Re: [gentoo-user] unknown symbol request_module

2008-09-03 Thread cuciferus
On Monday 01 September 2008 15:45:56 Xav' wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:33:28 +0200, Roland Puntaier

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am installing Gentoo on an older notebook of mine and have the

 following

  problem:
 
  After a first try to make sound work, where I had OSS checked in the

 For a first start, OSS is now deprecated, so you have to use ALSA instead
 in the kernel.
The kernel oss is now deprecated

  kernel configuration,
  I followed the gentoo alsa guide
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
 
  But got a lot of unknown symbol entries at boot (viewed afterwards via
  dmesg).
  The first seems to be the reason for the others: unknown symbol
  request_module.
 
  request_module is defined in vmlinux (via nm vmlinux | grep
  request_module)
  but not linked in soundcore.o (nm soundcore.o | grep request_module

 says

  U(ndefined))
 
  Since request_module is needed to load kernel modules, no kernel modules
  can be loaded, and therefore symbols from such modules are not there.
  This leads to the other unknown symbol messages. So the question is,

 why

  request_module does not get linked properly.
 
  What I already tried:
  I saved the .config and did
  make mrproper
  and restored .config.
  Then
  make  make modules_install
 
  But that did not help.
 
  Did somebody experience anything similar?
  Could somebody give me a hint how to solve this problem?

 I think your .config file will help us more than you expect, and also the
 output of your dmesg :)

  Thanks in advance.
  Cheers. Roland

 Regards.

 Xavier Parizet
For laptops you could eyeball the wiki for they have there a complete setup 
for  most of the laptops. Also on the wiki you'll find a nice oss4 tutorial. 
The first advantage of oss4 it's that is s much easier to setup.
Also for further help you might try to be more specific: what laptop model? 
what sound card because maybe by chance some of us already did setup the same 
model with success. 



Re: [gentoo-user] Partition schme question

2008-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 05:57:47 Jarry wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null
  957169664 bytes (957 MB) copied, 17.5531 s, 54.5 MB/s
 
  dd if=/dev/sda12 of=/dev/null
  820854784 bytes (821 MB) copied, 21.4136 s, 38.3 MB/s
 
  What do you conclude from this?

 I'd say that /dev/sda2 is near beginning of disk (outer side,
 more sectors per cylinder, higher transfer speed), and /dev/sda12
 is near end of disk (inner side, less sectors per cylinder,
 lower transfer speed).

Ah, I see my troll caught one already. You seem to be under the common 
delusion that the structure reported by fdisk actually means something about 
the physical disk :-)

These days the entire concept of a cylinder is a mere abstraction to make 
tools like fdisk work in a sane manner.

But yes, it does seem that in this case sda2 is probably near the outer edge 
of the platter where the head speed relative to the disk is higher.
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -1 `eix -Iu --only-names` removing old version of Python

2008-09-03 Thread Stroller


On 31 Aug 2008, at 09:04, Mick wrote:

...
When I tried I got:

$ eix -Iu --only-names
app-arch/lzma-utils
dev-libs/libsigc++
media-plugins/gst-plugins-x
media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo
sys-apps/hdparm
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
virtual/perl-Test-Harness

However, when I run emerge -upDv --with-deps y world I get just one  
package:

...
[ebuild U ] app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.6 [4.32.5] USE=-nocxx%  
468 kB


This was approximately the same ratio of packages that each command  
produced for me... except many times more in actual numbers. I think  
`eix -Iu` found over a hundred outdated packages on my system when I  
ran it. And updating one of them - obviously I have no idea which! -  
fixed my expat problem.


Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Safe to remove old version of Python?

2008-09-03 Thread Stroller

Hi there,

No comment on this on my previous post when I also asked about `eix - 
uI`:


$ eix -I python$
[U] dev-lang/python
 Available versions:
(2.4)   2.4.4-r5 2.4.4-r6 2.4.4-r14
(2.5)   2.5.2-r6 ~2.5.2-r7
{+cxx +threads berkdb bootstrap build doc elibc_uclibc  
examples gdbm ipv6 ncurses nocxx nothreads readline sqlite ssl tk  
ucs2 wininst}
 Installed versions:  2.4.4-r9(2.4)(20:32:42 05/04/08)(berkdb  
examples gdbm ncurses readline ssl -bootstrap -build -doc - 
elibc_uclibc -ipv6 -nocxx -nothreads -tk -ucs2)
  2.5.2-r6(2.5)(03:46:36 08/30/08)(berkdb  
doc examples gdbm ncurses readline ssl threads -bootstrap -build - 
elibc_uclibc -ipv6 -sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst)

 Homepage:http://www.python.org/
 Description: Python is an interpreted, interactive,  
object-oriented programming language.


