Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where is my automounting coming from?

2009-03-16 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Nikos Chantziaras (rea...@arcor.de) [16.03.09 02:43]:
 Grant wrote:
  When I plug my USB cell phone into my laptop I get an icon on my xfce4
  desktop which mounts the volume if I double-click it.  The icon
  doesn't appear on another Gentoo laptop and I can't figure out why.  I
  thought it was Thunar volume management, but that isn't installed on
  either system.  Does anyone know what causes the icon to appear?  I
  also don't have gnome-volume-manager installed.
 
 It's XFCE that does this.  But for it to work, it needs HAL and D-Bus. 
 So make sure those also installed.
 
 Furthermore, the device must *not* have an entry in /etc/fstab.

Since when? I have entries for all my USB sticks in my /etc/fstab and it 
works fine.

Sebastian

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless broadband modems - Working?

2009-03-16 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:48:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:01:38 -0700, Grant wrote:
 
  Any better way to manage the connection than 'wvdial' and ctrl+c ?
 
 I've used Kppp with simlar settings.
 

If you can do it with wvdial, it can also be done using gentoo net.* init
scirpts.

For example this is the wvdial.conf for my gprs phone:

[Dialer Defaults]
#Modem = /dev/ttyACM0
Modem = /dev/rfcomm0
Baud = 460800
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = AT+CGDCONT=1,ip,internet.wind,,0,0
ISDN = 0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
Carrier Check = no
Phone = *99***1#
Username = wind
Password = wind

And this is the equivalent part in my /etc/conf.d/net

config_ppp2=( ppp )
link_ppp2=/dev/rfcomm0
username_ppp2='wind'
password_ppp2='wind'
pppd_ppp2=(
noauth
defaultroute
usepeerdns
)

phone_number_ppp2=( *99***1# )

chat_ppp2=
ABORT '\nBUSY\r'
ABORT '\nERROR\r'
ABORT '\nNO ANSWER\r'
ABORT '\nNO CARRIER\r'
ABORT '\nNO DIALTONE\r'
ABORT '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r'
'' '\rAT'
TIMEOUT 12
OK ATZ
OK 'AT+cgdcont=1,\IP\,\internet.wind\'
OK 'ATDT\T'
TIMEOUT '60'
CONNECT ''
TIMEOUT '5'
'~--' ''


So, instead of using wvdial I just run /etc/init.d/net.ppp2 start and
/etc/init.d/net.ppp2 stop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37:54PM +0100, Penguin Lover Damian squawked:
  Unless I'm mistaken, mpd uses gstreamer, right? So, have you checked that
  you have gst-plugins-ogg emerged?
 So, this would imply a buggy ebuild?

Yes, you are mistaken. mpd does not need to use gstreamer. 

To the OP, I don't think it can be strictly a versions issue. I run
mpd-0.13.2 on my desktop, and ogg-vorbis (pretty much my entire music
collection is in this format) plays just fine. On my laptop I use
0.14.2, it is stable enough (and has some nice features), so you can
go ahead a try it if you wish.

W
-- 
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in the Lewis and Clark expedition:
  It was the first documented trip in history where men asked a woman for 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 09:15:54PM +0100, Penguin Lover Damian squawked:
 Hello,
 
 When I try to play an ogg file, mpd says it is playing it, but there
 is no sound.
 
 Mps has been built with the following use flags:
  Use flags:   (aac) (alsa) (-ao) (-audiofile) (-avahi)
 (flac) (-icecast) (iconv) (ipv6) (-jack) (-libsamplerate) (-mikmod)
 (mp3) (-musepack) (ogg) (-oss) (-pulseaudio) (unicode) (vorbis)
 


The use flags look alright,  I think, the only differences are:
-ipv6 +mikmod +musepack on my desktop. But yet I have a lot more
support codecs then you do:

[09:13 AM]wwong ~ $ mpd --version
mpd (MPD: Music Player Daemon) 0.13.2

Copyright (C) 2003-2007 Warren Dukes warren.du...@gmail.com
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Supported formats:
mp3 mp2 ogg oga ogg flac wav au aiff aif m4a mp4 mpc amf dsm far gdm imf it med 
mod mtm s3m stm stx ult uni xm 

Supported outputs:
alsa 

I am not quite sure whether some sort of auto-detection at build-time
gives me those formats. Hum, along that line, you can try the 0.14.2
version as suggested by the devs. At the very least you get more
configuration options.

