date:20060525

On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:00:28 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:

Is it adviseable to arrange to automatically delete all temporary
 files when booting?
If so, how to do this?

Edit /etc/conf.d/bootmisc and set WIPE_TMP=yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:17:27 -0400, Jeff wrote:

 Good Lord man... why would you want to compile OO from source?
 
 emerge openoffice-bin

Maybe because he is using an architecture for which the bin package is
not available? It takes around 16 hours to compile 2.0.2 on my laptop.
but it's better than using 1.1.2.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.

On Thu, 25 May 2006 04:50:41 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

  I tried to build OpenOffice from source. After hours of copmiling it
  fails with:

**
ERROR: ERROR: Could not register all components!
in function: create_services_rdb
**
This looks like the error I was getting, see
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126587. The solution was twofold,
first re-emerge the latest hunspell, then emerge openoffice-2.0.2-r2 (not
the r1 you are trying).

  PS: I symlinked /var/tmp/portags to /tmp/portage (I carefully copied
  all permissions settings...) due to space problems.

That's a bit kludgy. Why not set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to a suitable directory,
either in make.conf or when running the emerge.


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Re: [gentoo-user] unknown process filled up /tmp partition

2006-05-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen

Thursday 25 May 2006 04:00 skrev Alan E. Davis:
 Is it adviseable to arrange to automatically delete all temporary
 files when booting?
 If so, how to do this?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_clean_/tmp

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[gentoo-user] disenable distcc during emerging special package

2006-05-25 Thread Bobber Cheng


Hi,

I used to emerge packages with distcc on my laptop connected tow power 
server, and it's great. But today distcc cause c-client to fail to 
compile. I have to edit make.conf to disenable distcc feature. The worse 
is that I'm emerge other packages simultaneously, while change of 
make.conf effect all running emerges.


I'm looking forward to a way to disenable distcc during emerging special 
package just like USE=sqllite emerge qt.


Bests,
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Re: [gentoo-user] disenable distcc during emerging special package

On Thu, 25 May 2006 15:39:12 +0800, Bobber Cheng wrote:

 I'm looking forward to a way to disenable distcc during emerging
 special package just like USE=sqllite emerge qt.

FEATURES=-distcc emerge c-client


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Re: [gentoo-user] content of /usr/portage/distfile

2006-05-25 Thread Alex


Allan Gottlieb wrote:

You have to do experiments.  It depends heavily on your application
mix.


Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. time 
bzip2 -9 foobar wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've switched to -Os and 
soon I can test, if it's a real difference.


Thank you!

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[gentoo-user] Re: No space left on device: Am I allowed...

2006-05-25 Thread Caster

Note that emerge shouldn't be leaving stuff there unless you're using FEATURES (meant for debugging) like 'noclean', 'keeptemp' or 'keepwork' in your make.conf, or unless emerge crashes during the build.Caster

[gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh and gcc problems...

2006-05-25 Thread Arnau Bria

Hi folks,

a copule of days ago I did a gentoo 2006 fresh install.
During the installation, I modified CHOST and the link to /etc/profile,
so now I have:

lx-arnau ~ # !grep
grep CHOST /etc/make.conf
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
# ls -l /etc/make.profile
/etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/

I have tuned it in older installs, so I did it in new one... (I've seen
in forums some people advertising that CHOST flags must not be
changed). I also modified profile cause it pointed to no-nptl/ one...

Well, I emerged my full system (kdebase, amarok, SC, etc...) and after
that I left an emerge -uD world wich failed with:
 emerge (1 of 21) sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r2 to /
[...]
i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG
-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mtune=i686 -fPIC
-I/usr/include/python2.4 -c missingos.c -o
build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/missingos.o gcc-config error: Could not
run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc error: command
'i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1

Si, I looked for this error in forums.
I found a howto for this problem, wich said:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-321340-highlight-fixlibto
olfiles+sh+3+4+4+oldarch+i386pclinuxgnu.html
(careful with the wrapped line if you want to open link)
so I did:

# gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 *
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp

For what I see, I only have a compiler, but, I did some
fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.5 and other combinations looking for a
solution.

Well, I did not find it, and now, I think I have missconfigured my gcc,
cause, trying to emerge kdeartwork-kscreensaver I got this error:

[...]
/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500
-D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W
-Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe
-Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common  -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib
-L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/lib-R /usr/kde/3.4/lib -R /usr/kde/3.4/lib
-R /usr/qt/3/lib -R /usr/lib  -o kbanner.kss  banner.o -lkdeui
-lkscreensaver libtool: link: cannot find the library
`/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/libstdc++.la' make[4]: ***
^^
[kbanner.kss] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/work/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/kscreensaver/kdesavers'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/work/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/kscreensaver/kdesavers'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/work/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/kscreensaver'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3/work/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-3.4.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

As you could see, cc is looking for libstdc++.la in 3.4.4 directory,
but it's in 3.4.5 dir...

So, my questions:

1.-) Do I have missconfigured my gcc?¿

2.-) How may I fix it?

3.-) May tune CHOST and make.profile? 

Many thanks to all the people who have read all the post!
Cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread CapSel


On 5/25/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Make a backup.  Now.

When you start seeing 'end_request: I/O error', it's always (in my
experience) been a sign of a disk getting ready to pack it in.

Double check physical connections, make sure no wires are loose; if
S.M.A.R.T. is available, check its status - but I highly doubt a
software issue here.
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Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks. Is there any
other tool to check S.M.A.R.T. on this kind of disks?

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread Jarry


CapSel wrote:


Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.


More exactly:

Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers
in drivers/ide. If you use the new libata drivers, it won't work
correctly because libata doesn't yet support the needed
ATA-passthrough ioctl() calls. (smartmontools.sourceforge.net)

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck

smartmontools does in fact support SATA disks starting with kernel 2.6.15.

Use the '-d ata' argument with SATA disks and it will work fine.

For example: # smartmontools -d ata -a /dev/sda

On Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:03, CapSel wrote:
 Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks. Is there any
 other tool to check S.M.A.R.T. on this kind of disks?

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Re: [gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh and gcc problems...

On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:16:25 +0200, Arnau Bria wrote:

 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 *
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
 
 For what I see, I only have a compiler, but, I did some
 fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.5 and other combinations looking for a
 solution.

You run fix_libtool_files.sh with the old compiler version, the version
that the ebuild is looking for but failing to find, which would appear to
be 3.4.4 from your errors. you also need to add an option to fix the
changed CHOST

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.4 --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu

Run it with no arguments for an explanation of the options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread CapSel


On 5/25/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.

