Re: [gentoo-user] pear hangs no FUTEX_WAIT

2008-05-21 Thread Frank Gruellich
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20. May 08:
 Even the simple pear command from the command line hangs, strace show that
 it hangs at 
 
 futex(0x2ac88d5093a0, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL   

I had this problem with rpm waiting for a lock in its DB.  This futex()
call waits forever, that at memory address 0x2ac88d5093a0 appears a 2.
Try to figure out what's mapped on 0x2ac88d5093a0 and what could write a
2 to it but doesn't.  It should also appear somewhere in the strace.
Maybe this gives a clue what it is waiting for.

HTH.  Kind regards,
 Frank.
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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 May 2008 07:53:52 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

  I believe that when I upgrade grub I am supposed to re-run it.  
 
 Only if you want to upgrade your MBR too.

If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the stage1.5 and
stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB update.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linux/Standards-friendly mobile phone

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 May 2008 20:51:47 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

 If you mean the former, then anything that's supported by
 BitPIM or gnokii is Linux/OSS friendly: 

As is any phone running PalmOS.


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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick:
 On Wed, 21 May 2008 07:53:52 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   I believe that when I upgrade grub I am supposed to re-run it.
 
  Only if you want to upgrade your MBR too.

 If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the stage1.5 and
 stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB update.

Not to me.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:53:28 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

  If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the stage1.5
  and stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB update.  
 
 Not to me.

Aha, the old works for me defence :)

It came up on this list very recently, where someone had to use a live CD
to fix GRUB after ignoring/missing the elog warnings.

WARN: postinst
*** IMPORTANT NOTE: you must run grub and install
the new version's stage1 to your MBR.  Until you do,
stage1 and stage2 will still be the old version, but
later stages will be the new version, which could
cause problems such as an unbootable system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] $LINGUAS question

2008-05-21 Thread Mick
On Monday 19 May 2008, Michał 'shpaq' Laszuk wrote:
 Dnia 2008-05-18, nie o godzinie 23:02 +0100, Graham Murray pisze:
  Michał 'shpaq' Laszuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   The LINGUAS variable should be only en. en_US is a localization.
 
  In that case why do packages such as mozilla-firefox support (amongst
  others) linguas_en, linguas_en_GB and linguas_en_US? They use the
  LINGUAS variable to select which localised language packs to install. So
  'LINGUAS=en_US en' is perfectly valid.

 You're right. My fault.

Mine has been set to LINGUAS=en_GB el for many years now, but mplayer still 
shows up with scrambled characters on the terminal (aterm/rxvt).  However, 
when rebuilt like:

LINGUAS=en_US emerge -DV mplayer

no more scrambled messages!  This tells me that mplayer's translations are 
partial to the particular LINGUAS flags and probably affected by what 
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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick:
 On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:53:28 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the stage1.5
   and stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB update.
 
  Not to me.

 Aha, the old works for me defence :)

No, it's the couldn't happen to me because my /boot is mounted ro defense.

BTW: One doesn't really need to keep grub installed after writing the MBR. 
Just unmerge it and your /boot and/or MBR are save.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Limiting portage sync

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 May 2008 02:09:26 +0100, Matt Harrison wrote:

 I was just wondering, while watching an emerge --sync, is it possible 
 (or advisable) to limit what portage syncs? For example, I have a
 server here that doesn't use X, kde, gnome, java, and a number of other
 fairly large areas of portage. It would be nice if I could speed up
 syncing by excluding these categories from the process.

It is possible, by setting PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS in make.conf to add
--exclude options to mask out the directories you don't want. As for
being advisable, it depends on whether you are prepared to risk and
breakage this may incur, but unless you do anything silly, you should be
able to fix any damage by undoing the change and syncing again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Are some-cvs items synced with actual cvs often?

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:37:47 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AFter running  `emerge --sync' I see that emacs-cvs still shows
 emacs-23.0..  And no update needed
 
 When I run emacs command M-x version it shows emacs-23.0.60
 
 I think there have been changes in the head of emacs-23 cvs.  So how
 do I determine if I'm running the latest cvs? 

