Re: [gentoo-user] What heppined with intel driver in xorg?
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Alexander Kuprijanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi After my last emerge --sync I see -intel% (-i810%) in VIDEO_CARDS What happined if I'll reinstall mesa and xorg-server? Does my onboard intel vodeocard will work after this update? The i810 driver was recently renamed to intel. After the upgrade, if you have problems starting X, put intel in xorg.conf. Please search the archives; there was a recent thread on this. Liviu
AW: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?
Hi, Von: Dirk Heinrichs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, since you seem to be german, there's an article about SW-/MoBo-/HW-RAID in the current issue of c't magazine. Thank you, bought the issue - it was rather helpful to me! Ciao, Wolfgang
Re: [gentoo-user] md-device too small: where's my mistake?
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: md2 is the one that gives me headaches. AFAI understand it should be about 3TB in size, but it is only 774 GB # fdisk -l /dev/md2 Platte /dev/md2: 774.0 GByte, 774044975104 Byte I am surprised that noone seems to have advice for me. Is my mistake so obvious? Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] md-device too small: where's my mistake?
Am Wednesday 22 October 2008 15:58:44 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: md2 is the one that gives me headaches. AFAI understand it should be about 3TB in size, but it is only 774 GB # fdisk -l /dev/md2 Platte /dev/md2: 774.0 GByte, 774044975104 Byte 2 Köpfe, 4 Sektoren/Spuren, 188975824 Zylinder Einheiten = Zylinder von 8 × 512 = 4096 Bytes Disk identifier: 0x Why? You cannot manage disks = ~2TB with fdisk (i.e., DOS partition tables), as they (or rather the on-disk-structure of DOS partition tables) have an inherent limitation in the maximum number of LBA48-blocks they can address. I'd presume that because of this inherent limitation, fdisk is reporting the wrong total size (2TB+774G+epsilon ~ 3TB; sounds like somewhere someone is doing a modulo operation, possibly), and completely off values for heads/sectors. Anyway, md-devices cannot be partitioned anyway (of course you can write a partition table on them, but the kernel won't use that to create md2-1,-2, etc.), so using fdisk is wrong. If you want to check the real size of the device, don't use fdisk, but rather use blockdev --getsize64 /dev/md2 which shows you the byte-count of the corresponding volume, and which I think will be 3TB, as you want it to be. If you want to subpartition large devices, use lvm(2), which does not have the 2TB limitation on size. Hope this helps! -- Heiko Wundram hackerkey://v4sw7CHJLSUY$hw5ln5pr7FOP$ck2ma9u7FL$w3DVWXm0l7GL$i65e6t3EMRSXb7ADORen5a26s5MSr2p-6.62/-6.56g5AORZ
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying KDE-4
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 19:32:08 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Please post again the output from emerge -pvutND world but attach it in a file so it doesn't get crippled by the mail program. Attached. Also what I have seen from your previous tree output is that you are trying to do many things at one time. Upgrading to kde4 changing and changing many use flags. This makes debugging very hard. Try to do only one thing at a time That's only because one thing leads to another. All I wanted to do was to install KDE-4; everything else I've tried has been to enable that. Of course I do try to do only one thing at a time - I had half a lifetime of debugging of one kind or another. I started by running autounmask, as suggested by Neil B; that unmasked 81 packages. Then I tried to update world - 82 times: one for each other package that needed unmasking. At the end of that I had all the packages unmasked that were required for an upgrade to KDE-4, but I also had the blocker that started this conversation. I've been trying to find the conflict in dependencies ever since, with your help - thanks again. Here's another titbit: $ equery d '=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4' [ Searching for packages depending on =x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4... ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.8.7 (qt4? =x11-libs/qt-4.3:4) x11-libs/qscintilla-2.1-r1 (qt4? =x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4) -- Rgds Peter These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ... ... done! [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-3.0.0 USE=cups dbus* gtk java kde mono nsplugin opengl pam -debug -eds -gnome -gstreamer -ldap -odk -templates LINGUAS=en_GB -af -ar -as_IN -be_BY -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -dz -el -en -en_US -en_ZA -eo -es -et -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -it -ja -km -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml_IN -mr_IN -nb -ne -nl -nn -nr -ns -or_IN -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -sh -sk -sl -sr -ss -st -sv -sw_TZ -ta_IN -te_IN -tg -th -ti_ER -tn -tr -ts -uk -ur_IN -ve -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu 338,400 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] 0 kB [ebuild NS ] x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 [3.3.8-r4] USE=accessibility cups dbus gif jpeg mng mysql odbc opengl png qt3support ssl tiff zlib -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) -glib -nas -nis -pch -postgres -sqlite -sqlite3 -xinerama INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom 41,350 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdegraphics-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] 0 kB [ebuild U ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p27725-r1 [1.0_rc2_p26753] USE=3dnowext X a52 alsa arts cddb cdparanoia cpudetection doc dv dvd enca gif gtk iconv ipv6 jpeg live mad mmx mmxext mp3 openal opengl png real rtc sdl sse sse2 theora truetype unicode vorbis x264 xanim xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc -3dnow -aac -aalib (-altivec) -amrnb -amrwb -bidi -bindist -bl -cdio -custom-cflags -custom-cpuopts% -debug -dga -dirac% -directfb -dts -dvb -dxr3% -encode -esd -fbcon -ftp -ggi -jack -joystick -ladspa -libcaca -lirc -lzo -md5sum -mp2 -musepack -nas -nemesi -oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr% -quicktime -radio -rar -samba -schroedinger% -speex -srt -ssse3 (-svga) -teletext -tga -v4l -v4l2 (-vidix) (-win32codecs) -xinerama -zoran VIDEO_CARDS=-mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa 8,170 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-floppy 0 kB [ebuild R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.6i-r2 USE=X a52 alsa arts cdda cddb dc1394 dvd httpd libnotify live mp3 mpeg ncurses nsplugin ogg opengl png rtsp sdl sdl-image stream svg truetype vcd vorbis x264 xml xv (-3dfx) -aalib (-altivec) -avahi -bidi -corba -daap -debug -directfb -dts -dvb -esd -fbcon -flac -ggi -gnome -gnutls -hal* -jack -libcaca -lirc -matroska -modplug -musepack -optimisememory -oss -samba -seamonkey -shout -skins -speex (-svga) -theora -upnp -v4l -vlm (-win32codecs) -wxwindows -xinerama -xosd -xulrunner 11,522 kB [ebuild R ] media-gfx/gimp-2.4.6 