$ sudo python-updater
Password:
 * Starting Python Updater from 2.4 to 2.5 :
 * No packages needs to be remerged.
$


So second question is, can python-2.4.4-r9 be safely removed from the  
system?



$ ls -l /usr/bin/python
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 30 03:47 /usr/bin/python - python2.5
$ python -V
Python 2.5.2
$ equery d =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r9
[ Searching for packages depending on =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r9... ]
app-admin/webapp-config-1.50.16-r1 (virtual/python)
app-doc/doxygen-1.5.4 (dev-lang/python)
app-editors/vim-7.2 (python? dev-lang/python)
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (=dev-lang/python-2.0)
app-portage/layman-1.1.1 (virtual/python)
dev-db/postgresql-8.0.15 (python? =dev-lang/python-2.2)
dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 (virtual/python)
dev-java/java-config-2.1.6 (dev-lang/python)
   (virtual/python)
dev-lang/swig-1.3.36 (python? virtual/python)
dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.32 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.24-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-python/docutils-0.4-r3 (virtual/python)
   (=dev-lang/python-2.4)
dev-python/egenix-mx-base-2.0.5 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 (virtual/python)
dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 (dev-lang/python)
dev-python/setuptools-0.6_rc8-r1 (virtual/python)
 (=dev-lang/python-2.4)
dev-util/subversion-1.4.6 (python? =dev-lang/python-2.0)
net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.2.27 (python? dev-lang/python)
net-fs/samba-3.0.28a-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
net-print/cups-1.3.7-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
sys-apps/file-4.23 (virtual/python)
sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 (=dev-lang/python-2.4)
sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.12 (python? dev-lang/python)
sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r11 (python? =virtual/python-2.2.1)
$


I don't tend to keep up with best practices in Gentoo, so any  
criticism or advice would be much appreciated.


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Query: any good venue for sample lexyacc or flexbison programs

2008-09-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 3 September 2008, 04:57, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Thanks, I've created a Google Group, and added these links to a page
 in it. Check out http://groups.google.com/group/compilerSamples

I see that you are looking for the dragon book specs, here are some 
links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compilers:_Principles,_Techniques,_and_Tools
http://dragonbook.stanford.edu/
http://www.pearsonhighered.com/academic/product/0,3110,0321486811,00.html

It is universally regarded as the book about compilers.



Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate ca certs

2008-09-03 Thread Stroller


On 2 Sep 2008, at 17:56, Mick wrote:

...
WARN: postinst
Broken symlink for a certificate at //etc/ssl/certs/SPI_CA_2006-
cacert.pem
...
$ ls -l /etc/ssl/certs/SPI_CA_2006-cacert.pem
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 61 Aug 30 03:37 /etc/ssl/certs/SPI_CA_2006-
cacert.pem - /usr/share/ca-certificates/spi-inc.org/SPI_CA_2006-
cacert.crt
$


I assume that the above links are shown as red (or whatever)  
indicating that

the links are borked?


Yes, indeed.

I believe that it is left as an exercise for the reader to manually  
remove

such broken lists as your WARN message tells you:


WARN: postinst
Broken symlink for a certificate at //etc/ssl/certs/SPI_CA_2006-
cacert.pem
Broken symlink for a certificate at

[snip...]

You MUST remove the above broken symlinks




I kinda feel this is a poor error message for Portage / an ebuild.

I have now already deleted the links manually, but I rather think  
it'd've been nearer to say You should now run `find /etc/ssl/certs/ - 
type broken-symlinks -exec rm \{} \;` as root.


The reason I posted was because I felt slightly unclear.

Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to remove old version of Python?

2008-09-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:50:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:

 So second question is, can python-2.4.4-r9 be safely removed from the  
 system?

Yes.