W

-- 
Herry Edsel Smith of Albany, NY:
Born 1903- Died 1942
Looked up the elevator shaft
to see if the car was on the
way down. It was.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Damian
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37:54PM +0100, Penguin Lover Damian squawked:
  Unless I'm mistaken, mpd uses gstreamer, right? So, have you checked that
  you have gst-plugins-ogg emerged?
 So, this would imply a buggy ebuild?

 Yes, you are mistaken. mpd does not need to use gstreamer.

 To the OP, I don't think it can be strictly a versions issue. I run
 mpd-0.13.2 on my desktop, and ogg-vorbis (pretty much my entire music
 collection is in this format) plays just fine. On my laptop I use
 0.14.2, it is stable enough (and has some nice features), so you can
 go ahead a try it if you wish.
I uploaded this album to my mp4 player, and it hung when I tried to
play it. So there may be something wrong with the encoding. The
strange thing is that mplayer plays it just fine.

I'll try to make some time to translate some mp3 file to ogg and see
what happens.


 W
 --
 The true significance of Sacajawea's involvement
 in the Lewis and Clark expedition:
  It was the first documented trip in history where men asked a woman for
  directions and followed them, allowing them to arrive at their destination.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:19:54 -0400
Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote:

 The use flags look alright,  I think, the only differences are:
 -ipv6 +mikmod +musepack on my desktop. But yet I have a lot more
 support codecs then you do:
...
 Supported formats:
 mp3 mp2 ogg oga ogg flac wav au aiff aif m4a mp4 mpc amf dsm far gdm imf it 
 med mod mtm s3m stm stx ult uni xm 

musepack is responsible for the mpc, the rest are module-file formats,
usually used for the great 8-bit music.
There's just many of them, often from different platforms.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jake Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:51:28 -0700
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to
 take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way
 for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the
 seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo
 knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is
 would have to be pretty easy to use.

Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen
 along with any audio?

 Thanks,
 Mark

 media-video/gtk-recordmydesktop
 or
 media-video/qt-recordmydesktop


 Another good one. Thanks!
 - Mark

I've never been able to get sound to work with RecordMyDesktop even
though it appears to support it... are there any tricks?



Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:16:40PM +0100, Penguin Lover Damian squawked:
 I uploaded this album to my mp4 player, and it hung when I tried to
 play it. So there may be something wrong with the encoding. The
 strange thing is that mplayer plays it just fine.
 
 I'll try to make some time to translate some mp3 file to ogg and see
 what happens.

You can also try playing the file using ogg123. 

W
-- 
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wants, and doesn't worry about whether it will make other people happy
W: self serving utilitarianism under the misuse of Adam Smith
W: case number 539

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Stroller


On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:16, Damian wrote:

... The strange thing is that mplayer plays it just fine. ...


That's a bit inconclusive, because mplayer seems very forgiving. You  
can put completely invalid codecs into a container format and mplayer  
will just be all ok, I can work out what this is.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Mpd doesn't play ogg files

2009-03-16 Thread Damian
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:16:40PM +0100, Penguin Lover Damian squawked:
 I uploaded this album to my mp4 player, and it hung when I tried to
 play it. So there may be something wrong with the encoding. The
 strange thing is that mplayer plays it just fine.

 I'll try to make some time to translate some mp3 file to ogg and see
 what happens.

 You can also try playing the file using ogg123.
I've tried, and they play just fine.

 W
 --
 S: oh, he's got this weird philosophy worked out, in which he does whatever he
 wants, and doesn't worry about whether it will make other people happy
 W: self serving utilitarianism under the misuse of Adam Smith
 W: case number 539

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Re: [gentoo-user] simple A/V recording software to grab Internet seminar?

