 root root 12288 apr 27 14:13 lost+found -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 138240 apr 27 14:23 message -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 121 mrt 24 2005 README.vmlinux-2.6.11.4-20a-default.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 68372 mrt 24 2005 symvers-2.6.11.4-20a-i386-default.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 sep 15 23:35 System.map - System.map-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 708925 mrt 24 2005 System.map-2.6.11.4-20a-default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 924836 sep 15 23:35
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
And my /usr/portage/distfiles = 15Gb :) I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Paweł Madej schreef: My other question is if there is some script which could follow rrs from [1] and run emerge sync and emerge -uND world after there is for example 10 ebuild updated comparing to my system, or other way that it will email me that there is 10 ebuilds new and i should run sync manually. Well, esync might be what you want-- it's part of gentoolkit, and while it won't do any emerges for you, it will display (or mail you, which is how I do it) the list of updated packages for the day, with a note as to whether the package is an upgrade for your system, new to your system, or the like. Here's an example of the daily mail I get when I run esync as a cron job and mail myself the output:* Importing old portage tree * Doing '/usr/bin/emerge sync' now * Doing 'eupdatedb' now * esearch-index generated in 4 minute(s) and 23 second(s) * indexed 10357 ebuilds * size of esearch-index: 1618 kB * Importing new portage tree * Preparing databases * Searching for changes [ N] dev-ruby/activesupport (1.1.1-r1): Utility Classes and Extension to the Standard Library [MN] net-libs/aqbanking (1.6.0_beta): Generic Online Banking Interface [MN] media-sound/ardour (0.99): multi-track hard disk recording software [ N] mail-filter/clamsmtp (1.5): ClamSMTP is an SMTP filter that allows you to check for viruses using the ClamAV anti-virus software. [ N] dev-util/cmake (2.0.6-r1): Cross platform Make [ N] net-libs/cvm (0.32-r1): Credential Validation Modules by Bruce Guenter [ N] dev-java/dom4j (1.6.1): Easy to use, open source library for working with XML, XPath and XSLT on the Java platform using the Java Collections Framework and with full support for DOM, SAX and JAXP. [ N] net-mail/fetchyahoo (2.9.0): Perl script that downloads mail from a Yahoo! webmail account to a local mail spool, an mbox file, or to procmail. [ N] net-libs/libmonetra (4.2.2): library for connecting to a MCVE Credit Card Processing Daemon via SSL, TCP/IP, and drop-files. [ N] net-analyzer/libnasl (2.2.5): A remote security scanner for Linux (libnasl) [ U] www-client/mozilla-firefox (1.0.7-r1): Firefox Web Browser [ N] net-analyzer/nagios-core (1.2-r3): Nagios Core - Check daemon, CGIs, docs [ N] net-dns/ndu (0.4-r2): DNS serial number incrementer and reverse zone builder [ N] net-analyzer/nessus (2.2.5): A remote security scanner for Linux [ N] net-analyzer/nessus-core (2.2.5): A remote security scanner for Linux (nessus-core) [ N] net-analyzer/nessus-libraries (2.2.5): A remote security scanner for Linux (nessus-libraries) [ N] net-analyzer/nessus-plugins (2.2.5): A remote security scanner for Linux (nessus-plugins) [ N] mail-client/nmh (1.1-r1): New MH mail reader [MN] x11-misc/openclipart (0.17-r1): Open Clip Art Library (openclipart.org) [MN] app-office/qbankmanager (0.9.29): Onlinebanking frontend for aqbanking [MN] x11-misc/service-discovery-applet (0.1): Service Discovery Applet [MN] sys-block/unieject (5): Multiplatform command to eject and load CD-Rom drives [MN] media-libs/urt (3.1b): the Utah Raster Toolkit is a library for dealing with raster images [MN] sys-cluster/vzctl (2.7.0.21): OpenVZ VPS control utility [ N] x11-plugins/wmail (2.0-r2): Window Maker dock application showing incoming mail [ N] x11-plugins/wmlpq (0.2.1-r1): Windowmaker dockapp which monitors up to 5 printqueues [ N] x11-plugins/wmmenu (1.2-r1): WindowMaker DockApp: Provides a popup menu of icons like in AfterStep, as a dockable application. [ N] x11-plugins/wmnetload (1.3-r2): Network interface monitor dockapp The only upgrade (this is from the 27th), is firefox, but I might take a look at wmail. Nothing else interesting to me on this particular list. I suppose if you really felt that you wanted to have an emerge of the new packages done automatically, you could always create a script to run esync and mail you the output, then run emerge -uD world after esync completed successfully (doesn't seem much point in using --newuse if you're not going to be there to look at the output), but I prefer to do my emerges manually. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 21:49, Michael Kjorling wrote: Don't forget that portage keeps all downloaded source code in /usr/portage/distfiles. The actual portage tree totals something like 100 MB plus losses due to inode/block size. A couple of years ago it not much more than 100MB, but nowadays... /mnt/archive/gentoo $ du -sh * 750Mdistfiles 516Mrsync -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
And my /usr/portage/distfiles = 15Gb :) I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
Ryan Viljoen wrote: If you do a: du -hs /usr/portage/distfiles and a du -hs /usr/portage You will see that the majority of the space is taken up by the distfiles. This is where emerge stores all the packages that it downloads when installing them on your system. To decrease the size of the directory you can go through it and delete older versions of packages such as: I have: zlib-1.2.1.tar.bz2 zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 So you could delete zlib-1.2.1.tar.bz2 since there is a new version. I think there are some scripts out there that do such things but I havent bothered to find them. I wouldnt suggest deleting all the files since if you want to reinstall or add new packages they may require files that have been already downloaded ie: save you the time and bandwidth of redownloading them. if you use getdelta to fetch updates you can set REMOVE_OLD=true in /etc/deltup/getdelta.rc and it will delete old file as above zlib-1.2.1.tar.bz2 after successfull make of new version from patches. More about getdelta on [1] [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Deltup Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.13 is 10x slower than 2.6.12!