-- 
Neil Bothwick

... I just forgot to increment the counter, Tom said, nonplussed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] unknown symbol request_module

2008-09-03 Thread Roland Puntaier
Hi cuciferus,

Thanks for pointing me to the gentoo wiki hardware list. It's impressive.

Still it does not have the 
Gericom Supersonic 1000
which I am setting up.

I did find a .config on the net for the 2.4.18 kernel 
http://techinfo.system33.de/LinuxOnGericom/index.html
 
http://www.tutorials.de/forum/linux-tutorials/144865-linux-bericht-debian-auf-gericom-notebook.html
 
(no .config posted)
but the 2.6 kernel config file is quite different, it seems.

Anyway, it would be interesting for me to find out the reason for the 
described problem. I have found a similar mail from someone else not for 
sound, but without solution/reason.
How can a kernel module not not know about the request_module symbol from 
vmlinux?

Roland

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 03.09.2008 08:17:00:

 On Monday 01 September 2008 15:45:56 Xav' wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:33:28 +0200, Roland Puntaier
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I am installing Gentoo on an older notebook of mine and have the
 
  following
 
   problem:
  
   After a first try to make sound work, where I had OSS checked in the
 
  For a first start, OSS is now deprecated, so you have to use ALSA 
instead
  in the kernel.
 The kernel oss is now deprecated
 
   kernel configuration,
   I followed the gentoo alsa guide
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
  
   But got a lot of unknown symbol entries at boot (viewed afterwards 
via
   dmesg).
   The first seems to be the reason for the others: unknown symbol
   request_module.
  
   request_module is defined in vmlinux (via nm vmlinux | grep
   request_module)
   but not linked in soundcore.o (nm soundcore.o | grep 
request_module
 
  says
 
   U(ndefined))
  
   Since request_module is needed to load kernel modules, no kernel 
modules
   can be loaded, and therefore symbols from such modules are not 
there.
   This leads to the other unknown symbol messages. So the question 
is,
 
  why
 
   request_module does not get linked properly.
  
   What I already tried:
   I saved the .config and did
   make mrproper
   and restored .config.
   Then
   make  make modules_install
  
   But that did not help.
  
   Did somebody experience anything similar?
   Could somebody give me a hint how to solve this problem?
 
  I think your .config file will help us more than you expect, and also 
the
  output of your dmesg :)
 
   Thanks in advance.
   Cheers. Roland
 
  Regards.
 
  Xavier Parizet
 For laptops you could eyeball the wiki for they have there a complete 
setup 
 for  most of the laptops. Also on the wiki you'll find a nice oss4 
tutorial. 
 The first advantage of oss4 it's that is s much easier to setup.
 Also for further help you might try to be more specific: what laptop 
model? 
 what sound card because maybe by chance some of us already did setupthe 
same 
 model with success. 
 




RE: [gentoo-user] USB headset...

2008-09-03 Thread Richard
I use ALSA for sound. The program alsamixer takes an argument '-c' and
then a number, indicating which of those devices which are available to
ALSA you want to adjust volume levels for.

Richard

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 22:20 -0400, Budd, Tracy wrote:
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mon 7/28/2008 9:51 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB headset...
  
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   Right now mixer shows the onboard sound as the sound device.
   How do I switch it to the head set?
   Thanks,
   -Tracy
 
 
 Which mixer, what environment, what hardware and what drivers are in use?
 




[gentoo-user] Unstable wireless

2008-09-03 Thread joshu
Hi there.

I'm at schools wireless right now, and it's very unstable. It's fine for
awhile, but it won't take long until it just dies.
It is unstable for the others aswell, but we can't figure out the
reason.

So, i lean over to you guys, i hope you can help me, thus us, out, with
this.

Please see the attachments, it's logs. wpa_supplicant in debugmode and
dmesg.

