Re: [gentoo-user] openexr vs. ilmbase
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Benjamen R. Meyer wrote: I went to update my system (emerge world -vuDNp) and noticed a block by openexr (being updated) on ilmbase (new package). So, I was wondering what they are and which one I should be using. media-libs/openexr-1.6.1 [1.4.0a] Update! media-libs/ilmbase-1.0.1 New! media-libs/openexr-1.5.0 blocking ilmbase-1.0.1 URL: http://www.openexr.com/ I noticed they are both ILM (Industrial Light Magic) file format stuff, and that OpenEXR split back in December 2006 into three packages: ilmbase 0.9, OpenEXR 1.5, OpenEXRViewers 0.9. And then in August everything upgraded to 1.0, 1.6, 1.0 respectively; with a further update in October to 1.0.1, 1.6.1, 1.0.1 respectively. So okay - openexr 1.4.0a needs to be removed and openexr 1.6.1 installed instead with ilmbase 1.0.1 also installed, no? But then why is emerge wanting to install openexr 1.5 too? It's not. Here's the exact line: media-libs/openexr-1.5.0 blocking ilmbase-1.0.1 ^ Note this. It's saying that your existing openexr (which is a version less than 1.5.0) is blocking ilmbase-1.0.1. Simply unmerge openexr and remerge the versions you do want. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: openexr vs. ilmbase
Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to update my system (emerge world -vuDNp) and noticed a block by openexr (being updated) on ilmbase (new package). So, I was wondering what they are and which one I should be using. media-libs/openexr-1.6.1 [1.4.0a] Update! media-libs/ilmbase-1.0.1 New! media-libs/openexr-1.5.0 blocking ilmbase-1.0.1 [...] So okay - openexr 1.4.0a needs to be removed and openexr 1.6.1 installed instead with ilmbase 1.0.1 also installed, no? But then why is emerge wanting to install openexr 1.5 too? It does not. It's telling you, that versions prior to openexr-1.5.0 block the installation of ilmbase-1.0.1. But what's the best way to do the update? I could just unmerge (emerge -C) openexr and then do the update, and remerge openexr afterwards if need be. Or is there a better way? I'd do: emerge -C 'media-libs/openexr-1.5.0' emerge openexr Michael -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue
On Monday 04 February 2008 21:09:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oh wait, what year did you say it was again? MMIIX You bugger you. Now I have to dig back 25 years in memory to high school Latin classes to decode that. You whipper-snapper you. 25 years? 52 in my case. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openexr vs. ilmbase
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:37:23 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: emerge -C 'media-libs/openexr-1.5.0' emerge openexr Which will add openexr to your world file. Something you probably don't want to do. If openexr is being installed as a dependency of something else, then do emerge -C \media-libs/openexr-1.5.0 emerge -uav world which will sort out the correct versions of everything for you. -- Neil Bothwick Illiterate? Write today for free help. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:20:47 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: I was thinking, though; wouldn't it be possible to just switch back and forth each boot? Have grub set windows as the default when it boots linux and linux as the default after booting windows, That would make installing new drivers in Windows even more of a pain, doubling the number of reboots needed :( -- Neil Bothwick Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl mistakes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Neil Bothwick wrote: | That would make installing new drivers in Windows even more of a pain, | doubling the number of reboots needed :( Not really, you can always change the default option by using the cursor keys in the grub boot menu. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman The Charlie Protas Project is on its way Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqGRAAlpOsGhXcE0RCtdvAJ9K/osoUtiY2KsGNLq17YeuC5hN+QCdHSJx 2aF31XZPXpQosACmAjCR4sE= =Bq8P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CHOST question.