some time ago i had issue like yours that was caused by broken fonts configuration try this: boot without X launch top see anything taking resources launch X see anything taking resources look in logs m At 05:41 2005.09.27., you wrote: I just compiled 2.6.13-gentoo-r2 with mostly the same options as 2.6.12-gentoo-r7 (my reference point). The first time I booted, it took about 10-15 minutes on my 3GHz P4 laptop! I watched the gdm background slowly display over about 30 seconds. I thought it might have something to do with the new default timer frequency, which I set to 250Hz instead of 1000Hz (which is the default for pre 2.6.13 kernels). According to various online sites, 250Hz should still be just as usable, and may even use less power, increasing my battery performance... So I changed the timer frequency back to 1000Hz, recompiled and now it seems a little faster, but no where near 2.6.12. It now boots in maybe 5 minutes, and the gdm theme takes about 5s to display. glxgears (not maximised) gives me about 30 fps with a radeon 9700! I checked the frequency governor, and the default is still 'performance'. /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling shows the maximum frequency is active as per normal. Other kernel options I changed are: - support for software suspend added (could this be it? I definitely saw the message that no valid suspend was found in my swapfile, and /proc/swaps shows that I have swap enabled as per usual) - removed unnecessary SCSI drivers (I don't have anything SCSI) - removed SATA support (I definitely don't have SATA) Info: Dell Ispiron 9100, 3 GHz HT Pentium 4 2.6.12 and 2.6.13: SMP support for 2 processors included I've seen 1 post online about the same thing - slow running 2.6.13, so surely there must be some people in the world running it ok! Any help on this would be appreciated. TIA, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose if you really felt that you wanted to have an emerge of thenew packages done automatically, you could always create a script to run esync and mail you the output, then run emerge -uD world after esynccompleted successfully (doesn't seem much point in using --newuse ifyou're not going to be there to look at the output), but I prefer to do my emerges manually. I'm not really sure automating your updates like that is a really good idea especially in light of a few new package layouts that break things. Wouldn't that just bite, wake up and, oops the system's broken and I have no idea why. -Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 07:04, Michael Kjorling wrote: On 2005-09-28 06:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...that got X installed, then kde and xdm, etc. That's right. Since this was on a laptop, I emerged the PCMCIA tools, which has X tools. So X got emerged as a dependency because I did not explicitly disable it (and I wanted X, anyway). Yes, I guess I was unclear...my point was that it was not the stage3 install that installed x...it was an emerge of something that required x. When I emerged the pcmcia tools on THIS laptop, I did it with -X in the USE flags, so X wasn't emerged until the kde install. -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? I've had a lot of luck with the cdb patch for portage. It's mentioned in the gentoo wiki. I haven't measured to see how syncs are impacted but regular portage stuff seems faster. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
Harry Putnam wrote: I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? Just add a crontab entry to delete files older then, say, 30 days in /usr/portage/distfiles. I've noticed on ~x86 that there is often a number of portage changes on the same release for the first few days, so doing this daily is too much, but 15-30 days is about right. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
On 9/28/05, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed /usr/portage is standing at a little over 2 gigs in size. Is this about normal? glumtail [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can alway rm /usr/portage/distfiles/ Those files can be downloaded again when emerge. Yup, that turned out tobe 1.5 gigs of it... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:04:43 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Well, esync might be what you want-- it's part of gentoolkit, esync is part or esearch. If you prefer eix, it has an equivalent now, diff-eix. This is the script I run from cron.daily emerge world --update --deep --newuse --pretend --verbose | Mail -s Updated packages for $(hostname) neil glsa-check 2/dev/null --test all | Mail -s GLSA check on $(hostname) neil cp -f /var/cache/eix /var/cache/eix.old update-eix diff-eix /var/cache/eix.old | Mail -s New packages on $(hostname) neil emerge world --update --deep --newuse --fetchonly -- Neil Bothwick Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for. pgpTJ3SSxTaXG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Size of portage tree
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 14:43, glumtail wrote: You can alway rm /usr/portage/distfiles/ Those files can be downloaded again when emerge. Also, the block size of the file system in which /usr/portage lives can make a big difference. Try a clean /usr/portage on an ext2/3 filesystem vs. a /usr/portage on reiserfs and you'll see what I mean. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile ipw2100 against kernel 2.6.13
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 11:03:18AM +, John Green wrote: In detail, when /usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6 everything works OK. But when /usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2 there are errors beginning like this. - Source unpacked. * You may safely ignore any errors from compilation that contain * warnings about undefined references to the ieee80211 subsystem. * * Preparing ipw2100 module mkdir -p /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions cp /usr/include/*.mod /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions cp: cannot stat `/usr/include/*.mod': No such file or directory make: [modules] Error 1 (ignored) make -C /usr/src/linux M=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2 MODVERDIR=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/w make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2' CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.o /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c: In function `ipw2100_set_scan_options': /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:1584: error: structure has no member named `sec' /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:1584: error: structure has no member named `sec' /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c: In function `ipw2100_configure_security': /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:5103: error: structure has no member named `sec' /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:5108: error: structure has no member named `sec' hum, have you tried asking about on ipw2100.sourceforge.net? There's an IRC channel on freenode and they also have their own bug database you can search through. Maybe you will find something there? -- BTW, I am totally confused about in-kernel versus out-of-kernel software for Intel wireless and about the hardware/driver nomenclature. Here is the (possibly) relevant part of my kernel .config file. if I remember correctly, the ipw2?00 ebuilds checks for kernel options before emerging, so if it got to the compile phase it shouldn't be a problem with your kernel setup. Or at least a known problem. W -- Richard M. Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and Donald E. Knuth engage in a discussion on whose impact on the computerized world was the greatest. Stallman: God told me I have programmed the best editor in the world! Torvalds: Well, God told *me* that I have programmed the best operating system in the world! Knuth: Wait, wait - I never said that. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 47 days, 17:00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 14:43, glumtail wrote: You can alway rm /usr/portage/distfiles/ Those files can be downloaded again when emerge. Also, the block size of the file system in which /usr/portage lives can make a big difference. Try a clean /usr/portage on an ext2/3 filesystem vs. a /usr/portage on reiserfs and you'll see what I mean. I am using reiserfs but only on trial basis. I've noticed what appears to be quite a large increase in time needed for fs intensive things like du or rm -rf as compared to ext3 but I've done no real comparison testing. Have you noticed that too? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Dave Nebinger wrote: I've had a lot of luck with the cdb patch for portage. It's mentioned in the gentoo wiki. I haven't measured to see how syncs are impacted but regular portage stuff seems faster. That's what I was looking for ... great speedup. Thx Dave Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] keeping hosts file in sync
Hi, Whats the best way to keep several /etc/host files in sync ? TIA Patrick -- This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] keeping hosts file in sync
