[gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Grant wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? - Grant Netbooks are designed to be underpowered, and as such, compiling on them is bit nuts. However, you could compile on a faster machine and export this binary to the netbook, I've done something similar when updating an old first generation iMac.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 22:40:54 Michael Higgins wrote: Don't know the proper term, but I want to stop version updates for a while, yet allow package-rN updates... This doesn't seem to be a built-in feature of portage after a quick scan of the man pages. But I can think of a method to do it the long way round: The atom syntax you want is package~ which means any -rN version (including -r0) of the base version. You could grab a complete list of your system and world (emerge -et), mangle it into shape with grep, sed and awk and redirect the whole lot to a package.mask file in a format something like this: app-1.1.0~ I spent most of the last couple of days killing two bugs that were a serious drag on my laptop, involving kacpid hogging the CPU on a resume, or bay swap, and gnome panel freezing on 7 open windows (a real deal killer). I'd like to spend a few months just using it now that it all works... So with the latest kernel in the tree unmasked (kacpid bug fix) and a couple of patches and ebuilds in my overlay for a pair of unmasked x11 and gnome packages, what is the method to keep this 'world' in a 'set' and 'forgotten' state? '-) Cheers, -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 March 2009 22:40:54 Michael Higgins wrote: Don't know the proper term, but I want to stop version updates for a while, yet allow package-rN updates... This doesn't seem to be a built-in feature of portage after a quick scan of the man pages. But I can think of a method to do it the long way round: The atom syntax you want is package~ which means any -rN version (including -r0) of the base version. You could grab a complete list of your system and world (emerge -et), mangle it into shape with grep, sed and awk and redirect the whole lot to a package.mask file in a format something like this: app-1.1.0~ I spent most of the last couple of days killing two bugs that were a serious drag on my laptop, involving kacpid hogging the CPU on a resume, or bay swap, and gnome panel freezing on 7 open windows (a real deal killer). I'd like to spend a few months just using it now that it all works... So with the latest kernel in the tree unmasked (kacpid bug fix) and a couple of patches and ebuilds in my overlay for a pair of unmasked x11 and gnome packages, what is the method to keep this 'world' in a 'set' and 'forgotten' state? '-) Cheers, Could he just not sync and call it a day? I suspect this is going to bite him one day tho. We know Gentoo likes to be updated fairly regular. I been around Gentoo for years and I don't think I would want to do this. I'm not sure how much experience the OP has tho. I do understand that getting something stable and working then wanting to keep it that way. I'm just wondering what his mileage may be in the long run. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thursday 12 March 2009 10:07:03 Dale wrote: Could he just not sync and call it a day? I suspect this is going to bite him one day tho. We know Gentoo likes to be updated fairly regular. I been around Gentoo for years and I don't think I would want to do this. I'm not sure how much experience the OP has tho. Michael's been around a while, his name is familiar. He did say he wants -rN updates so I take that to mean he wants bug fixes and security updates but everything else to stay that same and especially no potential ABI/API changes Not an unreasonable thing actually - it's what you get with RedHat or any decent enterprise distro I do understand that getting something stable and working then wanting to keep it that way. I'm just wondering what his mileage may be in the long run. I can only imagine what will happen if he forgets that package.mask and then removes it six months later:-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 12 March 2009 10:07:03 Dale wrote: Could he just not sync and call it a day? I suspect this is going to bite him one day tho. We know Gentoo likes to be updated fairly regular. I been around Gentoo for years and I don't think I would want to do this. I'm not sure how much experience the OP has tho. Michael's been around a while, his name is familiar. He did say he wants -rN updates so I take that to mean he wants bug fixes and security updates but everything else to stay that same and especially no potential ABI/API changes Not an unreasonable thing actually - it's what you get with RedHat or any decent enterprise distro I do understand that getting something stable and working then wanting to keep it that way. I'm just wondering what his mileage may be in the long run. I can only imagine what will happen if he forgets that package.mask and then removes it six months later:-) Since he has been around a while and knows what he wants, then I guess he knows the possible pitfalls too. I just wanted to mention it in case he doesn't know that not updating can lead to issues later on. Didn't I post on a thread recently about a system not being updated in a long while and a reinstall was better than updating? It's one of those things that worries me. I must confess that I do the same with my kernel. When I get one that works, I just don't want to update. I download them and build a new one but just don't boot them. Of course this is another reason why too: r...