USE=alsa curl dbus* doc exif gtkhtml lcms mmx mng pdf png python smp sse svg tiff wmf -aalib (-altivec) -debug -gnome -hal* 17,935 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kate-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=plasma -debug -htmlhandbook -kdeprefix 4,793 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-kdeprefix 41,367 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.1.2 USE=-kdeprefix 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=opengl -debug -kdeprefix -xscreensaver 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-styles-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-debug -kdeprefix 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-kdeprefix 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-icewm-themes-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-kdeprefix 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-kdeprefix 0 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdeartwork-kworldclock-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-kdeprefix 0 kB [nomerge ] kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.1.2 [3.5.9] USE=-floppy [ebuild NS ]
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying KDE-4
On Thursday 23 October 2008 11:28:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2008 19:32:08 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Please post again the output from emerge -pvutND world but attach it in a file so it doesn't get crippled by the mail program. Attached. Finally, we can see what you are running into. This is a stable box and you are trying to install latest kde:4 onto it right? emerge is trying to install qt-4.3.3 which is marked stable and conflicts with what kde-4.1.2 wants generate an autounmask for qt Also what I have seen from your previous tree output is that you are trying to do many things at one time. Upgrading to kde4 changing and changing many use flags. This makes debugging very hard. Try to do only one thing at a time That's only because one thing leads to another. All I wanted to do was to install KDE-4; everything else I've tried has been to enable that. Of course I do try to do only one thing at a time - I had half a lifetime of debugging of one kind or another. I started by running autounmask, as suggested by Neil B; that unmasked 81 packages. Then I tried to update world - 82 times: one for each other package that needed unmasking. At the end of that I had all the packages unmasked that were required for an upgrade to KDE-4, but I also had the blocker that started this conversation. I've been trying to find the conflict in dependencies ever since, with your help - thanks again. Here's another titbit: $ equery d '=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4' [ Searching for packages depending on =x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4... ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.8.7 (qt4? =x11-libs/qt-4.3:4) x11-libs/qscintilla-2.1-r1 (qt4? =x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] md-device too small: where's my mistake?
Heiko Wundram schrieb: You cannot manage disks = ~2TB with fdisk (i.e., DOS partition tables), as they (or rather the on-disk-structure of DOS partition tables) have an inherent limitation in the maximum number of LBA48-blocks they can address. I'd presume that because of this inherent limitation, fdisk is reporting the wrong total size (2TB+774G+epsilon ~ 3TB; sounds like somewhere someone is doing a modulo operation, possibly), and completely off values for heads/sectors. Anyway, md-devices cannot be partitioned anyway (of course you can write a partition table on them, but the kernel won't use that to create md2-1,-2, etc.), so using fdisk is wrong. If you want to check the real size of the device, don't use fdisk, but rather use blockdev --getsize64 /dev/md2 which shows you the byte-count of the corresponding volume, and which I think will be 3TB, as you want it to be. Nope, it did show the same 774 GB. If you want to subpartition large devices, use lvm(2), which does not have the 2TB limitation on size. Hope this helps! Thanks for your explanations and suggestions ... but ... I just now received a reply to my posting on the german list, the mistake was that CONFIG_LBD was not set in my kernel. Now I get: # blockdev --getsize64 /dev/md2 2973068230656 # fdisk -l Platte /dev/md2: 2973.0 GByte, 2973068230656 Byte Thanks anyway! Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying KDE-4
2008/10/23 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 23 October 2008 11:28:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2008 19:32:08 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Please post again the output from emerge -pvutND world but attach it in a file so it doesn't get crippled by the mail program. Attached. Finally, we can see what you are running into. This is a stable box and you are trying to install latest kde:4 onto it right? emerge is trying to install qt-4.3.3 which is marked stable and conflicts with what kde-4.1.2 wants generate an autounmask for qt I thought he already installed some of the qt split ebuilds so they should be unmasked, but let us see :-) -- Regards, Daniel
[gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
Hi, I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
Helmut Jarausch a gentiment tapote: Hi, I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany Hi $ qfile udevinfo $ sys-fs/udev (/usr/bin/udevinfo) Cheers, -- Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
On 10/23/2008 12:29 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? With my udev-124-r1 it is in the udev package. But /usr/bin/udevinfo is just a symlink to /sbin/udevadm, so maybe you should look for the latter. Add: Just built 130-r1. In the messages for it is: If you build an initramfs including udev, then please make sure that the /sbin/udevadm binary gets included, and your scripts changed to use it, as it replaces the old helper apps udevinfo, udevtrigger, ... Regards, Christian Franke signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
On 23 Oct, Jacques Montier wrote: Helmut Jarausch a gentiment tapote: Hi, I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany Hi $ qfile udevinfo $ sys-fs/udev (/usr/bin/udevinfo) Unfortunately this is not the case here. I believe /sbin/udevadm looks like a replacement, but I'm not sure. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
Helmut Jarausch schrieb: Hi, I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany udev has some problem with upgrading and loosing functions. I noticed this a while ago. But all udev function like udevinfo, udevmonitor are symlinks to udevadm. You can get all functionalities with udevadm info/monitor etc. http://www.portagefilelist.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