More exactly:

Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers
in drivers/ide. If you use the new libata drivers, it won't work
correctly because libata doesn't yet support the needed
ATA-passthrough ioctl() calls. (smartmontools.sourceforge.net)

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How to set up a SATA disk to be seen as IDE disk to the kernel?
Can this be done by adding something to kernel command line in grub? I
used genkernel to compile kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck

These are supported by libata as of kernel 2.6.15

On Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:09, Jarry wrote:
 CapSel wrote:
  Unfortunately smartmontools does not support SATA disks.

 More exactly:

 Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both
 Linux 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers
 in drivers/ide. If you use the new libata drivers, it won't work
 correctly because libata doesn't yet support the needed
 ATA-passthrough ioctl() calls. (smartmontools.sourceforge.net)

 Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA raptor failure - why?

2006-05-25 Thread CapSel


On 5/25/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

smartmontools does in fact support SATA disks starting with kernel 2.6.15.

Use the '-d ata' argument with SATA disks and it will work fine.

For example: # smartmontools -d ata -a /dev/sda


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Thank you very much :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh and gcc problems...

2006-05-25 Thread Arnau Bria

On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:44:42 +0100
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 You run fix_libtool_files.sh with the old compiler version, the
 version that the ebuild is looking for but failing to find, which
 would appear to be 3.4.4 from your errors. you also need to add an
 option to fix the changed CHOST
 
 fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.4 --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu
Ok, runnning that I solved my problem with kscreensvaer...
but not the one with -uD world

It still says 
gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc ...

 Run it with no arguments for an explanation of the options.
Thanks to both for the solution,

Regards,

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[gentoo-user] can't use usb scanner

2006-05-25 Thread Stefán István

Hello!
I have a Canon usb scanner and I have problem using it with xsane.
The sane-find-scanner finds it:
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan], 
chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:003:004

But scainmage -L doesn't find it.

I don't know what to do next. 
If I just simply start xsane, it says that no devices available. I think I 
have to specify the device name of the scanner, but I don't know what it's 
name.

Thanks for the help in advance,
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Re: [gentoo-user] content of /usr/portage/distfile

2006-05-25 Thread Allan Gottlieb

At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 You have to do experiments.  It depends heavily on your application
 mix.

 Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. time
 bzip2 -9 foobar wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've switched to -Os
 and soon I can test, if it's a real difference.

Please report back your findings, including the application mix you
tested.  Although scientific timed benchmarks are important, I would
also be interested in how the system feels.  For the latter (feels),
you should qualitatively describe the use of the system (web server,
desktop, laptop, etc) and what you commonly run (program devel, games,
scientific/engineering apps, etc).

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] content of /usr/portage/distfile

2006-05-25 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Philip Webb wrote:
 My experience is that 'eclean' is not efficient at removing
 things, so I've gone back to removing out-of-date distfiles by
 hand.

Not even 'eclean-dist --destructive' is enough?

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[gentoo-user] firefox hangs frequently...

2006-05-25 Thread fei huang


well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
solution through google.

every time I click on the save link as or save image as, firefox
immediately stops responding, It is said that the problem might be
caused by the permissions of my last visited folder, but ALL folders
and files are accessible. I firstly use a new profile, no luck; safe
mode, no use of course; re-emerge it seemed to make it working for
only several minutes.  besides, it hangs while loading some pages.

I'm using fvwm 2.5.16 and mozilla-firefox-bin 1.5.0.3.

any ideas~  thanks in advance..

daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting BC not to truncate at the decimal point?

2006-05-25 Thread John Green

Mike Huber wrote:

 Hi,
I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the
 version installed through portage truncates on
 multiplication/division.  It didn't used to do this 2 years ago when I
 was taking number theory, and there are no USE flags available for
 sys-devel/bc to change this.  From the manpage:

 -

 The most basic element in bc is the number.  Numbers are arbitrary
 precision numbers.  This precision is both in
 the  integer  part  and  the fractional part.  All numbers are
 represented internally in decimal and all computation is done in
 decimal.  ( This  version  truncates  results from divide and multiply
 operations.)  There are two attributes of numbers, the length and the
 scale.  The length is the total number of significant  decimal  digits
 in a number and the scale is the total number of decimal digits after
 the decimal point.  For example:
.01 has a length of 6 and scale of 6.
1935.000 has a length of 7 and a scale of 3.


 


 Anyone have any ideas?

 --Mike

Hi,

Try this.

$ echo '1/5' | bc
0
$ echo '1/5' | bc -l
.2000

I don't think bc has changed in a long time.
Maybe you forgot the -l option.

You can also control the scale explicitly like this.

echo 'scale=3;1/5' | bc -l
.200

Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] content of /usr/portage/distfile

2006-05-25 Thread Alex


Allan Gottlieb wrote:

At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Allan Gottlieb wrote:


You have to do experiments.  It depends heavily on your application
mix.


Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. time
bzip2 -9 foobar wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've switched to -Os
and soon I can test, if it's a real difference.



Please report back your findings, including the application mix you
tested.  Although scientific timed benchmarks are important, I would
also be interested in how the system feels.  For the latter (feels),
you should qualitatively describe the use of the system (web server,
desktop, laptop, etc) and what you commonly run (program devel, games,
scientific/engineering apps, etc).

thanks,
allan


Hi,

I've a desktop system and I commonly use applications like firefox, 
thunderbird and so on, kde, gaim and a terminal is nearly always there. 
Sometimes I'm running vim or kate.


If you're interested in some tests, not relevant for desktop systems, 
there are some I made:


Time wasted to compress a 416 mb tar:
bzip2   gzip
-O3 2m40.882s   1m20.445s
-Os 2m39.314s   1m21.157s

decompress:
bzip2   gzip
-O3 0m52.575s   0m4.972s
-Os 0m53.387s   0m4.828s

Convert 203 Mbs MP3s to WAV using LAME:
-O3 14m4.461s
-Os 16m50.599s

from wav to mp3:
-O3 1m1.708s
-Os 1m12.841s

Now I'm emerging -e world with -Os. When it is finished, I'll mail you 
the results.


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[gentoo-user] emerge rxvt nearly caused my system to die today...

2006-05-25 Thread Jeff

Emerging rxvt almost killed my box today - I watched gawk inside 'top'
eating 100% CPU and even 100% RAM/swap.

Anyone ever see this before?

DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32 per-cpu: empty
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:26
cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:60
cpu 1 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:28
cpu 1 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:53
HighMem per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:4
cpu 0 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:7
cpu 1 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:6
cpu 1 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:2
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32 per-cpu: empty
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:26
cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:60
cpu 1 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:28
cpu 1 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:53
HighMem per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:4
cpu 0 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:13
cpu 1 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:6
cpu 1 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:11
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32 per-cpu: empty
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:26
cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:49
cpu 1 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:26
cpu 1 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:44
HighMem per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:4
cpu 0 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:13
cpu 1 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:6
cpu 1 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:2
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32 per-cpu: empty
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:25
cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:40
cpu 1 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:25
cpu 1 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:52
HighMem per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:4
cpu 0 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:13
cpu 1 hot: high 42, batch 7 used:6
cpu 1 cold: high 14, batch 3 used:2
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 0 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 hot: high 0, batch 1 used:0
cpu 1 cold: high 0, batch 1 used:0
DMA32 per-cpu: empty
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: high 186, batch 31 used:24
cpu 0 cold: high 62, batch 15 used:40

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[gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains

Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated, confused or just
downright broken. I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I don't even
remember how I set them up. They Just Ran (TM).

For a short while, ssh connections to here (home) from work have taken an
unusually long time to establish. I thought it was something to do with my
domain registration, which was changing at the same time, but that has settled
down (I think). And I've been too busy surviving a car crash and attendant
medical problems to be exactly on top of the situation.

Now I cannot seem to make a connection at all, and I can't make much sense
out of the setup I have.

First, I have both an
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Re: [gentoo-user] content of /usr/portage/distfile

2006-05-25 Thread Allan Gottlieb

At Thu, 25 May 2006 18:21:39 + Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 At Thu, 25 May 2006 10:40:26 + Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Allan Gottlieb wrote:

You have to do experiments.  It depends heavily on your application
mix.

Yes, that would be the best, but I'm wondering how, because e.g. time
bzip2 -9 foobar wouldn't be helpfull. So now I've switched to -Os
and soon I can test, if it's a real difference.
 Please report back your findings, including the application mix you
 tested.  Although scientific timed benchmarks are important, I would
 also be interested in how the system feels.  For the latter (feels),
 you should qualitatively describe the use of the system (web server,
 desktop, laptop, etc) and what you commonly run (program devel, games,
 scientific/engineering apps, etc).
 thanks,
 allan

 Hi,

 I've a desktop system and I commonly use applications like firefox,
 thunderbird and so on, kde, gaim and a terminal is nearly always
 there. Sometimes I'm running vim or kate.

 If you're interested in some tests, not relevant for desktop systems,
 there are some I made:

 Time wasted to compress a 416 mb tar:
  bzip2   gzip
 -O3 2m40.882s   1m20.445s
 -Os 2m39.314s   1m21.157s

 decompress:
  bzip2   gzip
 -O3 0m52.575s   0m4.972s
 -Os 0m53.387s   0m4.828s

 Convert 203 Mbs MP3s to WAV using LAME:
 -O3 14m4.461s
 -Os 16m50.599s

 from wav to mp3:
 -O3 1m1.708s
 -Os 1m12.841s

 Now I'm emerging -e world with -Os. When it is finished, I'll mail you
 the results.

The conversion programs you ran might not stress the memory system.  I
suspect that they only keep a fixed size portion of the input and
output files in memory when you run them with ever larger inputs.

allan
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[gentoo-user] Launching X.org through ssh

2006-05-25 Thread Rafael Fernández López

Hi,

I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.

If I try a startx command, it will start X.org in the local computer,
and I'd like to run it into the remote computer, as you would do with RDP
for example.

Thank you,
Rafael Fernandez Lopez.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Launching X.org through ssh

2006-05-25 Thread Toby Cubitt

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:09:38PM +0200, Rafael Fern?ndez L?pez wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
 running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
 through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.
 
 If I try a startx command, it will start X.org in the local computer,
 and I'd like to run it into the remote computer, as you would do with RDP
 for example.

That won't work. When you run an X program (client) on the remote
box, it connects to your local X server so you see the remotely
running client on your local display. But the X server itself is, as
the name suggests, a server for X, not a client.

You should look into VNC (there are a number of versions in portage),
or maybe freeNX. In my experience, freeNX gives better performance,
but VNC is easier to set up, especially if you connect via ssh (as you
should). FreeNX is usually used to forward single applications, not
whole desktops, but recent versions can also forward whole
desktops. (It can even connect to VNC sessions.)

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Launching X.org through ssh

2006-05-25 Thread Alan

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:09:38PM +0200, Rafael Fern?ndez L?pez wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
 running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
 through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.
 
 If I try a startx command, it will start X.org in the local computer,
 and I'd like to run it into the remote computer, as you would do with RDP
 for example.

I don't think that X works this way.  You'd need to use vnc or nx I
believe.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Launching X.org through ssh

2006-05-25 Thread Mauro Faccenda

On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:09, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm connecting from a computer (remote computer) to a server (sshd, it is
 running apache2 too, but it doesn't matter right now), and I can connect
 through ssh to it, and run every command all right, but launching X.org.

 If I try a startx command, it will start X.org in the local computer,
 and I'd like to run it into the remote computer, as you would do with RDP
 for example.

You must have a xserver (X.org) running on your computer, and with 
X11forwarding enabled, you can run graphical (X) programs on a remote box. 
You can even, start a DE (kde, gnome, fluxbox, etc...)

[]'s
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[gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


I think I may have made a break through here!

I've always noticed that everything portage is very slow.  It's like
it's having to un-tar and un-bzip everything all the time...  lo and
behold, it is.

I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
/portage-20060123.tar.bz2

This has - to the best of my knowledge - all the ebuild headers or
whatever for everything.  I know I can un-tar this and all, however, I
want portage to use it in its uncompressed state, just to speed things
up.  I'm not burning for hard drive space, so a little more speed
would be great.

However, I have no idea where to start to try and configure portage to
reflect a change like this.  I've read the man pages for ebuild and
emerge several times over without finding any hints, so I was thinking
someone on this list would know.

I also think that there's another file, /metadata.tar.bz2, which I
think is portage-related.  If possible I'd like to uncompress that as
well.

I think this is the cause of a slow portage because everything takes a
long time to start going, then it's just fine.  It takes about as long
to start going as it does to open the archive
/portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!

I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!  Dang...  I got done and said
that was easy.  I think I'm really getting the hang of all this!

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[gentoo-user] SSH/SSH2 hosed, partially fixed, some rubble remains

I've been using ssh and/or ssh2 daemons on this gentoo system for so long I've forgottenhow I had it set up. Now it's broken, and I have no idea how it got that way.

