[gentoo-user] two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
I have a two-screen setup with X. Also, in addition to my usual keyboard and mouse, I have a cordless keyboard and mouse combo thingee. At the moment both keyboards work fine, and both mouses control the same pointer. It occurred to me that it would be very cool to be able to have one keyboard and mouse controlling a pointer on one of the monitors, and the other keyboard and mouse controlling the *other* monitor. Is this crazy talk? How can we make this happen? Thanks! Tom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
it is definately do-ablei remember reading about this guy who did this so that his g/f could use the comp at the same time.. have to dig out the article. Vikram RanadeOn 1/7/06, Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a two-screen setup with X.Also, in addition to my usual keyboard and mouse, I have a cordlesskeyboard and mouse combo thingee.At the moment both keyboards workfine, and both mouses control the same pointer. It occurred to me that it would be very cool to be able to have onekeyboard and mouse controlling a pointer on one of the monitors, and theother keyboard and mouse controlling the *other* monitor.Is this crazy talk? How can we make this happen?Thanks!Tom--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] KDE/CUPS and toner density
Hi! The problem is: I have Xerox Phaser 3120 printer (which, I think, is the same as Samsung ML-1710). I have tried to play with 'toner density' driver property under the 'Printer Manager' - 'printer context menu' - 'Configure'. I have not noticed any difference between '1' and '5' density. The aim is to set max possible density. Have you some tips here? Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
vikram ranade wrote: it is definately do-ablei remember reading about this guy who did this so that his g/f could use the comp at the same time.. have to dig out the article. Vikram Ranade Funny you should mention that that's the exact use-case on my mind :-) Let me know if you can find the article, or point me in a direction where I can hunt for it. I'm going to have a play around tomorrow and see if I can get something to work. Thanks! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:53, Tom Eastman wrote: I have a two-screen setup with X. Also, in addition to my usual keyboard and mouse, I have a cordless keyboard and mouse combo thingee. At the moment both keyboards work fine, and both mouses control the same pointer. It occurred to me that it would be very cool to be able to have one keyboard and mouse controlling a pointer on one of the monitors, and the other keyboard and mouse controlling the *other* monitor. I don't know where I read this discussion but I totally agree that doing this kind of a thing is really cool. Here is the link to do the same http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/ I can't try it since I don't have two of everything but would love to know how it turns out for you. Do tell us whether you succeed or not ;) Regards, Abhay pgpviQ0TAT1DU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE/CUPS and toner density
On Saturday 07 January 2006 15:53, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: The problem is: I have Xerox Phaser 3120 printer (which, I think, is the same as Samsung ML-1710). I have tried to play with 'toner density' driver property under the 'Printer Manager' - 'printer context menu' - 'Configure'. I have not noticed any difference between '1' and '5' density. The aim is to set max possible density. Try configuring it directly from CUPS (localhost:631) I once tried configuring my deskjet from both KDE and OOo but it didn't work. Then I configured it through CUPS and settings do work now. Regards, Abhay pgpOzqsTEfmW5.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] cups problem-like ...
Hi list, i'm experiencing strange cups behaviour: i'm accessing the cupsd setting both via web interface (localhost:631) or via the KDE printer control modue. However since two days i'm experiencing long load time of the all stuff: every action i'm trying to execute nearly 10 seconds are needed for the program to accomplish. If i'm using the KDE control modules nearly every time the module stops and i have to kill the kcontrol program. What can be the cause of this behaviour? Secondly i've tried to add some local udev rules as a file called 10-local.rules. Even if i'm not touching anything related to the printers, if i use this file together with the 50-udev.rules standard file (not touched) in the KDE control module i'm not getting any of the standard icons (Print tp File (PDF), Print to File (PostScript) and so on...) Thank you for your help, MC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xcompmgr?
On Friday 06 January 2006 17:03, Kenton Groombridge wrote: Michael W. Holdeman wrote: kompmgr works OK here, but I do find there are some quirks, but I can run GLX programs with kompmgr and nothing crashes. Ken is this with nvidia? Loading glx. is it REALLY SLOW? send me your xorg.conf offlist? Mike I have a BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC. Pretty beefy card, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but it runs quite fast and is very usable. I put my xorg.conf in my webstorage. Here is a link: http://webpages.charter.net/kgroombr/xorg.conf Good luck, Ken Thanks Ken, I pasted your options into my xorg.config file and it works great! The only thing in can figure is I must have had some silly syntax error or something. Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] (Late) bugday announcement
Hi all. Sorry about the late announcement but today is the monthly Bugday :) I hope we'll still see a lot of people turning up in #gentoo-bugs on irc.freenode.net to help squash some bugs and have a fun time with other gentoo users and/or devs. Regards, Bryan Østergaard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help setting up eix!
Rumen Yotov schreef: On (06/01/06 23:51), Lares Moreau wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 20:01 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: Yes. Here was the output: camille ~ # update-eix Reading Portage settings .. Building database (/var/cache/eix) from scratch .. [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: cdb) Reading 100% [1] /usr/local/portage (cache: none) Reading 100% Applying masks .. Database contains 0 packages in 145 categories. NOTE 0 packages.. Permissions issue? -- Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E Hi, Think the issue was solver, after a mail from Holly, no? Must remove/backup /etc/eixrc or comment the line enabling 'cdb' module. Currently it's using a 'cdb' as cache storage. But portage is *not* using 'cdb'. HTH.Rumen Oh, wait-- I was going to say that I didn't say that (I didn't really say anything, I thought), but in fact it turns out I did, in a roundabout way (and you helped me, Lares, by clarifying it so that I could solve my own eix problem). When you wrote your mail, I had eix working, but I had noticed earlier yesterday (before your mail and my reply) that all packages available were not being displayed-- most notably gentoo-sources packages, where I knew 2.6.14-r7 and 2.6.15 to be available, but they would not come up under an eix search, no matter what I did. I also noticed that update-eix was saying that it was using cdb, which I thought was weird because I thought I had disabled it. In fact, I had commented out the lines in /etc/portage/modules, but due to your mail, I realized that that only affected Portage, and that eix had its own setting to use cdb (in /etc/eixrc and ~/.eixrc). Once I deleted those, eix stopped using cdb to cache its entries, and the all current packages were shown. So I was right, in that the problem was cdb (I suppose that since I had a database before I started using cdb, it just wasn't getting further updated, but since you didn't have a database at all, it just wasn't getting populated), but you were the one who actually figured out how to disable it. Credit where credit is due-- thanks!! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
Yupi did some googleing as well...that was the dude.! http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/it definately works...i remember the guy had also posted pics of his setup. It Vikram On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:53, Tom Eastman wrote: I have a two-screen setup with X. Also, in addition to my usual keyboard and mouse, I have a cordless keyboard and mouse combo thingee.At the moment both keyboards work fine, and both mouses control the same pointer. It occurred to me that it would be very cool to be able to have one keyboard and mouse controlling a pointer on one of the monitors, and the other keyboard and mouse controlling the *other* monitor.I don't know where I read this discussion but I totally agree that doing thiskind of a thing is really cool. Here is the link to do the same http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/I can't try it since I don't have two of everything but would love to know howit turns out for you. Do tell us whether you succeed or not ;) Regards,Abhay
Re: [gentoo-user] two keyboards, two mouses, two monitors, one computer?
Sorry! here is the guy with the computer sharing g/f! http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/multiuser/g450.html another link http://cs.senecac.on.ca/~ctyler/ruby/On 1/7/06, vikram ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yupi did some googleing as well...that was the dude.! http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/it definately works...i remember the guy had also posted pics of his setup. It Vikram On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:53, Tom Eastman wrote: I have a two-screen setup with X. Also, in addition to my usual keyboard and mouse, I have a cordless keyboard and mouse combo thingee.At the moment both keyboards work fine, and both mouses control the same pointer. It occurred to me that it would be very cool to be able to have one keyboard and mouse controlling a pointer on one of the monitors, and the other keyboard and mouse controlling the *other* monitor.I don't know where I read this discussion but I totally agree that doing thiskind of a thing is really cool. Here is the link to do the same http://disjunkt.com/dualhead/I can't try it since I don't have two of everything but would love to know how it turns out for you. Do tell us whether you succeed or not ;) Regards,Abhay
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Trenton Adams schreef:
Oops, forgot to reply to everything.
On 1/6/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trenton Adams schreef:
On 1/5/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:32:20 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote:
something like
if_blocked_by('openmotif') ewarn You must unmerge
openmotif before proceeding
Yes, or as follows...
if_blocked_by('openmotif') auto_unmerge('openmotif') #
continue with merge which should automatically be merging
openmotif anyhow.
Absolutely not! I don't want portage removing something I may
be using at the time without my saying so.
Good point. Perhaps it should ask then?
Well, it does, by stopping and waiting for you to perform an action
and either restart the stopped process (if the action you took was
to unmerge the blocking package), or to forego the stopped process
entirely, if you choose not to remove the blocked package because
you want to keep it for whatever reason (it could happen).
You're assuming that unmerging the blocking package is *always* the
right solution for everyone at all times (in this case, it's not
really relevant, since motif-config will itself re-install
openmotif), but the point of Gentoo is that you are in control. If
I am in control, then I have to decide what I want done in each
particular situation that occurs, which is exactly what I have to
do with the current setup-- very obviously, since Portage will stop
until I make a decision and act on it. So fine, your new updated
Portage informs me there's a block, and says, I could do this to
solve it, shall I? I myself am going to say no, because I want
to know the nature of the block, and how Portage's proposed action
is going to affect the system that I have carefully customized to
my individual needs.
Yes, flexibility is GREAT. That's one reason I really like gentoo,
and linux in general. However, I also like simplicity, or should I
say, I like to have the choice. So, one could easily make gentoo
have auto-detect and handle features, while allowing configuration
changes that disable automatic behaviour. You could have individual
enable/disable options for each feature, as well as one global
feature than enables/disables all auto-detect features. Then you
could have include/excludes for each feature so that the global would
not override them.
So, the bottom line is this, one person says that things are
difficult because they need to be, in order to be flexible. But I
say that if things are truly flexible, then it should also be
possible to make them automatic, or simple. That's what I call
ULTIMATE flexiblity, which is what I mentioned in another post that I
made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part
about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing
things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also
want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and
RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well.
Well, if this is your opinion, I must then accept the burden of being
one of those members of the Linux community you mention
Trenton Adams schreef:
Yes, and I've noticed there's a big problem with the linux community
at large. People that know and understand linux have a lot of the
times not helped the open source intiative, in that they like
things to be difficult,
Although this is not strictly true I don't *like* things to be
difficult, /per se/ but I do tend to do things the hard way rather
than the easy way
because it makes them somehow seem smarter. In all reality, it
doesn't take a genius to use linux, just someone who likes to read a
whole lot.
I do like to read a whole lot (always have), and I don't so much care
how smart anyone thinks I am, but if I am in any way smart, I do want
that to be recognized, which is a different thing.
But if you leave out the rather insulting insinuation that such users
are not in fact smart, but ego-trippers who just have nothing to do but
read dry technical texts that no normal person would ever bother with,
I'll cop to the charge.
The thing is, I prefer things to be slightly more difficult because I
believe that people using advanced tools should have a clue about how
they work and how to use them properly.
As I have said before, and will likely say again in the future, I
believe that a policy of providing advanced technology, dumbed-down so
that it Just Works to the unwashed masses (let us say, my
boyfriend's grandmother, who is a very nice lady, or my aunt, or his
mother, who are of an age and about the same level of computer expertise
and interest-- which is to say, none, although my bf's mother has now
had a computer forced on her), is dangerously unwise.
We have seen the results of doing so in both large and small ways, yet
we persist. I believe that advanced technology should be sufficiently
difficult to use until such time
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers can work with 2.6.15!