Whats the best way to keep several /etc/host files in sync ? The easiest way is not to bother. Use a local dns server to provide host lookups. I believe on the gentoo wiki you'll find a setup for a caching dns proxy where the most lookups will be forwarded to a regular dns but you can still provide local host lookups and reverse lookups. Works great for me and I don't have to worry about whatever /etc/hosts contains. Also ensures that new windows clients added to the network don't need their files updated, either. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Dave Nebinger schreef: It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? I've had a lot of luck with the cdb patch for portage. It's mentioned in the gentoo wiki. I haven't measured to see how syncs are impacted but regular portage stuff seems faster. This sounds quite interesting, but I can't find any mention of this patch on the Wiki, even after two searches on the Wiki and 3 on Google. I feel pretty dumb, since Paweł clearly found it easily, but I can't. Help...? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping hosts file in sync
Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Hi, Whats the best way to keep several /etc/host files in sync ? TIA Patrick This may be a little over kill but, I've found this project (www.cfengine.com) to be very cool. Cfengine has tons of functionality and managing config files across multiple systems just happens to be one of them. There is decent documentation on the site plus I've found some Debian based tutorials here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/223 , http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/224 , http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/225 . It's designed to help Admins manage a large number of Unix systems from a central location. Oh, and it's in portage too. byron -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 15:55, Harry Putnam wrote: Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 14:43, glumtail wrote: You can alway rm /usr/portage/distfiles/ Those files can be downloaded again when emerge. Also, the block size of the file system in which /usr/portage lives can make a big difference. Try a clean /usr/portage on an ext2/3 filesystem vs. a /usr/portage on reiserfs and you'll see what I mean. I am using reiserfs but only on trial basis. I've noticed what appears to be quite a large increase in time needed for fs intensive things like du or rm -rf as compared to ext3 but I've done no real comparison testing. Have you noticed that too? no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Dave Nebinger schreef: It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? I've had a lot of luck with the cdb patch for portage. It's mentioned in the gentoo wiki. I haven't measured to see how syncs are impacted but regular portage stuff seems faster. This sounds quite interesting, but I can't find any mention of this patch on the Wiki, even after two searches on the Wiki and 3 on Google. I feel pretty dumb, since Paweł clearly found it easily, but I can't. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 16:10, Holly Bostick wrote: Dave Nebinger schreef: It's very very slow and I dont know why. So my question is could I some way turn off this cache? I've had a lot of luck with the cdb patch for portage. It's mentioned in the gentoo wiki. I haven't measured to see how syncs are impacted but regular portage stuff seems faster. This sounds quite interesting, but I can't find any mention of this patch on the Wiki, even after two searches on the Wiki and 3 on Google. I feel pretty dumb, since Paweł clearly found it easily, but I can't. Help...? Its under tips and tricks portage. Just found it myself. HTH PS Hows the cold? -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
Tony Davison schreef: Its under tips and tricks portage. Just found it myself. HTH I was looking under How-Tos (and searching in the wiki/google for cdb patch). Weird that the wiki search engine didn't find it, though. Maybe I just didn't go through enough of the hits. PS Hows the cold? Better (I'm on the downslope from peak 'I can't sleep because I can't breathe laying down, do we have any more Vicks VapoRub?' miserableness), but clearly not back up to par :) . My bf wants me to go back to bed, but I'm too hardheaded to listen (since I do feel better, and I can get some minor maintenance done), sitting here with a pot of tea and a lot of tissues and not doing anything too stressful (meaning all my projects are backed up, including one 'official' and public one, dammit). Thanks for asking :) . And thanks for the link, everybody. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping hosts file in sync
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:33:54 +0200 (CEST), Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Whats the best way to keep several /etc/host files in sync ? The best way is usually to use only one hosts file. Providing your computers are networked, and one on them is on 24/7, install dnsmasq on this box and tell the others to use it as their DNS server. -- Neil Bothwick I work with User-Surly Software. pgpxnOv9QWmWP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping hosts file in sync
Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Hi, Whats the best way to keep several /etc/host files in sync ? TIA Patrick I got that problem few days ago and tried to install MyDNS [1] little dns server great for home network. It also has easy admin script written in PHP but it is not installed during emerge mydns. So you have to unpack package from distfiles and put it into your's apache documentroot. [1] http://mydns.bboy.net/ Greets Paweł -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 12:21, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. Any numbers you can post ? -- José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 no longer appearing but /dev/hdc is there...
Hi, This is udev stuff isn't it? The problem appeared after an emerge world - did I fail to edit a conf i needed to? I have had to change my fstab back to the old style... Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
Rumen Yotov wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:29:17 -0300 Jos__ Pablo Ezequiel Fern__ndez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 12:21, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. Any numbers you can post ? Hi, Some time ago there was such 'subject' with some data to confirm it. Now: #du -h --exclude=packages --exclude=distfiles /var/portage/ Result=434M. This is on reiserfs-3.6 with tail packing ON. Note: my portage directory is in /var not /usr Rumen confirmed: reiserfs = 434M ext3 = 516M having reiserfs = 100M : 100 -- 118.89 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird Buffer I/O error in dev ndb0
Phill MV wrote: Well, *something* is trying to access a function that doesnt exist in NDB; whether we know what it does or why, I'm guessing it's a behaviour that shouldn't happen :P. I suppose whatever tries to access NDB has a bug in it... but what would that be? Do you have lvm installed (/sbin/lvm)? If so, the Gentoo startup script /sbin/rc will try to execute it after starting udev to probe for physical volumes, volume groups, and logical volumes. The default configuration of lvm probes _all_ block devices, so this is a probable suspect. You can try adding a filter to /etc/lvm/lvm.conf in this case, like so: filter = [ r|/dev/nbd.*| ] As for whether it should or shouldn't happen, I am not sure. I don't know how common it is to use network block devices...it is definitely a high-end feature. I would guess that anyone using nbd would also be interested in using lvm, so it is probably more useful to have lvm probe these devices if they exist. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Reiserfs speed (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree)
Harry Putnam wrote: I am using reiserfs but only on trial basis. I've noticed what appears to be quite a large increase in time needed for fs intensive things like du or rm -rf as compared to ext3 but I've done no real comparison testing. Have you noticed that too? This is normal, and it's a feature. Reiserfs uses hash values to speed the lookup of single files, and as a result the readdir() system call in reiserfs (which is what find, rm -rf, and du use to walk a directory tree) returns file names in order of their hash value, which probably does not match the order of the files on disk. On the other hand, ext3 readdir() returns files in inode order. This means the disk will typically have to do more seeking for these operations on reiserfs than ext3, which returns file names in inode order. Actually, you can see similar performance differences between ext3 filesystems formatted with -O dir_index and those without. You can 'fix' this by tar'ing, reformatting, and restoring the filesystem, which will have the effect of ordering files on disk according to their hash value. Cheers, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Rumen Yotov wrote: Note: my portage directory is in /var not /usr Why? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 no longer appearing but /dev/hdc is there...