2009-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jake Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:51:28 -0700
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
    I administer my dad's Gentoo machine from a distance. He's going to
 take some sort of seminar over the net and asked me if there was a way
 for him to record it - both audio and video. I don't know how the
 seminar will be given, but my dad's in his 80's, isn't Gentoo
 knowledgeable and if this is going to work what ever the software is
 would have to be pretty easy to use.

    Anyone have any ideas about how to record everything on his screen
 along with any audio?

 Thanks,
 Mark

 media-video/gtk-recordmydesktop
 or
 media-video/qt-recordmydesktop


 Another good one. Thanks!
 - Mark

 I've never been able to get sound to work with RecordMyDesktop even
 though it appears to support it... are there any tricks?


Exactly the problem I'm having.

Additionally it won't record video from MythTV which I think is
probably getting written directly to the graphics adapter.

Anyway, sound is the first problem to solve.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection

2009-03-16 Thread Dan Farrell
Hi again.  Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.  

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:42:55 -0700
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Dan.  No matter what I do, I can't get the other laptop to
 communicate with my laptop.  It can ping the router which is between
 us, but it can't get to the other side.  I've got dnsmasq and
 shorewall running on my laptop.  Any idea what the problem could be?

Yes; the problem is probably the routing tables.  

 - Grant
 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ext3 file permissions on a USB drive

2009-03-16 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:16:05 -0500
»Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote:

 The problem is that if user A on machine X creates a file on the
 drive, it has access permissions 644, which makes it impossible for
 user B on machine Y to modify the file.  (User A and user B are both
 me, but with different UIDs on the different machines.)

You could use ACL as has been  suggested; you could also just set the
uids of the (same) user on these machines to the same thing.

Using the same uid across boxes is a really good idea if you have users
on each box anyway.  




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ext3 file permissions on a USB drive

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dan Farrell d...@spore.ath.cx wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:16:05 -0500
 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote:

 The problem is that if user A on machine X creates a file on the
 drive, it has access permissions 644, which makes it impossible for
 user B on machine Y to modify the file.  (User A and user B are both
 me, but with different UIDs on the different machines.)

 You could use ACL as has been  suggested; you could also just set the
 uids of the (same) user on these machines to the same thing.

 Using the same uid across boxes is a really good idea if you have users
 on each box anyway.

I wonder if you could share and mount it using samba/cifs or
something, which allows fudging of the UID/GID ...



[gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage. 

Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget about 
it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to reboot. When the 
machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init script fails and everything 
thereafter fails.

I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit the 
files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this was what I 
had to do.

I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was happening.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 16 März 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage.

 Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget
 about it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to reboot.
 When the machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init script fails
 and everything thereafter fails.

 I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit the
 files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this was what
 I had to do.

 I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was happening.

me too - and it wasn't even a voluntary reboot. I stepped on the switch of the 
power chord - and first I thought my raid was fucked up :(
Luckily I have an usb stick with systemrescuecd on it around - booted from it, 
mounted everything, chroot+cfg-update

But it sucked. A lot. devfs never was such troublesome.



Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Justin
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag 16 März 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage.

 Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget
 about it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to reboot.
 When the machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init script fails
 and everything thereafter fails.

 I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit the
 files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this was what
 I had to do.

 I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was happening.
 
 me too - and it wasn't even a voluntary reboot. I stepped on the switch of 
 the 
 power chord - and first I thought my raid was fucked up :(
 Luckily I have an usb stick with systemrescuecd on it around - booted from 
 it, 
 mounted everything, chroot+cfg-update
 
 But it sucked. A lot. devfs never was such troublesome.
 
Hey guys ,

always read post emerge messages!! Portage always tells me when to update 
config files!





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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 16 March 2009 21:30:19 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag 16 März 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage.
 
  Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget
  about it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to reboot.
  When the machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init script fails
  and everything thereafter fails.
 
  I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit
  the files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this was
  what I had to do.
 
  I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was
  happening.

 me too - and it wasn't even a voluntary reboot. I stepped on the switch of
 the power chord - and first I thought my raid was fucked up :(
 Luckily I have an usb stick with systemrescuecd on it around - booted from
 it, mounted everything, chroot+cfg-update

 But it sucked. A lot. devfs never was such troublesome.