Thanks.
Daniel.
Initializing interface 'wlan0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf' 
driver 'wext' ctrl_interface 'N/A' bridge 'N/A'
Configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf' - 
'/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf'
Reading configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf'
fast_reauth=1
Line: 34 - start of a new network block
ssid - hexdump_ascii(len=3):
 4e 54 49  NTI 
PSK - hexdump(len=32): [REMOVED]
Priority group 0
   id=0 ssid='NTI'
Initializing interface (2) 'wlan0'
EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED
EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE
EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE
EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED
EAPOL: External notification - portEnabled=0
EAPOL: External notification - portValid=0
SIOCGIWRANGE: WE(compiled)=22 WE(source)=21 enc_capa=0xf
  capabilities: key_mgmt 0xf enc 0xf
WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=1, operstate=5
Own MAC address: 00:1f:3c:6e:0f:ca
wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=0 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=1 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=2 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=3 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0
wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures
wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
Setting scan request: 0 sec 10 usec
Added interface wlan0
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1002 ()
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b06 len=12
Ignore event for foreign ifindex 3
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
RTM_NEWLINK, IFLA_IFNAME: Interface 'wlan0' added
State: DISCONNECTED - SCANNING
Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)
Trying to get current scan results first without requesting a new scan to speed 
up initial association
Scan results: -1
Failed to get scan results
Failed to get scan results - try scanning again
Setting scan request: 0 sec 0 usec
Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)
Scan requested (ret=0) - scan timeout 5 seconds
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b19 len=16
Received 2479 bytes of scan results (9 BSSes)
Scan results: 9
Selecting BSS from priority group 0
Try to find WPA-enabled AP
0: 00:1e:e5:fa:78:b6 ssid='NTI' wpa_ie_len=24 rsn_ie_len=0 caps=0x11
   selected based on WPA IE
   selected WPA AP 00:1e:e5:fa:78:b6 ssid='NTI'
Try to find non-WPA AP
Trying to associate with 00:1e:e5:fa:78:b6 (SSID='NTI' freq=2432 MHz)
Cancelling scan request
WPA: clearing own WPA/RSN IE
Automatic auth_alg selection: 0x1
WPA: using IEEE 802.11i/D3.0
WPA: Selected cipher suites: group 16 pairwise 16 key_mgmt 2 proto 1
WPA: set AP WPA IE - hexdump(len=24): dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 
00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 02
WPA: clearing AP RSN IE
WPA: using GTK CCMP
WPA: using PTK CCMP
WPA: using KEY_MGMT WPA-PSK
WPA: Set own WPA IE default - hexdump(len=24): dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 
04 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 02
No keys have been configured - skip key clearing
wpa_driver_wext_set_drop_unencrypted
State: SCANNING - ASSOCIATING
wpa_driver_wext_set_operstate: operstate 0-0 (DORMANT)
WEXT: Operstate: linkmode=-1, operstate=5
wpa_driver_wext_associate
Setting authentication timeout: 10 sec 0 usec
EAPOL: External notification - EAP success=0
EAPOL: External notification - EAP fail=0
EAPOL: External notification - portControl=Auto
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b06 len=12
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b04 len=16
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x1003 ([UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b1a len=19
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x11003 ([UP][LOWER_UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8c02 len=235
WEXT: Custom wireless event: 
'ASSOCINFO(ReqIEs=00034e5449010802040b160c12182432043048606cdd160050f2010150f2040150f2040150f202dd070050f202000100
 
RespIEs=010482848b9632088c129824b048606cdd180050f2020101800083a4a7a4c2435e00e2322f00)'
Association info event
req_ies - hexdump(len=54): 00 03 4e 54 49 01 08 02 04 0b 16 0c 12 18 24 32 04 
30 48 60 6c dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 
f2 02 dd 07 00 50 f2 02 00 01 00
resp_ies - hexdump(len=42): 01 04 82 84 8b 96 32 08 8c 12 98 24 b0 48 60 6c dd 
18 00 50 f2 02 01 01 80 00 83 a4 00 00 a7 a4 00 00 c2 43 5e 00 e2 32 2f 00
WPA: set own WPA/RSN IE - hexdump(len=24): dd 16 00 50 f2 01 01 00 00 50 f2 04 
01 00 00 50 f2 04 01 00 00 50 f2 02
RTM_NEWLINK: operstate=0 ifi_flags=0x11003 ([UP][LOWER_UP])
Wireless event: cmd=0x8b15 len=24
Wireless event: new AP: 00:1e:e5:fa:78:b6
State: 

Re: [gentoo-user] Unstable wireless

2008-09-03 Thread joshu
Wow, my mutt configuration is'nt as good as i hoped.
/me goes back to the drawing desk.