Iain Buchanan schreef: Hi all, Instead of a question this time, I have an answer! If you're trying to get ati-drivers (fglrx) to load with linux-2.6.15 its simple! (Given the error you get is undefined symbol: pm_register or something similar). The solution is to simply: when configuring your kernel, under Power management options (ACPI, APM) turn on Legacy Power Management API (PM_LEGACY). Then recompile the kernel (recompiling modules should not be necessary) and re-boot to this new kernel. Now, for me at least, ati-drivers-8.20.8 loads fine! HTH, Thanks, Iain, this made my upgrade to 2.6.15 go without a hitch. You saved me some time on the Rage3D forums (where I would have also found this information, but I didn't have to go there to look because you passed it on first). If you hadn't mentioned, I would probably have masked the kernel upgrades until a new ATI driver release. Appreciate the heads-up :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Hey ho, all-- (I think that) Ever since I downgraded Xorg from 6.8.99 back to 6.8.2-r6 a couple of days ago, I've had reports from both etc-update and cfg-update that there are 30 files needing to be updated (etc-update reports them as being in /usr/lib/X11/xkb sometimes, but not always). The problem is, these files do not exist, or rather are not found when I then run the relevant utility: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 326 info files. * IMPORTANT: 3 config files in /etc need updating. * IMPORTANT: 30 config files in /usr/lib/X11/xkb need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. za 01/07/06 13:58 za 01/07/06 14:07 motub - etc-update Scanning Configuration files... Automerging trivial changes in: filesystems Automerging trivial changes in: net.example The following is the list of files which need updating, each configuration file is followed by a list of possible replacement files. 1) /etc/conf.d/rc /etc/conf.d/._cfg_rc Please select a file to edit by entering the corresponding number. (don't use -3 or -5 if you're unsure what to do) (-1 to exit) (-3 to auto merge all remaining files) (-5 to auto-merge AND not use 'mv -i'): As you see, only three files (the files adjusted by the emerge -uaDtv world which this report completed) appear. The same thing happens with cfg-update: za 01/07/06 14:11 motub - emerge -pv easytag cfg-update 1.8.0 : Building checksum index... canceled! 30 config file updates found... Please run cfg-update -u to update your config files! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/easytag-1.99.11 [1.99.10] +aac* +flac +mp3 +nls +vorbis 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - cfg-update -u All files have been updated, done... za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - emerge -pv easytag cfg-update 1.8.0 : Building checksum index... canceled! 30 config file updates found... Please run cfg-update -u to update your config files! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/easytag-1.99.11 [1.99.10] +aac* +flac +mp3 +nls +vorbis 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB The thing is, I cannot find the relevant files in the first place (which may itself be the problem): za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - la /usr/lib/X11/xkb totaal 968 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1120 jan 3 13:58 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root776 jan 3 14:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7448 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23337 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_README.enhancing -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179416 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_xkbcomp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root568 jan 3 13:58 compat -r--r--r-- 1 root root689 jan 3 13:57 compat.dir lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 jan 3 13:58 compiled - ../../../../var/lib/xkb drwxr-xr-x 5 root root584 apr 28 2005 geometry -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1965 jan 3 13:57 geometry.dir drwxr-xr-x 4 root root544 jan 3 13:58 keycodes -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2283 jan 3 13:57 keycodes.dir drwxr-xr-x 5 root root296 apr 28 2005 keymap -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8576 jan 3 13:57 keymap.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root689 jun 3 2005 ._new-cfg_compat.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7372 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23258 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_README.enhancing -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27683 jun 3 2005 ._new-cfg_symbols.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_xkbcomp -r--r--r-- 1 root root729 jun 3 2005 ._old-cfg_compat.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7448 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23337 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_README.enhancing -r--r--r-- 1 root root 31182 jun 3 2005 ._old-cfg_symbols.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_xkbcomp -r--r--r-- 1 root root983 jan 3 13:57 README -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7372 nov 14 17:10 README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23258 nov 14 17:10 README.enhancing drwxr-xr-x 2 root root512 jan 3 13:58 rules drwxr-xr-x 2 root root144 apr 28 2005 semantics drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4264 jan 3 13:58 symbols -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27683 jan 3 13:57 symbols.dir drwxr-xr-x 2 root root296 apr 28 2005 types -r--r--r-- 1 root root463 jan 3 13:57 types.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 17:10 xkbcomp I don't see 30 relevant files to be updated, so I don't even know what the update
Re: [gentoo-user] Kate doesn't reuse existing process anymore with kde 3.5.0?
On Friday 06 January 2006 19:24, Petteri Räty wrote: You can always file a bug in bugs.kde.org to request this to be configurable. As usual first check that the bug does not already exist. While filing the bug I found a related bug and the fix is said to be committed to svn. Here it is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119146 Is there any chance that Gentoo developers could commit this fix to the portage, even though it is still in SVN? What should I do to confirm? Regards, Abhay pgp5kwAm68vJg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers can work with 2.6.15!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, Instead of a question this time, I have an answer! If you're trying to get ati-drivers (fglrx) to load with ernet parche de Microsoft linux-2.6.15 its simple! (Given the error you get is undefined symbol: pm_register or something similar). The solution is to simply: when configuring your kernel, under Power management options (ACPI, APM) turn on Legacy Power Management API (PM_LEGACY). Then recompile the kernel (recompiling modules should not be necessary) and re-boot to this new kernel. Now, for me at least, ati-drivers-8.20.8 loads fine! HTH, But they still don't run with xcompmgr, right ? Bye, Rafael Fernández López. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDv8oS9RRlaicc3IERAt+yAKCfZApbZeIdqMLesB50JIJjyjvYZgCfS89h izjxBdTcyhcZDDcKAIR0MJY= =e3cI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] booting fsck
i have issue with booting and dont know where to start fix things. so i have working kernel, everthing fine, then i copy config to new one and compile without changes. booting that new one kernel there is some action with udev rules and it takes bit longer than with nice kernel, dont have log on that. After that there is some weird action with ext3 partition fsck, log shows ReiserFS: hdb9: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on hdb9 thats ok, there is no reisefs, but ext3 then boot interrupts cause fails to fsck, asks for root passwd, probably because partitions is already mounted. if i continue to boot, fails networks setup but xorg and KDE starts ok, however with problems, for example launching fglrxinfo never exits can somebody point me where to look, kernel, udev, init scripts, ...? probably due to lack of good english i cant hit good google link martins -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r6 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 15:45:47 up 1 day, 19:32, 5 users, load average: 1.07, 1.25, 1.54 pgpXXkzDLCYZj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] booting fsck
On Saturday 07 January 2006 8:04 am, Martins Steinbergs wrote: ReiserFS: hdb9: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on hdb9 thats ok, there is no reisefs, but ext3 Check that /etc/fstab contains a correct entry for hdb9 file system (ext3 not reiserfs). -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers can work with 2.6.15!
Rafael Fernández López schreef: Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, Instead of a question this time, I have an answer! If you're trying to get ati-drivers (fglrx) to load with ernet parche de Microsoft linux-2.6.15 its simple! (Given the error you get is undefined symbol: pm_register or something similar). The solution is to simply: when configuring your kernel, under Power management options (ACPI, APM) turn on Legacy Power Management API (PM_LEGACY). Then recompile the kernel (recompiling modules should not be necessary) and re-boot to this new kernel. Now, for me at least, ati-drivers-8.20.8 loads fine! HTH, But they still don't run with xcompmgr, right ? I doubt it. ATI devs report that the team will not even work on support until xcompmgr becomes significantly more stable and closer to something like a final form, which I can understand, myself. Heck, even the nVidia drivers apparently can't support both xcompmgr and their own GLX component at the same time (you have to choose one or the other). Under those conditions, I can only consider it optional (since even if I had an nVidia card, if I had to choose between xcompmgr and glx, I would choose glx), and while it certainly sounds like a nice option (and I'm quite looking forward to it), I'm not particularly hurting for the lack of it. But we may see support proceed much faster once Xorg 7 is released (which I presume would include some kind of stable form of xcompmgr), since apparently ATI is going to a *monthly* release schedule (rather than every two months): http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1334103544postcount=79 mtippett is the nick of Matthew Tippett, Engineering Manager for Linux Software Engineering at ATI Technologies, Inc. So if he says it publically like that, you can pretty much bank on it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On Saturday 07 January 2006 10:43, Trenton Adams wrote: which is what I mentioned in another post that I made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well. You should review what you want out of your Linux Distro cos I for once am failing to understand your point of view. What do you want? Gentoo is gentoo. It gives you full control to do what *YOU* want to do and taking full control of a full fledged OS is needless to say; difficult. If you don't desire or need the full control then imho there are various other distros available with *simplicity* written all over them. They should be there at your service. But if Gentoo starts to uninstall stuff from my system without asking me then the whole philosophy of control dies or Gentoo dies. Regards, Abhay pgp7XmAVdrIf0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] booting fsck
On Saturday 07 January 2006 16:02, Joe Menola wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 8:04 am, Martins Steinbergs wrote: ReiserFS: hdb9: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on hdb9 thats ok, there is no reisefs, but ext3 Check that /etc/fstab contains a correct entry for hdb9 file system (ext3 not reiserfs). -jm fstab has correct entry and with different kernel everthing boots nice -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r6 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 16:35:40 up 1 day, 20:21, 5 users, load average: 1.40, 1.23, 1.21 pgpQu3ybTSXOh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Holly Bostick wrote: Hey ho, all-- (I think that) Ever since I downgraded Xorg from 6.8.99 back to 6.8.2-r6 a couple of days ago, I've had reports from both etc-update and cfg-update that there are 30 files needing to be updated (etc-update reports them as being in /usr/lib/X11/xkb sometimes, but not always). The problem is, these files do not exist, or rather are not found when I then run the relevant utility: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 326 info files. * IMPORTANT: 3 config files in /etc need updating. * IMPORTANT: 30 config files in /usr/lib/X11/xkb need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. za 01/07/06 13:58 za 01/07/06 14:07 motub - etc-update Scanning Configuration files... Automerging trivial changes in: filesystems Automerging trivial changes in: net.example The following is the list of files which need updating, each configuration file is followed by a list of possible replacement files. 1) /etc/conf.d/rc /etc/conf.d/._cfg_rc Please select a file to edit by entering the corresponding number. (don't use -3 or -5 if you're unsure what to do) (-1 to exit) (-3 to auto merge all remaining files) (-5 to auto-merge AND not use 'mv -i'): As you see, only three files (the files adjusted by the emerge -uaDtv world which this report completed) appear. The same thing happens with cfg-update: za 01/07/06 14:11 motub - emerge -pv easytag cfg-update 1.8.0 : Building checksum index... canceled! 30 config file updates found... Please run cfg-update -u to update your config files! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/easytag-1.99.11 [1.99.10] +aac* +flac +mp3 +nls +vorbis 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - cfg-update -u All files have been updated, done... za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - emerge -pv easytag cfg-update 1.8.0 : Building checksum index... canceled! 30 config file updates found... Please run cfg-update -u to update your config files! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/easytag-1.99.11 [1.99.10] +aac* +flac +mp3 +nls +vorbis 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB The thing is, I cannot find the relevant files in the first place (which may itself be the problem): za 01/07/06 14:12 motub - la /usr/lib/X11/xkb totaal 968 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1120 jan 3 13:58 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root776 jan 3 14:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7448 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23337 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_README.enhancing -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179416 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_xkbcomp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root568 jan 3 13:58 compat -r--r--r-- 1 root root689 jan 3 13:57 compat.dir lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 jan 3 13:58 compiled - ../../../../var/lib/xkb drwxr-xr-x 5 root root584 apr 28 2005 geometry -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1965 jan 3 13:57 geometry.dir drwxr-xr-x 4 root root544 jan 3 13:58 keycodes -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2283 jan 3 13:57 keycodes.dir drwxr-xr-x 5 root root296 apr 28 2005 keymap -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8576 jan 3 13:57 keymap.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root689 jun 3 2005 ._new-cfg_compat.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7372 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23258 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_README.enhancing -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27683 jun 3 2005 ._new-cfg_symbols.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 18:10 ._new-cfg_xkbcomp -r--r--r-- 1 root root729 jun 3 2005 ._old-cfg_compat.dir -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7448 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23337 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_README.enhancing -r--r--r-- 1 root root 31182 jun 3 2005 ._old-cfg_symbols.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 18:10 ._old-cfg_xkbcomp -r--r--r-- 1 root root983 jan 3 13:57 README -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7372 nov 14 17:10 README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23258 nov 14 17:10 README.enhancing drwxr-xr-x 2 root root512 jan 3 13:58 rules drwxr-xr-x 2 root root144 apr 28 2005 semantics drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4264 jan 3 13:58 symbols -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27683 jan 3 13:57 symbols.dir drwxr-xr-x 2 root root296 apr 28 2005 types -r--r--r-- 1 root root463 jan 3 13:57 types.dir -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179480 nov 14 17:10 xkbcomp I don't see 30 relevant files to be updated, so I don't even know what the
[gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff
Here's the kind of output I get from etc-update, for example: Showing differences between /etc/conf.d/rc and /etc/conf.d/._cfg_rc ESC[1;31m--- /etc/conf.d/rc 2005-12-22 10:42:50.0 +0100ESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+++ /etc/conf.d/._cfg_rc 2006-01-07 05:56:06.0 +0100ESC[0;0m ESC[1;35m@@ -35,17 +35,23 @@ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m RC_AUTO_INTERFACE=noESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+# RC_DOWN_INTERFACE allows you to specify if RC will bring the interfaceESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+# compeletly down when it stops. The default is yes, but there are someESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+# instances where you may not want this to happen such as using Wake On LAN.ESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+ESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+RC_DOWN_INTERFACE=yesESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # RC_VOLUME_ORDER allows you to specify, or even remove the volume setupESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # for various volume managers (MD, EVMS2, LVM, DM, etc). Note that they areESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # stopped in reverse order.ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[1;31m-RC_VERBOSE=noESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+RC_VOLUME_ORDER=raid evms lvm dmESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # RC_VERBOSE will make init scripts more verbose. Only networking scriptsESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # really use this at this time, and this is useful for trouble shootingESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # any issues you may have.ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[1;31m-RC_VOLUME_ORDER=raid evms lvm dmESC[0;0m ESC[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=noESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # RC_BOOTLOG will generate a log of the boot messages shown on the console. ESC[0;0m ESC[0;0m # Useful for headless machines or debugging. You need to emerge the ESC[0;0m (END) Clearly it's working, but not. This is in gnome-terminal, but the term in use doesn't seem to make any difference, and this is worse than nothing at all in terms of readablility (made even worse since using colordiff is intended to /enhance/ readability). Colordiff is set in /etc/etc-update.conf as recommended in the Wiki-- diff_command=colordiff -uN %file1 %file2, which seems to be right insofar as colordiff is working; it seems to me that the problem is that the term is not recognizing/escaping the color codes as color codes, and I don't know where to begin to find out why. I'm using the most recent colordiff available eix colordiff * app-misc/colordiff Available versions: 1.0.3 1.0.4 1.0.5 1.0.5-r2 Installed: 1.0.5-r2 Homepage:http://colordiff.sourceforge.net/ Description: Colorizes output of diff Found 1 matches and the relevant bug on bgo was fixed ages ago http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16924 So I really have no clue, but I think it must be something I've done wrong. Does anybody have a clue what that might be? TIA, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emaint --check question
I have resolved similar problem with 'emerge --metadata' after some of 'portage' upgrading. a === On Saturday 07 January 2006 18:09, Mark Knecht wrote: === Hello, I tried Googling around on this but didn't find anytthing. This seems broken. What's this emaint --check stuff about? Thanks, Mark lightning ~ # emerge -pv world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world ...done! Total size of downloads: 0 kB lightning ~ # emaint --check world Checking world for problems 'x11-base/x11-drm' has no ebuilds available Finished lightning ~ # eix x11-drm * x11-base/x11-drm Available versions: !4.3.0-r7 ~20050502 ~20050807 ~20051028 ~20051223 Installed: 20050807 Homepage:http://dri.sf.net Description: DRM Kernel Modules for X11 Found 1 matches lightning ~ # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Eugene Rosenzweig schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Hey ho, all-- (I think that) Ever since I downgraded Xorg from 6.8.99 back to 6.8.2-r6 a couple of days ago, I've had reports from both etc-update and cfg-update that there are 30 files needing to be updated (etc-update reports them as being in /usr/lib/X11/xkb sometimes, but not always). The problem is, these files do not exist, or rather are not found when I then run the relevant utility: snip Can anybody help me either fix this or fine-tune my quest for the misconfiguration that is causing this? T(hanks)I(n)A(dvance), Holly Indeed it seems strange. Both etc-update and emerge use the following to find the cfg files: find /usr/lib/X11/xkb -iname ._cfg_* This would be recursive so maybe the files you are after are somewhere below the listing you provide, you could run this command and see if it finds any more cfg files. Thanks, Eugene, indeed it does: # find /usr/lib/X11/xkb -iname ._cfg_* /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/._cfg_xorg.lst /usr/lib/X11/xkb/._cfg_xkbcomp /usr/lib/X11/xkb/compat/._cfg_misc /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_fr-latin9 /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_dvorak /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_ge_la /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_sapmi /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_se_FI /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_se_NO /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_se_SE /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_br /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_de /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_lt /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_ro /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/._cfg_us /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_altwin /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_dvorak /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_sapmi /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_se_FI /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_se_NO /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_se_SE /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_lt_std /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_srvr_ctrl /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_de /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_lt /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_ro /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/._cfg_us_intl /usr/lib/X11/xkb/._cfg_README.enhancing /usr/lib/X11/xkb/keycodes/._cfg_xfree86 /usr/lib/X11/xkb/._cfg_README.config now what I notice is that the two major directories involved also contain old-cfg and new-cfg files for the same configs, and that these old-cfg and new-cfg files were created on November 14th: la /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/ totaal 1024 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4264 jan 3 13:58 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1120 jan 3 13:58 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3048 jan 3 13:57 al -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1323 nov 14 17:10 altwin -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7708 jan 3 13:57 am -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2588 jan 3 13:57 apple -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7478 jan 3 13:57 ar -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10299 jan 3 13:57 az -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4970 jan 3 13:57 be -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6323 jan 3 13:57 ben -r--r--r-- 1 root root 30781 jan 3 13:57 bg -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4561 jan 3 13:57 br -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2638 jan 3 13:57 bs -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4702 jan 3 13:57 by -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8150 jan 3 13:57 ca -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5149 jan 3 13:57 ca_enhanced -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1321 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_altwin -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5975 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_de -r--r--r-- 1 root root 14300 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_dvorak -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4617 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_lt -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2812 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_lt_std -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4682 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_ro -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8184 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_sapmi -r--r--r-- 1 root root 208 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_FI -r--r--r-- 1 root root 208 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_NO -r--r--r-- 1 root root 207 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_SE -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2852 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_srvr_ctrl -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2254 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_us_intl -r--r--r-- 1 root root 297 jan 3 13:57 compose -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1256 jan 3 13:57 ctrl -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4453 jan 3 13:57 cz -r--r--r-- 1 root root 538 jan 3 13:57 cz_qwerty -r--r--r-- 1 root root 17553 jan 3 13:57 czsk -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5976 nov 14 17:10 de -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2793 jan 3 13:57 de_CH -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3310 jan 3 13:57 dev drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 apr 28 2005 digital -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4590 jan 3 13:57 dk -r--r--r-- 1 root root 14302 nov 14 17:10 dvorak -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2973 jan 3 13:57 ee -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4197 jan 3 13:57 el -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2637 jan 3 13:57 en_US -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3413 jan 3 13:57 es -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5394 jan 3 13:57 fi -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4037 jan 3 13:57 fr -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1457 jan 3 13:57 fr_CH drwxr-xr-x 2 root root96 apr 28 2005 fujitsu -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4298 jan 3 13:57 gb -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2927 jan 3 13:57
Re: [gentoo-user] world file cheating
Trenton Adams wrote: I've never specified -p, so I think it must be default, because I always have permissions preserved when I use tar. Perhaps this is a GNU tar default setting? I believe it may be a default for root, but would put it in anyway to be safe. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 10:43, Trenton Adams wrote: which is what I mentioned in another post that I made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well. You should review what you want out of your Linux Distro cos I for once am failing to understand your point of view. What do you want? Gentoo is gentoo. It gives you full control to do what *YOU* want to do and taking full control of a full fledged OS is needless to say; difficult. If you don't desire or need the full control then imho there are various other distros available with *simplicity* written all over them. They should be there at your service. But if Gentoo starts to uninstall stuff from my system without asking me then the whole philosophy of control dies or Gentoo dies. I never said it should uninstall stuff without asking you. In fact, I suggested it ask me. And gentoo is hardly difficult for anyone with a brain. *Perhaps* time consuming to learn, but not difficult. And as I said before, I'm using gentoo because of it's flexibility, so that's what I'm sticking with. In fact, all my Linux computers have now been converted to gentoo, as of this past week. So I don't plan on switching them back any time soon. I'm just of the mind that we really should encourage it's use, while encouraging people to also understand what's happening under the hood. I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Interesting viewpoint, and some of the things you say do have
relevance Holly. Thanks. But, I still think things should be a
little easier for the average user. I'm really sick of the windows
admins who *think* linux is hard, when it's really not, and bash it
all the time because of that. I'm all for converting them. :)
On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trenton Adams schreef:
Oops, forgot to reply to everything.
On 1/6/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trenton Adams schreef:
On 1/5/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:32:20 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote:
something like
if_blocked_by('openmotif') ewarn You must unmerge
openmotif before proceeding
Yes, or as follows...
if_blocked_by('openmotif') auto_unmerge('openmotif') #
continue with merge which should automatically be merging
openmotif anyhow.
Absolutely not! I don't want portage removing something I may
be using at the time without my saying so.
Good point. Perhaps it should ask then?
Well, it does, by stopping and waiting for you to perform an action
and either restart the stopped process (if the action you took was
to unmerge the blocking package), or to forego the stopped process
entirely, if you choose not to remove the blocked package because
you want to keep it for whatever reason (it could happen).
You're assuming that unmerging the blocking package is *always* the
right solution for everyone at all times (in this case, it's not
really relevant, since motif-config will itself re-install
openmotif), but the point of Gentoo is that you are in control. If
I am in control, then I have to decide what I want done in each
particular situation that occurs, which is exactly what I have to
do with the current setup-- very obviously, since Portage will stop
until I make a decision and act on it. So fine, your new updated
Portage informs me there's a block, and says, I could do this to
solve it, shall I? I myself am going to say no, because I want
to know the nature of the block, and how Portage's proposed action
is going to affect the system that I have carefully customized to
my individual needs.
Yes, flexibility is GREAT. That's one reason I really like gentoo,
and linux in general. However, I also like simplicity, or should I
say, I like to have the choice. So, one could easily make gentoo
have auto-detect and handle features, while allowing configuration
changes that disable automatic behaviour. You could have individual
enable/disable options for each feature, as well as one global
feature than enables/disables all auto-detect features. Then you
could have include/excludes for each feature so that the global would
not override them.
So, the bottom line is this, one person says that things are
difficult because they need to be, in order to be flexible. But I
say that if things are truly flexible, then it should also be
possible to make them automatic, or simple. That's what I call
ULTIMATE flexiblity, which is what I mentioned in another post that I
made. When I originally started with gentoo linux, I read the part
about why gentoo linux came about. Basically it was all about doing
things the way you want. Well, I like the flexiblity, but I also
want the simplicity. :) Let us have the simplicity of RedHat, and
RPMs (waiting for flames), but with flexibility as well.
Well, if this is your opinion, I must then accept the burden of being
one of those members of the Linux community you mention
Trenton Adams schreef:
Yes, and I've noticed there's a big problem with the linux community
at large. People that know and understand linux have a lot of the
times not helped the open source intiative, in that they like
things to be difficult,
Although this is not strictly true I don't *like* things to be
difficult, /per se/ but I do tend to do things the hard way rather
than the easy way
because it makes them somehow seem smarter. In all reality, it
doesn't take a genius to use linux, just someone who likes to read a
whole lot.
I do like to read a whole lot (always have), and I don't so much care
how smart anyone thinks I am, but if I am in any way smart, I do want
that to be recognized, which is a different thing.
But if you leave out the rather insulting insinuation that such users
are not in fact smart, but ego-trippers who just have nothing to do but
read dry technical texts that no normal person would ever bother with,
I'll cop to the charge.
The thing is, I prefer things to be slightly more difficult because I
believe that people using advanced tools should have a clue about how
they work and how to use them properly.