I alredy have a gentoo home server up and running with decent hardware (a FUJITSU SIEMENS Amilo M3438 laptop, Pentium M 1.86GHz, 1.5Gb ram) that I use for general purpose (backup, portage-rsync, bittorrent, groupware) and also for my wife's work (a joomla site, a ftp server, and a mailing list manager). The work my wife does as a researcher for the university is growing fast, her group relays in the ftp server for uploading important documents, and she also required me to set up a wiki. I now think it's time to set up something more hardened and to have a separated box for her work, to reduce the risk that I break things while trying experimental stuff, masked packeges ecc. It comes that they had from their mentor an old iBook G3 to see if it fits their needs. I will recive the machine tonight and start to work on it this weekend, so yet I don't know the amount of memory it has, but I know for sure it's expandible to 544Mb, and I will surely do the upgrade if needed. Here are my questions: - Is gentoo pcc stable enough to work on a server? - What kind of checks should I do to verify that the hardware (expecially the disk) is fine? - Is it possible to use the other server (x86) to build packages for the ppc? - Due to my limited space I'd like to mount some non-vital stuff on nfs shares. Is it aviceable to mount /usp/portage on nfs? or maybe just the distfiles? - What would you suggest for automatic daily backups? - I use gentoo as the only os on all my machines and it is the distro I fell confortable with, but is it really a good choiche in this case? Would a compiled distro better fit my needs? Thank yo in advance for your answers. pgpwCdsvgO2ER.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
Helmut Jarausch wrote on 23/10/08 12:29: I have a recent GenToo system (udev-130-r1) but I cannot find the utility 'udevinfo' Which package contains it? sys-fs/udev
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
On 23 Oct, Justin wrote: udev has some problem with upgrading and loosing functions. I noticed this a while ago. But all udev function like udevinfo, udevmonitor are symlinks to udevadm. You can get all functionalities with udevadm info/monitor etc. http://www.portagefilelist.de Many thanks to all of you who helped. (just a note: the symlinks are not installed automatically here) Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] udevinfo - where is it
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:03:10 +0200 (CEST) Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 23 Oct, Justin wrote: udev has some problem with upgrading and loosing functions. I noticed this a while ago. But all udev function like udevinfo, udevmonitor are symlinks to udevadm. You can get all functionalities with udevadm info/monitor etc. http://www.portagefilelist.de Many thanks to all of you who helped. (just a note: the symlinks are not installed automatically here) Helmut. Being curious and learning I didn't have the udevinfo symlink, I created it and ran it: # ( cd /sbin ; ln -s udevadm udevinfo ) # udevinfo the program '/bin/bash' called 'udevinfo', it should use 'udevadm info options', this will stop working in a future release missing option I understand this to mean that the symlinks are obsolete and are being deleted by newer ebuilds.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
On 23 Oct 2008, at 11:49, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... Here are my questions: - Is gentoo pcc stable enough to work on a server? I've played with Gentoo PPC pnly on the PS3, so am only a little more experienced than you. Oh! I think I did a base install on an iMac a couple of years back, but haven't touched it since. Anyway, for packages that are in Portage, it seems fine. - Due to my limited space I'd like to mount some non-vital stuff on nfs shares. Is it aviceable to mount /usp/portage on nfs? or maybe just the distfiles? I'm sure all of /usr/portage is fine. - I use gentoo as the only os on all my machines and it is the distro I fell confortable with, but is it really a good choiche in this case? Would a compiled distro better fit my needs? For me, the inconvenience of learning another distro outweighs any advantages it may have. I have a really nice TST ESR316 case here which I bought a couple of months ago and which I am now finally getting around to deploying; with a drive array of this size ZFS really makes sense, but I just know that - any other considerations aside - I'll end up just hating OpenSolaris' package manager and will generally be less productive. Your milage may of course vary. It occurs to me that - if you're being GIVEN this laptop, and the university are not expecting it back - you can probably get more for it on eBay than you'll pay for a replacement x86 lappie (even, say, a Thinkpad). I appreciate this might seem like a long way around the problem, but it might save you from some PPC inconvenience. One just knows _something_ will go wrong! Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:26:36PM -0500, deface wrote: I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com) or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is a very helpful resource. You can read the current status of the wiki as thrasher7 (Mike Valstar - mikevalstarREMOVEME@gmail.com) blogs it. Our options are stated, but we hope to find another through this e-mail. If anyone has any sort of contact with anyone at either of these locations, please let me or Mike know. The wiki can still be accessed via Google's cache. -- hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR
Re: [gentoo-user] gimp doc
On 22/10/2008, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two packages related to gimp doc: app-doc/gimp-user-manual-2.0 app-doc/gimp-help-2.4.2 Interestingly, USE=doc emerge gimp pulls in neither of these packages. I would have expected it to have required at least one of them. Should this be raised as a bug on the bugzilla? Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
deface wrote: I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com) or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is a very helpful resource. You can read the current status of the wiki as thrasher7 (Mike Valstar - mikevalstarREMOVEME@gmail.com) blogs it. Our options are stated, but we hope to find another through this e-mail. If anyone has any sort of contact with anyone at either of these locations, please let me or Mike know. Thanks in advance, deface The Gentoo-Wiki and Gentoo-Portage pages are unofficial, but it would be very nice if Gentoo was able to provide its own wiki service (and Gentoo-Portage-like thing, packages.gentoo.org is nowhere near as useful), possibly working with Mike on an official basis. I've always been curious why the Foundation is passing up a great opporitunity to have a lot of good, community based documentation especially for projects and setups that Gentoo itself does not provide documentation for, as well as an easy frontend for reading all about different ebuilds. I am unfortunately unable to help with this predicament though plan on putting in a donation once the sites are up. It does appear he was able to get in touch with TelX so hopefully everything gets up and running quickly. -Steve
[gentoo-user] root not allow to configuration fila
Hello everybody, I have nearly completed installation of gentoo ina with gnome-2.22 and then install gnome-system-tools can not use any of the tools because when I run for example users-admin I get an error saying that I do not have permission to access the configuration files even when I'm logged in as root. Any suggestions? これも通過する.. Eroz.