Morning... A small question to satisfy my curiosity about the CHOST setting in /etc/make.conf... Currently I have CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu on a computer with a pentium4 processor. Would it make any differences, at all, to change this to CHOST=pentium4-pc-linux-gnu ? Would the compiler then be optimized for the pentium4 and thus run a tad bit faster? Thank you, in advance P.S. Please don't warn me about changing chost, I've been through it before.:') -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:27:28 -0200, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: | That would make installing new drivers in Windows even more of a pain, | doubling the number of reboots needed :( Not really, you can always change the default option by using the cursor keys in the grub boot menu. I thought the point of the question was to avoid waiting for the GRUB menu to appear. -- Neil Bothwick It's the year 2000. Where are all the flying cars? I was promised flying cars! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
Hi, no, it would not. gcc would simply refuse to work, because CHOST=pentium4-pc-linux-gnu is not a valid CHOST. CHOST describes the platform you build on. For optimizations take a look at CFLAGS. And by the way: Changing CHOST is not worth the trouble. Even if it would be possible in your case, it would be better to do a new install. It's faster (because when you change CHOST, you should at least run emerge -e system emerge -e world) and less likely to break. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 09:18:17 am Benedikt Morbach wrote: Hi, no, it would not. gcc would simply refuse to work, because CHOST=pentium4-pc-linux-gnu is not a valid CHOST. CHOST describes the platform you build on. For optimizations take a look at CFLAGS. Where do I find a list of valid chosts? I've been digging since my first post and the Gentoo Handbook on this page says: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/draft/complete/handbook.xml?part=2chap=5 QUOTE # info gcc Select GCC Command Options, Submodel Options, and pick your architecture. UNQUOTE On the submodel page for i386, it clearly lists the pentium4... My question is, what difference in performance would this change make? Thank you, for the post. -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Would the compiler then be optimized for the pentium4 and thus run a tad bit faster? See Benedikt's answer for why you should not go down this road. If you did get it all to work right, and suffered through the emerge -e world required, your computer would in fact run a tiny tad faster, where tad is defined is a teensy weensy little bit, so small you can hardly see it with a magnifying glass Not worth the effort IMHO. Of course, there are ricers out there that will swear by it and declare that their machine runs much faster, but very few if any of them ever produce some actual numbers... -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [query] How to avoid installing a particular package(like gcc) in each update
Hi All, Each time i run emerge -auDNv gnome' some packages got updated each time. I want to avoid continue update of big packages like gcc,glibc, because updating these packages took too much time. Is there any way i can avoid he same ? TIA, flukebox
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 10:35:34 am Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Should be interesting... It'll lay to rest what everyone speculates or postulates. :') No need. Been done. Question answered long ago. You are beating a dead horse. We already know *exactly* what difference it makes - precious little. You want a machine that performs better? Stick in a disk drive with more cache memory. Instant improvement that will dwarf any change you could ever make with the compiler. Ever wondered why Ubuntu distributes 386 generic code? Because it makes no discernible difference whatsoever. But if you wanna go ahead and prove to yourself something that the toolchain world has know for like forever, then go ahead, don't let me stop you shrug -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Are the numbers posted somewhere I can get to? It'd be good reading. -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Should be interesting... It'll lay to rest what everyone speculates or postulates. :') No need. Been done. Question answered long ago. You are beating a dead horse. We already know *exactly* what difference it makes - precious little. You want a machine that performs better? Stick in a disk drive with more cache memory. Instant improvement that will dwarf any change you could ever make with the compiler. Ever wondered why Ubuntu distributes 386 generic code? Because it makes no discernible difference whatsoever. But if you wanna go ahead and prove to yourself something that the toolchain world has know for like forever, then go ahead, don't let me stop you shrug -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