Check the version of the running Emacs against the latest on the CVS
server. If it differs, emerge it again. CVS ebuilds don't have a specific
version, that would mean creating a new ebuild each time the CVS was
updated, instead they use the latest available from CVS at the time you
run it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 21 May 2008 11:42:37 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick:
 On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:53:28 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the stage1.5
   and stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB update.
 
  Not to me.

 Aha, the old works for me defence :)

 No, it's the couldn't happen to me because my /boot is mounted ro defense.

 BTW: One doesn't really need to keep grub installed after writing the MBR. 
 Just unmerge it and your /boot and/or MBR are save.

This discussion is interesting and may well prove helpful.  But,
unless I missed it, I didn't see an answer to my question, namely

Am I correct in believing that seeing `GRUB' within the first 512
bytes of /dev/sda (I have a one-hard-disk laptop) confirms my memory
that I did install grub in the mbr (as opposed to the boot block of
the active partition).

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] $LINGUAS question

2008-05-21 Thread felix
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:26:58AM +0100, Mick wrote:
 Mine has been set to LINGUAS=en_GB el for many years now, but mplayer still 
 shows up with scrambled characters on the terminal (aterm/rxvt).  However, 
 when rebuilt like:
 
 LINGUAS=en_US emerge -DV mplayer
 
 no more scrambled messages!  This tells me that mplayer's translations are 
 partial to the particular LINGUAS flags and probably affected by what 
 character sets your terminal can show. 

I have also found that when LINGUAS is set to multiple values, emerge
-pv sorts them when it shwos what it would do:

# LINGUAS=en_US en_GB en emerge -pv --nospinner mozilla-firefox-bin

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies ... done!
[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-3.0_rc1 [3.0_beta5-r1] 
USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US 0 kB 

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Whether or not this reported order is what it actually uses, I don't
know and don't know how to find out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Allan Gottlieb:

 This discussion is interesting and may well prove helpful.  But,
 unless I missed it, I didn't see an answer to my question, namely

Although it was a little bit ironic, I gave it in my first reply.

 Am I correct in believing that seeing `GRUB' within the first 512
 bytes of /dev/sda (I have a one-hard-disk laptop) confirms my memory
 that I did install grub in the mbr (as opposed to the boot block of
 the active partition).

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 21 May 2008 15:31:23 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Allan Gottlieb:

 This discussion is interesting and may well prove helpful.  But,
 unless I missed it, I didn't see an answer to my question, namely

 Although it was a little bit ironic, I gave it in my first reply.

Thanks.  I thought so, but feared that my question might have been
poorly written and suggested that I wanted to know which loader I had
rather that where it was installed.

Thanks again.
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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At Wed, 21 May 2008 15:31:23 +0200 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Allan Gottlieb:

 This discussion is interesting and may well prove helpful.  But,
 unless I missed it, I didn't see an answer to my question, namely

 Although it was a little bit ironic, I gave it in my first reply.

 Thanks.  I thought so, but feared that my question might have been
 poorly written and suggested that I wanted to know which loader I had
 rather that where it was installed.

 Thanks again.
 allan

I think this answer would be good to have on a Gentoo grub Wiki
somewhere. (If it isn't already.) There have been times I've wondered
the same thing and didn't know how to extract the data out fo the MBR
the way you did. It would also be good to add a second example of how
to get it out of a partition instead of the MBR in case grub is
installed there.

Anyway, great info. Thanks!

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] $LINGUAS question

2008-05-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:26:58AM +0100, Mick wrote:
  Mine has been set to LINGUAS=en_GB el for many years now, but
  mplayer still shows up with scrambled characters on the terminal
  (aterm/rxvt).  However, when rebuilt like:
 
  LINGUAS=en_US emerge -DV mplayer
 
  no more scrambled messages!  This tells me that mplayer's
  translations are partial to the particular LINGUAS flags and
  probably affected by what character sets your terminal can show.