HI, I started a thread on this yesterday. It is apparently a planned change. The devs have apparently moved to a different naming structure now. - Mark On 9/28/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is udev stuff isn't it? The problem appeared after an emerge world - did I fail to edit a conf i needed to? I have had to change my fstab back to the old style... Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. I've been fighting with FVWM off and on for a while, and before I tried to go toe-to-toe with the giant, I had installed FVWM-Crystal (I'm a chicken). Which I thought was very pretty, but there was no config I could find to edit and no help (in English), and so I tried going toe-to-toe with the giant itself, which has never quite succeeded... ok, it's never succeeded at all, despite years of managing Litestep .rc files, which seem simple by comparison to fvwm2rc. And FVWM-Crystal, while it worked, didn't really work that well, and then the site (which had very little English help in the first place) tried to move to Berlios but instead went totally down So today, I was doing the previously mentioned 'minor maintenance' and emerge -uaDtv world wanted to reinstall python 2.3.5, which I didn't want it to do, because I find that slotting Python only causes me grief, and I want to just have 2.4.1 and migrate everything. So the reason was that I needed to upgrade pyxml which I had not unmasked to unstable, and in the course of checking what depended on pyxml that might also need to be upgraded, I found that most of the stuff I could unmerge (gdesklets and its desklets, which are also more trouble than they seem to be worth, ultimately), but it was also a dependency of fvwm-crystal-- which I didn't want to unmerge, and *had an unstable upgrade to 3.0-rc2*. I upgraded and just now booted into it, which is why I'm sitting with my jaw on the floor. It works...! It's gorgeous...! The new site is up, and it's in English...! (no docs yet, though, as far as I saw.) I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all transparent), and when I click on one of the icons-- let's say the OO.o icon, a menu that actually has all my word processing programs appears! The Firefox icon menu shows all my 'interact with the web' apps, and the thunderbird icon menu has all my 'communicate with others' programs. OK, maybe not quite all of them, but almost. More than enough to get along with and give me some choice (I have multiple alternatives applications for some types of usage situations), and enough to see that 1) both KDE and GNOME menu listings are being read, and 2) applications are being recognized and sorted reasonably appropriately. I probably will want to customize it a bit further, but on the whole, I would say it JustWorks-- it's certainly useable for me, as is, out of the box. Which is unbelievable, for any variant of FVWM, imo. This is a gigantic leap from the previous versions I've used, and I think I've just switched WMs. Obviously there's been a huge shakeup somewhere, but the site doesn't say anything about it, that I saw. Does anybody happen to follow development of this and know what happened? I'm just stunned (in a good way). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ccache taking way too long time
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Fernando Meira wrote: Hi, I been using ccache for sometime since its mail goal is to speedup common compiling sets. This is great when updating several packages. However, every time that a package is to be emerge/updated my system waits for ccache some long minutes. This happens twice, at the emerge start and end. For some small packages, it takes more time to handle ccache than compiling the package itself... so I wondering if this is normal, or it is something mis-configured? Here is how it looks: emerge (2 of 10) media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache Downloading ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/... (...) Completed installing cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 into /var/tmp/portage/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2/image/ Merging media-sound/cdparanoia-3.9.8-r2 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache (...) Fernando Hi, I also use ccache for a some time. I use $CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache/ ls -la /var/cache/ccache drwxrws--- 18 portage portage4096 Sep 25 16:29 . drwxr-xr-x 7 rootroot 4096 Oct 14 2004 .. drwxr-sr-x 18 portage portage4096 Oct 24 2004 0 drwxr-sr-x 18 portage portage4096 Oct 24 2004 1 drwxr-sr-x 18 portage portage4096 Oct 24 2004 2 snip My portage user is portage. I haven't got the mentioned problem. What are your settings? Cheers, Tamas Sarga Sárga Tamás -- Make the world confused!Zavard össze a világot! Smile on monday morning!Mosolyogj hétfő reggel! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Making A News Server
My ISP's news server (news.cableone.net) does not allow posting. I wanted to set up my own news server so that I could both get nntp/news data and post to newsgroups. I found a howto at www.tldp.org and have been following it. The howto said to open leafnode/config (I copied mine frim /etc/leafnode/config.example to /etc/leafnode/config) and set the server variable to be equal to my ISP's news server. Herein lies my problem. The comment in the file above the server variable assignment is: ## This is the NNTP server leafnode fetches its news from. ## You need read and post access to it. Mandatory. I don't have post access to news.cableone.net - That's why I'm doing this. Is there a way around this, or can anyone make suggestions for setting up a news server that can both read and post to Usenet groups? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 20:33, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. much snippage This is a gigantic leap from the previous versions I've used, and I think I've just switched WMs. Obviously there's been a huge shakeup somewhere, but the site doesn't say anything about it, that I saw. Does anybody happen to follow development of this and know what happened? I'm just stunned (in a good way). OK I'll bite but does anyone know how to get KDE to play nicely with it. I've b*d about with the ksmserver bit of startkde until I thoroughly broke it but when it aint broke it resolutely refuses to have anything to do with any wm apart fron kwin or KDEWM. Stumped, on my last cig and this wheelchair has no lights. -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:58:52 -0300
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Nick Rout wrote:
portage knows where to download the files from, and you have told it
where the best mirrors are for you, why second guess it!
What I've made is download _only_ needed files. For this to work, I've had to
remove path names (i.e. http://download.from.server.tld/path/to/filename.tgz
becomes filename.tgz)
for package in `cat packlist` ; do DISTDIR=/where/ever/i/want emerge
--nodeps -f =$package; done
This assumes _both_ machines have Gentoo _and_ exactly the same USE flags.
--nodeps will make sure that your connected host doesn't substitute its
own idea of what the deps are (perhaps based on different USE flags)
In most cases, you will end with partially downloaded packages.
No it won't, why do you say that (although please read below because I
realise that there is an error with my strtegy because of the possible
difference in USE flags)
In other words let your network connected host choose where to download
from.
My method, although not the best, works under Windows and other OSes too ;-)
That was not the question posed. The question assumed:
Machine A with updated portage and all updates emerged.
Machine B with poor network access, and its portage updated from Machine A
So both machines will have the same portage, but admittedly may not have
the same USE flags.
I think you are right in saying that the USE flag differences will cause
problems with my method. This is because:
1. Different USE flags may result in different dependencies for a given
package; and
2. Different USE flags may result in different download files even
within the same package.
OTOH your approach has problems in that not all files reside on gentoo
mirrors, some reside on sourceforge or other more obscure places.
IMHO my approach can be fixed by:
1. On machine B, as well as running:
emerge -uDp world|grep ebuild|awk '{print($4)}'packlist
also run:
emerge info|grep USE |cut -d\ -f2 B.uselist
2. On machine A, instead of running:
for package in `cat packlist` ; do DISTDIR=/where/ever/i/want
GENTOO_MIRRORS=local
/usr/portage/distfiles emerge --nodeps -f =$package; done
run:
for package in `cat packlist` ; do DISTDIR=/where/ever/i/want
GENTOO_MIRRORS=local
/usr/portage/distfiles USE=-* `cat B.uselist` emerge --nodeps -f
=$package; done
emerge will use the USE list from machine B, and will collect files
locally before grabbing them from the net.