At first, it was just taking a long time to connect to this system (home) from work and ask
for a password. Now it is still slow, but it just does not respond at all after the password is
entered. Also at first, I imagined that I was really having a problem relating to my domain
registration being changed, but now that has pretty much settled down. To make things
just a bit more difficult, I've been too busy surviving a car crash and dealing with associated
medical issues to pay enough attention to this.

Anyway, here is some of what I find in the rubble:
I have both
/etc/init.d/sshd
and /etc/init.d/sshd2

I can start and stop sshd, but not sshd2, which complains it's not configured. File
timestamps indicate that sshd2 stuff has not changed since some time in 2004.
Moreover, equery belongs cannot locate any package that owns the sshd2 files.
The sshd files belong to net-misc/openssh-4.3_p2-r1.

AHAH! I've already solved part of the problem, because when I start sshd, I get this:

treat init.d # ./sshd start
ldap_simple_bind_s(): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
[LDAP] could not initialize ldap connection
* Starting sshd ...
ldap_simple_bind_s(): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
[LDAP] could not initialize ldap
connection
[ ok ]
treat init.d #

This baffled me a bit. I'm not aware of having or running or using any LDAP server.
I never have. I notice that there are some LDAP-related things in sshd_config.

SOLVED speed problems when I commented these out. There's still a mystery to
me though. I'm quite sure I did not change them myself and the last emerge was
2 years ago according to /var/log/emerge/log. What I may have done is to adjust X11
forwarding.

STILL TROUBLING:
why did LDAP get turned on? Whodunnit?
why do I have orphaned sshd2 things?

STILL BROKEN:
Although I can now ssh to my system, with no noticeable delays, I cannot scp because
it still hangs after the password is entered. (I can just ssh and then do the scp backwards,
however).

Can anyone help me debug this? What else should I be looking at?

--Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

[gentoo-user] Re: SSH hosed, only rubble remains

IGNORE this posting. It was a fumble-fingers. Corrected and completed posting follows.On 5/25/06, Kevin O'Gorman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated, confused or just

downright broken. I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I don't even
remember how I set them up. They Just Ran (TM).

For a short while, ssh connections to here (home) from work have taken an
unusually long time to establish. I thought it was something to do with my
domain registration, which was changing at the same time, but that has settled
down (I think). And I've been too busy surviving a car crash and attendant
medical problems to be exactly on top of the situation.

Now I cannot seem to make a connection at all, and I can't make much sense
out of the setup I have.

First, I have both an
/etc/init.d/sshd-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains

2006-05-25 Thread John Jolet



On May 25, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

Somewhere along the line, ssh and ssh2 have gotten conflated,  
confused or just
downright broken.  I have been running ssh daemon(s) for so long I  
don't even

remember how I set them up.  They Just Ran (TM).

For a short while, ssh connections to here (home) from work have  
taken an
unusually long time to establish.  I thought it was something to do  
with my
domain registration, which was changing at the same time, but that  
has settled
down (I think).  And I've been too busy surviving a car crash and  
attendant

medical problems to be exactly on top of the situation.

Now I cannot seem to make a connection at all, and I can't make  
much sense

out of the setup I have.

First, I have both an
/etc/init.d/sshd

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hmmm, i imagine you meant there to be more there.  if you have  
console access to the box, tail -f on the messages log while  
attempting to do an ssh -v -v -v ip_address from another client.   
that might tell you something.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Thomas Kirchner

* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2

This is just a remnant from when you installed Gentoo.  You can delete 
that file.  Portage is already using uncompressed files under 
/usr/portage - that tarball is just a starter tarball that portage 
bootstraps itself with during the initial Gentoo installation.

 I also think that there's another file, /metadata.tar.bz2, which I
 think is portage-related.  If possible I'd like to uncompress that as
 well.

I've never seen a metadata tarball.  metadata.xml is something portage 
keeps uncompressed in /usr/portage for every package.

 It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!

I think so ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think I may have made a break through here!

I've always noticed that everything portage is very slow.  It's like
it's having to un-tar and un-bzip everything all the time...  lo and
behold, it is.


No, it is not.



I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
/portage-20060123.tar.bz2


Simply a portage snapshot, maybe the one you used to install Gentoo in
the first place? Take a look at the date and tell me I'm wrong.



This has - to the best of my knowledge - all the ebuild headers or
whatever for everything.  I know I can un-tar this and all, however, I
want portage to use it in its uncompressed state, just to speed things
up.  I'm not burning for hard drive space, so a little more speed
would be great.


Of course, it is a portage snapshot, it has a whole compressed portage
tree, used to install, or update portage when using alternative
methods for those (like me) that lack the capacity to use remote
RSYNC.



However, I have no idea where to start to try and configure portage to
reflect a change like this.  I've read the man pages for ebuild and
emerge several times over without finding any hints, so I was thinking
someone on this list would know.


There's no change and there's no such feature. If you take a look at
/usr/portage, you'll notice that is has all portage related stuff
there, a snapshot is decompressed there when you install (correct me
if I'm wrong, but you installed using the Gentoo Installer, didn't
you? if you had a complete experience of Gentoo install, you would
know that by now, that's why I strongly advice new users to AVOID THE
INSTALLER). If you sync once in a while, it is updated. Portage is not
kept compressed.



I also think that there's another file, /metadata.tar.bz2, which I
think is portage-related.  If possible I'd like to uncompress that as
well.


Oh, this one was a good choice, metadata is used by portage, but if
you take a look at /usr/portage/metadata, it is uncompressed there
too, and that is what portage uses.



I think this is the cause of a slow portage because everything takes a
long time to start going, then it's just fine.  It takes about as long
to start going as it does to open the archive
/portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!


But it is. That's because of caching, not because it uncompress
everything every time and compress it again later, that would be
stupid (forgive my language).



I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!  Dang...  I got done and said
that was easy.  I think I'm really getting the hang of all this!


You have run an emerge -u world and it got the kernel sources, you
have no special needs and so the default configuration fit your need,
compiling kernels is EASY, making them work, that's a hard one.

You sincerely must be booting from your old kernel and your
/usr/src/linux link must be pointing at your old sources, else you
would have some problems and probably would have to recompile,
reconfigure some stuff, because after make and all, you should copy
the image to /boot and, if necessary, change the grub.conf (menu.lst)
to point at the right file.