 I have also found that when LINGUAS is set to multiple values,
 emerge -pv sorts them when it shwos what it would do:

 # LINGUAS=en_US en_GB en emerge -pv --nospinner
 mozilla-firefox-bin

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ... done!
 [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-3.0_rc1
 [3.0_beta5-r1] USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US
 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB

 Whether or not this reported order is what it actually uses, I
 don't know and don't know how to find out.

Does it matter in which order languages are emerged?

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 21 May 2008 07:12:32 -0700 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this answer would be good to have on a Gentoo grub Wiki
 somewhere. (If it isn't already.) There have been times I've wondered
 the same thing and didn't know how to extract the data out fo the MBR
 the way you did. It would also be good to add a second example of how
 to get it out of a partition instead of the MBR in case grub is
 installed there.

Here is how to do it for a partition, in my case /dev/sda2 is the
active partition and it is a windows partition (remember that in grub
this would be (hd0,1), not sd and not 2).  Note that if `GRUB' is in
the boot block of a partition it does not mean it is not in the mbr.
However, there is no ambiguity when you check the mbr itself since
whatever is there counts.

ajglap ~ # dd if=/dev/sda2 ibs=512 count=1 | od -c --address-radix=d
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied000 353   R 220   N   T   F   S  \0 
002  \b  \0  \0
, 0.0234332 s, 21.8 kB/s
016  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0 370  \0  \0   ?  \0 377  \0  \0 200 001  \0
032  \0  \0  \0  \0 200  \0 200  \0 377 237 337 001  \0  \0  \0  \0
048  \0  \0  \f  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0 377 371 035  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0
064 366  \0  \0  \0 001  \0  \0  \0  \a   C 326 216   r 326 216 236
080  \0  \0  \0  \0 372   3 300 216 320 274  \0   | 373   h 300  \a
096 037 036   h   f  \0 313 210 026 016  \0   f 201003  \0   N
112   T   F   S   u 025 264   A 273 252   U 315 023   r  \f 201 373
128   U 252   u 006 367 301 001  \0   u 003 351 322  \0 036 203 354
144 030   h 032  \0 264   H 212 026 016  \0 213 364 026 037 315 023
160 237 203 304 030 236   X 037   r 341   ; 006  \v  \0   u 333 243
176 017  \0 301   . 017  \0 004 036   Z   3 333 271  \0   + 310
192   f 377 006 021  \0 003 026 017  \0 216 302 377 006 026  \0 350
208   @  \0   + 310   w 357 270  \0 273 315 032   f   # 300   u   -
224   f 201 373   T   C   P   A   u   $ 201 371 002 001   r 036 026
240   h  \a 273 026   h   p 016 026   h  \t  \0   f   S   f   S   f
256   U 026 026 026   h 270 001   f   a 016  \a 315 032 351   j 001
272 220 220   f   ` 036 006   f 241 021  \0   f 003 006 034  \0 036
288   f   h  \0  \0  \0  \0   f   P 006   S   h 001  \0   h 020  \0
304 264   B 212 026 016  \0 026 037 213 364 315 023   f   Y   [   Z
320   f   Y   f   Y 037 017 202 026  \0   f 377 006 021  \0 003 026
336 017  \0 216 302 377 016 026  \0   u 274  \a 037   f   a 303 240
352 370 001 350  \b  \0 240 373 001 350 002  \0 353 376 264 001 213
368 360 254 \0   t  \t 264 016 273  \a  \0 315 020 353 362 303
384  \r  \n   A   d   i   s   k   r   e   a   d   e   r
400   r   o   r   o   c   c   u   r   r   e   d  \0  \r  \n   B
416   O   O   T   M   G   R   i   s   m   i   s   s   i   n
432   g  \0  \r  \n   B   O   O   T   M   G   R   i   s   c
448   o   m   p   r   e   s   s   e   d  \0  \r  \n   P   r   e   s
464   s   C   t   r   l   +   A   l   t   +   D   e   l   t
480   o   r   e   s   t   a   r   t  \r  \n  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0
496  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0 200 235 262 312  \0  \0   U 252
512
ajglap ~ #


 Anyway, great info. Thanks!

