Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 23:19 -0500, Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 09:48:10 am Mick wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: I believe that I have this enabled, however ieee80211 is still barfing out by asking for CONFIG_NET_RADIO. I'll check and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-16 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 15 December 2007 20:00:54 Grant wrote: The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity in the tree but new

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-16 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007 20:00:54 Grant wrote: The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules

2007-12-16 Thread Grant
The real blocker for features that I'd like Gentoo to support is Portage. There is only 1½ people working on it and changing anything in it is hard because Portage is a horrible mess. There's plenty of activity in the tree but new desired features cannot be used in the tree

[gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:20:38 -0600 Dale wrote: ...[snip]... I read a link provided earlier about Plaudis, (sp?). It seems that Portage has a lot of hacks in it, according to what I read anyway. Is that true? Also, is it being wrote with python hurting portage as for as the program itself?

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with emerge gnupg

2007-12-16 Thread Naga Toro
On Sunday 16 December 2007 01.17.42 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:43 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: - why didn't portage replace the old version itself? That's generally part of the update process. GnuPG is slotted, so 1.* and 2.* can be installed simultaneously. No.

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Dale
David Relson wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:20:38 -0600 Dale wrote: ...[snip]... I read a link provided earlier about Plaudis, (sp?). It seems that Portage has a lot of hacks in it, according to what I read anyway. Is that true? Also, is it being wrote with python hurting portage as

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Jeff Cranmer
All I get for iwconfig is lo no wireless extensions eth0no wireless extensions. I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver. The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:05:17 -0600 Dale wrote: David Relson wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:20:38 -0600 Dale wrote: ...[snip]... I read a link provided earlier about Plaudis, (sp?). It seems that Portage has a lot of hacks in it, according to what I read anyway. Is that true?

[gentoo-user] trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread David Relson
I have installed vsftpd but it's not working. When I try to retrieve a file, not much happens. wget -nd ftp://localhost/test.txt; produces: --11:23:39-- ftp://localhost/test.txt = `test.txt' Resolving localhost... 127.0.0.1 Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:21... connected.

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
On 12/16/07, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed vsftpd but it's not working. When I try to retrieve a file, not much happens. wget -nd ftp://localhost/test.txt; produces: --11:23:39-- ftp://localhost/test.txt = `test.txt' Resolving localhost...

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: All I get for iwconfig is lono wireless extensions eth0 no wireless extensions. This means that the driver has not been loaded yet. In generic terms you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device (either the new

[gentoo-user] Re: trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread reader
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Logging in as anonymous ... Login incorrect. Is vsftpd setup for `anonymous' From vsftpd.conf Logging in as anonymous ... # Allow anonymous FTP? (Beware - allowed by default if you # comment this out). anonymous_enable=NO = I don't allow

[gentoo-user] scan for network devices by IP and time?

2007-12-16 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi all, What tools would I want to look into so that I could scan my network to determine all the devices currently on it, either by IP or name? Extra points for a tool that can keep track of what time a device was added to the network. If it matters, my network is a wireless router and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-16 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 December 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean if you connect it to any machine in the diagram or elsewhere wouldn't you be exposing that machine to the unfiltered internet? I think that's the idea here -

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel schedulers

2007-12-16 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 December 2007, forgottenwizard wrote: On 15:27 Thu 13 Dec , Jason Carson wrote: Greetings, Where in the kernel config (make menuconfig) do I find the choice for schedulers. The one I am currently using is Anticipatory. What is the newest and latest scheduler for

Re: [gentoo-user] dd questions

2007-12-16 Thread maxim wexler
This is what happens when you hit TAB twice when running bash. So either you hit TAB or a couple TAB characters \t\t were in the input stream Not TAB, but ESC, which I hit multi times to monitor progress whenever the console went to sleep. Could that have done it? mw

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Randy Barlow
David Relson wrote: IMHO, python is a very nice object oriented language and C++ is no better (unless you need particular features of the language). I suspect C++ runs somewhat faster, but that's not the issue here. As I understand, portage needs to deal with lots of special cases and

[gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup

2007-12-16 Thread felix
I want to set up two portable 1TB drives so users have their own LVM partitions to mount as crypto drives. These partitions would have to be mounted manually with the passpharse supplied by each user (this is a family setup, just a few users). But I want the system to be able to backup one 1TB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:38:44 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Logging in as anonymous ... Login incorrect. Is vsftpd setup for `anonymous' From vsftpd.conf Logging in as anonymous ... # Allow anonymous FTP? (Beware - allowed by default

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: David Relson wrote: IMHO, python is a very nice object oriented language and C++ is no better (unless you need particular features of the language). I suspect C++ runs somewhat faster, but that's not the issue here. As I understand,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup

2007-12-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 11:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to set up two portable 1TB drives so users have their own LVM partitions to mount as crypto drives. These partitions would have to be mounted manually with the passpharse supplied by each user (this is a family setup, just a

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Matan Peled
On 16/12/2007, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Relson wrote: IMHO, python is a very nice object oriented language and C++ is no better (unless you need particular features of the language). I suspect C++ runs somewhat faster, but that's not the issue here. As I understand,

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
[...] Just think about this horror: gcc/libstdc++ update and your package manager stops working Hehehehe. Guess what python is linked against (It doesn't have to be linked against libstdc++, but it usually is)? =P CPython is written in C and has no C++ dependencies: $ ldd `which

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 16 December 2007 20:32:58 Randy Barlow wrote: C++ is most certainly going to yield faster programs since it is a machine compiled language and python is interpreted. In this case it's not really significant. The biggest performance hit for a package manager for Gentoo remains I/O no

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Antonio Quartulli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto: On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: David Relson wrote: IMHO, python is a very nice object oriented language and C++ is no better (unless you need particular features of the language). I suspect

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Matan Peled
On 16/12/2007, Antonio Quartulli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And with c++ comes another one: abi changes. Just think about this horror: gcc/libstdc++ update and your package manager stops working Why don't a python upgrade break your package manager?? Also possible, but less

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Randy Barlow
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: one reason pro phyton and contra c and c++ has always been: segfaults. And with c++ comes another one: abi changes. Just think about this horror: gcc/libstdc++ update and your package manager stops working Well segfaults generally indicate bugs in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Randy Barlow
Matan Peled wrote: I see you haven't read the portage source-code. It isn't so elegant... And I'm saying this as someone who likes python and thinks it is generally a Good Idea. No, I definitely have not, but I have done some Python coding in my days. I was referring to the language, not the

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 16 December 2007 22:04:52 Randy Barlow wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: In this case it's not really significant. The biggest performance hit for a package manager for Gentoo remains I/O no matter which language you use... Yeah, you are right - although there is one step of an

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel schedulers

2007-12-16 Thread forgottenwizard
On 18:36 Sun 16 Dec , Mick wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007, forgottenwizard wrote: On 15:27 Thu 13 Dec , Jason Carson wrote: Greetings, Where in the kernel config (make menuconfig) do I find the choice for schedulers. The one I am currently using is Anticipatory. What is

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup

2007-12-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:15:12 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: I would probably use encfs, forget about the one-lvm-per-user complexity, and just back up the encrypted filesystem just like any other fs. Alternatively, you could do the same with the in-kernel ecryptfs. These two solutions work in

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup

2007-12-16 Thread felix
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:15:12PM -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: I would probably use encfs, forget about the one-lvm-per-user complexity, and just back up the encrypted filesystem just like any other fs. No, I want each user to have their own volume, manually mouinted with a passphrase. For

Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]

2007-12-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: one reason pro phyton and contra c and c++ has always been: segfaults. And with c++ comes another one: abi changes. Just think about this horror: gcc/libstdc++ update and your package manager stops

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Stroller
On 16 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Mick wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: Running the command 'dmesg | grep rtl8187' after reboot returns the message usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 All I get for iwconfig is lo no wireless extensions eth0no

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Stroller wrote: On 16 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Mick wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: Running the command 'dmesg | grep rtl8187' after reboot returns the message usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 All I get for iwconfig is lo

Re: [gentoo-user] hibernate: press SPACE to continue?

