Re: [gentoo-user] another grub problem

2008-07-07 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Allan Gottlieb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 02:03]: grub find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,2) As expected hd0 is the disk grub setup (hd TAB Possible disks are: hd0 hd1 Again confirming that hd0 is a valid disk (as is hd1, but that is an external scsi that does not

Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-07 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb ext Volker Armin Hemmann: On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: What's this nmi_watchdog=0 good for (just curious)? to make sure it is

Re: [gentoo-user] another grub problem

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:02:08 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: grub find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,2) As expected hd0 is the disk You should now run root (hd0,2) grub setup (hd TAB Possible disks are: hd0 hd1 Again confirming that hd0 is a valid disk (as is hd1, but

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what defamation and slander is? If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there was no problem. It therefore seems to be important to prevent underlying messages... Do you understand opinion? This is the heart of

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 11:17]: Short answer: in a democracy, your freedom ends where you may start to influence the freedom of others. No, that's anarchy you describing, in democracy the majority decides were your personal freedom ends. Long answer: If

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/7/7, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also note that these people from Debian (whose claims have been repeated) have ZERO credibiltiy. In September 2006, when they started cdrkit, they claimed that there were exactly two problems: Claim 1:The CDDL is not a free license

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-07 Thread Dale
Sebastian Günther wrote: Everthing looks OK, but if there were more than 4 million files in that tarball, then you could run into trouble ;-) Only thing, what comes in mind, is that the filesystem, where the tarball itself resides, has problems with files bigger than 2,2 GB and the tarball

Re: SCG (was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/7/5, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joerg Schilling schrieb: This is a really bad idea. /usr/include/scg/ is a planned directory that is known to be unique. cdrkit does not deliver anything that is even approximately useful as a replacement for libscg. Installing the

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble burning a 4Gb tarball at the moment. Not sure what all the problem is but I had another DVD with one. This is the command I use and the error less the looong list of files: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # tar -xvf

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: If you repeat the opinion of other people, you make it _your_ opinion and if your opinion may harm other people, you are not allowed to publish it unless you are able to definitely prove it! There is a difference between repeating and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know what defamation and slander is? If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there was no problem. It therefore seems to be important to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: If you repeat the opinion of other people, you make it _your_ opinion and if your opinion may harm other people, you are not allowed to publish it unless you are able to definitely prove it!

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I should not feed trolls but Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream binary distro dropped cdrtools. It is their right to choose which packets they want to distribute and they don't owe you an explanation. Solaris (the only distribution where

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:11:59 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I should not feed trolls but ...otherwise, you'd starve to death. Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream binary distro dropped cdrtools. It is their right

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just says that it echoes the data to /dev/dsp (or another given device). So it's bound to exactly that device interface :( Well, if you did read the man paghe, you know that cdda2wav knows the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I forgot that you might have contact to a competitor. In this case, it should be possible to force shops to clearly separate the selling point for non-standard products from the products that behave

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:07:44 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: There is a difference between repeating and reporting. Reporting the opinions of others is legal in most Western countries, with certain, usually reasonable, constraints. Sorry, you missunderstand this at an important point:

Re: SCG (was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity I tried a manual install and /usr/include/scg/ was not created at all. The command i used was ./Gmake INS_BASE=/home/billie/cdrtools-test/ install Is this intended to be a joke or do you really like to ask me why it did not do

Re: SCG (was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/7/7, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity I tried a manual install and /usr/include/scg/ was not created at all. The command i used was ./Gmake INS_BASE=/home/billie/cdrtools-test/ install Is this intended to be a joke or do

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: If you repeat the opinion of other people, you make it _your_ opinion and if your opinion may harm other people, you are not allowed to publish it unless you are able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 16:31 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: Yessir, it does... dev-libs/pwlib-1.10.10-r1 USE=alsa ldap sdl ssl v4l xml -debug -ieee1394 -ipv6 -oss -sasl -v4l2 Is there anything else I should check? Perhaps I should enable OSS support as well...? I mean, it may work,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no approval process for free licenses within Debian: Please note however, that the Debian project decides on particular packages rather than licenses in abstract, and the lists are general explanations. It is possible to have a package

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to see that you try to write FUD: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debburn/cdrkit/trunk/FORK?op=filerev=0sc=0 of course verifies my claim. They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 13:14]: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I should not feed trolls but Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream binary distro dropped cdrtools. It is their right to choose which packets they want to distribute and they

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:07:44 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: There is a difference between repeating and reporting. Reporting the opinions of others is legal in most Western countries, with certain, usually reasonable, constraints. Sorry, you

Re: SCG (was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/7, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity I tried a manual install and /usr/include/scg/ was not created at all. The command i used was ./Gmake

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reality, regardless of what Debian, or the FSF, or you, or any lawyers say, is that the licensing issue has not been tested in court yet. Unless and until that happens, the whole debate is pure theory. Debian is clearly not willing to take

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another grub problem: SOLVED