See the Kernel upgrade guide at Gentoo.org for more info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH/SSH2 hosed, partially fixed, some rubble remains

2006-05-25 Thread Steven Susbauer



On Thu, 25 May 2006, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 /etc/init.d/sshd
 and /etc/init.d/sshd2

 I can start and stop sshd, but not sshd2, which complains it's not
 configured.  File
 timestamps indicate that sshd2 stuff has not changed since some time in
 2004.
 Moreover, equery belongs cannot locate any package that owns the sshd2
 files.
 The sshd files belong to  net-misc/openssh-4.3_p2-r1.

 STILL TROUBLING:
 why did LDAP get turned on?  Whodunnit?
 why do I have orphaned sshd2 things?


It's odd that you would have anything saying sshd2 anyway, openssh is all
that is needed to use the SSH1/2 protocol, not seperate daemons, though
I'm not sure how it might have been in 2004...
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[gentoo-user] mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 \w xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 problem

recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
visiting
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=36939781
xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal is
impossible. logging in remotley via ssh still works ...

can anyone with the above combination verify this ?

Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Thu, 25 May 2006, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

  I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
  hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
  remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
  old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
  even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!  Dang...  I got done and said
  that was easy.  I think I'm really getting the hang of all this!

 You have run an emerge -u world and it got the kernel sources, you
 have no special needs and so the default configuration fit your need,
 compiling kernels is EASY, making them work, that's a hard one.

 You sincerely must be booting from your old kernel and your
 /usr/src/linux link must be pointing at your old sources, else you
 would have some problems and probably would have to recompile,
 reconfigure some stuff, because after make and all, you should copy
 the image to /boot and, if necessary, change the grub.conf (menu.lst)
 to point at the right file.

 See the Kernel upgrade guide at Gentoo.org for more info.

I don't know what the default grub.conf is for the Gentoo installer, but


It points at a kernel named as Genkernel does.


if it points to /boot/vmlinuz then make install is sufficient to install


That's why I know it isn't pointing at vmlinuz, because the installer
(and thus, the OP) uses genkernel.


the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel. BTW,


Only if you specifically do a USE=symlink emerge gentoo-sources


he copied the config from his old kernel, it
is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.


Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvidia drivers and a lot of
other stuff claim a new compile after a kernel upgrade, I doubt it
would be as clean as the OP stated. But yeah, it may happen.

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[gentoo-user] One building host for other hosts

2006-05-25 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar


Hi List

I am pretending to make a building host for slow host, I got and AMD
64x2 machine that I want to use to build gentoo systems to a i686
desktop machine and a i686 gateway

I was reading today on gentto wiki this article :
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host

is there any other place where I should look for complementary information ?
One thing that is still not cleared is if I should chroot to the
building enviroment to make the packages.

In advance Thank you all, Allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:33:47 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

  the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel.
  BTW,
 
 Only if you specifically do a USE=symlink emerge gentoo-sources

No, that controls the /usr/src/linux symlink to the sources.
The /boot/vmlinuz symlink is created when you make install the kernel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.

2006-05-25 Thread Kenton Groombridge

Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
 Hi,

  I tried to build OpenOffice from source. After hours of copmiling it
  fails with:
  
  What did I so badly wrong here ?

  Kind regards,
  mcc
   
I have the same problem, looks to be same bug posted in:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126777

and

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126587

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:33:47 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

  the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel.
  BTW,

 Only if you specifically do a USE=symlink emerge gentoo-sources

No, that controls the /usr/src/linux symlink to the sources.
The /boot/vmlinuz symlink is created when you make install the kernel.



Hmm, I see. Thanks for the info.
Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...



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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 \w xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 problem

2006-05-25 Thread Alexander Kirillov


recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
visiting
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=36939781
xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal is
impossible. logging in remotley via ssh still works ...

can anyone with the above combination verify this ?


Yep. Killed my X too. I have these same versions of xorg and firefox.
Fortunately I got a kdm login prompt again. The only relevant messages I 
could find in the logs:


# cat /var/log/messages
...
May 26 01:10:39 baikal kdm[11220]: X server for display :0 terminated 
unexpectedly

...

# cat /var/log/kdm.log
...
*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x096128c0 ***
...

You probably should file a bug.
Please post to the list if you have any new info on the subject.
Sasha


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2

This is just a remnant from when you installed Gentoo.  You can delete
that file.  Portage is already using uncompressed files under
/usr/portage - that tarball is just a starter tarball that portage
bootstraps itself with during the initial Gentoo installation.


That's curious.  So I can delete this tarball then?


 I also think that there's another file, /metadata.tar.bz2, which I
 think is portage-related.  If possible I'd like to uncompress that as
 well.

I've never seen a metadata tarball.  metadata.xml is something portage
keeps uncompressed in /usr/portage for every package.


I've got one on my hard drive.  You can have it if you want ; )


 It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!

I think so ;)


If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
time to work with.  I don't think it should be this slow.  I'm not
even talking about compile-times - I know and expect those to be slow,
but just raw package searching and stuff is not that fast.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen

Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
 If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
 long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
 time to work with.  I don't think it should be this slow.  I'm not
 even talking about compile-times - I know and expect those to be slow,
 but just raw package searching and stuff is not that fast.

Do like the rest of us. emerge eix and use that for searching. Make sure to 
run update-eix everytime you have sync'ed portage or better yet, use eix-sync 
to sync portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Teresa and Dale

Lord Sauron wrote:


 I've got one on my hard drive.  You can have it if you want ; )


I have them in /usr/portage/*/*/metadata.xml but none anywhere else
though.  There are none that end in .tar.bz2 though.  Where is yours and
where is mine?  O_O

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:00 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:
 On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
   /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!
 
  I think so ;)
 
 If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
 long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
 time to work with.

In defence of portage, I estimate there are 11229 packages that portage
has to search through descriptions, dependencies, masks, etc:

$ cd /usr/portage; find . -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 1 -type d | wc -l
11229

does apt-get really search this many packages?

   I don't think it should be this slow.

And I don't think I should have this little money :)  But seriously, I
think you trade off speed when searching, vs speed when syncing, vs
keeping a database up to date.  As already mentioned, there are other
tools to help speed it up.

Also,

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 11:45 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:
 
 I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
 hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
 remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
 old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
 even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!

Are you sure you're running it if you didn't have to edit grub?  Does
`uname -r` agree with the new version you just installed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...

This doesn't look like genkernel:

  I loaded the configuration file from my
 old kernel and then just make  make install

to use genkernel, you have to call genkernel.  If he's typing make 
make install, then he's just using the plain old kernel makefile.
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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 \w xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 problem

On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 01:50 +0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
  recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
  mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
  visiting
  http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=36939781
  xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal is
  impossible. logging in remotley via ssh still works ...
  
  can anyone with the above combination verify this ?
 