You are welcome and thanks again to alan mckinnon for confirming my
guess.

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:00:50 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 ajglap ~ # dd if=/dev/sda2 ibs=512 count=1 | od -c --address-radix=d

dd if=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB

Is clearer, add a partition number to check a partition.


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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I think this answer would be good to have on a Gentoo grub Wiki
 somewhere. (If it isn't already.) There have been times I've wondered
 the same thing and didn't know how to extract the data out fo the MBR
 the way you did. It would also be good to add a second example of how
 to get it out of a partition instead of the MBR in case grub is
 installed there.

I skipped over most of this thread, I now wished I hadn't :-) Not having 
the previous posts handy, this might already have been answered, but 
I'll go ahead anyway. The way I normally do the extraction is very 
simple:

from mbr:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/pts/0 bs=512 count=1

from disk partition:
dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/pts/0 bs=512 count=1

Change the of= appropriately, of course


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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:00:50 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 ajglap ~ # dd if=/dev/sda2 ibs=512 count=1 | od -c --address-radix=d

 dd if=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB

 Is clearer, add a partition number to check a partition.


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Neil,
   That single command would have saved me some heartache in the past.
I think it could be a good one-line addition to even something like
the Quick Install guide - I.e. If you want to sanity check your grub
installation then run this command to ensure grub is located where you
think it's located...

  Great info. thanks!

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[gentoo-user] Re: pear hangs no FUTEX_WAIT

2008-05-21 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, Frank Gruellich wrote:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20. May 08:
  Even the simple pear command from the command line hangs, strace
  show that it hangs at
 
  futex(0x2ac88d5093a0, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL

 I had this problem with rpm waiting for a lock in its DB.  This
 futex() call waits forever, that at memory address 0x2ac88d5093a0
 appears a 2. Try to figure out what's mapped on 0x2ac88d5093a0 and
 what could write a 2 to it but doesn't.  It should also appear
 somewhere in the strace. Maybe this gives a clue what it is waiting
 for.

 HTH.  Kind regards,
  Frank.
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address, it could give me a clue.

I was able to install PEAR-PEAR in the past, now it hangs too, there 
must be something obvious. 

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] kde 3.5.9 revdep-rebuild

2008-05-21 Thread James
hello,

I upgrade one system without incident. 
revdep-rebuild -p just found one package to rebuild.


Now I have upgraded to kde 3.5.9 successufully rebooting
into 3.5.9. When I run revdep-rebuild -p I get many things that need to
be rebuilt:

[ebuild UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r4 [3.5.9-r4]
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.8
[ebuild UD] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.8 [3.5.9]
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-3.5.8
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kolf-3.5.8
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kaboodle-3.5.8
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/krec-3.5.8
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.8  USE=-arts*


But they are all 3.5.8 based software. Should I just rebuild them?
revdep-rebuild

or do I need to run something like


emerge -a --depclean first?


If they were 3.5.9 packages, I could understand the need to re compile
these packages. Since they are 3.5.8 it seems to me, something is amiss?

I have also ran these updates since compiling 3.5.9:
env-update  source /etc/profile  etc-update 


Hopefully somebody will explain why this amd64 system's upgrade to
kd3 3.5.9 looks different from the first one I completed?


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5.9 revdep-rebuild

2008-05-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb James:

 I upgrade one system without incident.
 revdep-rebuild -p just found one package to rebuild.


 Now I have upgraded to kde 3.5.9 successufully rebooting
 into 3.5.9.

No need to reboot, BTW. Just logout and login again.