[gentoo-user] Smartd
Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
quoth the Momesso Andrea: Here are my questions: - Is gentoo pcc stable enough to work on a server? I used an old G4 for a server for a while. I think I used a hardened profile. The machine's specs were a little higher than yours I believe, but it wasnt a speed demon or anything 433Mhz I think. - What kind of checks should I do to verify that the hardware (expecially the disk) is fine? smartmontools? - Is it possible to use the other server (x86) to build packages for the ppc? Yes, see the cross-compile gentoo docs. - Due to my limited space I'd like to mount some non-vital stuff on nfs shares. Is it aviceable to mount /usp/portage on nfs? or maybe just the distfiles? I have both on NFS shares on my home network shared between 4 machines. Works great... - What would you suggest for automatic daily backups? Amanda, bacula? - I use gentoo as the only os on all my machines and it is the distro I fell confortable with, but is it really a good choiche in this case? Would a compiled distro better fit my needs? It would certainly make things easier. My G4 was a headless server but it still took a _very_ long time to build larger packages such as glibc etc. If you set up cross-compile it may help with this. Thank yo in advance for your answers. So: I did get PPC to work as a server, but it did have a few problems here and there. This was just for hosting my personal website/server so it wasn't a big deal. If your server is any sort of important you may want to look at finding an old x86 box. 2cents, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
Re: [gentoo-user] gimp doc
quoth the Dan Wallis: On 22/10/2008, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two packages related to gimp doc: app-doc/gimp-user-manual-2.0 app-doc/gimp-help-2.4.2 Interestingly, USE=doc emerge gimp pulls in neither of these packages. I would have expected it to have required at least one of them. Should this be raised as a bug on the bugzilla? I was under the understanding that 'doc' USE flag pulls in API/developer docs, not user docs. Could be wrong Dan -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
Re: [gentoo-user] xinerama USE-flag needed for KDE 4.1 and xrandr?
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 19:12:31 Fabian Köster, vous avez écrit : Hi everybody, I would like to setup a dual-head desktop using X.org 7.4 and KDE 4.1.2. I successfully achieved to configure my dual-head setup using xrandr. Basically it looks like this: xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of LVDS The VGA-0 screen's resolution is 1680x1050, the notebook-display is 1400x1050. As said before this works fine but KDE 4.1.2 treats the two screens as one single screen so the panel is centered in the middle of the overall-desktop and windows maximize over both screens. (See screenshot http://koesterreich.de/gentoo/screenshots/big-desktop.png) The desired behavior is that the panel is just on one screen (optionally more panels on the second) and the windows only maximize on the screen they are currently located. Do I have to compile KDE (and maybe other packages) using the 'xinerama' USE- flag? In that case I would say this is confusing because I think that xinerama is deprecated and I would suggest to rename it to something like multi-head. If it is of interest: I have a ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 and addressed by the 'radeon' driver. Regards, Fabian Yes you have to use the xinerama use flag. Regards, Paul Ezvan
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:49:27 +0200 Momesso Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I alredy have a gentoo home server up and running with decent hardware (a FUJITSU SIEMENS Amilo M3438 laptop, Pentium M 1.86GHz, 1.5Gb ram) that I use for general purpose (backup, portage-rsync, bittorrent, groupware) and also for my wife's work (a joomla site, a ftp server, and a mailing list manager). The work my wife does as a researcher for the university is growing fast, her group relays in the ftp server for uploading important documents, and she also required me to set up a wiki. I now think it's time to set up something more hardened and to have a separated box for her work, to reduce the risk that I break things while trying experimental stuff, masked packeges ecc. It comes that they had from their mentor an old iBook G3 to see if it fits their needs. I will recive the machine tonight and start to work on it this weekend, so yet I don't know the amount of memory it has, but I know for sure it's expandible to 544Mb, and I will surely do the upgrade if needed. Here are my questions: - Is gentoo pcc stable enough to work on a server? - What kind of checks should I do to verify that the hardware (expecially the disk) is fine? - Is it possible to use the other server (x86) to build packages for the ppc? - Due to my limited space I'd like to mount some non-vital stuff on nfs shares. Is it aviceable to mount /usp/portage on nfs? or maybe just the distfiles? - What would you suggest for automatic daily backups? - I use gentoo as the only os on all my machines and it is the distro I fell confortable with, but is it really a good choiche in this case? Would a compiled distro better fit my needs? Thank yo in advance for your answers. If you are round a university, I would actually suggest asking around and seeing if there are old P3 workstations being thrown out. With a little TLC, gentoo runs nicely on such hardware, especially as a headless server in a corner. Such a box would also offer a LOT more flexibility than an old laptop would, and they will probably be delighted to get rid of it! Rob. (Has a little collection of such rescued machines.) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:18:32AM -0600, darren kirby wrote: - Is it possible to use the other server (x86) to build packages for the ppc? Yes, see the cross-compile gentoo docs. I alredy have a problem with that, and alredy filled a bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243406 pgpiSKOtkbZXE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