@smoker / # uptime 03:23:09 up 60 days, 11:10, 3 users, load average: 1.16, 1.33, 1.37 r...@smoker / # I go for a while without rebooting and forget the new kernel is there. Yea, if something happens to the package.mask file, he's in for a surprise for sure. OP, you may also want to make package.mask a directory and then you can sort out your files easier too. Just something to think about. I think that is a new feature. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:45:16 -0700, Grant wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? I'm writing this on an Eee PC900 running Gentoo and it's fine apart from occasional annoying pauses when Konqueror goes to sleep for a couple of seconds while loading pages. That could be down it writing its caches to an encrypted home partition. If anything, it's faster than I expected from the spec. -- Neil Bothwick A Smith Weason beats Four Aces everytime. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:56:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The atom syntax you want is package~ which means any -rN version
(including -r0) of the base version.
I've only even seen the ~ used at the start of an atom, I didn't know it
could be used at the end too.
You could grab a complete list of your system and world (emerge -et),
mangle it into shape with grep, sed and awk and redirect the whole lot
to a package.mask file in a format something like this:
app-1.1.0~
emerge portage-utils
qatom $(qlist -ICv) | awk '{print $1/$2-$3~}'
--
Neil Bothwick
I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:13:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could he just not sync and call it a day? I suspect this is going to bite him one day tho. We know Gentoo likes to be updated fairly regular. I been around Gentoo for years and I don't think I would want to do this. I'm not sure how much experience the OP has tho. Michael's been around a while, his name is familiar. He did say he wants -rN updates so I take that to mean he wants bug fixes and security updates but everything else to stay that same and especially no potential ABI/API changes One potential problem is ebuilds disappearing from the portage tree as packages are updated, so it would be worth copying everything he uses (or the whole tree) into an overlay. -- Neil Bothwick It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?
Hi, I'm using Clonezilla for my system backups, it's very easy to use and restoring the backups actually works (that's normally the tricky part, not copying everything to another medium) :-) If it's just for data, I'm making a daily backup on a flash disk using rsync and from time to time a backup on an external hdd drive using again rsync. If you tar it up, you can't store the differences only anymore, so you have to decide first what you want. Oh and if you're using a ram-dvd you can access the dvd as if it were a flash medium and just rsync/tar/... to it :-) Geralt.
Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:39:01 +0100, Geralt wrote: If it's just for data, I'm making a daily backup on a flash disk using rsync and from time to time a backup on an external hdd drive using again rsync. If you tar it up, you can't store the differences only anymore, so you have to decide first what you want. You can store differences within files, but tar is quite capable of making incremental backups. -- Neil Bothwick Celery is not food. It is a member of the plywood family. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thursday 12 March 2009 11:48:48 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:56:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The atom syntax you want is package~ which means any -rN version (including -r0) of the base version. I've only even seen the ~ used at the start of an atom, I didn't know it could be used at the end too. sigh and we both know what assume stands for, right? You must be English. Only an Englishman could point out a blunder like that in such a subtle way as to make the other guy cringe with embarrassment... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Bash and ACPI issue - laptop lid