Certainly, like most of linux, there is more than one way to do it. :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile ipw2100 against kernel 2.6.13
Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 11:03:18AM +, John Green wrote: In detail, when /usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.12.6 everything works OK. But when /usr/src/linux = /usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2 there are errors beginning like this. - Source unpacked. * You may safely ignore any errors from compilation that contain * warnings about undefined references to the ieee80211 subsystem. * * Preparing ipw2100 module mkdir -p /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions cp /usr/include/*.mod /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/tmp/.tmp_versions cp: cannot stat `/usr/include/*.mod': No such file or directory make: [modules] Error 1 (ignored) make -C /usr/src/linux M=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2 MODVERDIR=/var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/w make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.13.2' CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.o /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c: In function `ipw2100_set_scan_options': /var/tmp/portage/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1/work/ipw2100-1.1.2/ipw2100.c:1584: snip hum, have you tried asking about on ipw2100.sourceforge.net? There's an IRC channel on freenode and they also have their own bug database you can search through. Maybe you will find something there? Thanks for the tip. Their bug database did not help, so it was IRC or nothing. I'd been on IRC only once before, and that was two years ago... so this time I made notes on how to do it. Anyway, someone on freenode/#ipw2100 thought the problem might be with ieee80211. A detailed look at my log file for rebuilding ieee80211 under 2.6.13.2 showed that the ebuild tried to delete kernel file include/net/ieee80211.h, but failed with insufficient privilege, even though emerge was running as root. I deleted the kernel header file by hand and the ebuild for ipw2100 then ran successfully. Kernel 2.6.12.6 does not contain the file include/net/ieee80211.h, so the compilation error never happened with that kernel. Unfortunately, wireless would still not work under 2.6.13.2, despite many rebuilds in different orders and many reboots. I guess I'll stick with kernel 2.6.12.6 for now. If I ever do get wireless working under 2.6.13 or higher, I'll try to add a note to the Gentoo Wiki for ipw2100. (More learning and note-taking!) I use a script to detect errors in ebuild log files because the logs are usually too long to read. The script clearly needs an extra clause to highlight the phrase 'insufficient privilege'. John Green -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile ipw2100 against kernel 2.6.13
John Green wrote: the problem might be with ieee80211. A detailed look at my log file for rebuilding ieee80211 under 2.6.13.2 showed that the ebuild tried to delete kernel file include/net/ieee80211.h, but failed with insufficient privilege, even though emerge was running as root. I deleted the kernel header file by hand and the ebuild for ipw2100 then ran successfully. BTW, the current ~x86 version of the ipw2100 ebuild has a check for this, and if the file exists, it will prompt you to remove it and then fail the build. You might try: echo net-wireless/ipw2100 ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords emerge -Dv net-wireless/ipw2100 I'm using ipw2100-1.1.2-r3 with suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r4 without any significant problems. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. The only problem with this solution is you are then stuck using reiserfs... /fsflamewar :D -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] keyboard issues under KDE with the configuration ceter
Guntard wrote: I've installed KDE 3.4.1 which works perfectly except for this : in the configuration center, in the peripherical section I don't have the keyboard option although I have other options such as mouse option, or printer option. I think that I forgot to install a package, but I can't find which one it is. emerge kxkb Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Mark Knecht schreef: Hi Holly, I thought that if you liked it that much I thought I might as well take a look. I've emerged it. It's running. Nice. It seems to start esd by default. I'd need to turn that off. More embedded below and at the end. - Mark On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. SNIP I upgraded and just now booted into it, which is why I'm sitting with my jaw on the floor. Cover it if you're still spreading germs! ;-) It works...! It's gorgeous...! It's now running on my AMD64 machine and it is quite pretty. The new site is up, and it's in English...! (no docs yet, though, as far as I saw.) I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all transparent), and when I click on one of the icons-- let's say the OO.o icon, a menu that actually has all my word processing programs appears! The Firefox icon menu shows all my 'interact with the web' apps, and the thunderbird icon menu has all my 'communicate with others' programs. OK, maybe not quite all of them, but almost. More than enough to get along with and give me some choice (I have multiple alternatives applications for some types of usage situations), and enough to see that 1) both KDE and GNOME menu listings are being read, and 2) applications are being recognized and sorted reasonably appropriately. I probably will want to customize it a bit further, but on the whole, I would say it JustWorks-- it's certainly useable for me, as is, out of the box. Which is unbelievable, for any variant of FVWM, imo. I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's only been runnign 10 minutes or so. Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then Preferences=Used Recipe (layouts are now called Recipes) and choose Dock. Avoid Clean Vertical, as that seems to only use a pager, no menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change recipes again, since I haven't configured for just a term setup, and I don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup. I also changed the button layout to Windows-style-- one thing I never liked about Crystal was that you can't click the close button and just close the stupid program (without reconfiguring), and having to go through that ^%$#% menu to 'Iconify Close Destroy' was making me nuts. One thing I do not see is my special little application drawers I had on my Gnome panel. Not a biggie... I would imagine that you can create them if the provided drawers are not sufficient-- this is, after all, still FVWM. I just don't know how to do it yet, but the config seems like it might be more manageable than 'regular' FVWM, if the one file I've looked at is any indication. There were some setup instructions at the very end: * * After installation, execute following commands: * $ cp -r /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xresources ~/.Xresources * $ cp -r /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xsession ~/.xinitrc * * Authors of fvwm-crystal recommend also installing * the following applications: * app-admin/gkrellm * app-misc/rox * media-gfx/scrot * x11-misc/xlockmore * x11-misc/xpad * x11-misc/xscreensaver * x11-terms/aterm * How much of this did you do? I've done none and it's running. I didn't do any either-- I didn't even notice it, so thanks for the heads-up. I probably do want at least to copy .Xresources. Most of these applications I already have installed, and the ones I don't, I don't want. I actually don't want a couple of the ones I do have installed, notably rox, which I cannot find it in me to like. I will have a look at scrot, though-- don't know what it is, but media-gfx programs always bear further examination. Quite nice. I went back by the site, and it looks like its the same developer, he's just rewritten everything. His time has been well-spent. I'll have to drop him a note. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Tony Davison schreef: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 20:33, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. much snippage This is a gigantic leap from the previous versions I've used, and I think I've just switched WMs. Obviously there's been a huge shakeup somewhere, but the site doesn't say anything about it, that I saw. Does anybody happen to follow development of this and know what happened? I'm just stunned (in a good way). OK I'll bite but does anyone know how to get KDE to play nicely with it. I've b*d about with the ksmserver bit of startkde until I thoroughly broke it but when it aint broke it resolutely refuses to have anything to do with any wm apart fron kwin or KDEWM. Stumped, on my last cig and this wheelchair has no lights. Sorry-- that's one of the reasons I use GDM (even under KDE, but I use KDE very very rarely). What I would think is that you'd want to copy the fvwm-crystal.desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions to /usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/kdm/sessions so that it appears as a choice in KDM. Why you'd expect the *startkde* script to start anything other than KDE rather eludes me, I must admit. :) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