2007-12-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:42 +, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 December 2007, Rumen Yotov wrote: On (10/12/07 10:37) Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded from hibernate-script-1.97-r3 to hibernate-script-1.97-r4, and now at every stage of the suspend to disk and resume

[gentoo-user] Re: trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread reader
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anonymous_enable=YES is set. I won't be able to help beyond that, but I'm sure others will. I remember having a hard time with vsftpd and anonymous too. But it suddenly hit me after messing with it for a good while that I had no need of anonymous since

[gentoo-user] Re: DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host

2007-12-16 Thread reader
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just saw the installation of vmware and the generation of a virtual image as more involved than what I suggest above. Using the raw logs from the router and filtering/sorting these through a spreadsheet would probably make them easier to read. Anyway,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup

2007-12-16 Thread felix
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:53:08PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:15:12 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: I would probably use encfs, forget about the one-lvm-per-user complexity, and just back up the encrypted filesystem just like any other fs. Alternatively, you could

[gentoo-user] growisofs: media is not recognized as recordable DVD

2007-12-16 Thread Daniel
I had some .avi's that I wanted to burn, so I went out and bought a 10pack of Fujifilm DVD-R media (4.7GB) and fired up K3b. However, it kept asking me to insert a writable disk even though I put fresh disk after fresh disk in the drive. So I resorted to growisofs. I had an ISO I wanted to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trouble with vsftpd

2007-12-16 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:19:14 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anonymous_enable=YES is set. I won't be able to help beyond that, but I'm sure others will. I remember having a hard time with vsftpd and anonymous too. But it suddenly hit me after

[gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread felix
I bought a NexStar MX dual SATA enclosure and two 1TB drives for it. It has an internal switch to select it appearing as a single 2TB drive or two separate 1TB drives. I eventually want it to be the single drive, but I want it as two separate drives initially. However, it doesn't work that way.

Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-16 Thread Stroller
On 16 Dec 2007, at 22:56, Mick wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007, Stroller wrote: On 16 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Mick wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: Running the command 'dmesg | grep rtl8187' after reboot returns the message usbcore: registered new interface driver

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 17. Dezember 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kernel config does NOT set CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN, if that makes any difference. it should. Please set it. Oh, and don't forget - in 'single disk mode' you might loose everything if one of the two disks dies. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread felix
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:38:40AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Montag, 17. Dezember 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kernel config does NOT set CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN, if that makes any difference. it should. Please set it. Oh, and don't forget - in 'single disk mode' you

[gentoo-user] Got myself in a bind unmerging portage

2007-12-16 Thread reader
It all started like this: Using rsync I was getting an error when ever I used the `--stats' flag. The output said it was an error in the stack ... Rather than mess with it, I thought I might take the opportunity to sync portage and see if a newer rsync was available. Its been a mnth or so since

Re: [gentoo-user] Got myself in a bind unmerging portage

2007-12-16 Thread felix
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 10:23:35PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Anyone else want to chime in I am by no means an expert or even close personal friend of Pythion or gentoo, but that won't stop me. Portage installs pretty quickly; wouldn't it be possible to just do everything manually? It's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Got myself in a bind unmerging portage

2007-12-16 Thread Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 10:23:35PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Anyone else want to chime in I am by no means an expert or even close personal friend of Pythion or gentoo, but that won't stop me. Portage installs pretty quickly; wouldn't it be possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] Got myself in a bind unmerging portage

2007-12-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 22:23 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: It kind of makes me chuckle a bit that emerge -vC portage doesn't at least warn you that this will make a mess of your system (Are you sure?) # emerge -Ca portage These are the packages that would be unmerged:

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 18:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:38:40AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Montag, 17. Dezember 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kernel config does NOT set CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN, if that makes any difference. it should.

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread felix
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:00:32PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: don't ask me, I only work here... but I have a multimedia unit that has 4 card reader slots, a HD, an LCD and USB2. Only /dev/sda shows up if I don't set the multiple luns option, and /dev/sda isn't the HD! It's the (usually

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual USB HDD enclosure shows only a single disk (NexStar MX)

2007-12-16 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 17. Dezember 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:00:32PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: don't ask me, I only work here... but I have a multimedia unit that has 4 card reader slots, a HD, an LCD and USB2. Only /dev/sda shows up if I don't set the multiple luns