* Saphirus Sage (saphirus...@gmail.com) [12.03.09 00:53]: I've been trying to setup my laptop to enter ACPI S3 (suspend to ram) when I close the lid. I currently have the scripts setup as such: /etc/acpi/events/lid event=button[ /]lid.* action=/etc/acpi/actions/lid.sh Looks normal. /etc/acpi/actions/lid.sh #!/bin/bash Maybe a sleep 1 will help with your issue (or more secs...) for i in $(cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state | grep -o closed); do ^^^ This only has elements when the lid is closed, so the do block will only be exexuted, if the lid is closed. if [ $i = closed ]; then ^^ Therefor this is totally pointless, because we only come to this point if the lid is closed and thus $i is always == closed /usr/sbin/pm-suspend fi if [ $i != closed ]; then sleep 5 fi This whole block will never ever be reached, so you can easily erase it. done The issue I've run into is that this will cause my laptop to suspend to the RAM upon any change in the lid state, irregardless of if it is open or closed. I tried to be more specific by utilizing the suffix of the event, but it's incremental, which is a bit beyond my abilities. Any suggestions to make this suspend only when the lid is closed? You should test if your Desktop Environment does the suspending for you. Then you have to tweak there, to get the behaviour you want. HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpJB2EZXHSAu.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge amazonmp3 fails
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 18:41:58 Willie Wong wrote: For future reference, it'd be nice if you trimmed the build log a little bit. Sorry. Duly noted In any case, you are running K8, and on B.G.O. there are some suggestions that the stable version of boost does not play well with newer versions of GCC on 64bit systems. A suggested workaround is to unmask =boost 1.36 and install that. Hrm, I'll check that out.
[gentoo-user] emerge Error
All, After sync'ing yesterday and getting a whole bunch of packages evince had problems and gnome never got installed. Today after sync'ing I get the following which doesn't make sense to me. Can someone help. # emerge -uDNp world !!! CONFIG_PROTECT is empty These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =app-text/poppler-bindings-0.8[gtk,cairo]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 (Change USE: +cairo) (dependency required by app-text/evince-2.24.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-2.24.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by world [argument]) Thanks, Dave
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge Error
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 04:45, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? I have an EEE 701 that run Gentoo, with XFCE4 and Compiz Fusion, and I think its really fast considering its size. No slowdowns at all, of course it has 2GB of RAM, while the default is 512MB. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? - Grant Yeah, Gentoo can be a big O/S if you let it. I recently installed Gentoo on an eee 701 with 512M RAM and the 8 GB SSD. I decided to use the minimal USE flag with a few exceptions. This keeps the size of X11 down and affects a few other packages in that vein. Also, I used XFCE in place of Gnome. You can still have Gnome apps on it (if you are willing to commit the extra disk space) and the memory foot print is much smaller. I used ccache to help out with compile times, so even on the 500MHz processor, it still took less than a day to slap X11 together. Have a specific idea in mind for what you want the computer to be used for. My eee does three or four things really well and that's it. Some may say it's archaic, but I thought it was a great learning experience. That said, installing Gentoo on an eee 701 was such an incredible pain in the ass... Not for the faint of heart. D
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge Error
Justin wrote: dhk schrieb: - app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 (Change USE: +cairo) This line tells you what to do: reemerge poppler-bindings with USE=cairo That worked, Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Grant schrieb:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
Sound about right?
- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Grant schrieb:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
9. use distcc
Sound about right?
- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote:
Grant schrieb:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
9. use distcc
Won't that require another machine using the same CPU arch? Or can
cross-compiler be setup on the remote distcc box? (I don't even know
if GCC has an atom-specific CPU or if it is using something more
generic)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:30:13 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more performance and wear down the SSD. No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles. SSDs have more sophisticated wear-levelling than flash memory cards or sticks so this isn't such an issue. Having said that, I do have $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on an SDcard. -- Neil Bothwick After two weeks of dieting, all I lost was two weeks. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Paul Hartman schrieb:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote:
Grant schrieb:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like
metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
9. use distcc
Won't that require another machine using the same CPU arch? Or can
cross-compiler be setup on the remote distcc box?