I hope it's still readable though. :-)

Daniel.



Re: [gentoo-user] Partition schme question

2008-09-03 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Alan,
on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:57:42AM +0200, you wrote:
 These days the entire concept of a cylinder is a mere abstraction to make 
 tools like fdisk work in a sane manner.

Of course not. The disk is physically organized in cylinders, that's the
structure dictated by the mechanical design. That a disk controller is
theoretically free to map cylinders and sectors to whereever it pleases
doesn't mean that there wasn't a direct relationship between cylinder
number and physical location on the platter in the vast majority of
non-broken (i.e. cylinder-remapped) disks. With many HD tests in
magazines you get a cylinder-vs.-transfer-rate plot and it still mostly
matches the old rule. I suppose not even firmware hackers are really
eager to make things more complicated than absolutely necessary :)

cheers,
Matthias

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[gentoo-user] Trendnet TEW-424UB not working

2008-09-03 Thread Simon

Hi there,
  this thing is a wireless-usb-key and it apparently comes in 3 versions; the 
1st and the 3rd have linux drivers (3rd is RTL8187) while the 2nd requires 
ndiswrapper.


  Well, I have tried pretty much everything here and the best results I get are 
with ndiswrapper (I just get a little more info).  When I just do a ndiswrapper 
-l, it gives:

net8187b : driver installed

Which is good, if I plug the device and try that again, I get:
net8187b : driver installed
device (0BDA:8189) present

And /var/log/messages shows only those two lines:
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
sb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

After which, in ifconfig -a, I still only have my two eth{0,1} and lo.

My goal is to get the interface, after that, I'll be good to go, but this here 
is really bugging me.  I'm including attachments containing my dmesg, lsusb -v, 
and lspci -v (just in case).


Thanks in advance for any help!
 Simon
Linux version 2.6.24 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 
p1.1)) #7 SMP Fri Aug 29 10:32:22 EDT 2008
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 1fff - 1fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 1fff3000 - 2000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
511MB LOWMEM available.
Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 131056) 0 entries of 256 used
Zone PFN ranges:
  DMA 0 - 4096
  Normal   4096 -   131056
  HighMem131056 -   131056
Movable zone start PFN for each node
early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
0:0 -   131056
On node 0 totalpages: 131056
  DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
  DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
  DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
  Normal zone: 991 pages used for memmap
  Normal zone: 125969 pages, LIFO batch:31
  HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap
  Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap
DMI 2.1 present.
ACPI: RSDP 000F71A0, 0014 (r0 FIC   )
ACPI: RSDT 1FFF3000, 0028 (r1 FICKA6110   30302E31 AWRD0)
ACPI: FACP 1FFF3040, 0074 (r1 FICKA6110   30302E31 AWRD0)
ACPI: DSDT 1FFF30C0, 2216 (r1 FICKA6110   1000 MSFT  109)
ACPI: FACS 1FFF, 0040
ACPI: BIOS age (1999) fails cutoff (2001), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI
ACPI: Disabling ACPI support
Allocating PCI resources starting at 3000 (gap: 2000:dfff)
Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 130033
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdb1 hdc=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with lapic
mapped APIC to b000 (0140c000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes)
Detected 451.049 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
console [tty0] enabled
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 512928k/524224k available (3413k kernel code, 10788k reserved, 1747k 
data, 284k init, 0k highmem)
virtual kernel memory layout:
fixmap  : 0xffe15000 - 0xf000   (1960 kB)
pkmap   : 0xff80 - 0xffc0   (4096 kB)
vmalloc : 0xe080 - 0xff7fe000   ( 495 MB)
lowmem  : 0xc000 - 0xdfff   ( 511 MB)
  .init : 0xc0613000 - 0xc065a000   ( 284 kB)
  .data : 0xc045556e - 0xc060a334   (1747 kB)
  .text : 0xc010 - 0xc045556e   (3413 kB)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
SLUB: Genslabs=11, HWalign=32, Order=0-1, MinObjects=4, CPUs=1, Nodes=1
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 903.30 BogoMIPS (lpj=1806616)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Partition schme question

2008-09-03 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Alan,
on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:17:07PM +0200, you wrote:
 However, it does make the most sense to keep fdisk's cylinders in some sort 
 of 
 sequential order, so low numbered cylinders will in all probability end up 
 near one edge and high numbered cylinders at the other edge.
 