On Thursday 29 September 2005 00:32, Bryan Whitehead wrote: no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. The only problem with this solution is you are then stuck using reiserfs... /fsflamewar :D better than stuck with ext3 ;) http://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=OPENbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=ext3field0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=ext3field0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=ext3field0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=ext3 they are ALL buggy - choose your poison ;) I have choosen reiser, because space is important for me - and I have a nice tape-drive, which makes backup/restore very easy... but to be honest, I never had reiserfs-bugs.. only hardware errors... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Hi Holly, I thought that if you liked it that much I thought I might as well take a look. I've emerged it. It's running. Nice. It seems to start esd by default. I'd need to turn that off. More embedded below and at the end. - Mark On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor. SNIP I upgraded and just now booted into it, which is why I'm sitting with my jaw on the floor. Cover it if you're still spreading germs! ;-) It works...! It's gorgeous...! It's now running on my AMD64 machine and it is quite pretty. The new site is up, and it's in English...! (no docs yet, though, as far as I saw.) I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all transparent), and when I click on one of the icons-- let's say the OO.o icon, a menu that actually has all my word processing programs appears! The Firefox icon menu shows all my 'interact with the web' apps, and the thunderbird icon menu has all my 'communicate with others' programs. OK, maybe not quite all of them, but almost. More than enough to get along with and give me some choice (I have multiple alternatives applications for some types of usage situations), and enough to see that 1) both KDE and GNOME menu listings are being read, and 2) applications are being recognized and sorted reasonably appropriately. I probably will want to customize it a bit further, but on the whole, I would say it JustWorks-- it's certainly useable for me, as is, out of the box. Which is unbelievable, for any variant of FVWM, imo. I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's only been runnign 10 minutes or so. Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then Preferences=Used Recipe (layouts are now called Recipes) and choose Dock. Avoid Clean Vertical, as that seems to only use a pager, no menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change recipes again, since I haven't configured for just a term setup, and I don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup. OK, thanks. I selected Dock. It wants me to restart. Can I do this within FVWM without exiting? I think I could in fluxbox. Right now I'm running a very, very successful audio experiment. Been running Jack for about an hour. I have Aqualung hooked up and playing audio from a 1394 drive. At the same time I'm running xine and playing 'Panic Room'. So far not a single xrun in Jack, at least at 11mS. This has been a big problem for me in Gnome on AMD64. FVWM looks like it might be a better audio environment for me on this box. I also changed the button layout to Windows-style-- one thing I never liked about Crystal was that you can't click the close button and just close the stupid program (without reconfiguring), and having to go through that ^%$#% menu to 'Iconify Close Destroy' was making me nuts. I chose this also. I'm still having some trouble with raising windows to the top. I like to click anywhere within a window and it comes to the top. Also I like to use Alt-Tab to rotate. It seems to work most of the time but not always, at least so far. Minor annoyance as it's probably fixable. One thing I do not see is my special little application drawers I had on my Gnome panel. Not a biggie... I would imagine that you can create them if the provided drawers are not sufficient-- this is, after all, still FVWM. I just don't know how to do it yet, but the config seems like it might be more manageable than 'regular' FVWM, if the one file I've looked at is any indication. There were some setup instructions at the very end: * * After installation, execute following commands: * $ cp -r /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xresources ~/.Xresources * $ cp -r /usr/share/fvwm-crystal/addons/Xsession ~/.xinitrc * * Authors of fvwm-crystal recommend also installing * the following applications: * app-admin/gkrellm * app-misc/rox * media-gfx/scrot * x11-misc/xlockmore * x11-misc/xpad * x11-misc/xscreensaver * x11-terms/aterm * How much of this did you do? I've done none and it's running. I didn't do any either-- I didn't even notice it, so thanks for the heads-up. I probably do want at least to copy .Xresources. Most of these applications I already have installed, and the ones I don't, I don't want. I actually don't want a couple of the ones I do have installed, notably rox, which I cannot find it in me to like. I will have a look at scrot, though-- don't know what it is, but media-gfx programs always bear further examination. Yeah, I'll look at these later myself. Quite nice. I went back by the site, and it looks like its the same developer, he's just rewritten everything. His time has been well-spent. I'll have to drop him a note. Holly Send it from
[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
. . All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot --nodeps =app-arch/rpm-4.2 =app-pda/pilot-link-0.11.8 =app-te xt/openjade-1.3.2-r1 =app-text/uudeview-0.5.20 =dev-lang/lua-5.0.2 =dev-lang/py thon-2.2.3-r5 =dev-libs/libcdio-0.73 =dev-python/gnome-python-1.99.16 =gnome-ba se/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r2 =kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.5 =kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.3 =net-libs /gnutls-1.2.3 =x11-misc/xplanet-1.1.1 . 1.0.5-r2 =kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.5 =kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.3 =net-libs/gnutls-1.2.3 =x11-misc/xplanet-1.1.1Calculating dependencies - emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r5. . . Why is it trying to access an old version of python? I removed the /root/.revdep-rebuild*.?_* files, so that's not it. TIA -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all transparent) I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's only been runnign 10 minutes or so. Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then Preferences=Used Recipe (layouts are now called Recipes) and choose Dock. Avoid Clean Vertical, as that seems to only use a pager, no menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change recipes again, since I haven't configured for just a term setup, and I don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup. OK, thanks. I selected Dock. It wants me to restart. Can I do this within FVWM without exiting? Yes, restart is an internal command that just restarts fvwm without logging out or closing any open applications or anything like that. I assume if you chose 'not now' that it would change the setting in the config file, but not do anything until you logged out and back in, or used the internal restart command in the fvwm console, which I don't know how to access in Crystal (as opposed to 'regular' fvwm). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Size of portage tree
I've lost 5 filesystems on reiser... So I won't touch it anymore. :P :( I'm all XFS and so far have not many problems (with over 100 machines in production). My favorite part about XFS is snapshotting and a working dump command for mounted filesystems... On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Thursday 29 September 2005 00:32, Bryan Whitehead wrote: no, but I noticed, that reiserfs needs much less space with small files (like portage tree) than ext2/3. The only problem with this solution is you are then stuck using reiserfs... /fsflamewar :D better than stuck with ext3 ;) http://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=OPENbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=ext3field0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=ext3field0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=ext3field0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=ext3 they are ALL buggy - choose your poison ;) I have choosen reiser, because space is important for me - and I have a nice tape-drive, which makes backup/restore very easy... but to be honest, I never had reiserfs-bugs.. only hardware errors... -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Completely and totally OT] FVWM-Crystal...!!!