I am using it cross x86 and amd64,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml
(I don't even know
if GCC has an atom-specific CPU or if it is using something more
generic)
CFLAGS=-march=prescott -mssse3
nearly same as core2 in 32bit mode
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:52:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I've only even seen the ~ used at the start of an atom, I didn't know it could be used at the end too. You must be English. Only an Englishman could point out a blunder like that in such a subtle way as to make the other guy cringe with embarrassment... LOL! Actually, I checked the portage man page and when I saw no reference to it there, I assumed it was a new feature you had discovered that hadn't made it to the man page. It didn't occur to me that when putting the tilde at the wrong end, you were talking out of the wrong end :) -- Neil Bothwick LISP: To call a spade a thpade. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
Which of these still apply when using a conventional HD instead of a
SSD in the netbook?
- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it is
the one with the 8GB SSD.
I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it.
Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the time.
The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD
card slots but I haven't invested much time into it.
The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things done
when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of
Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up).
The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled
most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the speed)
before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. Its
usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For
larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I
don't want to wear down the SSD.
Other tips:
Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more
performance and wear down the SSD.
I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system
when it decides to flush its write cache.
No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycles.
Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=noop). There is no
need for a scheduler on an SSD.
ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option DRI 0' in
xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory.
Hope this helps.
Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this
thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got
this:
1. run xfce4 (already do)
2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2)
3. use ext2 (I was using ext3)
4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed)
5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?)
6. use elevator=noop at boot
7. deactivate DRI
8. upgrade RAM to the max
Which of these still apply when using a conventional HD instead of a
SSD in the netbook?
This is all just my opinion and not backed by scientific method... I
would use a journaling file system no matter what, just to recover
from crashes/dead batteries better... I'm not sure the journaling
would have a significant negative impact on the SSD life (certainly
not as much as, say, running Gentoo on it in the first place).
Otherwise, I think normal laptop performance tuning guidelines would
apply... Do whatever you can to reduce disk access. On my laptop I
disabled swap, set the hdd to power off after X minutes of idle,
disable disk cache in web browsers, use /dev/shm for portate tmpdir,
disable cron and hald disk polling and slocate and all the other
things that run in the background on their own and cause the disks to
wake up. And cpu frequency scaling of course.
With all of that I'm able to get a whopping 75 or 80 minutes battery
life out of my Acer laptop. Compared to about 30 minutes when it's
running full steam ahead. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Thursday 12 March 2009 21:43:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: It didn't occur to me that when putting the tilde at the wrong end, you were talking out of the wrong end :) I seem to be doing that a lot lately. You should have seen Tuesdays' blunder: mysql UPDATE passwds set passwd=a_hash, status=NEW, updated=1236889084; Rows matched: 4329 Changed: 4329 Warnings: 0 Hang on, that doesn't look right. sigh there's no WHERE I hope there's a backup... What's in crontab -l? Lucky for me, some OTHER bright spark had mysqldump in a daily cron! -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection
I travel with a strong external antenna for picking up faint wireless signals. It works great, but my girlfriend struggles to connect with her built-in antenna. I do have a travel router (D-Link DWL-G730) so I'd like to be able to do something like this: WAN-my laptop-travel router-girlfriend's laptop I use wicd and I'm not sure how to go about this, especially since my laptop DHCPs for an IP from the WAN so I'm not sure how to define the gateway for the travel router when following this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml Is there a simple way to pull this off? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
on 03/12/2009 09:45 AM Grant wrote the following:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
Here is my setup so far:
Aspire one A110L, MMCs are Transcend’s 8GB Class 6 SDHC (SD
High-Capacity) Lifetime Warranty :-)
# uname -a
Linux atom 2.6.28-gentoo-r3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 8 16:00:20 EET 2009
i686 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
# cat /etc/fstab
LABEL=GENTOOROOT/ext2noatime0 1
LABEL=SYSTEM/mnt/SYSTEMext2noatime0 2
LABEL=ARXEIO/mnt/ARXEIOext2noatime0 2