I'll say :-) Actually, sometimes I think MKNOD was really cool and just do 
everything static.

I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all this 
was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was dropping 
off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was panicing after 4 
minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6 months ago!) and I had to 
use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to rescue all this. Putty sucks, 
really badly. The only thing that sucks worse than Putty on Windows is Putty 
on Symbian, even on a Nokia Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a 
phone)  :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 16 März 2009, Justin wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Montag 16 März 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage.
 
  Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget
  about it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to
  reboot. When the machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init
  script fails and everything thereafter fails.
 
  I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit
  the files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this
  was what I had to do.
 
  I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was
  happening.
 
  me too - and it wasn't even a voluntary reboot. I stepped on the switch
  of the power chord - and first I thought my raid was fucked up :(
  Luckily I have an usb stick with systemrescuecd on it around - booted
  from it, mounted everything, chroot+cfg-update
 
  But it sucked. A lot. devfs never was such troublesome.

 Hey guys ,

 always read post emerge messages!! Portage always tells me when to update
 config files!

yes, but that does not help you in case of an accidental power failure before 
you had a chance to update the config files.




Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Justin
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
 yes, but that does not help you in case of an accidental power failure before 
 you had a chance to update the config files.
 
 

power failure is always something extra ordinary!



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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 21:30:19 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag 16 März 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  A quick heads-up if you upgrade to the latest udev in portage.
 
  Don't do what I did and postpone the etc-update step till later, forget
  about it in the rush of trying to get work done, and then need to reboot.
  When the machine boots, sysfs does not mount, the proc init script fails
  and everything thereafter fails.
 
  I suppose it's possible to boot into single user mode and manually edit
  the files in /etc. But in my case it was not at all obvious that this was
  what I had to do.
 
  I had to boot off a rescue USB stick and chroot to see what was
  happening.

 me too - and it wasn't even a voluntary reboot. I stepped on the switch of
 the power chord - and first I thought my raid was fucked up :(
 Luckily I have an usb stick with systemrescuecd on it around - booted from
 it, mounted everything, chroot+cfg-update

 But it sucked. A lot. devfs never was such troublesome.

 I'll say :-) Actually, sometimes I think MKNOD was really cool and just do
 everything static.

 I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all this
 was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was dropping
 off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was panicing after 4
 minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6 months ago!) and I had to
 use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to rescue all this. Putty sucks,
 really badly. The only thing that sucks worse than Putty on Windows is Putty
 on Symbian, even on a Nokia Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a
 phone)  :-)

What sucks about PuTTY on Windows? I use it all the time and it seems
to do everything... Granted, I just use it for simple serial port
devices and SSH stuff, no exotic terminal emulations.

PuTTY on Symbian only does SSH but it seems to do it well enough.
Running it full-screen with the smallest font is actually not so bad,
even on my 240x320 screen. Being able to connect to my computer
wherever I have a cellular signal is convenient... typing with T9 on a
numeric phone keypad, not so much... but that's the phone's fault, not
PuTTY's. :P I've been meaning to set up a simple menu script that
allows me to run all of my common tasks with phone-friendly
keystrokes. emerge -uDvptN blah blah blah really sucks to tap out on
the 0-9 keys :) Thank god for bash command history...



Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 16 March 2009 22:20:37 Paul Hartman wrote:
  I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all
  this was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was
  dropping off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was
  panicing after 4 minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6
  months ago!) and I had to use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to
  rescue all this. Putty sucks, really badly. The only thing that sucks
  worse than Putty on Windows is Putty on Symbian, even on a Nokia
  Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a phone)  :-)

 What sucks about PuTTY on Windows? I use it all the time and it seems
 to do everything... Granted, I just use it for simple serial port
 devices and SSH stuff, no exotic terminal emulations.

Putty itself isn't too bad if you look at it as a Windows app. It can never be 
anything other than a Windows app and as such is restricted to how Windows 
apps must behave. And therein is the problem - I'm way too used to openssh, I 
want a command line to fire up my ssh client, I want to 'ssh m...@there' in a 
console and it must work. I don't want to have to poke around in a vast tree 
structure to enter my options - I know what they are, I just want to type 
them. Without a mouse.