[ 23.10.2008 17:14 ], Jon Hardcastle : Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? If this is a server, why don't you turn auto-sleep off ? Or maybe you can check out -n option in manual -- Rafał (ert16) Trójniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key-ID : DD681D47 749F E1DC A58F 9084 BBC0 797A 0691 53D6 DD68 1D47 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} An old iBook G3 as server
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Robert Bridge wrote: If you are round a university, I would actually suggest asking around and seeing if there are old P3 workstations being thrown out. With a little TLC, gentoo runs nicely on such hardware, especially as a headless server in a corner. Such a box would also offer a LOT more flexibility than an old laptop would, and they will probably be delighted to get rid of it! Rob. (Has a little collection of such rescued machines.) The reason why I prefer a laptop is size (I can put it on the top of a cupboard next to the other one), and the possibility to use it without an UPS, that I don't have. pgpIqegBZbUiY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
On Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' --- I am not sure what your problem really is - but why don't you exclude the drivers in /etc/conf.d/smartd?
Re: [gentoo-user] AbiWord 2.6.4 build failure
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Fabrice Delliaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please try again with the following new patch (replace the older one with it) : Worked like a charm. Please see the relevant bug report [1]. Liviu [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243448
[gentoo-user] Re: python-updater broken
Arttu V. arttuv69 at gmail.com writes: run python-updater with several -v options? Here's what I get: Starting Python Updater from 2.4 to 2.5 : check soname enabled. check pylibdir enabled. check eclass disabled. check manual enabled. then it hangs - Maybe the disks or filesystems have some problems or bit-rot after having possibly been powered on 24/7 for a long time? Has there been power outages? Voluntary fsck time! It's on a high quality UPS. The Hard drive may have problems, but, I see no evidence of this. All else compiles and it runs fine, for long periods of time with no problems. The HD is less than 13% full - Has something happened to your scanelf? emerge -1 pax-utils I did the 'emerge -1 pax-utils' and when I launch python-updater scanelf runs fine as I watch it via top. When python-updater actually starts up, that's when the load goes to 3 or 4 and it just sleeps (as seen in top). - I'd guess eselect python complaining like above is probably just normal, unless you're supposed to have eselect-python package installed (many systems probably don't and you say your system is sort of minimal anyway?) Correct, eselect-python is not installed, so it should not run. I saw this in a bugs.gentoo.org thread and thought it might help. I do not think I even need this? (no python whiz here). - Does anything unusual appear in /var/log/messages or other logs? nope, just cron and syslog messages. Nothing out of the ordinary
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crashes
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:48:47AM -0400, Simon wrote: Hi, recently (dunno why or when exactly) firefox has started crashing when loading certain pages. Two pages I'm used to access often that are causing the problem are my banking site (once logged in) and linode.com/members... the error is a bit cryptic and may involve javascript (see the error below). I tried recompiling firefox, but got the exact same result... so I tried a `emerge -e mozilla-firefox`, (which btw, on the cheapest linode took a bit more than 3 hours). So, the host basically compilled the binpkgs and i installed them on my desktop, same issue happened after... Here's the use flags for ff, also all files related to portage config (make.conf,etc) are exactly the same on all my machines, only world is different. What does 'emerge --info' say? Does mozilla-firefox-bin work? CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :113.31): Unknown property '-khtml-border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. Those are only CSS errors, no problem -Erik -- hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crashes
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:48:47AM -0400, Simon wrote: Hi, recently (dunno why or when exactly) firefox has started crashing when loading certain pages. Two pages I'm used to access often that are causing the problem are my banking site (once logged in) and linode.com/members... the error is a bit cryptic and may involve javascript (see the error below). I tried recompiling firefox, but got the exact same result... so I tried a `emerge -e mozilla-firefox`, (which btw, on the cheapest linode took a bit more than 3 hours). So, the host basically compilled the binpkgs and i installed them on my desktop, same issue happened after... Here's the use flags for ff, also all files related to portage config (make.conf,etc) are exactly the same on all my machines, only world is different. Possibly this is the problem many people are having related to librsvg[1]. Try downgrading that package. 1. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239992 -a
[gentoo-user] firefox crashes
Hi, recently (dunno why or when exactly) firefox has started crashing when loading certain pages. Two pages I'm used to access often that are causing the problem are my banking site (once logged in) and linode.com/members... the error is a bit cryptic and may involve javascript (see the error below). I tried recompiling firefox, but got the exact same result... so I tried a `emerge -e mozilla-firefox`, (which btw, on the cheapest linode took a bit more than 3 hours). So, the host basically compilled the binpkgs and i installed them on my desktop, same issue happened after... Here's the use flags for ff, also all files related to portage config (make.conf,etc) are exactly the same on all my machines, only world is different. [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.17 USE=bindist debug ipv6 java xinerama -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xprint LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Folks that deal with firefox really frown upon gentoo and tend to stop supporting me because