 I strongly suspect that you know this also, and we actually do have the same 
 understanding of how it works :-)

Yes, now I'm pretty sure we do ;)

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Partition schme question

2008-09-03 Thread Jarry

Alan McKinnon wrote:

dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/null
957169664 bytes (957 MB) copied, 17.5531 s, 54.5 MB/s
dd if=/dev/sda12 of=/dev/null
820854784 bytes (821 MB) copied, 21.4136 s, 38.3 MB/s

What do you conclude from this?

I'd say that /dev/sda2 is near beginning of disk (outer side,
more sectors per cylinder, higher transfer speed), and /dev/sda12
is near end of disk (inner side, less sectors per cylinder,
lower transfer speed).


Ah, I see my troll caught one already. You seem to be under the common 
delusion that the structure reported by fdisk actually means something about 
the physical disk :-)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not remember saying anything like
that. And frankly, I can not image how you came to that conclusion.
I just said /dev/sda2 is probably on the outer side, and /dev/sda12
on inner side, based on that difference in transfer speeds...

These days the entire concept of a cylinder is a mere abstraction to make 
tools like fdisk work in a sane manner.


Partially correct. True is, C/H/S numbers in fdisk does not have any
practical meaning these days. But there are still cylinders, heads
and sectors on disk. And total number of sectors reported by fdisk
is the same, as real total number of sectors on disk. These sectors
are numbered starting first with the most outer tracks on disk on
all physical cylinders, continuing towards the inner most track.
This holds true for nearly all sata/pata-disks. Maybe scsi/sas
have different sector numbering scheme...

But yes, it does seem that in this case sda2 is probably near the outer edge 
of the platter where the head speed relative to the disk is higher.


Well, I'd say head speed does not anything to do with it. What makes
transfer rate on the outer tracks of disk faster is higher number of
sectors per cylinder, because nowadays disks have about constant
bit-density (only about constant, because number of sectors
per cylinder is a discrete number)...

Jarry

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[gentoo-user] make menuconfig

2008-09-03 Thread vetrocemento
Hi people :)
can anyone help me setting the kernel with only the strictly needed modules for 
the my 
laptop's hardware? Here is my 'lspci' print and a generic description of the 
laptop:

laptop: IBM Thinkpad R60
Intel Centrino duo T2300 1,66 Ghz
512 Mb ram
80 Gb sata HD
Wireless network card: Intel 3945 a/b/g
Ethernet network card: Broadcom Gigabit BCM5751M 

Not interested in having firewire,PCMCIA or bluetooth support.

lspci-- see attached .txt file

thanks in advance
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Query: any good venue for sample lexyacc or flexbison programs

2008-09-03 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:00:34 +0200 Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 3 September 2008, 04:57, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Thanks, I've created a Google Group, and added these links to a page
 in it. Check out http://groups.google.com/group/compilerSamples

 I see that you are looking for the dragon book specs, here are some 
 links:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compilers:_Principles,_Techniques,_and_Tools
 http://dragonbook.stanford.edu/
 http://www.pearsonhighered.com/academic/product/0,3110,0321486811,00.html

 It is universally regarded as the book about compilers.

I have extensive lecture notes based on the first 8 chapters.
They are available off my home page

http://cs.nyu.edu/~gottlieb

allan



[gentoo-user] Re: YouTube

2008-09-03 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes:

 
 I'm using Flash 10_beta20080811.  All high-resolution content on YouTube 
 gives a We're sorry, this video is no longer available. error.  Can 
 someone confirm?  Here's a high-res video:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZd3WU5l38fmt=18


Confirmed:

Installed versions:  10_beta20080811!m(02:12:45 08/28/08)

with seamonkey Installed versions:  1.1.11(17:45:15 08/09/08)


It seems that all videos related to vendor offerings and H.264
are problematic, to some extent, sporadically. Not due to the
wonderful (mathematically  rigorous) nature of h.264 but the old
habits of vendors. I suspect.

Maybe the issue if being discussed by the devs over at ffmpeg or
such technically astute groups of video hacks..


imho,
James




[gentoo-user] Re: make menuconfig

2008-09-03 Thread James
 vetrocemento at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hi people :)
 can anyone help me setting the kernel with only the strictly needed modules
for the my 
 laptop's hardware? 