As I have said before, and will likely say again in the future, I
believe that a policy of providing advanced technology, dumbed-down so
that it Just Works to the unwashed masses (let us
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Saturday 07 January 2006 20:47, Holly Bostick wrote: So from this I deduce that 1) xorg 6.8.99 was *really* broken/incomplete or did something radically different that etc-update and cfg-update cannot deal with, since these files were never updated or offered to update while I when I actually installed the package or at any time while I was running the package (it's not like I haven't emerged anything for the past two months); and etc-update and cfg-update cannot handle it because they are not supposed to do it. The directory has been config protected so even though they are finding the new config files they can't over write anything until the protection is removed. 2) these files are now irrelevant (since I have gone back to 6.8.2-r6) and can be deleted without penalty; and They are relevant but 6.8.2-r6 wants to install its own version of the files. 3) these files are what is confusing the update utilities, and they will snap back when these old-cfg and new-cfg files are deleted. True. Does that sound about right? Xorg 6.8.2-r6 seems to be working OK I have a feeling that you followed the Migrating to Modular X.org guide and uninstalled old version of xorg before installing the new version, thus deleting xkb files. The upgrade to 6.8.99, as expected, installed the new version of these files. Now, that you've downgraded, the old versioned files are trying to install again but since the directory is protected and already contains 6.8.99 xkb files, etc-update cannot update the directory. You are not facing any problem because you are most probably not using xkb or in other words the keyboard layouts. If you've never used different keyboard layouts then you can comfortably delete the new-cfg files and expect to face nil problems. I hope I made myself comprehendible. Please mind that English is not my first language :) Regards, Abhay pgp3xOXyDV1pu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Abhay Kedia schreef: On Saturday 07 January 2006 20:47, Holly Bostick wrote: So from this I deduce that 1) xorg 6.8.99 was *really* broken/incomplete or did something radically different that etc-update and cfg-update cannot deal with, since these files were never updated or offered to update while I when I actually installed the package or at any time while I was running the package (it's not like I haven't emerged anything for the past two months); and etc-update and cfg-update cannot handle it because they are not supposed to do it. The directory has been config protected so even though they are finding the new config files they can't over write anything until the protection is removed. 2) these files are now irrelevant (since I have gone back to 6.8.2-r6) and can be deleted without penalty; and They are relevant but 6.8.2-r6 wants to install its own version of the files. OK, so after reading this several times, I see my (first) mistake was that 6.8.99 was not really under the auspices of 7.0 (Modular X), but now I (think I) see that it is, and this config protect is a kinda extraordinary measure until Modular X actually is released and makes it into the tree, at which time it will become subject to the ordinary Gentoo config management system, but until that time the config management is living in a sandbox where it cannot be affected by, nor affect, the stable config management system already in place. That's about the only way the above makes sense to me, so I hope that it's not completely contrary to reality :-) . 3) these files are what is confusing the update utilities, and they will snap back when these old-cfg and new-cfg files are deleted. True. Whew, at least I figured that much out :-D . Does that sound about right? Xorg 6.8.2-r6 seems to be working OK I have a feeling that you followed the Migrating to Modular X.org guide and uninstalled old version of xorg before installing the new version, thus deleting xkb files. No, no Guide, and in fact no intention of Migrating to Modular X in any way. My (mistaken) impression (but I was younger then) was that 6.8.99 was not yet modular X, so was (relatively) safe to upgrade to (or as safe as an ~arch install ever is); I was in a desperate mood that day, hoping that maybe this would fix some inconsistencies with my ATI driver, but that didn't work out, which is why I went back to stable. The upgrade to 6.8.99, as expected, installed the new version of these files. Now, that you've downgraded, the old versioned files are trying to install again but since the directory is protected and already contains 6.8.99 xkb files, etc-update cannot update the directory. You are not facing any problem because you are most probably not using xkb or in other words the keyboard layouts. If you've never used different keyboard layouts then you can comfortably delete the new-cfg files and expect to face nil problems. Don't I have to remove the folder from CONFIG_PROTECT? No, wait, I get it... you're saying that there's some kind of secret if in the config updaters that says that IF such modular X files exist in one of the protected directories, don't do anything, don't touch them, because that would break the invisible wall that is keeping Modular X separate from the rest of the system until Modular X has reached a point that it can be correctly integrated into the system (which is what the devs are working tirelessly to do). But OK, I'll delete the files and then see what happens. Glad to know that it won't trash me three ways from Sunday, anyway. I hope I made myself comprehendible. Please mind that English is not my first language :) The English is great, it's the content I have trouble with, but I'm catching up, I hope. Hopefully in 5 minutes I can repost with a [SOLVED] on the end. Thanks, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Abhay Kedia schreef: You are not facing any problem because you are most probably not using xkb or in other words the keyboard layouts. If you've never used different keyboard layouts then you can comfortably delete the new-cfg files and expect to face nil problems. Not sure if I made a mistake or not; I deleted both the old-cfg and new-cfg files, and now this is what I get: za 01/07/06 16:09 motub - etc-update Scanning Configuration files... Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) but there are still ._config files in the directory: la /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/ drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 3464 jan 7 18:38 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 864 jan 7 18:37 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3048 jan 3 13:57 al -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1323 nov 14 17:10 altwin -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7708 jan 3 13:57 am -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2588 jan 3 13:57 apple -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7478 jan 3 13:57 ar -r--r--r-- 1 root root 10299 jan 3 13:57 az -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4970 jan 3 13:57 be -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6323 jan 3 13:57 ben -r--r--r-- 1 root root 30781 jan 3 13:57 bg -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4561 jan 3 13:57 br -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2638 jan 3 13:57 bs -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4702 jan 3 13:57 by -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8150 jan 3 13:57 ca -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5149 jan 3 13:57 ca_enhanced -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1321 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_altwin -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5975 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_de -r--r--r-- 1 root root 14300 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_dvorak -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4617 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_lt -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2812 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_lt_std -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4682 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_ro -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8184 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_sapmi -r--r--r-- 1 root root 208 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_FI -r--r--r-- 1 root root 208 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_NO -r--r--r-- 1 root root 207 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_se_SE -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2852 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_srvr_ctrl -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2254 jan 3 13:57 ._cfg_us_intl for example. So etc-update is still not finding the files it needs to update; I think I've missed a step. What might that be.? Does something need to be re-initialized? Some cache updated? I'm getting a bit confused here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff
On 2006-01-07 15:53:39 +0100 (Sat, Jan), Holly Bostick wrote: Here's the kind of output I get from etc-update, for example: [...] ESC[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=noESC[0;0m [...] Clearly it's working, but not. This is in gnome-terminal, but the term in use doesn't seem to make any difference, and this is worse than nothing at all in terms of readablility (made even worse since using colordiff is intended to /enhance/ readability). Colordiff is set in /etc/etc-update.conf as recommended in the Wiki-- diff_command=colordiff -uN %file1 %file2, which seems to be right insofar as colordiff is working; it seems to me that the problem is that the term is not recognizing/escaping the color codes as color codes, and I don't know where to begin to find out why. I'm using the most recent colordiff available [...] Does anybody have a clue what that might be? What do you see in your terminal if you type this: ? printf '\033[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=no\033[0;0m' If this is ok, then you know that your terminal is ok, and there is something with colordiff... Do you have any alias or function around colordiff? What if you use diff_command=/usr/bin/colordiff . ? Did you remember that: SCSI is *not* magic. There are *fundamental* *technical* *reasons* why you have to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain every now and then. John F. Woods ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) :-) HTH -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by grep -i virus $MESSAGE pgpmKJkMtRmhP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE/CUPS and toner density
Abhay, Thanks! It seems like it works. Now, I have found the difference between density '1' and '5'. It is very small, but it exists :-) Andrew === On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:43, Abhay Kedia wrote: === On Saturday 07 January 2006 15:53, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: The problem is: I have Xerox Phaser 3120 printer (which, I think, is the same as Samsung ML-1710). I have tried to play with 'toner density' driver property under the 'Printer Manager' - 'printer context menu' - 'Configure'. I have not noticed any difference between '1' and '5' density. The aim is to set max possible density. Try configuring it directly from CUPS (localhost:631) I once tried configuring my deskjet from both KDE and OOo but it didn't work. Then I configured it through CUPS and settings do work now. Regards, Abhay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 04:17:11PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: (how do you get ls to also include the @#$%#$ *year*??) Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion. Of course, you can also pass it the --full-time option, but the result gets rather ugly: [01:09 PM]wwong lunar-2.1 $ ls -l total 96 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root91 Aug 11 1992 Makefile -rwxr-xr-x 1 wwong root 27121 Jul 14 21:53 lunar -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 2938 Aug 11 1992 lunar.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 1731 Jun 21 1991 lunar.bitmap -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 18447 Aug 11 1992 lunar.c -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 22096 Jul 14 21:53 lunar.o -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 11140 Aug 11 1992 tables.h [01:09 PM]wwong lunar-2.1 $ ls --full-time total 96 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root91 1992-08-11 00:14:48.0 -0400 Makefile -rwxr-xr-x 1 wwong root 27121 2005-07-14 21:53:10.0 -0400 lunar -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 2938 1992-08-11 00:14:48.0 -0400 lunar.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 1731 1991-06-21 02:35:16.0 -0400 lunar.bitmap -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 18447 1992-08-11 00:14:48.0 -0400 lunar.c -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 22096 2005-07-14 21:53:09.0 -0400 lunar.o -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 11140 1992-08-11 00:14:48.0 -0400 tables.h HTH, W -- One man's vacuum is another man's sewer. ~N. Milleron Sortir en Pantoufles: up 56 days, 10:27 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Saturday 07 January 2006 23:24, Holly Bostick wrote: What might that be.? Does something need to be re-initialized? Some cache updated? I'm getting a bit confused here. afaik etc-update does not reinitialize anything. All it looks for are files that have been named in a specific way. It diffs the original file with its update and then asks you whether to overwrite or not. You can delete the ._cfg files or let them be. They will not cause you any problems. Regards, Abhay pgpgOpysSL3dO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I enlarge graphics with mouse hover?
Richard Fish wrote: Still works for me. You should check that Show previews in file tips under Behavior is turned on. You should also make sure you are using the File Management profile (Settings-Load View Profile). You can also try to backup and delete your ~/.kde3.5 directory, and start over. Maybe you have some kind of issue there... -Richard My settings were correct. I deleted my old .kde* directories when I upgraded to kde 3.5 since I was having other wierd issues, but I did it again, and it worked. It shouldn't be this difficult. I have never had this happen before during normal use, and a simple upgrade shouldn't cause all the settings to go wacky especially when they show correctly through the configuration settings. I did some work to determine why my login manager wallpaper doesn't show up properly. If I download a wallpaper via the login manager, it places it in /root/.kde/share/wallpapers/ For example, I picked a random wallpaper and installed it. In the /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/backgroundrc it shows as: Wallpaper=$HOME/.kde/share/wallpapers/QuakeLinux--0 Log out, log in, and it doesn't show, but if I change the line to: Wallpaper=/root/.kde/share/wallpapers/QuakeLinux--0 it works perfect. Which explains why the never showed up properly. All my login wallapers are located in /root When logging in, the environment variable $HOME hasn't been determined. Sounds like a bug. Can anybody else confirm this? Thanks, Ken -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
Hello everybody, OK, so I'm surfin and go to www.thocp.net/index.htm having truncated the link out of curiosity from http://www.thocp.net/biographies/pickette_wayne_interview.htm The window opens way outside the boundaries of the screen and I can't drag the corner back. So I ctrl-w out of there and re-start firefox. Without any other input than firefox 790x565 the browser opens at http://eeaissy.com/eeaissy/modules.php?op=modloadname=My_eGalleryfile=indexdo=showgallgid=10 !!! A site I've never been to before, honest! Giving the dimensions to firefox doesn't help BTW but at least this window can be dragged back inside the confines of the physical monitor. I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So, thankfully it's not permanent ;) Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening here. Can anybody duplicate it? -mw __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff
Mariusz Pękala schreef: On 2006-01-07 15:53:39 +0100 (Sat, Jan), Holly Bostick wrote: Here's the kind of output I get from etc-update, for example: [...] ESC[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=noESC[0;0m [...] Clearly it's working, but not. This is in gnome-terminal, but the term in use doesn't seem to make any difference, and this is worse than nothing at all in terms of readablility (made even worse since using colordiff is intended to /enhance/ readability). Colordiff is set in /etc/etc-update.conf as recommended in the Wiki-- diff_command=colordiff -uN %file1 %file2, which seems to be right insofar as colordiff is working; it seems to me that the problem is that the term is not recognizing/escaping the color codes as color codes, and I don't know where to begin to find out why. I'm using the most recent colordiff available [...] Does anybody have a clue what that might be? What do you see in your terminal if you type this: ? printf '\033[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=no\033[0;0m' If this is ok, then you know that your terminal is ok, and there is something with colordiff... za 01/07/06 18:49 Saffron: He's my husband. Mal: Well who in the damn galaxy isn't? ~ motub - printf '\033[1;34m+RC_VERBOSE=no\033[0;0m' +RC_VERBOSE=no ==this is blue And in fact, normally my terminals do display color correctly; in my prompt above, the date is pink, the fortune is white, the cwd is green, and the actual prompt is [EMAIL PROTECTED], then yellow again. Do you have any alias or function around colordiff? No. I don't actually use colordiff standalone, so no reason. I did, however, have an (unnecessary) alias around etc-update, which I have now removed, allowing it to rely solely on its sudo entry. But since I don't have any updates to diff until I get my other little problem fixed, But... sudo uses a sub-shell, as I have heard many times. Is it possible that colordiff just doesn't work *in sudo*? I admit, I never thought of that. This is why sudo gets on my nerves, convenient as it is; that stupid subshell seems to lack all kinds of basic (bash) shell functionality that I expect. Anyway, thanks for the ideas, I suspect that you've pointed me in the right direction. I'm sure I should be able to generate some updates shortly; I won't do all of them so that I can test various configurations and see if any of them work. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
On Sunday 08 January 2006 00:05, maxim wexler wrote: I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So, thankfully it's not permanent ;) Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening here. Can anybody duplicate it? I went to that site and yup, it resizes the window. May be the site uses some kind of crappy javascript which is doing this. But when I restarted firefox I was not redirected to the second link you pointed to. I had my blank page opened for me. Regards, Abhay pgpLsvp9Hrbps.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
Hi all,
Sorry to say, but it looks fine by me. Nothing happens here.