of that (saying gentoo is mostly a broken distribution, probably just because it's easy for newbies to break things, deps, etc). Now that I have recompiled everything properly maybe they'll help me out, but I thought maybe you guys here could help also? Here's the full output of ff when doing: `firefox linode.com/members`: No running windows found Type Manifest File: /home/simon/.mozilla/firefox/6n98gvbk.default/xpti.dat *** Registering Apprunner components (all right -- a generic module!) nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering begins. nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering succeeded nsNativeComponentLoader: registering deferred (0) pldhash: for the table at address 0x80cae30, the given entrySize of 44 probably favors chaining over double hashing. WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsChromeRegistry.cpp, line 1272 GFX: dpi=126 t2p=0.0909091 p2t=11 depth=24 ++WEBSHELL == 1 ++DOMWINDOW == 1 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 ++DOMWINDOW == 2 ++WEBSHELL == 2 ++DOMWINDOW == 3 ++DOMWINDOW == 4 Note: styleverifytree is disabled Note: frameverifytree is disabled Note: verifyreflow is disabled pldhash: for the table at address 0x8789f20, the given entrySize of 68 definitely favors chaining over double hashing. ++WEBSHELL == 3 ++DOMWINDOW == 5 ++DOMWINDOW == 6 ### ### mDiskDevice-Init() failed (0x8000) ###- disabling disk cache for this session. ### *** e = [Exception... ServiceManager::GetService returned failure code: nsresult: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) location: JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/utilityOverlay.js :: getShellService :: line 294 data: no] WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)) failed, file nsStringBundle.cpp, line 273 ++DOMWINDOW == 7 --DOMWINDOW == 6 CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :113.31): Unknown property '-khtml-border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :114.32): Unknown property '-webkit-border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :115.24): Unknown property 'border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :117.32): Unknown property '-khtml-border-top-right-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :118.33): Unknown property '-webkit-border-top-right-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :119.25): Unknown property 'border-top-right-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :129.31): Unknown property '-khtml-border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :130.32): Unknown property '-webkit-border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :131.24): Unknown property 'border-top-left-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :133.32): Unknown property '-khtml-border-top-right-radius'. Declaration dropped. CSS Error (http://www.linode.com/linode.css?2 :134.33): Unknown property
[gentoo-user] Nagios 3.0.4 Ebuild
Hi where can i get Nagios Ebuild 3.0.4 for Gentoo OS Thanks and Regards Kaushal
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: xinerama USE-flag needed for KDE 4.1 and xrandr?
Yes you have to use the xinerama use flag. That works in deed, I have now KDE 4.1 Desktop with Multi-Monitor Support! Thank you, Paul! Regards, Fabian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Nagios 3.0.4 Ebuild
On Thursday 23 October 2008 21:25:47 Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Hi where can i get Nagios Ebuild 3.0.4 for Gentoo OS In the usual place where such things are kept. I suspect you are new to gentoo. Did you run the usual 'emerge -av nagios' and if so, what was the result? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] No more... more?
The other day I was updating a fairly ancient system by trying to first clear out some emerge blockers. I've taken care of the blockers, but now I find that my system no longer has a more command: # more bash: more: command not found I also notice that sys-apps/more is masked: * sys-apps/more [ Masked ] Latest version available: 2.12r Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 1,338 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Description: Primitive text file viewer License: GPL-2 Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. -- Mike Diehl
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
Mike Diehl wrote: The other day I was updating a fairly ancient system by trying to first clear out some emerge blockers. I've taken care of the blockers, but now I find that my system no longer has a more command: # more bash: more: command not found I also notice that sys-apps/more is masked: * sys-apps/more [ Masked ] Latest version available: 2.12r Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 1,338 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Description: Primitive text file viewer License: GPL-2 Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. You didn't happen to unmerge coreutils did you because it was blocking? If so that is the cause of your problems. I'm not sure how to recovery from a lack of coreutils since most of your system binaries are now gone. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Mike Diehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day I was updating a fairly ancient system by trying to first clear out some emerge blockers. I've taken care of the blockers, but now I find that my system no longer has a more command: # more bash: more: command not found I also notice that sys-apps/more is masked: * sys-apps/more [ Masked ] Latest version available: 2.12r Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 1,338 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Description: Primitive text file viewer License: GPL-2 Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. -- Mike Diehl You probably will get more by reemerging this package: sys-apps/util-linux emerge -1 util-linux At least there is the package that currently provides more on my system. Either way, I'd recommend what the more man page recommends: use less. Direct quote from my more man page: More is a filter for paging through text one screenful at a time. This version is especially primitive. Users should realize that less(1) provides more(1) emulation and extensive enhancements.