 Yep. Killed my X too. I have these same versions of xorg and firefox.
 Fortunately I got a kdm login prompt again. The only relevant messages I 
 could find in the logs:
 
 # cat /var/log/messages
 ...
 May 26 01:10:39 baikal kdm[11220]: X server for display :0 terminated 
 unexpectedly
 ...
 
 # cat /var/log/kdm.log
 ...
 *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x096128c0 ***
 ...
 
 You probably should file a bug.
 Please post to the list if you have any new info on the subject.

I've now filed a bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134373

If you are experiencing the same behavour, please post a comment on that
bug including 'emerge --info', use-flag combinations for xorg-x11 and
firefox and relevant log entries.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox hangs frequently...

2006-05-25 Thread Jeremy Olexa

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fei huang wrote:
 well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
 problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
 solution through google.
 
 every time I click on the save link as or save image as, firefox
 immediately stops responding, It is said that the problem might be
 caused by the permissions of my last visited folder, but ALL folders
 and files are accessible. I firstly use a new profile, no luck; safe
 mode, no use of course; re-emerge it seemed to make it working for
 only several minutes.  besides, it hangs while loading some pages.
 
 I'm using fvwm 2.5.16 and mozilla-firefox-bin 1.5.0.3.
 
 any ideas~  thanks in advance..
 
 daniel
 

I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you tried
compiling firefox from source yet?

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox hangs frequently...

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 19:37 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
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 fei huang wrote:
  well, I know the post should not shows up at list of gentoo, but the
  problem is really quite annoying and I could not find any useful
  solution through google.
  
  every time I click on the save link as or save image as, firefox
  immediately stops responding, It is said that the problem might be
  caused by the permissions of my last visited folder, but ALL folders
  and files are accessible. I firstly use a new profile, no luck; safe
  mode, no use of course; re-emerge it seemed to make it working for
  only several minutes.  besides, it hangs while loading some pages.
  
  I'm using fvwm 2.5.16 and mozilla-firefox-bin 1.5.0.3.
  
  any ideas~  thanks in advance..
  
  daniel
  
 
 I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you tried
 compiling firefox from source yet?
 
Maybe you should also
# emerge -av gentoolkit
# revdep-rebuild

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Cluster

2006-05-25 Thread Jeremy Olexa

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Bruno Lustosa wrote:
 Hello, list.
 
 I'm searching for a good cluster solution. What I need:
 
 - Distributed filesystem, so that all machines can share the same
 filesystem. Something like RAID-over-ethernet.
 - Load balancing. Tasks should migrate between nodes.
 - Redundancy, so that the death of a machine doesn't take the cluster
 or any processes down.
 
 I've been looking at some projects, but still didn't find what I need.
 OpenMosix is good, however it still requires a 2.4 kernel, and it will
 not offer redundancy (if a node crashes, the migrated processes are
 lost).
 
 So, anyone doing linux clusters?
 

Sorry but you won't find much help on this list. Maybe this will help:

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.cluster

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash wizardry needed: PATH and MANPATH grow and grow and grow

2006-05-25 Thread znx


This _does_ help.  It's mysterious enough that I tested it, and it seems to
work except that it removes . from any path.  This is not quite what I want.


Glad it was almost a success ;) Interesting, thats not something I
noticed before, I have never wished . in my PATH, I should point out
of course that . in your PATH is a security risk waiting to happen
;)

Nevertheless it should not be removing the entry unless its a dup. I
have quickly confirmed the behaviour it is defn stripping all .
entries.

*sigh* the script needs some work .. I'll play with it again tomorrow

Thanks for the feedback,
Mark

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Re: [SPAM] - [gentoo-user] Getting BC not to truncate at the decimal point? - Bayesian Filter detected spam

2006-05-25 Thread znx


On 24/05/06, Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mike Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
   I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the version
 installed through portage truncates on multiplication/division.  It didn't
 used to do this 2 years ago when I was taking number theory, and there are
 no USE flags available for sys-devel/bc to change this.  From the manpage:

$ bc
bc 1.06
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'.
101/3
33

$ bc -l
bc 1.06
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'.
101/3
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Hi,

I have always understood bc has always truncated (or at least through
my general usage) whenever I have needed it to grow the decimal
precision I use the scale= option:

$ echo 101/3 | bc
33
$ echo scale=10; 101/3 | bc
33.66
$ echo scale=3; 101/3 | bc
33.666
$ echo 101/3 | bc -l
33.

-l auto sets the scale to 20 (as per manpage).  Same version of bc.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox hangs frequently...

2006-05-25 Thread fei huang

I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you triedcompiling firefox from source yet?
- --Jeremy Olexa([EMAIL PROTECTED])yes, It took me more than half an hour to compile it from source last night, um;--( 
Maybe you should also# emerge -av gentoolkit# revdep-rebuildHTH,
Matthiasthank you for your help anyway, I already have gentoolkit installed, I noticed the revdep-rebuild fix a lib file regarding to my nvidia driver, I don't think it has any importance.
still have that problem...well, a lot of wierd problems after I come back to gentoo.. seems much work to do. ;-(PS: for now, I guess the problem is caused by some shared objects or libs with wrong version, 
e.g. gcc. try to change a gcc profilethanks againdaniel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


sorry for my sin.  I didn't know about eix.

On 5/25/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
 If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
 long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
 time to work with. I don't think it should be this slow. I'm not
 even talking about compile-times - I know and expect those to be slow,
 but just raw package searching and stuff is not that fast.

Do like the rest of us. emerge eix and use that for searching. Make sure to
run update-eix everytime you have sync'ed portage or better yet, use eix-sync
to sync portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox hangs frequently...

On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 10:04 +0800, fei huang wrote:
 I have seen wierd problems with binary packages. Have you
 tried
 compiling firefox from source yet? 
 
 - --
 Jeremy Olexa
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 yes, It took me  more than half  an hour  to compile it from source
 last night,  um;--(  
 
 
 Maybe you should also
 # emerge -av gentoolkit
 # revdep-rebuild
 
 HTH, 
 Matthias
 
 
 thank you for your help anyway, I already have gentoolkit installed, I
 noticed the revdep-rebuild fix a lib file regarding to my nvidia
 driver, I don't think it has any importance. 
 still have that problem...
 
 well, a lot of wierd problems after I come back to gentoo.. seems much
 work to do. ;-(
 
 PS: for now, I guess the problem is caused by some shared objects or
 libs with wrong version, e.g. gcc.  try to change a gcc profile
 
Did you recently switched to a different version of gcc ?
Does firefox write anything to the terminal after crashing ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin

On Friday 26 May 2006 04:12, Lord Sauron wrote:
 sorry for my sin.  I didn't know about eix.