 When I run revdep-rebuild -p I get many things that need to 
 be rebuilt:

 [ebuild UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r4 [3.5.9-r4]
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.8
 [ebuild UD] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.8 [3.5.9]
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kolf-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kaboodle-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/krec-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.8  USE=-arts*


 But they are all 3.5.8 based software. Should I just rebuild them?

revdep-rebuild re-installs the exact same version of a broken package than the 
one that _is_ currently installed. You should try to update the listed 
packages first, then run revdep-rebuild again.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5.9 revdep-rebuild

2008-05-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, James wrote:
 hello,

 I upgrade one system without incident.
 revdep-rebuild -p just found one package to rebuild.


 Now I have upgraded to kde 3.5.9 successufully rebooting
 into 3.5.9. When I run revdep-rebuild -p I get many things that need
 to be rebuilt:

 [ebuild UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r4 [3.5.9-r4]
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.8
 [ebuild UD] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.8 [3.5.9]
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kolf-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kaboodle-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/krec-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.8  USE=-arts*

Without having the full output of revdep-rebuild to hand, one can only 
guess. It's not a arch vs ~arch issue as 3.5.9-r4 is already stable, so 
I would guess that the one package that came up in the first 
revdep-rebuild  is now pulling in the others in the second.

What was that package?

You also used revdep-rebuild -p, which re-uses the data from the last 
run of the program. Try again with -i as well to rescan the system





 But they are all 3.5.8 based software. Should I just rebuild them?
 revdep-rebuild

 or do I need to run something like


 emerge -a --depclean first?


 If they were 3.5.9 packages, I could understand the need to re
 compile these packages. Since they are 3.5.8 it seems to me,
 something is amiss?

 I have also ran these updates since compiling 3.5.9:
 env-update  source /etc/profile  etc-update


 Hopefully somebody will explain why this amd64 system's upgrade to
 kd3 3.5.9 looks different from the first one I completed?


 James



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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:07:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

  dd if=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB

That single command would have saved me some heartache in the past.
 I think it could be a good one-line addition to even something like
 the Quick Install guide - I.e. If you want to sanity check your grub
 installation then run this command to ensure grub is located where you
 think it's located...

You could check for all instances with

for i in /dev/[hs]d*
dd if=$i bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep -q GRUB \
 echo GRUB found in $i
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:07:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

  dd if=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB

That single command would have saved me some heartache in the past.
 I think it could be a good one-line addition to even something like
 the Quick Install guide - I.e. If you want to sanity check your grub
 installation then run this command to ensure grub is located where you
 think it's located...

 You could check for all instances with

 for i in /dev/[hs]d*
 dd if=$i bs=446 count=1 2/dev/null | strings | grep -q GRUB \
  echo GRUB found in $i


This is great info. I know of one case a long time ago, maybe 2001 or
2002, where I used an older drive and got burned by a preexisting copy
of grub in the MBR conflicting with the version I had installed into a
specific partition. I kept thinking grub was working but doing the
wrong thing. I suspect that had I run some commands like the ones were
talking about here I would have found the problem. As it turned out I
didn't and went the direction of completely repartitioning the drive.
What a waste!

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5.9 revdep-rebuild

2008-05-21 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 21 May 2008, James wrote:
  hello,
 
  I upgrade one system without incident.
  revdep-rebuild -p just found one package to rebuild.
 
 
  Now I have upgraded to kde 3.5.9 successufully rebooting
  into 3.5.9. When I run revdep-rebuild -p I get many things that need
  to be rebuilt:
 
  [ebuild UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r4 [3.5.9-r4]
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.5.8
  [ebuild UD] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.8 [3.5.9]
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-3.5.8
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kolf-3.5.8
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kaboodle-3.5.8
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/krec-3.5.8
  [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.8  USE=-arts*

 Without having the full output of revdep-rebuild to hand, one can only
 guess. It's not a arch vs ~arch issue as 3.5.9-r4 is already stable, so
 I would guess that the one package that came up in the first
 revdep-rebuild  is now pulling in the others in the second.

 What was that package?