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thursday 23 October 2008, 22:22, Mike Diehl wrote: The other day I was updating a fairly ancient system by trying to first clear out some emerge blockers. I've taken care of the blockers, but now I find that my system no longer has a more command: # more bash: more: command not found I also notice that sys-apps/more is masked: * sys-apps/more [ Masked ] Latest version available: 2.12r Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 1,338 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Description: Primitive text file viewer License: GPL-2 Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. $ qfile /bin/more sys-apps/util-linux (/bin/more) Did you by chance unmerge util-linux? Try re-emerging it.
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2008 22:22:05 schrieb Mike Diehl: Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. In addition to what others wrote: less is more ;-). Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] gimp doc
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:21:20 -0600, darren kirby wrote: I was under the understanding that 'doc' USE flag pulls in API/developer docs, not user docs. Could be wrong That's usually the case, but not always. -- Neil Bothwick Hyperbole is absolutely the worst mistake you can possibly make signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Nagios 3.0.4 Ebuild
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:32:43 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: where can i get Nagios Ebuild 3.0.4 for Gentoo OS In the usual place where such things are kept. I suspect you are new to gentoo. Did you run the usual 'emerge -av nagios' and if so, what was the result? Or it could be that he is running stable, 3.0.4 ~arch. -- Neil Bothwick Ethernet (n): something used to catch the etherbunny signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:31:16 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: In addition to what others wrote: less is more ;-). less is not more, less is more than more, but less is less than most :P -- Neil Bothwick Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thursday 23 October 2008 22:31:16 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2008 22:22:05 schrieb Mike Diehl: Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. In addition to what others wrote: less is more ;-). Pah! You old-fashioned fogeys. Wake up and come into the 21st century: most it's more more than less (Seriously. sys-apps/most. And while you're at it, emerge sys-apps/dog. It's better than cat) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] asterisk hardware recommendations?
Anyone have a success story with asterisk to voip phones? I'd like to start with a hardware recommendation for the T1 interface card and or CSU/DSU, if anyone can share. Is Digium, FEX the best way to go? TIA for any help or FMs to RT. '-) -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2008 22:38:21 schrieb Alan McKinnon: (Seriously. sys-apps/most. And while you're at it, emerge sys-apps/dog. It's better than cat) Sure it is! Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] asterisk hardware recommendations?
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 22:51:52 Michael Higgins, vous avez écrit : Anyone have a success story with asterisk to voip phones? I'd like to start with a hardware recommendation for the T1 interface card and or CSU/DSU, if anyone can share. Is Digium, FEX the best way to go? TIA for any help or FMs to RT. '-) Hello, You should take a look at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ and downland the asterisk bible if you do not have done it yet. I have only used an old Cisco 12 sp+ phones with asterisk. Regards, Paul. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] lazy mouse
Hi! Changing a mouse (to Genius Traveler 315 Laser) resulted in the problem: almost always after booting the mouse is not active (say, at level 3 wheel rolling shows a mouse cursor, but movement doesn't work, as well as in X). Hot replugging to (any) USB port cures the problem for current session. The world isn't perfect... Thoughts?
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thursday 23 October 2008 02:32:02 pm Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2008, 22:22, Mike Diehl wrote: The other day I was updating a fairly ancient system by trying to first clear out some emerge blockers. I've taken care of the blockers, but now I find that my system no longer has a more command: # more bash: more: command not found I also notice that sys-apps/more is masked: * sys-apps/more [ Masked ] Latest version available: 2.12r Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 1,338 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/ Description: Primitive text file viewer License: GPL-2 Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. $ qfile /bin/more sys-apps/util-linux (/bin/more) Did you by chance unmerge util-linux? Try re-emerging it. Man, I don't remember unmerging util-linux, but it was late... Anyway, that fixed it. Thank you. -- Mike Diehl
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On Thursday 23 October 2008 02:31:16 pm Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2008 22:22:05 schrieb Mike Diehl: Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. In addition to what others wrote: less is more ;-). This is true... more or less. grin -- Mike Diehl
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
kashani wrote: You didn't happen to unmerge coreutils did you because it was blocking? If so that is the cause of your problems. I'm not sure how to recovery from a lack of coreutils since most of your system binaries are now gone. kashani Oh good it wasn't coreutil. Watch out for that one if you run into it though that problem might be older than your machine. Remove mktemp and then emerge coretuils and you should be fine. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] lazy mouse
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Changing a mouse (to Genius Traveler 315 Laser) resulted in the problem: almost always after booting the mouse is not active (say, at level 3 wheel rolling shows a mouse cursor, but movement doesn't work, as well as in X). Hot replugging to (any) USB port cures the problem for current session. The world isn't perfect... Thoughts? Are the required modules for USB set to auto-load at boot time? (maybe udev is loading them when you plug it afterwards)
[gentoo-user] Announce: red5 overlay available for testing
Hi folks, YFYI, I've written a bunch of ebuilds for red5 and its deps: svn://anonymous:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/public/red5/gentoo-overlay cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ -
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crashes