Jerry McBride wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008 09:40:30 am Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Would the compiler then be optimized for the pentium4 and thus run a tad bit faster? See Benedikt's answer for why you should not go down this road. If you did get it all to work right, and suffered through the emerge -e world required, your computer would in fact run a tiny tad faster, where tad is defined is a teensy weensy little bit, so small you can hardly see it with a magnifying glass Not worth the effort IMHO. Of course, there are ricers out there that will swear by it and declare that their machine runs much faster, but very few if any of them ever produce some actual numbers... Thanks for the post. I actually started working on this project late last night... My target test machine is an getting old Compaq R3000 with a 3ghz P4. What I'm going to do is just what you suggested. First I'm going to finish freshening the laptop. This is my daily hack-n-slash computer, so no worries clobbering it. I'm near the end of finishing an emerge -e world that was preceded with two rounds of emerge -e system Next step is some exhaustive bench marking. All suggestions welcomed. Then once completed, I'' make the change to chost from i686 to pentium4, following the docs on the net. Once done and smoothed out... another freshening as mentioned above, followed up with identical runs of what ever benchmarks I ran before... Should be interesting... It'll lay to rest what everyone speculates or postulates. :') Cheers. There is a script that will take care of the emerge and you only have to do it once. It's on the forums but I still have a copy if you want me to email it to you. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 09:40:30 am Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Would the compiler then be optimized for the pentium4 and thus run a tad bit faster? See Benedikt's answer for why you should not go down this road. If you did get it all to work right, and suffered through the emerge -e world required, your computer would in fact run a tiny tad faster, where tad is defined is a teensy weensy little bit, so small you can hardly see it with a magnifying glass Not worth the effort IMHO. Of course, there are ricers out there that will swear by it and declare that their machine runs much faster, but very few if any of them ever produce some actual numbers... Thanks for the post. I actually started working on this project late last night... My target test machine is an getting old Compaq R3000 with a 3ghz P4. What I'm going to do is just what you suggested. First I'm going to finish freshening the laptop. This is my daily hack-n-slash computer, so no worries clobbering it. I'm near the end of finishing an emerge -e world that was preceded with two rounds of emerge -e system Next step is some exhaustive bench marking. All suggestions welcomed. Then once completed, I'' make the change to chost from i686 to pentium4, following the docs on the net. Once done and smoothed out... another freshening as mentioned above, followed up with identical runs of what ever benchmarks I ran before... Should be interesting... It'll lay to rest what everyone speculates or postulates. :') Cheers. -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
Benedikt Morbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, no, it would not. gcc would simply refuse to work, because CHOST=pentium4-pc-linux-gnu is not a valid CHOST. CHOST describes the platform you build on. For optimizations take a look at CFLAGS. Though looking at /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub it looks as though it might be valid, and be canonicalized to 'i786-pc-linux-gnu' (rather than the more common i686-pc-linux-gnu) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 10:28:01 am Dale wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008 09:40:30 am Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Would the compiler then be optimized for the pentium4 and thus run a tad bit faster? See Benedikt's answer for why you should not go down this road. If you did get it all to work right, and suffered through the emerge -e world required, your computer would in fact run a tiny tad faster, where tad is defined is a teensy weensy little bit, so small you can hardly see it with a magnifying glass Not worth the effort IMHO. Of course, there are ricers out there that will swear by it and declare that their machine runs much faster, but very few if any of them ever produce some actual numbers... Thanks for the post. I actually started working on this project late last night... My target test machine is an getting old Compaq R3000 with a 3ghz P4. What I'm going to do is just what you suggested. First I'm going to finish freshening the laptop. This is my daily hack-n-slash computer, so no worries clobbering it. I'm near the end of finishing an emerge -e world that was preceded with two rounds of emerge -e system Next step