Same thing happened to me because midway I had to stop the emerge and restart 
it later.  The solution is to emerge all the other packages first from the 
original emerge, without downgrading kde-base/kdelibs,  
kde-base/libkdegames.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 + PHP5 problem

2008-05-21 Thread Mateusz A. Mierzwiński

Alexey Medvedchikov pisze:

On 5/20/08, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Can anybody tell me what happend with PHP5 under (Linux athene
2.6.23-gentoo-r3 #1 PREEMPT RT Sun Dec 9 01:12:25 Local time zone must be
set--se x86_64 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux)
Gentoo? My server runs with error (and white pages after accessing):

 [Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2554 exit signal Segmentation
fault (11)
 [Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2556 exit signal Segmentation
fault (11)
 [Tue May 20 13:59:13 2008] [notice] child pid 2611 exit signal Segmentation
fault (11)

 After unloading PHP5 modules (moving 70_php5_mod) and restarting Apache
everything is OK but... without PHP. What's up. This is PHP build flags:

 [ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/php-5.2.6_rc4  USE=apache2 berkdb bzip2 cgi cli
crypt ftp gd hash iconv imap iodbc mysql mysqli ncurses nls odbc pcntl pcre
pic posix readline session simplexml soap sockets ssl sysvipc threads
unicode xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter zip zlib (-adabas) -bcmath
(-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cjk -concurrentmodphp -ctype -curl -curlwrappers
-db2 -dbase (-dbmaker) -debug -discard-path -doc (-empress) (-empress-bcs)
(-esoob) -exif -fastbuild (-fdftk) -filter (-firebird) -flatfile
-force-cgi-redirect (-frontbase) -gd-external -gdbm -gmp -inifile -interbase
-ipv6 (-java-external) -json -kerberos -ldap -ldap-sasl -libedit -mcve
-mhash -msql -mssql -oci8 (-oci8-instant-client) -pdo -postgres -qdbm
-recode -reflection -sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem -snmp (-solid) -spell -spl
-sqlite -suhosin (-sybase) (-sybase-ct) -tidy -tokenizer -truetype -wddx
-xpm -xsl -yaz -zip-external 0 kB




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Look for broken deps, after upgrading to 5.2.6_rc4 smth brokes, i dont
remember what - had same problem - use revdep-rebuild
(app-portage/gentoolkit)

  
I use revdep-rebuild every time I get any update. My system is 100% 
consistent but something is wrong. I've try to remove updates by 
mkfs.jfs and unpack backup created after update. Everything is ok, but 
when installing gallery2 php module still get segfault. What's wrong? 
I'm out of ideas...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 + PHP5 problem

2008-05-21 Thread Mateusz A. Mierzwiński

kashani pisze:

Mateusz A. Mierzwiński wrote:
Can anybody tell me what happend with PHP5 under (Linux athene 
2.6.23-gentoo-r3 #1 PREEMPT RT Sun Dec 9 01:12:25 Local time zone 
must be set--se x86_64 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel 
GNU/Linux) Gentoo? My server runs with error (and white pages after 
accessing):


[Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2554 exit signal 
Segmentation fault (11)
[Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2556 exit signal 
Segmentation fault (11)
[Tue May 20 13:59:13 2008] [notice] child pid 2611 exit signal 
Segmentation fault (11)


After unloading PHP5 modules (moving 70_php5_mod) and restarting 
Apache everything is OK but... without PHP. What's up. This is PHP 
build flags:


[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/php-5.2.6_rc4  USE=apache2 berkdb bzip2 cgi 
cli crypt ftp gd hash iconv imap iodbc mysql mysqli ncurses nls odbc 
pcntl pcre pic posix readline session simplexml soap sockets ssl 
sysvipc threads unicode xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter zip zlib 


Is your Apache also built with threads? If it is not I would rebuild 
PHP without threads and try again.


kashani
This are (after restore backup done before update) flags for compiling 
apache2 and PHP:


[ebuild   R   ] www-servers/apache-2.2.8  USE=ssl suexec threads -debug 
-doc -ldap (-selinux) -sni -static APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias asis 
auth_basic auth_digest authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm 
authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile 
authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cern_meta charset_lite 
dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache dumpio env expires 
ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info 
log_config log_forensic logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation 
proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_ftp proxy_http 
rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack version 
vhost_alias APACHE2_MPMS=worker -event -itk -peruser -prefork 4,746 kB