So Putty doesn't really suck in isolation. It does work and can really operate 
any different way. *Using* Putty on it's host platform sucks to someone who is 
used to much more efficient way to accomplish the same task.

 PuTTY on Symbian only does SSH but it seems to do it well enough.
 Running it full-screen with the smallest font is actually not so bad,
 even on my 240x320 screen. Being able to connect to my computer
 wherever I have a cellular signal is convenient... typing with T9 on a
 numeric phone keypad, not so much... but that's the phone's fault, not
 PuTTY's. :P I've been meaning to set up a simple menu script that
 allows me to run all of my common tasks with phone-friendly
 keystrokes. emerge -uDvptN blah blah blah really sucks to tap out on
 the 0-9 keys :) Thank god for bash command history...

On Symbian it's a life saver when all other methods fail. Again, Putty is OK, 
using the device is actually what sucks. I still can't find a pipe character! 
And the screen is almost unreadable (it wasn't three years ago...)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-16, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 22:20:37 Paul Hartman wrote:
  I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all
  this was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was
  dropping off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was
  panicing after 4 minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6
  months ago!) and I had to use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to
  rescue all this. Putty sucks, really badly. The only thing that sucks
  worse than Putty on Windows is Putty on Symbian, even on a Nokia
  Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a phone)  :-)

 What sucks about PuTTY on Windows? I use it all the time and it seems
 to do everything... Granted, I just use it for simple serial port
 devices and SSH stuff, no exotic terminal emulations.

 Putty itself isn't too bad if you look at it as a Windows app.
 It can never be anything other than a Windows app

That's odd -- the Linux version works fine for me.

   http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/putty-0.60.tar.gz

-- 
Grant Edwards   grante Yow! I hope I bought the
  at   right relish ... z
   visi.com...




[gentoo-user] are blocks now OK with portage-2.1.6.7 ?

2009-03-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Gnome-light recently went stable on x86 so my last emerge world produced
a long list of packages to merge.  Fine.

At the end it says

Total: 93 packages (87 upgrades, 4 new, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
223,796 kB
Conflict: 3 blocks
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]  

Since it offers to merge and there are no B's in the list, I assume
this version of portage resolved the blockage.  However, there are
nearly a hundred packages and some of them are important so I would like
to confirm that it is OK to let portage merge these.

thanks,
allan




Re: [gentoo-user] are blocks now OK with portage-2.1.6.7 ?

2009-03-16 Thread Justin
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Gnome-light recently went stable on x86 so my last emerge world produced
 a long list of packages to merge.  Fine.
 
 At the end it says
 
 Total: 93 packages (87 upgrades, 4 new, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
 223,796 kB
 Conflict: 3 blocks
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
 
 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]  
 
 Since it offers to merge and there are no B's in the list, I assume
 this version of portage resolved the blockage.  However, there are
 nearly a hundred packages and some of them are important so I would like
 to confirm that it is OK to let portage merge these.
 
 thanks,
 allan
 
 

One of the big steps which are in the newer portage is version is the enhanced 
blocker resolution. So uit
should go easy with your update. I am running the gnome-2.24* package since 
along time and i was always fine.



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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Dale
Justin wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   
 yes, but that does not help you in case of an accidental power failure 
 before 
 you had a chance to update the config files.


 

 power failure is always something extra ordinary!

   

It's not here.  Our power goes out sometimes just because the wind is
blowing.  I think it is about time for them to start trimming trees
again.  Trees and power lines don't go together to well.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing an internet connection

2009-03-16 Thread Grant
 Hi again.  Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.

 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:42:55 -0700
 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Dan.  No matter what I do, I can't get the other laptop to
 communicate with my laptop.  It can ping the router which is between
 us, but it can't get to the other side.  I've got dnsmasq and
 shorewall running on my laptop.  Any idea what the problem could be?

 Yes; the problem is probably the routing tables.

I moved the WAN from wlan0 to ppp0 and things started working.  I
guess I must have made some other change at the same time.  Thanks a
lot for your help.  This is a really slick setup.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:34:44 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 And the screen is almost unreadable (it wasn't three years ago...)