LABEL=SWAPnoneswapsw0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/var /varnone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/tmp/tmpnone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/home/homenone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/portage/usr/portagenone rbind 0 0
shm/dev/shm tmpfssize=20M,nodev,nosuid,noexec0 0
# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 8069 MB, 8069677056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 981 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x6aa76660
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 981 7879851 83 Linux
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8017 MB, 8017412096 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 244672 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x65221dec
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 1 32769 1048600 82 Linux swap
/ Solaris
/dev/mmcblk0p2 32770 244672 6780896 83 Linux
Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 8017 MB, 8017412096 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 244672 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xea7e7be7
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk1p1 1 244672 7829496 83 Linux
# cat /etc/make.conf |grep -v \# |cat -s
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
VIDEO_CARDS=intel
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard synaptics mouse
ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
MAKEOPTS=-j2
LINGUAS=en el
FEATURES=buildpkg parallel-fetch userfetch metadata-transfer
AUTOCLEAN=yes
PORTAGE_NICENESS=18
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}
PORTDIR=/usr/portage/
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/tmp/portage/
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp/
PORTAGE_TMPFS=/dev/shm
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
DISTDIR=/usr/distfiles/
PKGDIR=/usr/packages/
DISTCC_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/.distcc/
CCACHE_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/ccache/
GENTOO_MIRRORS=...
SYNC=...
USE=acpi alsa ao avahi bash-completion cairo cscope cups dbus dri
encode ffmpeg gif gimp gmp gnome gnome-keyring gstreamer gtk gtkhtml hal
java java6 javascript jpeg jpeg2k lm_sensors lzo mad mbox mikmod mmx
mpeg msn networkmanager nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ogg opengl oss php
png ppds samba scanner sdl sndfile sse sse2 truetype unicode usb
vim-syntax vorbis wifi wavpack win32codecs X xinetd xft xulrunner xv
xvid zeroconf
I' m running gnome, firefox, thunderbird, etc, and have compiled even
openoffice on it without a problem. :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:26:45 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I travel with a strong external antenna for picking up faint wireless signals. It works great, but my girlfriend struggles to connect with her built-in antenna. I do have a travel router (D-Link DWL-G730) so I'd like to be able to do something like this: WAN-my laptop-travel router-girlfriend's laptop That sounds right to me. Read on... I use wicd and I'm not sure how to go about this, especially since my laptop DHCPs for an IP from the WAN so I'm not sure how to define the gateway for the travel router when following this: I don't have experience with wicd or the DWL-G730, but I did do a little research on those and have suggestions. If I were setting this up myself it would be with another Wifi card in AP mode, which I'd be running DHCP on. In that case, the client (in this case your girlfriend's laptop) would be given a DHCP address and a default route of my AP's address. Alternately I might forego the DHCP server setup and instruct the client to set a particular IP and route (the route would be my AP's IP). In either case, nameservers could be copied directly from my laptop to the client's, or my laptop could supply its own IP for nameserver and provide DNS service or proxy itself. My laptop would then have a route through the AP for internal traffic, and use the (dhcp provided) default route for other traffic. Therefore, the AP would never need to specify the IP of the external connection. The client box would route all traffic through the AP's IP so it wouldn't need to know the external IP either. My laptop would have to run IPTables for NAT. You'll need network address translation because external IPs like websites won't be able to route to the client box's IP. NAT gets around this. The AP provided by my laptop must also be on a different subnet than the external network my laptop is connected to. If my laptop was connected to an access point offering a 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, for example, a seperate subnet like 192.168.2.0/24 ought to be used on the client side of my laptop. Personally I'd probably use an rfc class b subnet since they're rare, or another rare subnet like 192.168.66.0/24. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml Is there a simple way to pull this off? In short, no, but it's not too complicated, and the home router guide will help you, but using your travel router may make things more complicated. The travel router probably will itself provide NAT and DHCP so I'm not sure without playing with one how it would look to set it up that way. You might want to provide those services yourself and use the travel router as an AP instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Justin wrote: can oyu provide us our kernel config? Thats the only problems I have with my netbook: My fingers are incompatible with the size if the keyboard! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Thanasis wrote:
on 03/12/2009 09:45 AM Grant wrote the following:
I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One
netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to
speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's
possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook
not excruciatingly slow?