Cheers,
William.
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:35:34 -0800 (PST)
maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird! :
Hello everybody,
OK, so I'm surfin and go to www.thocp.net/index.htm
having truncated the link out of curiosity from
http://www.thocp.net/biographies/pickette_wayne_interview.htm
The window opens way outside the boundaries of the
screen and I can't drag the corner back. So I ctrl-w
out of there and re-start firefox. Without any other
input than firefox 790x565 the browser opens at
http://eeaissy.com/eeaissy/modules.php?op=modloadname=My_eGalleryfile=indexdo=showgallgid=10
!!!
A site I've never been to before, honest!
Giving the dimensions to firefox doesn't help BTW but
at least this window can be dragged back inside the
confines of the physical monitor.
I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over
to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So,
thankfully it's not permanent ;)
Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening
here. Can anybody duplicate it?
-mw
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Willie Wong schreef: On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 04:17:11PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: (how do you get ls to also include the @#$%#$ *year*??) Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion. OK, I see what you mean-- or maybe I don't: la ~/docs/ totaal 3714 drwxrwxr-x 15 motub somegroup1136 okt 28 00:56 . drwxrwxr-x 16 motub somegroup1720 nov 21 02:46 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup 1292758 okt 18 20:17 autosc102.exe drwxr-xr-x 6 motub somegroup 192 okt 30 15:25 books -r-xr-xr-x 1 motub somegroup2778 jan 27 2003 Buddies.xml drwxrwxr-x 2 motub somegroup1216 jan 6 22:42 cmds -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup 581 jan 31 2005 computeruniverse_rma.txt drwxrwxr-x 5 motub somegroup3192 nov 21 16:55 config -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup3904 nov 3 2004 depclean_data.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup 204 sep 27 17:40 general_cvs.txt drwxrwxr-x 3 motub somegroup1360 sep 6 23:23 hardware_man drwxrwxr-x 10 motub somegroup 528 apr 26 2005 +hb_pers drwxrwxr-x 6 motub somegroup3448 apr 26 2005 infodocs -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup 56 nov 3 2004 install_notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup 99957 okt 18 20:17 Manual.pdf drwxrwxr-x 2 motub somegroup 240 sep 4 17:45 misc drwxrwxr-x 3 motub somegroup1320 dec 9 21:46 miscpost drwxrwxr-x 8 motub somegroup5808 mei 29 2005 misctech -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup1661 jul 13 13:52 more_what works.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup1410 jul 2 2005 more_what works.txt~ drwxrwxr-x 2 motub somegroup3360 okt 19 01:38 my_scripts -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup 262 okt 4 17:03 new_wine_install_notes.txt drwxrwxr-x 2 motub somegroup2312 dec 24 15:42 output -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup5351 nov 6 2004 readme-queen.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup 50744 nov 6 2004 README-scummvm.txt drwxr-xr-- 2 motub somegroup 120 okt 18 20:41 registry drwx-- 2 motub somegroup 112 jun 15 2005 .Trash-motub -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup 75612 jun 16 2005 what_works.html I see that many files that are more than a year old then are followed by the year, but some are not, and some which are less than a year old are followed by a year. -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup1661 jul 13 13:52 more_what works.txt (this must have been created in 2005) but this file is less than a year old and is still fully dated: -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup 581 jan 31 2005 computeruniverse_rma.txt But even leaving aside the inconsistencies (only for the purposes of this discussion), this is not the behaviour I expect or in fact desire. I normally expect the year to be displayed whenever the current calendar year is different from that associated with the file-- thus, if the file was created in 2006, I would not expect the year to be shown, but if it was created in 2005, I would expect the year to be shown, whether or not the current date was one year or more from the month and day that the file was created. Rather than go off on a rant, I will ask mildly: is there any way to change the default behaviour to more reflect my expected behaviour? Not so much asking you to tell me how to do it as asking if those of you who have already read man ls whether there is a solution to be found when I have the time to read it myself. Thanks, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I'm just of the mind that we really should encourage it's use, while encouraging people to also understand what's happening under the hood. ...and how do you suggest that should be done? There is tons of documentation available for user to read and know what is happening under the hood but no one wants to RTFM. Even this problem that you faced has been clearly explained along with its solution in man emerge. How should Gentoo force a user to read the documentation and the man pages? I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Regards, Abhay pgplgtdTD2sIl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emaint --check question
On 1/7/06, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have resolved similar problem with 'emerge --metadata' after some of 'portage' upgrading. a Andrew, Thanks for the response. Unfortunately that didn't work as well for me. This machine is an AMD64 box. It turns out I made a mistake some long time ago in my package.keywords file and forgot the ~ in front of the AMD64. Up until today portage didn't seem to care. With that change I am now able to emerge x11-drm just fine. Thanks again, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
Abhay Kedia schreef: On Sunday 08 January 2006 00:05, maxim wexler wrote: I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So, thankfully it's not permanent ;) Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening here. Can anybody duplicate it? I went to that site and yup, it resizes the window. You can refuse to allow that behaviour (I'm not going to test the site right now, but I have Firefox to disallow sites to resize windows, so I would expect that that shouldn't happen to me unless firefox is broken): In 1.5 (the settings are also available in previous versions, but in Deer Park the dialog is to allow, rather than previously where it was to disallow the following behaviours): Edit== Preferences== Content== JavaScript Advanced Settings button uncheck if checked in Deer Park to disallow, check if unchecked in pre-1.5 versions to disallow sites to: Move or resize windows Raise or lower windows Disable or replace context menus Hide the status bar Change status bar text Hope knowing this is helpful to you. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
Holly Bostick:
[...]
Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think
it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older
than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion.
OK, I see what you mean-- or maybe I don't:
[...]
I see that many files that are more than a year old then are
followed by the year, but some are not, and some which are less
than a year old are followed by a year.
Why bother?
Untar coreutils and look at src/ls.c:
static char const *long_time_format[2] =
{
/* strftime format for non-recent files (older than 6 months), in
-l output when --time-style=locale is specified. This should
contain the year, month and day (at least), in an order that is
understood by people in your locale's territory.
Please try to keep the number of used screen columns small,
because many people work in windows with only 80 columns. But
make this as wide as the other string below, for recent files.*/
N_(%b %e %Y),
/* strftime format for recent files (younger than 6 months), in
-l output when --time-style=locale is specified. This should
contain the month, day and time (at least), in an order that is
understood by people in your locale's territory.
Please try to keep the number of used screen columns small,
because many people work in windows with only 80 columns. But
make this as wide as the other string above, for non-recent
files. */
N_(%b %e %H:%M)
};
But even leaving aside the inconsistencies (only for the purposes of
this discussion), this is not the behaviour I expect or in fact
desire. I normally expect the year to be displayed whenever the
current calendar year is different from that associated with the
file-- thus, if the file was created in 2006, I would not expect the
year to be shown, but if it was created in 2005, I would expect the
year to be shown, whether or not the current date was one year or
more from the month and day that the file was created.
The code you should change is here:
static void print_long_format (const struct fileinfo *f) {
char modebuf[12];
if ((when_local = localtime (when)))
{
time_t six_months_ago;
int recent;
char const *fmt;
/* If the file appears to be in the future, update the current
time, in case the file happens to have been modified since
the last time we checked the clock. */
if (current_time when
|| (current_time == when current_time_ns when_ns))
{
/* Note that get_current_time calls gettimeofday which, on some non-
compliant systems, clobbers the buffer used for localtime's result.
But it's ok here, because we use a gettimeofday wrapper that
saves and restores the buffer around the gettimeofday call. */
get_current_time ();
}
/* Consider a time to be recent if it is within the past six
months. A Gregorian year has 365.2425 * 24 * 60 * 60 ==
31556952 seconds on the average. Write this value as an
integer constant to avoid floating point hassles. */
six_months_ago = current_time - 31556952 / 2;
recent = (six_months_ago = when
(when current_time
|| (when == current_time when_ns = current_time_ns)));
fmt = long_time_format[recent];
}
May be, you could add a command-line option ;-)
HTH
Sergio
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
On 2006-01-07 10:35:34 -0800 (Sat, Jan), maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, OK, so I'm surfin and go to www.thocp.net/index.htm having truncated the link out of curiosity from http://www.thocp.net/biographies/pickette_wayne_interview.htm The window opens way outside the boundaries of the screen and I can't drag the corner back. So I ctrl-w out of there and re-start firefox. Without any other input than firefox 790x565 the browser opens at http://eeaissy.com/eeaissy/modules.php?op=modloadname=My_eGalleryfile=indexdo=showgallgid=10 !!! A site I've never been to before, honest! Giving the dimensions to firefox doesn't help BTW but at least this window can be dragged back inside the confines of the physical monitor. I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So, thankfully it's not permanent ;) Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening here. Can anybody duplicate it? I suppose now you want to unset in Edit - Preferences - Web features - Enable JavaScript - Advanced all but Change Images, or even disable JavaScript globally... ;-) I didn't dare to enable JavaScript, but I saw nothing relevant in the code of that page. Do you have any suspicious plugins, Flash, Java, any extensions? Can you sniff (with tcpdump or ethereal) the traffic when that window opens? Is there only one instance of firefox running? only one window? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by grep -i virus $MESSAGE pgpMnhOc2kWgH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff
On Saturday 07 January 2006 10:37, Holly Bostick wrote: No. I don't actually use colordiff standalone, so no reason. I did, however, have an (unnecessary) alias around etc-update, which I have now removed, allowing it to rely solely on its sudo entry. But since I don't have any updates to diff until I get my other little problem fixed, Try changing your 'pager' variable in etc-update.conf from 'less' to 'less -R'. -- # # electronerd, the electronerdian from electronerdia # pgp4vKh2Rc6ZE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:37:12PM +0100, Penguin Lover Sergio Polini squawked: May be, you could add a command-line option ;-) And don't forget to open a bug and send in a patch! =) W -- Ugh! It's 1/2 C U ^2, saved by the bell, we've ran out of time. ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM, P-town PHY 304 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 56 days, 13:05 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:01:25PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: Rather than go off on a rant, I will ask mildly: is there any way to change the default behaviour to more reflect my expected behaviour? Not so much asking you to tell me how to do it as asking if those of you who have already read man ls whether there is a solution to be found when I have the time to read it myself. No command line option is listed in `man ls' But you could, theoretically, with some awk magic, invoke ls --full-time, chop it up, use `date' to put the date into a format you prefer, and put it back together. W -- This class makes me feel like Ralph Wiggam... ~DeathMech, Some Student. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 56 days, 13:06 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On 2006-01-07 20:01:25 +0100 (Sat, Jan), Holly Bostick wrote: Willie Wong schreef: On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 04:17:11PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: (how do you get ls to also include the @#$%#$ *year*??) Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion. OK, I see what you mean-- or maybe I don't: I see that many files that are more than a year old then are followed by the year, but some are not, and some which are less than a year old are followed by a year. -rw-r--r-- 1 motub somegroup1661 jul 13 13:52 more_what works.txt (this must have been created in 2005) but this file is less than a year old and is still fully dated: -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub somegroup 581 jan 31 2005 computeruniverse_rma.txt But even leaving aside the inconsistencies (only for the purposes of this discussion), this is not the behaviour I expect or in fact desire. I normally expect the year to be displayed whenever the current calendar year is different from that associated with the file-- thus, if the file was created in 2006, I would not expect the year to be shown, but if it was created in 2005, I would expect the year to be shown, whether or not the current date was one year or more from the month and day that the file was created. It's a matter of taste, but I would rather keep this historical behaviour. On January the 1st you would see tiestamps from yesterday similiar to the 'very-old-ones'. Rather than go off on a rant, I will ask mildly: is there any way to change the default behaviour to more reflect my expected behaviour? Not so much asking you to tell me how to do it as asking if those of you who have already read man ls whether there is a solution to be found when I have the time to read it myself. info ls, section * Formatting file timestamps:: A timestamp is considered to be recent if it is less than six months old, and is not dated in the future. and further: For example, `--time-style=+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' causes... HTH -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by grep -i virus $MESSAGE pgpspS7m4PXuO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kate doesn't reuse existing process anymore with kde 3.5.0?