On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: On 9/28/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: I changed my layout to dock (which looks a lot like XFCE, but all transparent) I don't quite see this part. Maybe I haven't found them yet. It's only been runnign 10 minutes or so. Use the diamond icon in the upper right corner to get the menu, then Preferences=Used Recipe (layouts are now called Recipes) and choose Dock. Avoid Clean Vertical, as that seems to only use a pager, no menu, no panel, no taskbar-- and I had to edit a config file to change recipes again, since I haven't configured for just a term setup, and I don't know what term-based commands I have available to control this setup. OK, thanks. I selected Dock. It wants me to restart. Can I do this within FVWM without exiting? Yes, restart is an internal command that just restarts fvwm without logging out or closing any open applications or anything like that. I assume if you chose 'not now' that it would change the setting in the config file, but not do anything until you logged out and back in, or used the internal restart command in the fvwm console, which I don't know how to access in Crystal (as opposed to 'regular' fvwm). Holly Great. Tried it. It worked fine and didn't upset Jack which means my experiment goes on. This is working so much better for me than Gnome on my AMD64 box. I'll have to go back and try the standard Gentoo kernel instead of ck-sources. Thanks for turning me on to this WM and for your help. cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
Nick Rout wrote: OTOH your approach has problems in that not all files reside on gentoo mirrors, some reside on sourceforge or other more obscure places. Yup. I know. I did it that way because I used to have dialup (I'm on cablemodem now) and the only places I knew with broadband were using Windows, so I just made a: G: wget -i list.txt G: was my 1GB pendrive :-P run: for package in `cat packlist` ; do DISTDIR=/where/ever/i/want GENTOO_MIRRORS=local /usr/portage/distfiles USE=-* `cat B.uselist` emerge --nodeps -f =$package; done Good approach. I haven't tested but it should work. Certainly, like most of linux, there is more than one way to do it. :-) That's why I like Linux ;-) Best regards, Norberto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 03:55:47PM -0700, Wes Gray wrote: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r5. . . Why is it trying to access an old version of python? I removed the /root/.revdep-rebuild*.?_* files, so that's not it. Not an old version, but the current version as installed on your machine. You probably have not updated python for a while. If you want to keep using the 2.2.3 branch of python, go ahead and do emerge --oneshot =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r6 if you run revdev-rebuild afterwards, it shouldn't rebuild python. If you don't insist on using 2.2.x of python, you can just emerge --oneshot --update python W -- A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two-tired. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 48 days, 2:25 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.13 is 10x slower than 2.6.12!
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 16:16 +0300, Martins wrote: some time ago i had issue like yours that was caused by broken fonts configuration try this: boot without X launch top see anything taking resources launch X see anything taking resources thanks for the suggestion, but it definitely wasn't anything to do with X. The slowness started from the very beginning of boot, right from when the kernel was loaded. All the services and loading of modules took a Very Long Time! I did infact look at top, but the system was mostly idle. This is what made me think it was a kernel issue. Plus, my fans weren't running, as they would be if there was something taking up cpu resources. look in logs I didn't think of that!! Maybe there's something in dmesg that will give me a clue... Thanks, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] apache2 logs not rotating, is that metalog's job or logrotate?
I notice my /var/log/apache2 dir has some very large files, hence I don't think they are being rotated. I looked at /etc/metalog/metalog.conf and don't see anything related to apache in there -- should there be? Or am I supposed to install app-admin/logrotate to handle this? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
Here's another way I started using (~1 month) and it seems both simple and problem free. Run http-replicator on the machine with good net access, then point the rest at it. Its a distfile caching proxy and best of all, its in potage and there is a gentoo wiki doc on how to set it up. Nice! BillK * net-proxy/http-replicator Latest version available: 3.0 Latest version installed: 3.0 Size of downloaded files: 19 kB Homepage:http://gertjan.freezope.org/replicator/ Description: Proxy cache for Gentoo packages License: GPL-2 On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 20:22 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Nick Rout wrote: OTOH your approach has problems in that not all files reside on gentoo ... Certainly, like most of linux, there is more than one way to do it. :-) That's why I like Linux ;-) Best regards, Norberto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:57:57 +0800 W.Kenworthy wrote: Here's another way I started using (~1 month) and it seems both simple and problem free. Run http-replicator on the machine with good net access, then point the rest at it. Its a distfile caching proxy and best of all, its in potage and there is a gentoo wiki doc on how to set it up. Nice! Yes a good setup if there is fast and easy access between the two machines. Sorry how does this help the OP who has a machine at home on dialup and a fast connection at work? (and who doesn't want to download from home if he can help it?) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help with an IBM 3791 modem
Hi all I am having trouble with one isa pnp modem; I installed isapnp, the tcpdump program has generated the isapnp.conf, I remove the comment mark from the lines that are related with the modem, when I run isapnp isapnp.conf It loads and enable the modem at address 0x110 and IRQ 7, then I tried to run wvdialconf and it didn´t find anything :( what have I miss PS my modem is an IBM 3791 isa modem. thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pratical question about portage tree
Not a lot: I came in late on the thread. One thing to investigate is if his ISP keeps a local cache of gentoo as many of the ones in Oz do - they usually dont charge for local (to the ISP) traffic. Then unless its openoffice which is a bit big, a pre-fetch from the ISP at night is a good scenario. BillK On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 13:27 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:57:57 +0800 W.Kenworthy wrote: Here's another way I started using (~1 month) and it seems both simple and problem free. Run http-replicator on the machine with good net access, then point the rest at it. Its a distfile caching proxy and best of all, its in potage and there is a gentoo wiki doc on how to set it up. Nice! Yes a good setup if there is fast and easy access between the two machines. Sorry how does this help the OP who has a machine at home on dialup and a fast connection at work? (and who doesn't want to download from home if he can help it?) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 07:25:44PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 03:55:47PM -0700, Wes Gray wrote: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r5. . . Why is it trying to access an old version of python? I removed the /root/.revdep-rebuild*.?_* files, so that's not it. Not an old version, but the current version as installed on your machine. You probably have not updated python for a while. If you want to keep using the 2.2.3 branch of python, go ahead and do emerge --oneshot =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r6 if you run revdev-rebuild afterwards, it shouldn't rebuild python. If you don't insist on using 2.2.x of python, you can just emerge --oneshot --update python I have a newer version of python already. The one revdep-rebuild is trying to access doesn't even exist in portage. For example, I tried your suggestion: # emerge --oneshot --update python Calculating dependencies ...done! Auto-cleaning packages ... No outdated packages were found on your system. # emerge -p python These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r2 I'm at 2.3.5-r2, so I trying to figure out why revdep-rebuild is referencing 2.2.3-r5. That is my question. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Am Mittwoch, den 28.09.2005, 14:46 +0530 schrieb vikram ranade: Hello all, hi! I am very new to gentoo (used to use Red Hat earlier) I have installed gentoo using the networkless install with the 2005.1 universal CD. I have got the system booting perfectly and detecting all the hardware as well. I got the network connection working and now I am running #emerge --update --deep world to get the latest version of the system. My question is .. Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) probably not. how do i start X? log into the console and type startx. How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) if X is not installed, type emerge xorg-x11. for gnome the same, emerge gnome. theres are some cool gtk-frontends out to emerge, my favorite is portage ;). check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml and http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page and, for sure, the emerge-manpage and the mailing-list archive for help on installing software and managing gentoo. Thanks! Best regards, Vikram no problem. josef -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:13:58PM -0700, Wes Gray wrote: I have a newer version of python already. The one revdep-rebuild is trying to access doesn't even exist in portage. For example, I tried your suggestion: # emerge --oneshot --update python Calculating dependencies ...done! Auto-cleaning packages ... No outdated packages were found on your system. # emerge -p python These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r2 I'm at 2.3.5-r2, so I trying to figure out why revdep-rebuild is referencing 2.2.3-r5. That is my question. IIRC, python is slotted. Run equery list -i python, you will see 2.2.3-r5 installed. Though I am pretty sure you won't need it (according to the ewarn in the 2.3.5-r2 ebuild, if you run portage 2.0.49 and below you will need python 2.2, otherwise, you should be able to just run /usr/sbin/python-updater to rebuild all python packages for the 2.3 branch and unmerge 2.2.3-r5). If you are not sure whether you can safely upgrade to python 2.3, run emerge --oneshot =dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r6 to update to the latest stable python 2.2. W -- Here, we have a charge conducting potato. ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM, P-town PHY 304 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 48 days, 6:32 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] What /devTTY? is the modem normally under?