is some exhaustive bench marking. All suggestions welcomed. Then once completed, I'' make the change to chost from i686 to pentium4, following the docs on the net. Once done and smoothed out... another freshening as mentioned above, followed up with identical runs of what ever benchmarks I ran before... Should be interesting... It'll lay to rest what everyone speculates or postulates. :') Cheers. There is a script that will take care of the emerge and you only have to do it once. It's on the forums but I still have a copy if you want me to email it to you. Dale :-) :-) Thanks for the offer. I'm almost finished the re-compiling stuff however. Why not post the script anyways? Someone else may be doing the same thing. Cheers. -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
Jerry McBride wrote: Thanks for the offer. I'm almost finished the re-compiling stuff however. Why not post the script anyways? Someone else may be doing the same thing. Cheers. It is attached. It's been around a while so I assume it still works. I put mine in the /root directory and you also need to be in the directory when you run it. It does some sort of extraction thing. It puts it where ever you are when you run it. Dale :-) :-) genscript.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST question.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Jerry McBride wrote: Are the numbers posted somewhere I can get to? It'd be good reading. Google knows where they are. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [query] How to avoid installing a particular package(like gcc) in each update
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, dell core2duo wrote: Hi All, Each time i run emerge -auDNv gnome' some packages got updated each time. I want to avoid continue update of big packages like gcc,glibc, because updating these packages took too much time. Is there any way i can avoid he same ? Perhaps you mean 'emerge -avuND world' instead of gnome ? :-) You can temporarily create a file in /etc/portage/package.mask/ to block out some big ebuilds. Say you want to leave the latest gcc and glibc for later, then put this in it: =sys-devel/gcc-4.2.2 =sys-libs/glibc-2.5.1 Do your emerge world, those versions will be ignored. Later on you when you have time can delete this temp file and rerun emerge world. There are several ways you could accomplish this result, the above is what I tend to do -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OO and slot 5500
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I use openoffice on two systems and one has developed a dialog box that says /home/$[user]/slot:5500 is unavailable. Cancelling causes the requested document to open normally. This happened back a few weeks ago after some updates (but by the time I noticed it, it was too late tell which ones). OO wasnt one of the updates and its otherwise fine. I just upgraded to 2.3.1.2 and its still there. anyone have any clues where to look? Not sure if relevant, but slot:5500 defines a parameter of the OOo toolbar, probably something to do with an image on the toolbar? Have you perhaps customised your OOo toolbar, then done away with the ~/.ooo-2.0 directory or files therein and it now complains about it? HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Display card advice needed
On February 4, 2008 10:40:47 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been given a superb Iiyama 24' Vision Master Pro display (considered too bulky for the office it was in). I have to buy a new graphics card able to plug it in. It must: - be able to display 2048x1536 at 87Hz - be able of 3d acceleration - use, as much as possible, an Open Source driver - not be too expensive ($120) Advices experiences welcome. If you want GL support with Free (as in Freedom) drivers, I've found that you can't beat the ease of Intel chips. Granted, they're not as impressive as an Nvidia card, but unlike the other big graphics card companies, Intel's been very good to the Freedesktop developers wrt getting the drivers together. As I understand it, X's nv driver (regardless of the age of the card) doesn't support 3d hardware acceleration due to Nvidia's refusal to share information with the community, and only some of the older (1.5years) ATI cards are fully supported with the Free drivers. My laptop has an intel graphics chip (on board) and it does GL stuff great. My desktop has an ATI Radeon X800 XL and while it took a while to get things working, it does 3d stuff very well now. -- Nature is not a green museum. It's not stagnant. It evolves. Every time we manage, we lose knowledge. - Anna Maria Valastro, Peaceful Parks -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:58:26 -0800, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: I cannot get bridged netwokring to work, no matter what I try. I have searched high and low for an answer, and I have spend hours experimenting. Bridged networking broke for me when 2.6.21 came out and has never worked since. Is the host on a wired or wireless network? I found bridged wouldn't work over wireless, so I use NAT on my laptop. -- Neil Bothwick I am McCoy of Bo...Damnit! I'm a doctor, not a collective! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)
Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 05/02/08 04:13: hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0 I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong. The drive that held my root directory and all configs had failed. Friday, i got it back from the DiskSavers, along with the data on a new USB external drive. Copying over the cups config files just magically made the printer work locally. I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore the fact that I have no idea what keeps my CUPS working. Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip Thanks for the help. I did find that hplip was compiled without the parport flag. Since local printing on the parallel port is now working without it, I wonder what it does? Dale beat me to pointing out that you may have missed the parport USE flag, most likely the cause of the problem. I guess that you've restored your old /etc/hp/hplip.conf, which was probably enough to enable the cups print queue once you restored your /etc/cups directory. The hp-setup in the new hplip probably needs the parport USE flag to determine whether to support parallel port probes. Without the parport USE flag, I guess that it assumes that you're not interested in them. Thanks, and I'll get that info when I have things a bit more stable. Good luck, hope you get your system stabilised soon. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
I decided to move on from Gaim, since it is now masked. So I emerged pidgin, backed up ~/.gaim, unmerged gaim and tried to launch pidgin . . . Hmm, it seems that I can launch /usr/bin/finch, that brings up an ncurses interface, but not pidgin. There is no pidgin binary! Have I missed out some necessary USE flag perhaps? $ pidgin -bash: pidgin: command not found # ls -la /usr/bin/pidgin ls: cannot access /usr/bin/pidgin: No such file or director # emerge -pDv pidgin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1 USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile -networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
You need to get the gtk use flag to get the gtk GUI ;) --Greg On Feb 5, 2008 2:54 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to move on from Gaim, since it is now masked. So I emerged pidgin, backed up ~/.gaim, unmerged gaim and tried to launch pidgin . . . Hmm, it seems that I can launch /usr/bin/finch, that brings up an ncurses interface, but not pidgin. There is no pidgin binary! Have I missed out some necessary USE flag perhaps? $ pidgin -bash: pidgin: command not found # ls -la /usr/bin/pidgin ls: cannot access /usr/bin/pidgin: No such file or director # emerge -pDv pidgin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1 USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile -networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:54:07 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to move on from Gaim, since it is now masked. So I emerged pidgin, backed up ~/.gaim, unmerged gaim and tried to launch pidgin . . . Hmm, it seems that I can launch /usr/bin/finch, that brings up an ncurses interface, but not pidgin. There is no pidgin binary! Have I missed out some necessary USE flag perhaps? $ pidgin -bash: pidgin: command not found # ls -la /usr/bin/pidgin ls: cannot access /usr/bin/pidgin: No such file or director # emerge -pDv pidgin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1 USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile -networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB USE=gtk for pidgin. Right you now just have finch (ncurses) -- Ken69267 Gentoo AMD64 AT signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
Hi,
here's a terminal output :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ which pidgin
/usr/bin/pidgin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix -I pidgin
[I] net-im/pidgin
Available versions: 2.2.1 (~)2.2.2 (~)2.3.1 {bonjour dbus debug
doc eds gadu gnutls groupwise gstreamer gtk meanwhile ncurses
networkmanager nls perl prediction qq sasl silc spell tcl tk zephyr}
Installed versions: 2.3.1(20:01:24 15.12.2007)(dbus gtk ncurses
nls perl silc -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise
-gstreamer -meanwhile -networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -spell -tcl
-tk -zephyr)
Homepage:http://pidgin.im/
Description: GTK Instant Messenger client
Note gtk use flag ;)
Build again ;)
Jil.
Mick a écrit :
I decided to move on from Gaim, since it is now masked. So I emerged pidgin,
backed up ~/.gaim, unmerged gaim and tried to launch pidgin . . .
Hmm, it seems that I can launch /usr/bin/finch, that brings up an ncurses
interface, but not pidgin. There is no pidgin binary! Have I missed out
some necessary USE flag perhaps?