Abhay Kedia wrote: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119146 Is there any chance that Gentoo developers could commit this fix to the portage, even though it is still in SVN? Unlikely: search bugs.gentoo.org for similar kde bugs and you'll see they get marked UPST (upstream). Normally only security stuff is applied immediately, most other bug fixes will arrive with the next release of KDE. If you can't wait, the normal procedure is to make yourself an overlay, include the patch there, and re-emerge the package. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox -- too weird!
On Saturday 07 January 2006 18:54, Abhay Kedia wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 00:05, maxim wexler wrote: I did this twice, so it's no mere fluke. I rushed over to Yahoo to post this and the window's still OK. So, thankfully it's not permanent ;) Anybody care to hazard a guess as to what's happening here. Can anybody duplicate it? I went to that site and yup, it resizes the window. May be the site uses some kind of crappy javascript which is doing this. But when I restarted firefox I was not redirected to the second link you pointed to. I had my blank page opened for me. Same in Konq but it re-sized to a smaller window and reopened on my blank page but still with the smaller size. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 09:56:59PM +0100, Penguin Lover Mariusz P?kala squawked: info ls, section * Formatting file timestamps:: A timestamp is considered to be recent if it is less than six months old, and is not dated in the future. and further: For example, `--time-style=+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' causes... HTH grrr... curse gnu info. For some reason I *never* remember to look there. Now, if only fvwm has a easily navigable info page instead of the big man page... W -- Ford grabbed him by the lapels of his dressing gown and spoke to him as slowly and distinctly and patiently as if he were somebody from a telephone company accounts department. - Ford trying to rectify that situation. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 56 days, 14:29 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Saturday 07 January 2006 18:54, Holly Bostick wrote: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/ What might that be.? Does something need to be re-initialized? Some cache updated? I'm getting a bit confused here. Look at the following command sequence (as my user): [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ echo $CONFIG_PROTECT /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mkdir temp [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cd temp [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ touch pippo [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ touch ._cfg_pippo [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ export CONFIG_PROTECT=$CONFIG_PROTECT `pwd` [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ /usr/sbin/etc-update Scanning Configuration files... find: /etc/cups/certs: Permission denied find: /etc/lvm/archive: Permission denied find: /etc/lvm/backup: Permission denied find: /etc/tomcat-5: Permission denied Automerging trivial changes in: pippo Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) As you can see, any directory can be added to CONFIG_PROTECT, and scanned with etc-update (see: automerging trivial changes in: pippo?). And now: [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ ll -a total 16 drwxr-xr-x2 sko sko 4096 Jan 7 23:14 . drwxr-xr-x 168 sko sko 12288 Jan 7 23:13 .. -rw-r--r--1 sko sko 0 Jan 7 23:13 pippo [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ touch ._cfg_pippo [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ export CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=$CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK `pwd` [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ /usr/sbin/etc-update Scanning Configuration files... find: /etc/cups/certs: Permission denied find: /etc/lvm/archive: Permission denied find: /etc/lvm/backup: Permission denied find: /etc/tomcat-5: Permission denied Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) [23:13] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/temp]$ The directory ~/temp is listed both in CONFIG_PROTECT and CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK, so nothing is done... Is perhaps /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/ listed in CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK? Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 4 20:40:52 CET 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.24 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem
On Saturday 07 January 2006 23:24, Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 18:54, Holly Bostick wrote: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/ What might that be.? Does something need to be re-initialized? Some cache updated? I'm getting a bit confused here. [...] I'm wrong, the second call to /usr/sbin/etc-update did the *same* thing, but *silently*, it left no ._cfg_* file behind... Sorry for the noise :-) ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 4 20:40:52 CET 2006 One 2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4014.49 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] K3B - cdrado without root privileges
Hello, i recently installed K3B. When i start the application a window pops up and says something like cdrdao will run without root privileges, use k3b-setup to solve this problem. The problem is on my system there is no such setup-tool. I have Gnome installed but no KDE, is the K3B-setup only available when i use KDE. Thank You! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: K3B - cdrado without root privileges
On Saturday 07 January 2006 23:28, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Hello, i recently installed K3B. When i start the application a window pops up and says something like cdrdao will run without root privileges, use k3b-setup to solve this problem. The problem is on my system there is no such setup-tool. I have Gnome installed but no KDE, is the K3B-setup only available when i use KDE. [23:41] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ equery belongs /usr/bin/k3bsetup [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/k3bsetup in *... ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.8 (/usr/bin/k3bsetup) it is part of k3b program, but it is called k3bsetup, all lower case one-word. Anyway in k3b under settings you can call it :-) Or: Go to Settings configure K3b misc and check Check system configuration a window will pop up where you can Start K3bSetup2 Superuser privileges are needed so another popup will ask you for root password... ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 4 20:40:52 CET 2006 One 2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4014.49 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: K3B - cdrado without root privileges
if i run equery i get no results gentoo billie # equery belongs /usr/bin/k3bsetup [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/k3bsetup in *... ] gentoo billie # Francesco Talamona schrieb: On Saturday 07 January 2006 23:28, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Hello, i recently installed K3B. When i start the application a window pops up and says something like cdrdao will run without root privileges, use k3b-setup to solve this problem. The problem is on my system there is no such setup-tool. I have Gnome installed but no KDE, is the K3B-setup only available when i use KDE. [23:41] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ equery belongs /usr/bin/k3bsetup [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/k3bsetup in *... ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.8 (/usr/bin/k3bsetup) it is part of k3b program, but it is called k3bsetup, all lower case one-word. Anyway in k3b under settings you can call it :-) Or: Go to Settings configure K3b misc and check Check system configuration a window will pop up where you can Start K3bSetup2 Superuser privileges are needed so another popup will ask you for root password... ciao Francesco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: K3B - cdrado without root privileges
On Sunday 08 January 2006 00:01, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: if i run equery i get no results gentoo billie # equery belongs /usr/bin/k3bsetup [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/k3bsetup in *... ] gentoo billie # Don't you have K3B Setup under Settings menu? I would add a line in /etc/portage/package.use echo -e \n app-cdr/k3b +kde /etc/portage/package.use and see what this command will say: emerge -av k3b Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 4 20:40:52 CET 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.24 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3B - cdrado without root privileges
Daniel Pielmeier schreef: Hello, i recently installed K3B. When i start the application a window pops up and says something like cdrdao will run without root privileges, use k3b-setup to solve this problem. The problem is on my system there is no such setup-tool. I have Gnome installed but no KDE, is the K3B-setup only available when i use KDE. Yes. Or rather, that tool is only available when you enable the kde USE flag when emerging K3b. So if you installed with it disabled, you don't have it. But you don't need it, for two reasons: 1) that message is in error. I get it all the time (every time I run K3b, which I also compiled without the kde USE flag), and K3b works just fine. The problem seems to be a combination of a) changes to cdrdao, which formerly required the sticky bit set to run as a non root user. This is no longer the case, but b) k3b which was supposed to have been updated to suppress this message, seems to have not been so repaired, so it's living in the past. 2) If you really do need for whatever reason to set the sticky bit on cdrdao, you are perfectly capable of opening a root filemanager, selecting the cdrdao binary and re-setting the permissions manually. So relax. Everything is, afaik, all right. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3B - cdrado without root privileges [SOLVED]
Thank you all for your help. I was just a little confused about the message, because as holly said k3b works fine even with this message. Holly Bostick schrieb: Daniel Pielmeier schreef: Hello, i recently installed K3B. When i start the application a window pops up and says something like cdrdao will run without root privileges, use k3b-setup to solve this problem. The problem is on my system there is no such setup-tool. I have Gnome installed but no KDE, is the K3B-setup only available when i use KDE. Yes. Or rather, that tool is only available when you enable the kde USE flag when emerging K3b. So if you installed with it disabled, you don't have it. But you don't need it, for two reasons: 1) that message is in error. I get it all the time (every time I run K3b, which I also compiled without the kde USE flag), and K3b works just fine. The problem seems to be a combination of a) changes to cdrdao, which formerly required the sticky bit set to run as a non root user. This is no longer the case, but b) k3b which was supposed to have been updated to suppress this message, seems to have not been so repaired, so it's living in the past. 2) If you really do need for whatever reason to set the sticky bit on cdrdao, you are perfectly capable of opening a root filemanager, selecting the cdrdao binary and re-setting the permissions manually. So relax. Everything is, afaik, all right. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 fails to compile
Yup - running python-updater solved the problem. I didn't even notice that python was upgraded in the last emerge -uD world I did. Thanks for the hint! On Friday 06 January 2006 23:47, Jeff wrote: On 07/01/2006, at 9:53 AM, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/5/06, Lord Imbrius the Despondent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys - I was just doing an emerge -uD world and it comes to a screeching halt with i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: dbus_bindings.c: No such file or directory when compiling sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1. Any clues? Thanks. dbus_bindings.c is built from dbus_bindings.pyx using the program pyrex, provided by dev-python/pyrex. Do you have this package installed? Did you updated python recently, but forget to run python-updater? I had a problem yesterday that sounds similar to this after updating world. I forgot to include -a in the emerge and so wasn't aware that python was upgraded in the update. I don't remember seeing anything about dbus_bindings.c in the merge output although there was a mention of pyrex (I can't remember the actual message). Running python-updater was the answer. Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Trenton Adams schreef: Interesting points, but On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Well actually, it could happen. If I had a menu of packages to be installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm still customizing my system the way I want. So once again, you absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install Just a quick question: Isn't creating a menu of packages to be installed part of the install process? If not, because you did not create this menu yourself, then you are not customizing your system the way you want, but rather choosing the most suitable for you amongst a list of pre-defined-- thus, by definition, limiting-- options. If you did create the menu of packages yourself, and it then is (as it must be) considered part of the installation process, then isn't the installation process no longer easy, by your definition of easy? Not quite following the logic here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 19:20 -0800, Bob Sanders wrote: On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:47:19 -0800 Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that something is not stable with the X server or with the card drivers. For now, perhaps forget MythTV and just see if you can get a stable input running with something like tvtime - [ N] media-tv/tvtime (0.9.12): High quality television application for use with video capture cards. Forget I mentioned tvtime. It doesn't work with ivtv. Best one can do is to set the input with ivtvctl, record some test footage - cat /dev/v4l/video0 test.mpg, then see if it can be played back with mplayer. Bob - I've got a little new info on the problem. I hope it's useful. Here's the output of mythbackend: camille ~ # mythbackend 2006-01-07 18:34:19.847 New DB connection, total: 1 Starting up as the master server. 2006-01-07 18:34:20.087 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-01-07 18:34:20.216 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Television on card when setting channel 3 2006-01-07 18:34:20.285 New DB scheduler connection is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput. 2006-01-07 18:34:20.627 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-01-07 18:34:20.627 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-01-07 18:34:22.503 Reschedule requested for id -1. 2006-01-07 18:34:22.653 Scheduled 0 items in 0.1 = 0.14 match + 0.01 place 2006-01-07 18:34:22.700 Seem to be woken up by USER 2006-01-07 18:35:15.596 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:35:15.596 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 18:35:15.628 Reschedule requested for id -1. 2006-01-07 18:35:15.669 unknown socket 2006-01-07 18:35:15.685 Scheduled 0 items in 0.1 = 0.04 match + 0.02 place 2006-01-07 18:36:08.116 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:36:08.116 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 18:36:08.144 Reschedule requested for id -1. 2006-01-07 18:36:08.178 Scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.02 match + 0.01 place 2006-01-07 18:36:08.187 unknown socket 2006-01-07 18:36:26.915 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:36:26.915 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 18:36:26.958 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:36:26.959 adding: camille as a client (events: 1) 2006-01-07 18:36:26.983 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:36:26.983 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 18:36:27.014 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 18:36:27.014 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 18:36:27.030 adding: camille as a remote ringbuffer 2006-01-07 18:36:27.054 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2006-01-07 18:36:29.247 joined null string in WriteStringList 2006-01-07 18:36:49.422 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None And here's the output from mythfrontend: 2006-01-07 18:36:21.401 New DB connection, total: 1 Total desktop width=1024, height=768, numscreens=1 2006-01-07 18:36:21.421 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0 2006-01-07 18:36:21.445 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-01-07 18:36:21.445 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-01-07 18:36:21.793 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.) mythtv: could not connect to socket mythtv: No such file or directory lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages 2006-01-07 18:36:22.345 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin. 2006-01-07 18:36:26.835 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-01-07 18:36:26.890 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.3:6543 (try 1 of 5) 2006-01-07 18:36:26.906 Using protocol version 15 2006-01-07 18:36:26.974 Using protocol version 15 2006-01-07 18:36:27.198 Disable DPMS 2006-01-07 18:36:28.968 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'. 2006-01-07 18:36:28.968 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. 2006-01-07 18:36:29.013 Using XV port 60 2006-01-07 18:36:29.195 Realtime priority would require SUID as root. 2006-01-07 18:36:29.238 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted) libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering 2006-01-07 18:36:29.274 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait 2006-01-07 18:36:30.244 prebuffering pause 2006-01-07 18:36:49.252 ReadStringList timeout (quick). Remote encoder not responding. 2006-01-07 18:36:49.252 WriteStringList: Bad socket 2006-01-07 18:36:49.253 ReadStringList: Bad socket Remote encoder not responding. 2006-01-07 18:36:49.253 WriteStringList: Bad socket 2006-01-07 18:36:49.253 ReadStringList: Bad socket Remote encoder not responding. ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) 2006-01-07 18:36:49.268 WriteStringList: Bad socket 2006-01-07 18:36:49.268 ReadStringList: Bad socket Remote encoder not responding. 2006-01-07 18:36:49.396 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None 2006-01-07 18:36:49.404 Changing from None to None 2006-01-07 18:36:49.424 Enable DPMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ As I said, I tried setting up the evilwm stuff from the MythTV section on the Gentoo wiki.