[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/php-5.2.5_p20080206-r3  USE=apache2 berkdb 
bzip2 cgi cli crypt ftp gd hash iconv iodbc mysql mysqli ncurses nls 
odbc pcntl pcre pic posix readline session simplexml snmp soap sockets 
ssl sysvipc threads unicode xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter zip zlib 
(-adabas) -bcmath (-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cjk -concurrentmodphp 
-ctype -curl -curlwrappers -db2 -dbase (-dbmaker) -debug -discard-path 
-doc (-empress) (-empress-bcs) (-esoob) -exif -fastbuild (-fdftk) 
-filter (-firebird) -flatfile -force-cgi-redirect (-frontbase) 
-gd-external -gdbm -gmp -imap -inifile -interbase -ipv6 (-java-external) 
-json -kerberos -ldap -ldap-sasl -libedit -mcve -mhash -msql -mssql 
-oci8 (-oci8-instant-client) -pdo -postgres -qdbm -recode -reflection 
-sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem (-solid) -spell -spl -sqlite -suhosin 
(-sybase) (-sybase-ct) -tidy -tokenizer -truetype -wddx -xpm -xsl -yaz 
-zip-external 8,861 kB


As You see every thing is OK. Flags are set same for apache and PHP. 
This is not a problem.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 + PHP5 problem

2008-05-21 Thread Mateusz A. Mierzwiński

Mateusz A. Mierzwiński pisze:

Alexey Medvedchikov pisze:

On 5/20/08, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Can anybody tell me what happend with PHP5 under (Linux athene
2.6.23-gentoo-r3 #1 PREEMPT RT Sun Dec 9 01:12:25 Local time zone 
must be

set--se x86_64 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux)
Gentoo? My server runs with error (and white pages after accessing):

 [Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2554 exit signal 
Segmentation

fault (11)
 [Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2556 exit signal 
Segmentation

fault (11)
 [Tue May 20 13:59:13 2008] [notice] child pid 2611 exit signal 
Segmentation

fault (11)

 After unloading PHP5 modules (moving 70_php5_mod) and restarting 
Apache
everything is OK but... without PHP. What's up. This is PHP build 
flags:


 [ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/php-5.2.6_rc4  USE=apache2 berkdb bzip2 
cgi cli
crypt ftp gd hash iconv imap iodbc mysql mysqli ncurses nls odbc 
pcntl pcre

pic posix readline session simplexml soap sockets ssl sysvipc threads
unicode xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter zip zlib (-adabas) -bcmath
(-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cjk -concurrentmodphp -ctype -curl 
-curlwrappers
-db2 -dbase (-dbmaker) -debug -discard-path -doc (-empress) 
(-empress-bcs)

(-esoob) -exif -fastbuild (-fdftk) -filter (-firebird) -flatfile
-force-cgi-redirect (-frontbase) -gd-external -gdbm -gmp -inifile 
-interbase

-ipv6 (-java-external) -json -kerberos -ldap -ldap-sasl -libedit -mcve
-mhash -msql -mssql -oci8 (-oci8-instant-client) -pdo -postgres -qdbm
-recode -reflection -sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem -snmp (-solid) 
-spell -spl
-sqlite -suhosin (-sybase) (-sybase-ct) -tidy -tokenizer -truetype 
-wddx

-xpm -xsl -yaz -zip-external 0 kB




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Look for broken deps, after upgrading to 5.2.6_rc4 smth brokes, i dont
remember what - had same problem - use revdep-rebuild
(app-portage/gentoolkit)

  
I use revdep-rebuild every time I get any update. My system is 100% 
consistent but something is wrong. I've try to remove updates by 
mkfs.jfs and unpack backup created after update. Everything is ok, but 
when installing gallery2 php module still get segfault. What's wrong? 
I'm out of ideas...

Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

Checking reverse dependencies...

Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
will be emerged.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

Assigning files to ebuilds... Nothing to rebuild

Evaluating package order... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache2 + PHP5 problem

2008-05-21 Thread deface

try strace'ing it


On May 21, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński wrote:


Alexey Medvedchikov pisze:
On 5/20/08, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Can anybody tell me what happend with PHP5 under (Linux athene
2.6.23-gentoo-r3 #1 PREEMPT RT Sun Dec 9 01:12:25 Local time zone  
must be
set--se x86_64 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/ 
Linux)

Gentoo? My server runs with error (and white pages after accessing):

[Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2554 exit signal  
Segmentation

fault (11)
[Tue May 20 13:59:11 2008] [notice] child pid 2556 exit signal  
Segmentation

fault (11)
[Tue May 20 13:59:13 2008] [notice] child pid 2611 exit signal  
Segmentation

fault (11)

After unloading PHP5 modules (moving 70_php5_mod) and restarting  
Apache
everything is OK but... without PHP. What's up. This is PHP build  
flags:


[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/php-5.2.6_rc4  USE=apache2 berkdb bzip2  
cgi cli
crypt ftp gd hash iconv imap iodbc mysql mysqli ncurses nls odbc  
pcntl pcre
pic posix readline session simplexml soap sockets ssl sysvipc  
threads

unicode xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter zip zlib (-adabas) -bcmath
(-birdstep) -calendar -cdb -cjk -concurrentmodphp -ctype -curl - 
curlwrappers
-db2 -dbase (-dbmaker) -debug -discard-path -doc (-empress) (- 
empress-bcs)

(-esoob) -exif -fastbuild (-fdftk) -filter (-firebird) -flatfile
-force-cgi-redirect (-frontbase) -gd-external -gdbm -gmp -inifile - 
interbase
-ipv6 (-java-external) -json -kerberos -ldap -ldap-sasl -libedit - 
mcve
-mhash -msql -mssql -oci8 (-oci8-instant-client) -pdo -postgres - 
qdbm
-recode -reflection -sapdb -sharedext -sharedmem -snmp (-solid) - 
spell -spl
-sqlite -suhosin (-sybase) (-sybase-ct) -tidy -tokenizer -truetype  
-wddx

-xpm -xsl -yaz -zip-external 0 kB




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Look for broken deps, after upgrading to 5.2.6_rc4 smth brokes, i  
dont

remember what - had same problem - use revdep-rebuild
(app-portage/gentoolkit)


I use revdep-rebuild every time I get any update. My system is 100%  
consistent but something is wrong. I've try to remove updates by  
mkfs.jfs and unpack backup created after update. Everything is ok,  
but when installing gallery2 php module still get segfault. What's  
wrong? I'm out of ideas...

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Re: [gentoo-user] $LINGUAS question

2008-05-21 Thread felix
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 03:13:44PM +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 Does it matter in which order languages are emerged?

Mplayer emerge says it uses the first one as the default language, and
one firefox emerge showed all help menus etc in some non-English
language.  Wheteher anything else cares, I do not know.

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[gentoo-user] Re: is grub in my mbr?

2008-05-21 Thread »Q«
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick:
  On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:53:28 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:  
If you don't, the stage1 in your MBR may not work with the
stage1.5 and stage2 in /boot. This happened with a recent GRUB
update.  
  
   Not to me.  
 
  Aha, the old works for me defence :)  
 
 No, it's the couldn't happen to me because my /boot is mounted ro
 defense.

I wouldn't rely on this.  My boot wasn't mounted at all, but the ebuild
mounted it and overwrote some files.  It could just as easily remount
a /boot that had been ro.  Using DONT_MOUNT_BOOT=yes in make.conf
should avoid it for good.

 BTW: One doesn't really need to keep grub installed after writing the
 MBR. Just unmerge it and your /boot and/or MBR are save.

True.  But I wanted the new grub, just wanted to install it to my /boot
manually.  

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