$ pidgin
-bash: pidgin: command not found
# ls -la /usr/bin/pidgin
ls: cannot access /usr/bin/pidgin: No such file or director
# emerge -pDv pidgin
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1 USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl
spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile
-networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr
0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
On Feb 5, 2008 2:54 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to move on from Gaim, since it is now masked. So I emerged pidgin, backed up ~/.gaim, unmerged gaim and tried to launch pidgin . . . Hmm, it seems that I can launch /usr/bin/finch, that brings up an ncurses interface, but not pidgin. There is no pidgin binary! Have I missed out some necessary USE flag perhaps? $ pidgin -bash: pidgin: command not found # ls -la /usr/bin/pidgin ls: cannot access /usr/bin/pidgin: No such file or director # emerge -pDv pidgin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1 USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile -networkmanager -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 0 kB Maybe +gtk ? What does equery f pidgin say? (If you don't have equery, emerge gentoolkit). Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More problems with Pidgin
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Greg Bowser wrote: You need to get the gtk use flag to get the gtk GUI ;) Thanks Greg, I thought that it should be clever enough to enable gtk by default, just like gaim used to (I think). Remerging now . . . -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)
Dave Jones wrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 05/02/08 04:13: hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0 I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong. The drive that held my root directory and all configs had failed. Friday, i got it back from the DiskSavers, along with the data on a new USB external drive. Copying over the cups config files just magically made the printer work locally. I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore the fact that I have no idea what keeps my CUPS working. Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip Thanks for the help. I did find that hplip was compiled without the parport flag. Since local printing on the parallel port is now working without it, I wonder what it does? Dale beat me to pointing out that you may have missed the parport USE flag, most likely the cause of the problem. I guess that you've restored your old /etc/hp/hplip.conf, which was probably enough to enable the cups print queue once you restored your /etc/cups directory. The hp-setup in the new hplip probably needs the parport USE flag to determine whether to support parallel port probes. Without the parport USE flag, I guess that it assumes that you're not interested in them. Thanks, and I'll get that info when I have things a bit more stable. Good luck, hope you get your system stabilised soon. Cheers, Dave Dale has added the USE flag parport to his too. Just in case I ever need it. Mine is not grayed out now either. That should work. Ain't having all the options neat? Even if you have to recompile things a lot. ;-) Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)
Dale wrote on 05/02/08 22:44: hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0 Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip Thanks for the help. I did find that hplip was compiled without the parport flag. Dale beat me to pointing out that you may have missed the parport USE flag, most likely the cause of the problem. Dale has added the USE flag parport to his too. Just in case I ever need it. Mine is not grayed out now either. That should work. Dale, thanks for the pointer, and also for proving that enabling the parport USE flag should cure the problem Kevin experienced. Ain't having all the options neat? Even if you have to recompile things a lot. ;-) It's one of Gentoos' many strong points - *you* choose what *you* want. I enjoy keeping my systems lean and mean, so I turn off options I don't require, rather than including them 'just in case.' That's the beauty of Gentoo: we have choice. To each their own. It's called freedom. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [query] How to avoid installing a particular package(like gcc) in each update
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 18:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, dell core2duo wrote: Hi All, Each time i run emerge -auDNv gnome' some packages got updated each time. I want to avoid continue update of big packages like gcc,glibc, because updating these packages took too much time. Is there any way i can avoid he same ? Perhaps you mean 'emerge -avuND world' instead of gnome ? :-) well, this is exactly what emerge -u world is supposed to do... If you don't want to upgrade then don't upgrade! Alternatively you could specify the packages you want to upgrade, instead of world. You can temporarily create a file in /etc/portage/package.mask/ to block out some big ebuilds. Say you want to leave the latest gcc and glibc for later, then put this in it: =sys-devel/gcc-4.2.2 =sys-libs/glibc-2.5.1 Do your emerge world, those versions will be ignored. Later on you when you have time can delete this temp file and rerun emerge world. There are several ways you could accomplish this result, the above is what I tend to do another few things I'd add: You probably want to use the stable keyword (eg ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 not ~x86 in /etc/make.conf) - that way you'll get a few less upgrades (and downgrades). Also, perhaps you only want to upgrade in case of security releases - `emerge gentoolkit` and then try `glsa-check -v -t all` to see what applies. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au QOTD: Wouldn't it be wonderful if real life supported control-Z? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OO and slot 5500