[gentoo-user] OT - Permissions on mounted Windows partition
I think someone's asked this before here, but I don't remember the answer; How do I make it where regular users can read, execute, and possibly write files on my mounted Windows XP partition? The only thing I use Windows for anymore is playing DirectX games, and I'm emerging wine now. I noticed that my personal account gets Permission denied when trying to ls /mnt/windows and I don't want to have to use the root account unnecessarily... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
First off all, the install process is only a portion of making gentoo *easier*. At it is kind of a tangent to the original discussion. But, none the less, it is a good discussion. On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Interesting points, but On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Well actually, it could happen. If I had a menu of packages to be installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm still customizing my system the way I want. So once again, you absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install Just a quick question: Isn't creating a menu of packages to be installed part of the install process? If not, because you did not create this menu yourself, then you are not customizing your system the way you want, but rather choosing the most suitable for you amongst a list of pre-defined-- thus, by definition, limiting-- options. Here we go again, who says that you have to limit it to a menu? Give a menu, but allow a graphical shell during install for those that want to do extra packages, or whatever. Or, even provide a dynamically extendable menu that can grab packages lists from other places, from another CD, floppy, Internet, etc. So, to not provide a menu would be *limiting* as well. But I do agree with you Holly, that providing *only* a *predefined* graphical menu for package installation would be limiting. Now, I'm just brain storming here... Wouldn't it be beneficial to provide automated graphical installs for gentoo, but provide the option to open a graphical shell at *all* stages of the installation process? Wouldn't that be ultimate flexibility? I read about the new graphical install for gentoo, and perhaps it already does this!?!? If you did create the menu of packages yourself, and it then is (as it must be) considered part of the installation process, then isn't the installation process no longer easy, by your definition of easy? Well, this is a side tangent, given my reply just above. None the less, all of *my* installs from the point after I created my *own* menu would be easy. Not quite following the logic here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update
Sorry, I shouldn't have said, Here we go again, as that can be antogonizing, which doesn't help anything. :( On 1/7/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off all, the install process is only a portion of making gentoo *easier*. At it is kind of a tangent to the original discussion. But, none the less, it is a good discussion. On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trenton Adams schreef: Interesting points, but On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote: I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so desire. Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just gives you spare parts (ebuilds packages), books to read (documentation) and a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work inside the engine :) Well actually, it could happen. If I had a menu of packages to be installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm still customizing my system the way I want. So once again, you absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install Just a quick question: Isn't creating a menu of packages to be installed part of the install process? If not, because you did not create this menu yourself, then you are not customizing your system the way you want, but rather choosing the most suitable for you amongst a list of pre-defined-- thus, by definition, limiting-- options. Here we go again, who says that you have to limit it to a menu? Give a menu, but allow a graphical shell during install for those that want to do extra packages, or whatever. Or, even provide a dynamically extendable menu that can grab packages lists from other places, from another CD, floppy, Internet, etc. So, to not provide a menu would be *limiting* as well. But I do agree with you Holly, that providing *only* a *predefined* graphical menu for package installation would be limiting. Now, I'm just brain storming here... Wouldn't it be beneficial to provide automated graphical installs for gentoo, but provide the option to open a graphical shell at *all* stages of the installation process? Wouldn't that be ultimate flexibility? I read about the new graphical install for gentoo, and perhaps it already does this!?!? If you did create the menu of packages yourself, and it then is (as it must be) considered part of the installation process, then isn't the installation process no longer easy, by your definition of easy? Well, this is a side tangent, given my reply just above. None the less, all of *my* installs from the point after I created my *own* menu would be easy. Not quite following the logic here. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] unable to select gnucash TXF categories
Hi, I have app-office/gnucash 1.8.11 installed. When I mark an account as Tax Related (Edit-Tax Options), I am supposed to be able to select a TXF category. But no categories are displayed. This prevents me from exporting the Tax report to a TXF file. Has anyone figured out how to get this working? Thanks, Lincoln -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [Date issue SOLVED]
Mariusz Pękala schreef: On 2006-01-07 20:01:25 +0100 (Sat, Jan), Holly Bostick wrote: Willie Wong schreef: On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 04:17:11PM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: (how do you get ls to also include the @#$%#$ *year*??) Sorry, couldn't help with the rest of your problem, but I think it is assumed that ls will display the year only for files older than a year old. Quite clever, in my opinion. snip But even leaving aside the inconsistencies (only for the purposes of this discussion), this is not the behaviour I expect or in fact desire. I normally expect the year to be displayed whenever the current calendar year is different from that associated with the file snip Rather than go off on a rant, I will ask mildly: is there any way to change the default behaviour to more reflect my expected behaviour? info ls, section * Formatting file timestamps:: A-HA The 'Info' command, which I also always forget, not least because I don't know how to navigate info files. But this caused me to take another whack at it, and I got along well enough to find a mostly acceptable way to reform the la alias to the following: alias la=ls --color -lAGbh --time-style='+%b %d %Y %H:%M' which produces zo 01/08/06 02:25 ~/docs motub - la totaal 3,7M -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 1,3M okt 18 2005 20:17 autosc102.exe drwxr-xr-x 6 motub 192 okt 30 2005 15:25 books -r-xr-xr-x 1 motub 2,8K jan 27 2003 01:05 Buddies.xml drwxrwxr-x 2 motub 1,2K jan 06 2006 22:42 cmds -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub 581 jan 31 2005 15:36 computeruniverse_rma.txt drwxrwxr-x 5 motub 3,2K nov 21 2005 16:55 config -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub 3,9K nov 03 2004 19:18 depclean_data.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 204 sep 27 2005 17:40 general_cvs.txt drwxrwxr-x 3 motub 1,4K sep 06 2005 23:23 hardware_man drwxrwxr-x 10 motub 528 apr 26 2005 01:30 +hb_pers drwxrwxr-x 6 motub 3,4K apr 26 2005 01:29 infodocs -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub 56 nov 03 2004 15:47 install_notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 98K okt 18 2005 20:17 Manual.pdf drwxrwxr-x 2 motub 240 sep 04 2005 17:45 misc drwxrwxr-x 3 motub 1,3K dec 09 2005 21:46 miscpost drwxrwxr-x 8 motub 5,7K mei 29 2005 16:32 misctech -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 1,7K jul 13 2005 13:52 more_what\ works.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 1,4K jul 02 2005 02:24 more_what\ works.txt~ drwxrwxr-x 2 motub 3,3K okt 19 2005 01:38 my_scripts -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 262 okt 04 2005 17:03 new_wine_install_notes.txt -rwxrwxr-x 1 motub 2,6K jul 01 2004 20:28 nfo.nfo drwxrwxr-x 2 motub 2,3K dec 24 2005 15:42 output -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub 5,3K nov 06 2004 02:48 readme-queen.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 motub 50K nov 06 2004 02:48 README-scummvm.txt drwxr-xr-- 2 motub 120 okt 18 2005 20:41 registry drwx-- 2 motub 112 jun 15 2005 14:55 .Trash-motub -rw-r--r-- 1 motub 74K jun 16 2005 17:24 what_works.html which is much more informative for me with 1) the group names removed and 2) a more comprehensive and comprehensible date and size display. Don't think I really need the inodes (if that's what they are, I couldn't quite deciper info ls that far) before the owner name, but I can live with that. The output doesn't even wrap in T-bird anymore, it's so compact :D . Anyway, not quite what I asked for, but it will definitely do. And I kinda learned how to use info. Thanks for all the help! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [SOLVED]
Abhay Kedia schreef: On Saturday 07 January 2006 23:24, Holly Bostick wrote: What might that be.? Does something need to be re-initialized? Some cache updated? I'm getting a bit confused here. afaik etc-update does not reinitialize anything. All it looks for are files that have been named in a specific way. It diffs the original file with its update and then asks you whether to overwrite or not. You can delete the ._cfg files or let them be. They will not cause you any problems. OK, thanks-- I will add as a final note that I also needed to run cfg-update -i to get cfg-update to recalculate its checksum index, after which it also stopped complaining. So I'll consider this solved (even though I didn't delete the ._cfg files, but then how often do I look in /usr/lib/X11/symbols?) and stop worrying about it. Thanks! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted Windows partition
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 01:22 +, Mick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I think someone's asked this before here, but I don't remember the answer; How do I make it where regular users can read, execute, and possibly write files on my mounted Windows XP partition? The only thing I use Windows for anymore is playing DirectX games, and I'm emerging wine now. I noticed that my personal account gets Permission denied when trying to ls /mnt/windows and I don't want to have to use the root account unnecessarily... Yep, I asked this a couple of days ago, but the title could be misleading: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/150416 The trick is to allow others to access and read the partition in your fstab. Setting uid=222 allows the partition to be mounted with r-x rights for all concerned. -- Regards, Mick I looked at man mount (as suggested in the link you sent me) and then only mention of NTFS was the iocharset option. How would I go about setting up a umask in /etc/fstab to accomplish this? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff [Probably SOLVED]
John Myers schreef: On Saturday 07 January 2006 10:37, Holly Bostick wrote: No. I don't actually use colordiff standalone, so no reason. I did, however, have an (unnecessary) alias around etc-update, which I have now removed, allowing it to rely solely on its sudo entry. But since I don't have any updates to diff until I get my other little problem fixed, Try changing your 'pager' variable in etc-update.conf from 'less' to 'less -R'. Thank you John. During the course my various arguments with ~/.bashrc today (after reading this), I also happened across a note in man tsportageview (don't ask, whole 'nother story) which said: -s, --use-less Filter the output through less -Rh0 (good colour support) So it seems pretty clear that the -R switch is essential for color support. I adjusted my pager command to include it and think that it's likely to work properly now. But of course I never would have noticed that the switch in man tsportageview confirmed that -R is really needed for color support in less (despite having skimmed man less), if you hadn't said so first. So thank you very much. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted Windows partition
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 19:47 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 01:22 +, Mick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I think someone's asked this before here, but I don't remember the answer; How do I make it where regular users can read, execute, and possibly write files on my mounted Windows XP partition? The only thing I use Windows for anymore is playing DirectX games, and I'm emerging wine now. I noticed that my personal account gets Permission denied when trying to ls /mnt/windows and I don't want to have to use the root account unnecessarily... Yep, I asked this a couple of days ago, but the title could be misleading: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/150416 The trick is to allow others to access and read the partition in your fstab. Setting uid=222 allows the partition to be mounted with r-x rights for all concerned. -- Regards, Mick I looked at man mount (as suggested in the link you sent me) and then only mention of NTFS was the iocharset option. How would I go about setting up a umask in /etc/fstab to accomplish this? Nevermind. I figured it out. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [SOLVED]
Holly Bostick schreef: Abhay Kedia schreef: afaik etc-update does not reinitialize anything. All it looks for are files that have been named in a specific way. It diffs the original file with its update and then asks you whether to overwrite or not. You can delete the ._cfg files or let them be. They will not cause you any problems. OK, thanks-- I will add as a final note that I also needed to run cfg-update -i to get cfg-update to recalculate its checksum index, after which it also stopped complaining. So I'll consider this solved (even though I didn't delete the ._cfg files, but then how often do I look in /usr/lib/X11/symbols?) and stop worrying about it. Final final note-- I just did an emerge, and suddenly etc-update had something it wanted to update... the 30 files. cfg-update still didn't know anything about them, so I just did a -5 (yes, I know, I *never* do that, this is really the very first time I have) and *finally* replaced them (most likely with themselves since I upgraded then downgraded to the same version of Xorg I had originally upgraded from). /Now/ this issue is finally done. What a relief! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Irritating problem #2-- colordiff [SOLVED confirmed]
Holly Bostick schreef: John Myers schreef: Try changing your 'pager' variable in etc-update.conf from 'less' to 'less -R'. I adjusted my pager command to include it and think that it's likely to work properly now. Confirmed that it does in fact work properly now, etc-update displays the diffs in color. Thank you again! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [Date issue SOLVED]