 On 5/25/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Friday 26 May 2006 01:00 skrev Lord Sauron:
   If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
   long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
   time to work with. I don't think it should be this slow. I'm not
   even talking about compile-times - I know and expect those to be slow,
   but just raw package searching and stuff is not that fast.
 
  Do like the rest of us. emerge eix and use that for searching. Make sure
  to run update-eix everytime you have sync'ed portage or better yet, use
  eix-sync to sync portage.
 
  --

or better, install esearch. It is as fast as eix, and it comes with esync.

So instead of emerge sync AND update-eix, you just run esync.

Has the additional advantage, that it lists all new and updates packages, when 
the sync is finished.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Steven Susbauer


  he copied the config from his old kernel, it
  is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.

 Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
 new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvidia drivers and a lot of
 other stuff claim a new compile after a kernel upgrade, I doubt it
 would be as clean as the OP stated. But yeah, it may happen.


alsa could easily be built into the kernel, I know when I install a new
kernel it is as easy as running make and make install, and re-emerging the
nvidia-kernel if I'm using it. AFAIK this person didn't say anything about
alsa, nvidia, ndiswrapper, etc. etc. A kernel compile compile and
install is precisely as easy as the OP stated. make  make install 
(make modules_install) is all it takes, if you're pointing at
/boot/vmlinuz.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...

This doesn't look like genkernel:



It doesn't have to look, he used the Gentoo installer, and so, it IS GENKERNEL.


  I loaded the configuration file from my
 old kernel and then just make  make install

to use genkernel, you have to call genkernel.  If he's typing make 
make install, then he's just using the plain old kernel makefile.


That if you do a manual install, the installer use it, or better, if
you choose it will use the same kernel as the livecd, that is, voilá,
genkernel. Try it, its pretty cool.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  he copied the config from his old kernel, it
  is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.

 Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
 new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvidia drivers and a lot of
 other stuff claim a new compile after a kernel upgrade, I doubt it
 would be as clean as the OP stated. But yeah, it may happen.


alsa could easily be built into the kernel, I know when I install a new
kernel it is as easy as running make and make install, and re-emerging the
nvidia-kernel if I'm using it. AFAIK this person didn't say anything about
alsa, nvidia, ndiswrapper, etc. etc. A kernel compile compile and
install is precisely as easy as the OP stated. make  make install 
(make modules_install) is all it takes, if you're pointing at
/boot/vmlinuz.


But he isn't because he used the installer and thus use genkernel,
hmm, its like the third time I'll say that, so, I'll stop and report
you all to read the complete thread.

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[gentoo-user] Ghost of vmware workstation haunts player?

I had a trial license for vmware workstation. I decided to work just with
vmware player, so I did an emerge -C on workstation, and an emerge
of player.

The install was perfectly smooth, but it doesn't work. The symptoms
were pretty bizarre, so I did a careful by-hand deletion of the files that
the unmerge told me would remove all traces, then I rebooted the
system (there was a module that wouldn't unload).

Then I did an umerge and emerge again. I ran the configurations script.
But, it was schizophrenic about it. Below is what it said at the end of
the configure; you'll see it says the module loads perfectly, then it
says it has been installed correctly, but not configured (but this is while
*running* the configure script. Then it says I can go ahead and run
the player.

It cannot make up its mind, but the end result is nothing works any
more.

Help?

++ kevin

= running configure script =
Building for VMware Player 1.0.x or VMware Workstation 5.5.x.
Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only'
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r7-kosmanor/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r7'
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/driver.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/hub.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/userif.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/netif.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/bridge.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/procfs.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/smac_compat.o
 CC [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/smac_linux.x386.o
 LD [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/vmnet.o
 Building modules, stage 2.
 MODPOST
 CC /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/vmnet.mod.o
 LD [M] /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/vmnet.ko
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r7'
cp -f vmnet.ko ./../vmnet.o
make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only'
The module loads perfectly in the running kernel.

* VMware Player is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
* for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
* following command: /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl.
* VMware is not properly configured! See
above.
[ !! ]

The configuration of VMware Player 1.0.1 build-19317 for Linux for this running
kernel completed successfully.

You can now run VMware Player by invoking the following command:
/opt/vmware/player/bin/vmplayer.

Enjoy,

--the VMware team

treat init.d # /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmplayer
vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
/opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Ryan Tandy


Lord Sauron wrote:

On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* On May 25 11:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2

Much exploration?  Forgive my amazement and please don't be *too* 
terribly offended by the rudeness of what I'm about to type, but...


you call `ls /` 'much exploration'??


That's curious.  So I can delete this tarball then?

Yes.  In fact, someone should tell the Installer people that it should 
clean up after itself.



 It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!

I think so ;)


If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
time to work with.  I don't think it should be this slow.  I'm not
even talking about compile-times - I know and expect those to be slow,
but just raw package searching and stuff is not that fast.



The time is how long it takes for python to 'import portage'. 
Unfortunately that's a limitation of the portage code - that even minor 
metadata searches and such can't take place without a full 'import 
portage'.  The import is a cached process, so the metadata only has to 
be loaded from disk once, and is quickly used from RAM each time thereafter.


If speed when searching packages is an issue, try app-portage/eix or 
http://gentoo-portage.com.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Richard Fish


On 5/25/06, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But he isn't because he used the installer and thus use genkernel,
hmm, its like the third time I'll say that, so, I'll stop and report
you all to read the complete thread.


It doesn't really matter how many times you say it, the OP did *not*
use genkernel to install his _new_ kernel.  He quite explicitly said
make  make install.  He *may* have unwittingly used genkernel when
he first installed his system, but he definitely didn't upgrade with
it.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

2006-05-25 Thread Ryan Tandy


Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

So instead of emerge sync AND update-eix, you just run esync.


eix-sync

It's only three more keys... :P
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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 23:50 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:20 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 
   Anyway, the OP is using genkernel (wether it likes/knows it or not)...
 
  This doesn't look like genkernel:
 
 
 It doesn't have to look, he used the Gentoo installer, and so, it IS 
 GENKERNEL.
 
I loaded the configuration file from my
   old kernel and then just make  make install
 
  to use genkernel, you have to call genkernel.  If he's typing make 
  make install, then he's just using the plain old kernel makefile.
 