Thanks for the hint. I had deleted my user gnome directories but not the oo ones so I did not consider that to be the problem. Clicking on the custom icons (i.e., using them) was enough to fix the it. Thanks, BillK On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 17:32 +, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I use openoffice on two systems and one has developed a dialog box that says /home/$[user]/slot:5500 is unavailable. Cancelling causes the requested document to open normally. This happened back a few weeks ago after some updates (but by the time I noticed it, it was too late tell which ones). OO wasnt one of the updates and its otherwise fine. I just upgraded to 2.3.1.2 and its still there. anyone have any clues where to look? Not sure if relevant, but slot:5500 defines a parameter of the OOo toolbar, probably something to do with an image on the toolbar? Have you perhaps customised your OOo toolbar, then done away with the ~/.ooo-2.0 directory or files therein and it now complains about it? HTH. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to don't autoload a module
What i can do so that the kernel module iwl3945 don't be autoload at the boot ? He is not on module.autoload.d/kernel ... I have many modules (Alsa,nvidia,uvcvideo) which are loaded automaticaly but i don't know why... I am interested to remove this autoload only for iwl3945 thx
Re: [gentoo-user] How to don't autoload a module
Elyahou ITTAH wrote: What i can do so that the kernel module iwl3945 don't be autoload at the boot ? He is not on module.autoload.d/kernel ... I have many modules (Alsa,nvidia,uvcvideo) which are loaded automaticaly but i don't know why... I am interested to remove this autoload only for iwl3945 thx I don't use many modules myself but I have read that udev can autoload modules. May want to check that while waiting on a guru to come along. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Freenet overlay
* Marc Redmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've collected a few ebuilds for freenet (encrypted p2p web) and now creating an own overlay for this. I don't know if it is the most recent version of freenet but you can find freenet-0.7_alpha_pre1104 in the sunrise overlay. Meanwhile I'm working on my own overlay, including also Frost. I's almost finished. But one problem I still have: java -jar seems to ignore the classpath, so I have to hardcode the imported jars into the manifest. That's really mad. Maybe someone's got an better solution ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Looking for Gnome-Panel mixer applet
Hi folks, I'm looking for an small gnome-panel mixer applet (alsamixergui is IMHO too inconvenient for just quick volume chaning ;-o) Maybe somebody has an suggestion ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:58:26 -0800, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: I cannot get bridged netwokring to work, no matter what I try. I have searched high and low for an answer, and I have spend hours experimenting. Bridged networking broke for me when 2.6.21 came out and has never worked since. Is the host on a wired or wireless network? I found bridged wouldn't work over wireless, so I use NAT on my laptop. There is a unofficial hack discussed at http://communities.vmware.com/thread/95630?tstart=0start=0. It has worked for many but not for me. If anyone knows any other tricks, I'd be happy to hear about them. I'm using a gentoo 2.6.23-r5 kernel with the Broadcom 4311 driver. Cheers, Drew -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Mixer filesystem
Hi folks, I'm currently developing an synthetic filesystem for audio mixer control. It does all the OS/driver specific stuff within the fileserver, so applications can acces the mixer settings in an completely platform agnostic and network transparent way: http://j.metux.de/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=50 Maybe some of you's interested in it ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for Gnome-Panel mixer applet
On Feb 5, 2008 11:40 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking for an small gnome-panel mixer applet (alsamixergui is IMHO too inconvenient for just quick volume chaning ;-o) Maybe somebody has an suggestion ? thx Have you tried using the mixer provided by the gnome-applets package. It is a simple speaker that you can click that allows you to adjust the master volume with a simple slider. AJ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for Gnome-Panel mixer applet
* AJ Spagnoletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using the mixer provided by the gnome-applets package. It is a simple speaker that you can click that allows you to adjust the master volume with a simple slider. Took a hell long time for building ... the dependencies are insane ;-o When I tried to start it, terminated immediately, nothing more happened. Ergo: unusable :( cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for Gnome-Panel mixer applet
Then find out why its not working - works perfectly on all the desktop systems I have. This is probably a sign that you have some deeper problems - tried revdep-rebuild recently? Its also sometimes necessary to rebuild gnome-panel at the same time as gnome-applets - its usually the batter-stat applet segfaulting that this fixes for me. BillK On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 08:23 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * AJ Spagnoletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using the mixer provided by the gnome-applets package. It is a simple speaker that you can click that allows you to adjust the master volume with a simple slider. Took a hell long time for building ... the dependencies are insane ;-o When I tried to start it, terminated immediately, nothing more happened. Ergo: unusable :( cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64
I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got it. I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other compromises (admittedly some minor). I realize I should see some speed increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling. So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