`emerge --info` at the bottom of my reply I emerged mozilla-firefox-bin (strangely it didn't unmerge mozilla-firefox... it was a New ebuild). Interestingly, it did work... It gave no debug info so i couldn't compare the output... I believe I'll have no problem in switching over to the bin version, but the error with the ebuild is still strange... The CSS errors are more like debug warnings (note it was compiled with debug flag) they have nothing (i believe) to do with the issue. The ***Exception before those errors give more info and some of the last lines also are relevant. Portage 2.1.4.5 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.24 i686) = System uname: 2.6.24 i686 Pentium III (Katmai) Timestamp of tree: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:37:02 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] ccache version 2.4 [disabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.6 dev-lang/python: 2.5.2-r7 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r2 sys-devel/automake: 1.5, 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-Os -march=i386 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ex t-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-Os -march=i386 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=buildpkg distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.arcticnetwork.ca/source/; MAKEOPTS=-j8 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/mnt/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=3dnow 3dnowext X aac aalib acl alsa amrnb amrwb arts background berkdb bidi bindist bl cddb cdio cdparanoia cli cpudetection cr acklib crypt cups customcflags debug dga dri dts dv dvb dvd enca encode esd fbcon fortran gdbm ggi gif gnutls gpm gtk iconv injectio n ipv6 isdnlog jack joystick jpeg ladspa libcaca lirc live lzo md5sum midi mmxext mp2 mp3 mudflap musepack nas ncurses nemesi nls np tl nptlonly openal opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl png pnm pppd pulseaudio python quicktime radio rar readline real reflection r tc samba sdl session speex spl srt sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg svga tcpd teletext tga tiff unicode v4l v4l2 vidix win32codecs x264 x86 xa nim xgetdefault xinerama xml xmlreader xmlrpc xmlwriter xorg xvid xvmc zlib zoran ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem b t87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via8 2xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lf loat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alia s authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_ cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVIC ES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAN D=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=apm ark chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i740 i810 imstt mach64 mga neomagic nsc nv r128 radeon rendit ion s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMP RESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Erik Hahn wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:48:47AM -0400, Simon wrote: Hi, recently (dunno why or when exactly) firefox has started crashing when loading certain pages. Two pages I'm used to access often that are causing the problem are my banking site (once logged in) and linode.com/members... the error is a bit cryptic and may involve javascript (see the error below). I tried recompiling firefox, but got the exact same result... so I tried a `emerge -e mozilla-firefox`, (which btw, on the cheapest linode took a bit more than 3 hours). So, the host
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crashes
Good try Albert, however I already had version 2.22.2 (which is how to solve the issue)... Thanks, Simon Albert Hopkins wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:48:47AM -0400, Simon wrote: Hi, recently (dunno why or when exactly) firefox has started crashing when loading certain pages. Two pages I'm used to access often that are causing the problem are my banking site (once logged in) and linode.com/members... the error is a bit cryptic and may involve javascript (see the error below). I tried recompiling firefox, but got the exact same result... so I tried a `emerge -e mozilla-firefox`, (which btw, on the cheapest linode took a bit more than 3 hours). So, the host basically compilled the binpkgs and i installed them on my desktop, same issue happened after... Here's the use flags for ff, also all files related to portage config (make.conf,etc) are exactly the same on all my machines, only world is different. Possibly this is the problem many people are having related to librsvg[1]. Try downgrading that package. 1. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239992 -a
Re: [gentoo-user] No more... more?
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:31, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2008 22:22:05 schrieb Mike Diehl: Surely this isn't what I'm supposed to install just to get more. Please advise. In addition to what others wrote: less is more ;-). And most isn't. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
I would second all of this I use gentoo-wiki almost everyday and it is killing me that it isnt up. I think this would be a great service if we can give it to the community. -- W. Nick Pappin IT Staff Latah Federal Credit Union 208.874.4394 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deface wrote: I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com) or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is a very helpful resource. You can read the current status of the wiki as thrasher7 (Mike Valstar - mikevalstarREMOVEME@gmail.com) blogs it. Our options are stated, but we hope to find another through this e-mail. If anyone has any sort of contact with anyone at either of these locations, please let me or Mike know. Thanks in advance, deface The Gentoo-Wiki and Gentoo-Portage pages are unofficial, but it would be very nice if Gentoo was able to provide its own wiki service (and Gentoo-Portage-like thing, packages.gentoo.org is nowhere near as useful), possibly working with Mike on an official basis. I've always been curious why the Foundation is passing up a great opporitunity to have a lot of good, community based documentation especially for projects and setups that Gentoo itself does not provide documentation for, as well as an easy frontend for reading all about different ebuilds. I am unfortunately unable to help with this predicament though plan on putting in a donation once the sites are up. It does appear he was able to get in touch with TelX so hopefully everything gets up and running quickly. -Steve
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com deface Nick Pappin wrote: I would second all of this I use gentoo-wiki almost everyday and it is killing me that it isnt up. I think this would be a great service if we can give it to the community. -- W. Nick Pappin IT Staff Latah Federal Credit Union 208.874.4394 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deface wrote: I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com) or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is a very helpful resource. You can read the current status of the wiki as thrasher7 (Mike Valstar - mikevalstarREMOVEME@gmail.com) blogs it. Our options are stated, but we hope to find another through this e-mail. If anyone has any sort of contact with anyone at either of these locations, please let me or Mike know. Thanks in advance, deface The Gentoo-Wiki and Gentoo-Portage pages are unofficial, but it would be very nice if Gentoo was able to provide its own wiki service (and Gentoo-Portage-like thing, packages.gentoo.org is nowhere near as useful), possibly working with Mike on an official basis. I've always been curious why the Foundation is passing up a great opporitunity to have a lot of good, community based documentation especially for projects and setups that Gentoo itself does not provide documentation for, as well as an easy frontend for reading all about different ebuilds. I am unfortunately unable to help with this predicament though plan on putting in a donation once the sites are up. It does appear he was able to get in touch with TelX so hopefully everything gets up and running quickly. -Steve