- Grant
Here is my setup so far:
Aspire one A110L, MMCs are Transcend’s 8GB Class 6 SDHC (SD
High-Capacity) Lifetime Warranty :-)
# uname -a
Linux atom 2.6.28-gentoo-r3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 8 16:00:20 EET 2009
i686 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
# cat /etc/fstab
LABEL=GENTOOROOT/ext2noatime0 1
LABEL=SYSTEM/mnt/SYSTEMext2noatime0 2
LABEL=ARXEIO/mnt/ARXEIOext2noatime0 2
LABEL=SWAPnoneswapsw0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/var /varnone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/tmp/tmpnone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/home/homenone rbind 0 0
/mnt/SYSTEM/portage/usr/portagenone rbind 0 0
shm/dev/shm tmpfssize=20M,nodev,nosuid,noexec0 0
# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 8069 MB, 8069677056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 981 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x6aa76660
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 981 7879851 83 Linux
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8017 MB, 8017412096 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 244672 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x65221dec
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 1 32769 1048600 82 Linux swap
/ Solaris
/dev/mmcblk0p2 32770 244672 6780896 83 Linux
Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 8017 MB, 8017412096 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 244672 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xea7e7be7
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk1p1 1 244672 7829496 83 Linux
# cat /etc/make.conf |grep -v \# |cat -s
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
VIDEO_CARDS=intel
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard synaptics mouse
ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
MAKEOPTS=-j2
LINGUAS=en el
FEATURES=buildpkg parallel-fetch userfetch metadata-transfer
AUTOCLEAN=yes
PORTAGE_NICENESS=18
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}
PORTDIR=/usr/portage/
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/tmp/portage/
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp/
PORTAGE_TMPFS=/dev/shm
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
DISTDIR=/usr/distfiles/
PKGDIR=/usr/packages/
DISTCC_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/.distcc/
CCACHE_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/ccache/
GENTOO_MIRRORS=...
SYNC=...
USE=acpi alsa ao avahi bash-completion cairo cscope cups dbus dri
encode ffmpeg gif gimp gmp gnome gnome-keyring gstreamer gtk gtkhtml hal
java java6 javascript jpeg jpeg2k lm_sensors lzo mad mbox mikmod mmx
mpeg msn networkmanager nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ogg opengl oss php
png ppds samba scanner sdl sndfile sse sse2 truetype unicode usb
vim-syntax vorbis wifi wavpack win32codecs X xinetd xft xulrunner xv
xvid zeroconf
I' m running gnome, firefox, thunderbird, etc, and have compiled even
openoffice on it without a problem. :-)
can oyu provide us our kernel config?