 That if you do a manual install, the installer use it, or better, if
 you choose it will use the same kernel as the livecd, that is, voilá,
 genkernel. Try it, its pretty cool.

Yes, the initial install seems to be from the installer, which would
have used genkernel to build a kernel. BUT he then typed make  make
install himself, rebooted, and voila, he is not using genkernel any
more.
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Re: [gentoo-user] rc-scripts: status: stopped log message

On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 14:14 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 My /var/log/messages is filling up with the lines like
 
 May 24 12:01:50 orpheus rc-scripts: status:  stopped
 
 They're coming in two's, about every two seconds.  What on earth is
 causing this?
 
 It's only been happening from about yesterday.  Not sure why.  I just
 upgraded to the latest ~x86 everything, but it still happens...
 
 thanks,

I made it a bit further:  something is calling
 /etc/init.d/samba status - I found this out by
editing /etc/init.d/runscript.sh and changing the output to print the
service name, so instead of 

rc-scripts: status:  stopped
I got 
rc-scripts: samba status:  stopped

So what's calling /etc/init.d/samba status all the time??

please, any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [gentoo-user] rc-scripts: status: stopped log message

On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 13:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 I made it a bit further:  something is calling
  /etc/init.d/samba status - I found this out by
 editing /etc/init.d/runscript.sh and changing the output to print the
 service name, so instead of 
 
 rc-scripts: status:  stopped
 I got 
 rc-scripts: samba status:  stopped
 
 So what's calling /etc/init.d/samba status all the time??
 
 please, any suggestions are welcome.

I made it further still, and found out it only happens when I'm logged
in.

WHAT is testing the samba service continuously when I'm logged in?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow


On 5/25/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:00 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:
 On 5/25/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It takes about as long to start going as it does to open the archive
   /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!
 
  I think so ;)

 If it's not, then I really need to ask why on earth portage takes so
 long to just index and search packages that took apt-get much less
 time to work with.

In defence of portage, I estimate there are 11229 packages that portage
has to search through descriptions, dependencies, masks, etc:


apt-get (as of Debian 3.1 Sarge) searches 33,333 seperate packages or so.


$ cd /usr/portage; find . -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 1 -type d | wc -l
11229

does apt-get really search this many packages?


It does more.


   I don't think it should be this slow.

And I don't think I should have this little money :)  But seriously, I
think you trade off speed when searching, vs speed when syncing, vs
keeping a database up to date.  As already mentioned, there are other
tools to help speed it up.


Yeah, well...  apt-get was faster on the sync and on the search.  It's
not fair to compare installation times, but it was also faster on
calculating the dependencies.

If anything, this is a indicator that I need to try and contribute to
the portage project...  at least contribute as much as I'm able.


Also,

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 11:45 -0700, Lord Sauron wrote:

 I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
 hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
 remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
 old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
 even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!

Are you sure you're running it if you didn't have to edit grub?  Does
`uname -r` agree with the new version you just installed?


I went through dmesg and stuff and I'm totally positive.

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On 5/25/06, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/25/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've found (after much exploration) that there is a archive:
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2

Simply a portage snapshot, maybe the one you used to install Gentoo in
the first place? Take a look at the date and tell me I'm wrong.


Okay, the date is when I installed Gentoo.  You're right.


 This has - to the best of my knowledge - all the ebuild headers or
 whatever for everything.  I know I can un-tar this and all, however, I
 want portage to use it in its uncompressed state, just to speed things
 up.  I'm not burning for hard drive space, so a little more speed
 would be great.

Of course, it is a portage snapshot, it has a whole compressed portage
tree, used to install, or update portage when using alternative
methods for those (like me) that lack the capacity to use remote
RSYNC.


Forgive my ignorance, but what is RSYNC?


 However, I have no idea where to start to try and configure portage to
 reflect a change like this.  I've read the man pages for ebuild and
 emerge several times over without finding any hints, so I was thinking
 someone on this list would know.

There's no change and there's no such feature. If you take a look at
/usr/portage, you'll notice that is has all portage related stuff
there, a snapshot is decompressed there when you install (correct me
if I'm wrong, but you installed using the Gentoo Installer, didn't
you? if you had a complete experience of Gentoo install, you would
know that by now, that's why I strongly advice new users to AVOID THE
INSTALLER). If you sync once in a while, it is updated. Portage is not
kept compressed.


Yeah, well this new Gentoo user wouldn't have gotten past partitioning
my hard drive without the installer.  I know it does let less
experience people - like myself - into the community of vastly more
experienced Gentoo users, however, I also think it's been a great tool
for learning more about Linux.


 I also think that there's another file, /metadata.tar.bz2, which I
 think is portage-related.  If possible I'd like to uncompress that as
 well.

Oh, this one was a good choice, metadata is used by portage, but if
you take a look at /usr/portage/metadata, it is uncompressed there
too, and that is what portage uses.


So any portage slowness now is just because...  yeah, I really should
look into this, because I see no reason why portage should be running
as slow as it is.


 I think this is the cause of a slow portage because everything takes a
 long time to start going, then it's just fine.  It takes about as long
 to start going as it does to open the archive
 /portage-20060123.tar.bz2 - conincidence?  I think not!

But it is. That's because of caching, not because it uncompress
everything every time and compress it again later, that would be
stupid (forgive my language).


 I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
 hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
 remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
 old kernel and then just make  make install and it worked!  I didn't
 even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!  Dang...  I got done and said
 that was easy.  I think I'm really getting the hang of all this!

You have run an emerge -u world and it got the kernel sources, you
have no special needs and so the default configuration fit your need,
compiling kernels is EASY, making them work, that's a hard one.


It booted, so I'm perfectly happy.  It's spitting out coldplug errors
right now, so I'm going to be hammering out some more settings, but it
still boots and runs just fine, so I can't complain.


You sincerely must be booting from your old kernel and your
/usr/src/linux link must be pointing at your old sources, else you
would have some problems and probably would have to recompile,
reconfigure some stuff, because after make and all, you should copy
the image to /boot and, if necessary, change the grub.conf (menu.lst)
to point at the right file.


I ran make  make install.  I'm absolutely positive I'm running the
new kernel because I've looked in /boot and it's there, and I've
looked to check which kernel is actually running and it's the new one.
The symlink in /usr/src is still pointing to the old kernel because I
haven't bothered to change that yet, but I'll do it very soon.
Especially since I gave in and unmasked YaKuake.  I love Yakuake!


See the Kernel upgrade guide at Gentoo.org for more info.


I think I got it right the first time, which is ample reason for
celebration as far as I'm concerned.

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