Well,

Here is a very basic url to help you get started:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Detailed_Kernel_Configuration


There is another method using 'genkernel' but, I would 
not recommend that (many others will disagree)...


I brought up the subject, recently, about this very issue,
but it seems no many believe folks need a wiki (which is
maintained) related to kernel building  that does not
involve genkernel.

From Gmane.org you can find this tread:

From: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com
Subject: make oldconfig
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.gentoo.user
Date: 2008-08-04 21:04:44 GMT (4 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours and 59 minutes ago)


It seems your posting validates my previous concerns.
(ouch, now that's going to leave a mark)

imho,
James






[gentoo-user] VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

2008-09-03 Thread Michele Schiavo
Someone know what is making this warning in dmesg ?

VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel


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Re: [gentoo-user] VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

2008-09-03 Thread Xav'
Le Wednesday 03 September 2008 20:14:44 Michele Schiavo, vous avez écrit :
 Someone know what is making this warning in dmesg ?

 VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

h without any more information (kernel version, config, etc...), i'm afraid 
we cannot help you...


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Re: [gentoo-user] VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

2008-09-03 Thread Xav'
Le Wednesday 03 September 2008 20:29:10 Xav', vous avez écrit :
 Le Wednesday 03 September 2008 20:14:44 Michele Schiavo, vous avez écrit :
  Someone know what is making this warning in dmesg ?
 
  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

 h without any more information (kernel version, config, etc...), i'm
 afraid we cannot help you...

So, after little googling, maybe this is because /dev is mounted with noexec 
option... I give you some pointer where to start your search : 
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/96035 ;)

HTH.

Xav'


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Re: [gentoo-user] Partition schme question

2008-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 18:18:26 Jarry wrote:
  Ah, I see my troll caught one already. You seem to be under the common
  delusion that the structure reported by fdisk actually means something
  about the physical disk :-)

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not remember saying anything like
 that. And frankly, I can not image how you came to that conclusion.
 I just said /dev/sda2 is probably on the outer side, and /dev/sda12
 on inner side, based on that difference in transfer speeds...

Well, I did say seem and I could be mistaken.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel

2008-09-03 Thread Michele Schiavo
is not noexec.
it's a lot of months i see this on dmesg, but i don't have any problem.
i just like to know what are generating this warning...


 mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,size=10240k,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,size=1048576k)
rc-svcdir on /lib64/rc/init.d type tmpfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,size=1024k,mode=755)
cachedir on /lib64/splash/cache type tmpfs (rw,size=4096k,mode=644)
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda3 on /home type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/dati type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime)
none on /var/tmp/portage type tmpfs (rw,size=5G,uid=250,gid=250)
/mnt/dati on /export/dati type none (rw,bind)
/home on /export/home type none (rw,bind)
/usr/portage/distfiles on /export/distfiles type none (rw,bind)
/usr/local/scripts on /export/scripts type none (rw,bind)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs
(rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
rpc_pipefs on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw)


Il giorno mer, 03/09/2008 alle 20.43 +0200, Xav' ha scritto:

 Le Wednesday 03 September 2008 20:29:10 Xav', vous avez écrit :
  Le Wednesday 03 September 2008 20:14:44 Michele Schiavo, vous avez écrit :
   Someone know what is making this warning in dmesg ?
  
   VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel
 
  h without any more information (kernel version, config, etc...), i'm
  afraid we cannot help you...
 
 So, after little googling, maybe this is because /dev is mounted with noexec 
 option... I give you some pointer where to start your search : 
 http://communities.vmware.com/thread/96035 ;)
 
 HTH.
 
 Xav'


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[gentoo-user] Dealing with MS Access files (.mdb)

2008-09-03 Thread felix
I have a file which may or may not have useful info in it (I am trying
to translate US/Canada NPANXX phone numbers into latitude/longitude or
at least city without buying a commercial db).  I know almost nothing
of Access otehr than it being some kind of bastardized database.  I
guess it runs some form of SQL but I don't even know that.