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[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: 1. run xfce4 (already do) 2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2) 3. use ext2 (I was using ext3) 4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed) 5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like metalog?) 6. use elevator=noop at boot 7. deactivate DRI 8. upgrade RAM to the max Which of these still apply when using a conventional HD instead of a SSD in the netbook? If the drive is indeed a bottle neck (use bonnie or bonnie++ to test) then try to NFS mount all voluminous log files. Prune the kernel, really small, it always helps. It may need swap space on the drive (be careful with this and research it. Make sure you active all of the hardware features of the cpu. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/Intel or http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD Lean out what you autostart at boot time. LESS is better if you bog down the processor or ram or SSD. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection
Grant ha scritto: I travel with a strong external antenna for picking up faint wireless signals. It works great, May I ask which antenna? It's a long time I'm looking for something like that but I keep being told that external antennas are often useless (I'm thinking of the over-the-counter usb stuff) m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection
I travel with a strong external antenna for picking up faint wireless signals. It works great, May I ask which antenna? It's a long time I'm looking for something like that but I keep being told that external antennas are often useless (I'm thinking of the over-the-counter usb stuff) m. Here it is: http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32FamID=58ProdID=152 Pair this with a USB network adapter and a 15 meter USB extender cable and you're set. It's a great antenna. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection
I travel with a strong external antenna for picking up faint wireless signals. It works great, but my girlfriend struggles to connect with her built-in antenna. I do have a travel router (D-Link DWL-G730) so I'd like to be able to do something like this: WAN-my laptop-travel router-girlfriend's laptop That sounds right to me. Read on... I use wicd and I'm not sure how to go about this, especially since my laptop DHCPs for an IP from the WAN so I'm not sure how to define the gateway for the travel router when following this: I don't have experience with wicd or the DWL-G730, but I did do a little research on those and have suggestions. If I were setting this up myself it would be with another Wifi card in AP mode, which I'd be running DHCP on. In that case, the client (in this case your girlfriend's laptop) would be given a DHCP address and a default route of my AP's address. Alternately I might forego the DHCP server setup and instruct the client to set a particular IP and route (the route would be my AP's IP). In either case, nameservers could be copied directly from my laptop to the client's, or my laptop could supply its own IP for nameserver and provide DNS service or proxy itself. My laptop would then have a route through the AP for internal traffic, and use the (dhcp provided) default route for other traffic. Therefore, the AP would never need to specify the IP of the external connection. The client box would route all traffic through the AP's IP so it wouldn't need to know the external IP either. My laptop would have to run IPTables for NAT. You'll need network address translation because external IPs like websites won't be able to route to the client box's IP. NAT gets around this. The AP provided by my laptop must also be on a different subnet than the external network my laptop is connected to. If my laptop was connected to an access point offering a 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, for example, a seperate subnet like 192.168.2.0/24 ought to be used on the client side of my laptop. Personally I'd probably use an rfc class b subnet since they're rare, or another rare subnet like 192.168.66.0/24. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml Is there a simple way to pull this off? In short, no, but it's not too complicated, and the home router guide will help you, but using your travel router may make things more complicated. The travel router probably will itself provide NAT and DHCP so I'm not sure without playing with one how it would look to set it up that way. You might want to provide those services yourself and use the travel router as an AP instead. Thanks Dan. No matter what I do, I can't get the other laptop to communicate with my laptop. It can ping the router which is between us, but it can't get to the other side. I've got dnsmasq and shorewall running on my laptop. Any idea what the problem could be? - Grant
[gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?
Hi, I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is would have to be pretty easy to use. Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen along with any audio? Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is would have to be pretty easy to use. Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen along with any audio? Thanks, Mark Install xvidcap for him and see if he'll be able to use it. WIth xvidcap, it should not matter what format the lecture he'll be listening to is in.
Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:51:28 -0700 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is would have to be pretty easy to use. Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen along with any audio? Thanks, Mark media-video/gtk-recordmydesktop or media-video/qt-recordmydesktop -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s+:+ a--- C++ UL--- P+ L++ E--- W++ N+ o-- K--- w-- O- M V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+++ t- 5- X R tv+ b+++ DI+ D++ G e+++ h-- r y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: [gentoo-user] backup program recommendations?
A shell script is all you want. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:55 AM, James Wall wallservi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a backup program that can back up to my DVD+-R/RW drive to back up my private portage tree/distfile/music/web server. What programs would you recommend to handle this task? TIA James Wall
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync + tar + bz2 ?
* Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm backing up numerous large files on another machine on my local network. Let me suggest another idea: Put a venti on the remote machine and push the tree to be backed up with vac. Never think about maintaining incremental backups anymore - just pull in the stuff, and venti will store equal data blocks only once. All you now have to do is to put the root score (printed out by vac) into some safe place. You can even directly mount the backup via vacfs :) cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ -
Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Andrey Falko ma3ox...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is would have to be pretty easy to use. Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen along with any audio? Thanks, Mark Install xvidcap for him and see if he'll be able to use it. WIth xvidcap, it should not matter what format the lecture he'll be listening to is in. Thanks. I'll check it out tomorrow. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jake Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:51:28 -0700 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is would have to be pretty easy to use. Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen along with any audio? Thanks, Mark media-video/gtk-recordmydesktop or media-video/qt-recordmydesktop Another good one. Thanks! - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
on 03/12/2009 11:54 PM Justin wrote the following: can you provide us our kernel config? Attached it. (Acer Aspire ONE A110L Atom 1.6GHz/512 MB/8.9/8GB) # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.28-gentoo-r2 # Thu Mar 5 23:20:28 2009 # # CONFIG_64BIT is not set CONFIG_X86_32=y # CONFIG_X86_64 is not set CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_ARCH_DEFCONFIG=arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_FAST_CMPXCHG_LOCAL=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_IDLE_WAIT=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y # CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL is not set CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_DEFAULT_IDLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CACHE_LINE_SIZE=y CONFIG_HAVE_SETUP_PER_CPU_AREA=y # CONFIG_HAVE_CPUMASK_OF_CPU_MAP is not set CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_POSSIBLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUSPEND_POSSIBLE=y # CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32 is not set CONFIG_ARCH_POPULATES_NODE_MAP=y # CONFIG_AUDIT_ARCH is not set CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_OPTIMIZED_INLINING=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y CONFIG_GENERIC_PENDING_IRQ=y CONFIG_X86_SMP=y CONFIG_USE_GENERIC_SMP_HELPERS=y CONFIG_X86_32_SMP=y CONFIG_X86_HT=y CONFIG_X86_BIOS_REBOOT=y CONFIG_X86_TRAMPOLINE=y CONFIG_KTIME_SCALAR=y CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config # # General setup # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32 CONFIG_LOCALVERSION= CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_TASKSTATS=y CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT=y CONFIG_TASK_XACCT=y CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING=y # CONFIG_AUDIT is not set CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=17 # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK=y # CONFIG_GROUP_SCHED is not set # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 is not set CONFIG_RELAY=y CONFIG_NAMESPACES=y # CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set # CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set # CONFIG_USER_NS is not set # CONFIG_PID_NS is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE= CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_PRINTK=y CONFIG_BUG=y CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM=y # CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is not set CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_ANON_INODES=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y CONFIG_TIMERFD=y CONFIG_EVENTFD=y CONFIG_SHMEM=y CONFIG_AIO=y CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS=y CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y # CONFIG_SLAB is not set CONFIG_SLUB=y # CONFIG_SLOB is not set # CONFIG_PROFILING is not set # CONFIG_MARKERS is not set CONFIG_HAVE_OPROFILE=y # CONFIG_KPROBES is not set CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS=y CONFIG_HAVE_IOREMAP_PROT=y CONFIG_HAVE_KPROBES=y CONFIG_HAVE_KRETPROBES=y CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK=y CONFIG_HAVE_GENERIC_DMA_COHERENT=y CONFIG_SLABINFO=y CONFIG_RT_MUTEXES=y # CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0 CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_LOAD=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set # CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y CONFIG_STOP_MACHINE=y CONFIG_BLOCK=y # CONFIG_LBD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE is not set # CONFIG_LSF is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_BSG is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INTEGRITY is not set # # IO Schedulers # CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y # CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS is not set CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y # CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS is not set CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEADLINE=y # CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ is not set # CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=deadline CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU=y CONFIG_FREEZER=y # # Processor type and features # CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y CONFIG_NO_HZ=y CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BUILD=y CONFIG_SMP=y # CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set CONFIG_X86_PC=y # CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set # CONFIG_X86_VSMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_RDC321X is not set CONFIG_SCHED_NO_NO_OMIT_FRAME_POINTER=y # CONFIG_PARAVIRT_GUEST is not set # CONFIG_MEMTEST is not set # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MEFFICEON is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set #