On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't think I really need the inodes (if that's what they are, I That is link count. For a regular file, it tells how many hard links exist to the file. For a directory, it tells how many files are in that directory +2, since . and .. count as links. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [Date issue SOLVED]
Richard Fish schreef: On 1/7/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't think I really need the inodes (if that's what they are, I That is link count. For a regular file, it tells how many hard links exist to the file. For a directory, it tells how many files are in that directory +2, since . and .. count as links. -Richard Oh, thanks. They *are* useful then (not that everything isn't useful, but I guess I mean to me), so I'll eye them with more respect in the future. :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] world file cheating
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 06:39:33PM +, James wrote Hello, Some time ago, I copied a world file (/var/lib/portage/world) from a system with lots of installed software to a 'clone' system newly installed with gentoo Now 'emaint --check world' suggests that not all of those packages have been installed. (Busted). I was not responsible enough to verify that the clone was 100% similar with the identical ebuilds. I thought I had found a way to duplicate the installed software, merely by copying the world file from another system. I don't know if it's generally possible, because there are so many ways to get from-here-to-there. The following is my *ENTIRE* world file. Yes, I'm running Blackbox WM on X. Three guesses on how I managed to do this. [m3000][root][~] cat /var/lib/portage/world media-sound/alsa-utils media-sound/mpg123 sys-fs/reiserfsprogs app-text/xpdf net-misc/urlview sys-kernel/linux-headers sys-boot/lilo media-gfx/gimp app-office/gnumeric app-admin/sudo net-misc/rdate net-analyzer/traceroute x11-misc/fbpanel app-admin/syslog-ng media-video/mplayer media-sound/xmms x11-misc/bbkeys media-gfx/gqview app-office/abiword sys-process/dcron net-dialup/pppconfig net-mail/getmail mail-client/mutt net-nntp/slrn net-misc/whois media-video/realplayer sys-libs/glibc www-client/mozilla-firefox app-editors/nano app-arch/gzip sys-kernel/gentoo-sources app-admin/logrotate sys-devel/gettext net-firewall/iptables app-portage/gentoolkit mail-filter/procmail app-editors/vim app-misc/mc -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e world stop at ncruses no error
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 08:17:01PM -0800, Ken Robbins wrote I just updated to gcc4.0.2 went ok did emerge -e system went good then updated portage now I trying to do emerge -e world it start off ok till it get to ncurses start off in that ok, but then stop go back to the prompt no error no noting to tell me what going on, before this I remove some blockage faad2 xpdf anyone know what up on this? You're going to have a hard time believing this. I ran into this same problem some time ago on an older machine. The solution is to set MAKEOPTS=-j1 in /etc/make.conf and restart the emerge. There are one or two other packages for which this is necessary. I simply leave -j1 on all the time. It's not worth the hassle when a compile blows up occasionally, and then switch MAKEOPTS back and forth. Yes, emerges are a bit slower, but consider how much time you save versus how much this one incident has cost you. Besides, you can usually emerge while working, or fire it up before going to bed. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ls date was: Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [Date issue SOLVED]
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:41:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Holly Bostick squawked: A-HA The 'Info' command, which I also always forget, not least because I don't know how to navigate info files. But this caused me to take another whack at it, and I got along well enough to find a mostly acceptable way to reform the la alias to the following: alias la=ls --color -lAGbh --time-style='+%b %d %Y %H:%M' How about alias ls='ls --color --time-style=+%b %d %Y %H:%M' Really no need to link a command you are so familiar with to another name. [10:30 PM]wwong Sanskrit CD $ alias ls='ls --color --time-style=+%b %d %Y %H:%M' [10:30 PM]wwong Sanskrit CD $ ls track01.mp3 track03.mp3 track05.mp3 track07.mp3 track09.mp3 track02.mp3 track04.mp3 track06.mp3 track08.mp3 [10:31 PM]wwong Sanskrit CD $ ls -l total 141484 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 45646253 Sep 13 2004 00:41 track01.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 5120539 Sep 13 2004 00:42 track02.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 7508899 Sep 13 2004 00:44 track03.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 10678627 Sep 13 2004 00:46 track04.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 8695930 Sep 13 2004 00:48 track05.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 17730432 Dec 11 2004 08:57 track06.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 16987392 Dec 11 2004 08:58 track07.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 14897664 Dec 11 2004 09:01 track08.mp3 -rw-r--r-- 1 wwong root 17447040 Dec 11 2004 09:03 track09.mp3 W -- I'll get to something useful in a moment. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 56 days, 19:48 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:42:09 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, I tried setting up the evilwm stuff from the MythTV section on the Gentoo wiki. I ran kdm and selected Custom and logged in as my test user. The screen cleared and then it spit me back out at the kdm login screen. I looked at /var/log/kdm.log and everything looks normal to me: You didn't do anything wrong. And I'm not sure why it's kicking you back out. In my case, I run XDM and use Enlightenment as the window manager. With both being defined in /etc/rc.conf. Mythfrontend does run fine with that combo. One thing I note is the backend is still telling you that mythsetup hasn't been run to attach a channel to the port and to the rest of the setup. That step is not detailed in the wiki. You need to assign the those via mythsetup, before running the front end Surf to - http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html and scroll down to jusr passed the STOP sign, and work through - Mythtv-setup. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 19:50 -0800, Bob Sanders wrote: On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:42:09 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, I tried setting up the evilwm stuff from the MythTV section on the Gentoo wiki. I ran kdm and selected Custom and logged in as my test user. The screen cleared and then it spit me back out at the kdm login screen. I looked at /var/log/kdm.log and everything looks normal to me: You didn't do anything wrong. And I'm not sure why it's kicking you back out. In my case, I run XDM and use Enlightenment as the window manager. With both being defined in /etc/rc.conf. Mythfrontend does run fine with that combo. One thing I note is the backend is still telling you that mythsetup hasn't been run to attach a channel to the port and to the rest of the setup. That step is not detailed in the wiki. You need to assign the those via mythsetup, before running the front end Surf to - http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html and scroll down to jusr passed the STOP sign, and work through - Mythtv-setup. Bob - I followed the howto. When I finished mythfilldatabase the last output was: Adjusting program database end times... 0 replacements made. Marking repeats...found 0 Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 0 2006-01-07 22:12:13.548 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.3:6543 (try 1 of 5) Connection timed out. You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address. error resceduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange Should mythbackend be running when I run mythfilldatabase? The howto seemed to suggest not... mythbackend keeps dying. Here's the output: camille ~ # mythbackend 2006-01-07 22:15:28.054 New DB connection, total: 1 Starting up as the master server. 2006-01-07 22:15:28.099 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-01-07 22:15:28.138 New DB scheduler connection 2006-01-07 22:15:28.163 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-01-07 22:15:28.163 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-01-07 22:15:30.159 Reschedule requested for id -1. 2006-01-07 22:15:30.186 Scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.02 match + 0.01 place 2006-01-07 22:15:30.203 Seem to be woken up by USER 2006-01-07 22:15:38.165 New DB connection, total: 3 Killed There's no mythbackend.log in /var/log/mythtv (there usually is when there's an error), and if I just restart mythbackend it seems to stay up, though I can't figure out why it's doing it. Here's more output: camille ~ # mythbackend 2006-01-07 22:31:50.420 New DB connection, total: 1 Starting up as the master server. 2006-01-07 22:31:50.602 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-01-07 22:31:50.968 New DB scheduler connection 2006-01-07 22:31:51.145 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-01-07 22:31:51.146 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-01-07 22:31:52.982 Reschedule requested for id -1. 2006-01-07 22:31:53.156 Scheduled 0 items in 0.1 = 0.01 match + 0.10 place 2006-01-07 22:31:53.165 Seem to be woken up by USER 2006-01-07 22:32:01.149 New DB connection, total: 3 2006-01-07 22:32:01.276 New DB connection, total: 4 2006-01-07 22:32:01.311 New DB connection, total: 5 2006-01-07 22:32:22.076 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 22:32:22.077 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 22:32:22.111 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 22:32:22.111 adding: camille as a client (events: 1) 2006-01-07 22:32:22.132 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 22:32:22.133 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 22:32:22.171 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-07 22:32:22.171 adding: camille as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-07 22:32:22.190 adding: camille as a remote ringbuffer 2006-01-07 22:32:22.294 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2006-01-07 22:32:22.413 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument 2006-01-07 22:32:22.450 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped Killed mythfrontend is no longer freezing up after a 1.5 seconds (or as far as I can tell it's not) Instead it's just giving me a blank screen. On a previous run it told me that I should go into TV Settings-Recording Profiles-Sofware Encoders and set them up. I found them in mythfrontend and selected their default settings. Now it still dies and I still get the blank screen in mythfrontend... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [SOLVED]
Just on a side note, etc-update will soon be deprecated. Try dispatch-conf. This will be the tool to use in future for config updates. Regards, Abhay pgpscWY8J76WR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need MythTV setup help (resend)
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 19:50 -0800, Bob Sanders wrote: On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 18:42:09 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, I tried setting up the evilwm stuff from the MythTV section on the Gentoo wiki. I ran kdm and selected Custom and logged in as my test user. The screen cleared and then it spit me back out at the kdm login screen. I looked at /var/log/kdm.log and everything looks normal to me: You didn't do anything wrong. And I'm not sure why it's kicking you back out. In my case, I run XDM and use Enlightenment as the window manager. With both being defined in /etc/rc.conf. Mythfrontend does run fine with that combo. One thing I note is the backend is still telling you that mythsetup hasn't been run to attach a channel to the port and to the rest of the setup. That step is not detailed in the wiki. You need to assign the those via mythsetup, before running the front end Surf to - http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html and scroll down to jusr passed the STOP sign, and work through - Mythtv-setup. Bob - I tried the test cat /dev/video0 test.mpg and opening it in mplayer and all I got was the blank screen. I tried it with /dev/video24 and got static and with /dev/video32 I got weird polygonal images. I think mythfrontend is freezing up after that 1.5 seconds because it takes awhile to get back to the menu screen. Why is /dev/video spitting out nothing now, when it was just fine before I followed the mythtv howto? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre etc/cfg-update problem [SOLVED]
Abhay Kedia wrote: Just on a side note, etc-update will soon be deprecated. Try dispatch-conf. This will be the tool to use in future for config updates. Regards, Abhay This figures. I finally got used to etc-update and they are taking it away. I didn't like dispatch-conf. Sorry. It's hard to teach a old dog new tricks. :-( I think I'll go take a nap before I start learning that thing, again. Dale :-) Z. -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] jre question
Hi all, I did an 'emerge --sync' tonight. One of the items on my list of updates was sun-jre-bin. Of course, the procedure is to download the binary from sun and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles. Prior to downloading, I unmerge (or thought I did), the previous installation of jre. However, after downloading the new version and checking /usr/portage/distfiles/, I discovered that there are about 3 other versions of sun-jre-bin in this directory. Can these be removed? Also, despite the unmerge, there are 3 other sun-jre-bin-version directories in /opt. Can these also be safely removed? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrade + gcc dilemma
Just got my laptop back up after having been down for awhile and it is in dire need of an upgrade. After syncing, a -uDvp world showed about 100 packages needing upgrading, one of which was gcc, from 3.3 to 3.4. I decided to do it first since most packages seemed dependent on it so headed over to the GCC migration guide and followed the instructions. I noticed that it said I might have some problems if I used the revdep-rebuild method so I decided to use the emerge -e method instead. Followed the instructions up to the point of issuing an emerge -e and then I realized it would rebuild the 100 packages that would then shortly be upgraded. Or if I did the upgrade first, the emerge -e would recompile the packages I had just upgraded. So, my problem is, how do I avoid the extra 100, unnecessary compiles? I tried emerge --emptytree --upgrade -p but it ignored the upgrade option so I can't combine them that way. Should I backup and use the revdep-rebuild method after the upgrade? Would it avoid compiling the packages just upgraded? I seems a possible solution would be to do the upgrade but save a list of the packages to be upgraded. Make a 2nd list of the packages to be recompiled with the --emptytree option. Remove the upgraded packages from the emptytree list and, using some command line involving xargs, recompile the remaining packages in the emptytree list. I apologize for any obtuseness and over-complexity here and I realize, that in the time spent asking the question, I probably could have had the compiles done by now. However the laptop runs hot and I want to avoid the extra stress on it. Any thoughts? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