Does anyone know of a program to convert this .mdb file into something
useful, other than access to Access on a Windows machine?  If it truly
is an SQL database, I suppose it would be some kind of dump complete
with table creation , foreign keys, etc.  But I can write a script to
deal with that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dealing with MS Access files (.mdb)

2008-09-03 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 04.09.2008 00:41:

I have a file which may or may not have useful info in it (I am trying
to translate US/Canada NPANXX phone numbers into latitude/longitude or
at least city without buying a commercial db).  I know almost nothing
of Access otehr than it being some kind of bastardized database.  I
guess it runs some form of SQL but I don't even know that.

Does anyone know of a program to convert this .mdb file into something
useful, other than access to Access on a Windows machine?  If it truly
is an SQL database, I suppose it would be some kind of dump complete
with table creation , foreign keys, etc.  But I can write a script to
deal with that.




app-office/mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ ??

Regards,

Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] Dealing with MS Access files (.mdb)

2008-09-03 Thread felix
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 app-office/mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ ??

Interesting ... I will have a look tonight.  Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Query: any good venue for sample lexyacc or flexbison programs

2008-09-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:00:34 +0200 Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 3 September 2008, 04:57, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 Thanks, I've created a Google Group, and added these links to a page
 in it. Check out http://groups.google.com/group/compilerSamples

 I see that you are looking for the dragon book specs, here are some
 links:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compilers:_Principles,_Techniques,_and_Tools
 http://dragonbook.stanford.edu/
 http://www.pearsonhighered.com/academic/product/0,3110,0321486811,00.html

 It is universally regarded as the book about compilers.

 I have extensive lecture notes based on the first 8 chapters.
 They are available off my home page

 http://cs.nyu.edu/~gottlieb

 allan



Thanks.  I'll have a peek.


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[gentoo-user] Re: make menuconfig

2008-09-03 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes:


  vetrocemento at gmail.com writes:
in private email to me, which I choose to post here:

thanks for precious link to the wiki.
though, I was lookin for advices to maintain kernel size as small as possible
(and have a fast 
boot up), not simply to configure it, but the wiki is pretty exhaustive, so I'll
use it to make some 
.configs and test them.
again, thanks 
 G 

Well, you are welcome. We that use gentoo are very proud of
our distro, event tho we argue amongst ourselves, it's to make
gentoo better for everyone to use.

Using gentoo is not easy, as you have 100% control over your
hardware and OS.

That said, I posted what I posted to make a point, that we (imho)
need documentation other than genkernel for folks to use to
address issues such as you have articulated. I'm not saying
it would be easy, but, that questions on kernel building come
up time and time again.

If you have specific questions, please ask them on this list.
Despite the fact that 'old hacks' take pot-shots at one another,
your questions are our concern; so don't be shy about asking
for help on this group. After all, most folks on this list
have learned to ignore my musings, unless it merits additional
verbiage.


Now, how to make a small kernel. Well for starters you can add -Os
such as what I have done for this 586 machine this
line to your make.conf file:

CFLAGS=-Os -march=i586 

the -Os is to build a small kernel, here is some links that will help:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Module-HOWTO/#AEN73

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags


 there is some urls that further discuss the -Os option for
building small, but I cannot find them. Maybe someone else
will add these links to this thread, or you can google them
directly

As far as make menuconfig, just use loadable modules to keep the
kernel size small, and eliminate as much as you can. Eliminate
a few items, rebuild a kernel and test frequently. Continue (repeat)
until you get a small, fast kernel that runs on your limited
resources as you like.

As far as fast booting, check into the parallel booting (whatever)
that is fairly new. I have not explored it yet, but, others
on this list know about speeding up the boot process.


hth,

James




Re: [gentoo-user] Dealing with MS Access files (.mdb)

2008-09-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
app-office/mdbtools

BillK


On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 15:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a file which may or may not have useful info in it (I am trying
 to translate US/Canada NPANXX phone numbers into latitude/longitude or
 at least city without buying a commercial db).  I know almost nothing
 of Access otehr than it being some kind of bastardized database.  I
 guess it runs some form of SQL but I don't even know that.
 
 Does anyone know of a program to convert this .mdb file into something
 useful, other than access to Access on a Windows machine?  If it truly
 is an SQL database, I suppose it would be some kind of dump complete
 with table creation , foreign keys, etc.  But I can write a script to
 deal with that.
 



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[gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across	multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
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