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Gottlieb
(Summary: I had a problem with installing grub into the MBR. Two thoughtful replies set me straight) At Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:46:34 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:02:08 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: grub find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,2) As

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 13:14]: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I should not feed trolls but Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream binary distro dropped cdrtools. It is their right to choose

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. Of course the files needed to build cdrkit are in the source

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 17:28]: Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.07.08 13:14]: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I should not feed trolls but Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please finally stop your FUD! The CDDL definitely is a free license and Sun will definitely not publish any packages that could create problems. I *never* stated that CDDL is unfree. What I stated a couple of days ago, is that in *my

Re: [gentoo-user] on cdr{kit,tools} and licensing (was: emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools)

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. You keep saying this, but I just don't see where it's coming from. Firstly, the cdrkit source

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Montag 07 Juli 2008 17:30:06 schwätzte Joerg Schilling: Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. Of course the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They claimed that the official build system was not legal but they replaced it with a build system that definitely is not legal because it is not included in the source. Of course the files needed to build cdrkit are in the source

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Montag 07 Juli 2008 17:45:37 flamete Joerg Schilling: Back to my statement: iirc the Debian people refused to establish a whole new build chain to circumvent the problem, that they saw when distributing cdrtools. The original build system in cdrtools is not GPL but it is included in the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Joerg Schilling wrote: Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reality, regardless of what Debian, or the FSF, or you, or any lawyers say, is that the licensing issue has not been tested in court yet. Unless and until that happens, the whole debate is pure theory. Debian is clearly not

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:16:23PM +0100, Penguin Lover Graham Murray squawked: Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this suggestion mentioned? Is there a bug number? The Gentoo bug is http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221141 Ah! Thanks. I see that there is another

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please point to a cmake with a 3 clause BSDl! http://www.cmake.org Click on License. It's also in the file Copyright.txt in cmake-2.4.8.tar.gz, for example. Let me quote _this_ file to verify that there is a 4 clause BSDL. The fact that cmake may

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 7/7/08, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me quote _this_ file to verify that there is a 4 clause BSDL. Jörg, there are indeed four asterisks/clauses to count. But which clause represents the original GPL-incompatible advertising clause? IANAL, but I cannot see that clause in

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Heyho, Click on License. It's also in the file Copyright.txt in cmake-2.4.8.tar.gz, for example. Let me quote _this_ file to verify that there is a 4 clause BSDL. The fact that cmake may have been changed a few weeks ago does not matter. At the time when Bloch and Co. did replace the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heyho, ... a lot of new FUD you. Feel free to prove us wrong. I am sorry, but I cannot see any sense in talking to a person who uses majestatis pluralis for his claims. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Montag 07 Juli 2008 21:04:15 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heyho, ... a lot of new FUD you. Feel free to prove us wrong. I am sorry, but I cannot see any sense in talking to a person who uses majestatis pluralis for his claims. I does not make much

[gentoo-user] drive configuration changes on reboot; blkid.tab defeats UUIDs

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I had cause to reboot my gentoo box this morning, and it was an unexpected disaster. For some reason, my two PCI-X SATA controllers decided to switch places in the /dev/sd* lists. My /etc/fstab had explicit drive paths hard-coded, and they tried to mount stuff that didn't exist, and naturally

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-07 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Daniel Iliev wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: I am the author and I tell you that there is no problem. I am the only person who could sue you and I can't if I did tell you before that there is no problem. You may tell whatever you

Re: [gentoo-user] libselinux.so.1 dependency problems

2008-07-07 Thread Andreas Niederl
Hi, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: [...] It turns out that many, many executables require libselinux.so.1, despite what the documentation of --depclean in man emerge says (or what I think it says -- is this a bug or operator error?) Sadly sys-apps/coreutils is one of them. Recent versions -

Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-07 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 08:09:38AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 16:31 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: Yessir, it does... dev-libs/pwlib-1.10.10-r1 USE=alsa ldap sdl ssl v4l xml -debug -ieee1394 -ipv6 -oss -sasl -v4l2 Is there anything else I should check? Perhaps

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Tablet-PC...

2008-07-07 Thread Christopher Koeber
Hello, Simple question; has anyone installed Gentoo on a tablet-pc? I am thinking about it but wanted to hear advice and/or stories. I have a Gateway M280E. Works OK with Windows Vista Business ... Thanks for the time... -- Regards, Christopher Koeber

[gentoo-user] [ot] python + http authentication (with cherrypy)

2008-07-07 Thread James
Hi All, I'm writing a web application in CherryPy. What a beautiful thing it is to write Python code and get a simple yet powerful web output. :) The web application needs to have some decent level of security and authentication implemented. The big issue here is that the user password is

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] python + http authentication (with cherrypy)

2008-07-07 Thread Anielkis Herrera Gonzalez
did you tried django as web framework ??? El lun, 07-07-2008 a las 21:15 -0400, James escribió: Hi All, I'm writing a web application in CherryPy. What a beautiful thing it is to write Python code and get a simple yet powerful web output. :) The web application needs to have some decent