Hi again. I installed slmodem but it's looking for /dev/ttySL0. Presumably I need to create this manually. Can anyone tell me what command I should use to create this. Thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 28/09/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:12, Paweł Madej wrote:
Dunc wrote:
For something you should only do once a day, 10 minutes isn't that bad
though.
I sync not day by day but 2-3 times a week but when I sync I want to run
just after it emerge of updates (I follow new ebuilds on [1] site and
run emerge if sth interesting for me appears there).
My other question is if there is some script which could follow rrs from
[1] and run emerge sync and emerge -uND world after there is for example
10 ebuild updated comparing to my system, or other way that it will
email me that there is 10 ebuilds new and i should run sync manually.
Greets
Paweł
I second esync. It is a nice script that runs a little faster than 'emerge
sync'. I have a little script in my daily cron list that follows...
#! /bin/sh
# /etc/cron.daily/esync.automated
#
# Based on rkhunter script by Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Written by Glenn Enright on 14-Oct-2004
#
# Purpose
# To provide a facility to regularly update the portage tree via cron so we
# don't have to remember to do it manually, and send us a list of updates to
# consider.
#
# Requires
# portage to be properly installed. see 'man emerge' for details
# esearch: do 'emerge esearch'
#
# CHANGELOG:
# 19-Oct-2004 - updated to use tool esearch. Improved speed and
# feedback.
# 29-Sep-2005 - Reviewed code and did some tidying up. Changed file
# group to wheel to allow easier administration.
#
#
# ENABLEMENT OPTIONS
# set to no if you don't want to run this script
#
ENABLE=yes
# set to 'yes' if you wish the output to be mailed to you
#
SEND_EMAIL=yes
#
# OPERATIONAL COMMANDS
# main command
# fixme: is nice needed with 2.6 kernel?
CMD=nice esync --nocolor --nospinner
# NOTE: the rest of these options are only relevant
# if you set SEND_EMAIL to 'yes'
#
EMAIL_SUBJECT=${HOSTNAME}: 'esync' output
EMAIL_RECIPIENT=root
EMAIL_CMD=| mail -s \${EMAIL_SUBJECT}\ ${EMAIL_RECIPIENT}
#
if [ ${ENABLE} = yes ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/emerge ]; then
#---
# test to see if we want to send success/failure email
#
if [ ${SEND_EMAIL} = yes ]; then
CMD=${CMD} ${EMAIL_CMD}
else
CMD=${CMD} /dev/null
fi
# --
# --
# check to see if emerge is already running so
# we dont interupt it. fail gracefully if it is
#
if [ ! ps -ax | grep -c emerge ]; then
# NB: the following text is formated from the margin.
MAIL_WARN_MESSAGE=echo -e ' ** WARNING ** : The program 'emerge' is
currently running. Please wait for the next scheduled update or run esync
manually.'
eval exec ${MAIL_WARN_MESSAGE} ${EMAIL_CMD}
else
# actually do the thing
eval exec ${CMD}
fi
# -
fi
fi
# EOF
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Aware, like a fox crossing the water. Alert, like a general on the
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[gentoo-user] How to apply a patch to an ebuild?
Howdy, With Holly's praise of fvwm-crystal I thought I'd give it a try. But then I hit bug 89594 with aumix. The sound team provided a patch, aumix-2.8-autoconf.patch, which will create the two missing config files (they didn't fix the ebuild because it works on their systems). Now I'm trying to figure out what is the proper way to use this patch? Any pointers? I'm guessing I need to dup the ebuild in my local portage, create a new md5 digest, then emerge aumix. TIA, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What /devTTY? is the modem normally under?
In addition to what everyone else has mentioned. External modems work on /dev/ttyS0../dev/ttyS3 (DOS COM1:..COM4:). Internal PCI modems work on /dev/ttyS4 or higher. Some kernels default to only supporting the 4 external ports, and internal PCI modems won't run. To support internal PCI modems, go into make menuconfig... Device Drivers --- Character devices --- Serial drivers --- * 8250/16550 and compatible serial support (5) Maximum number of non-legacy 8250/16550 serial ports The (5) allows for 1 PCI modem. If you have 2 PCI modems, you need to set the number of ports to at least (6), etc. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to apply a patch to an ebuild?
Roy Wright schreef:
Howdy,
With Holly's praise of fvwm-crystal I thought I'd give it a try. But
then I hit bug 89594 with aumix. The sound team provided a patch,
aumix-2.8-autoconf.patch, which will create the two missing config
files (they didn't fix the ebuild because it works on their systems).
Now I'm trying to figure out what is the proper way to use this
patch? Any pointers?
I'm guessing I need to dup the ebuild in my local portage, create a
new md5 digest, then emerge aumix.
TIA, Roy
That's almost it--
1) copy the ebuild and /files folder to your overlay
(/usr/local/portage/media-sound/aumix/, assuming that your
PORTDIR_OVERLAY is /usr/local/portage);
2) copy the patch to the /files folder in the overlay folder with the
other aumix patches;
3) edit the following section of the overlay ebuild copy:
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd ${S}
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nohome.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-close-dialogs.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-save_load.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nls.patch
to
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd ${S}
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nohome.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-close-dialogs.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-save_load.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-nls.patch
== epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-autoconf.patch
Save (of course), redigest (ebuild
/usr/local/portage/media-sound/aumix/aumix-2.8-r2.ebuild digest), emerge.
Hope this helps,
Holly
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