Pixels shrivel with age ;-)


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Fasten your seatbelt ... I wanna try something.


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 22:20:37 Paul Hartman wrote:
  I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all
  this was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was
  dropping off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was
  panicing after 4 minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6
  months ago!) and I had to use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to
  rescue all this. Putty sucks, really badly. The only thing that sucks
  worse than Putty on Windows is Putty on Symbian, even on a Nokia
  Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a phone)  :-)

 What sucks about PuTTY on Windows? I use it all the time and it seems
 to do everything... Granted, I just use it for simple serial port
 devices and SSH stuff, no exotic terminal emulations.

 Putty itself isn't too bad if you look at it as a Windows app. It can never be
 anything other than a Windows app and as such is restricted to how Windows
 apps must behave. And therein is the problem - I'm way too used to openssh, I
 want a command line to fire up my ssh client, I want to 'ssh m...@there' in a
 console and it must work. I don't want to have to poke around in a vast tree
 structure to enter my options - I know what they are, I just want to type
 them. Without a mouse.

 So Putty doesn't really suck in isolation. It does work and can really operate
 any different way. *Using* Putty on it's host platform sucks to someone who is
 used to much more efficient way to accomplish the same task.

Have you tried simply using openssh on Windows? Or is cmd.exe really
the problem? I prefer Putty because I can more easily copy and paste,
resize the window, scrollback, etc. versus the cmd.exe shell (which is
basically useless). I'm sure there are alternative windows command
shells (or you can use rxvt or something with cygwin)

 PuTTY on Symbian only does SSH but it seems to do it well enough.
 Running it full-screen with the smallest font is actually not so bad,
 even on my 240x320 screen. Being able to connect to my computer
 wherever I have a cellular signal is convenient... typing with T9 on a
 numeric phone keypad, not so much... but that's the phone's fault, not
 PuTTY's. :P I've been meaning to set up a simple menu script that
 allows me to run all of my common tasks with phone-friendly
 keystrokes. emerge -uDvptN blah blah blah really sucks to tap out on
 the 0-9 keys :) Thank god for bash command history...

 On Symbian it's a life saver when all other methods fail. Again, Putty is OK,
 using the device is actually what sucks. I still can't find a pipe character!
 And the screen is almost unreadable (it wasn't three years ago...)

Well the good thing about not having QWERTY is that all of the special
characters are simple to access (on a pop-up menu) :)

Paul



[gentoo-user] Re: are blocks now OK with portage-2.1.6.7 ?

2009-03-16 Thread ABCD
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Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Gnome-light recently went stable on x86 so my last emerge world produced
 a long list of packages to merge.  Fine.
 
 At the end it says
 
 Total: 93 packages (87 upgrades, 4 new, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
 223,796 kB
 Conflict: 3 blocks
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
 
 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]  
 
 Since it offers to merge and there are no B's in the list, I assume
 this version of portage resolved the blockage.  However, there are
 nearly a hundred packages and some of them are important so I would like
 to confirm that it is OK to let portage merge these.
 
 thanks,
 allan
 

It should be ok, and as there are 3 blocks, you will probably find
three instances of [blocks b ] (note the lowercase b), which are
automatically resolved (usually) by an [unmerge  ] line further
down (or up, if you are using --tree). This corresponds to the new
behavior, which automatically fixes problems like the old
e2fsprogs/com_err/ss/e2fsprogs-libs blocker, without breaking anything
(well, the system may be in an inconsistent state if you loose power at
*exactly* the wrong time, but that can happen anyway during a merge,
even without this new behavior).

PS: I hope I didn't ramble on too much... this was going to be much
longer, and less coherent.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: are blocks now OK with portage-2.1.6.7 ?

2009-03-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:24:01 -0400 ABCD en.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Gnome-light recently went stable on x86 so my last emerge world produced
 a long list of packages to merge.  Fine.
 
 At the end it says
 
 Total: 93 packages (87 upgrades, 4 new, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
 223,796 kB
 Conflict: 3 blocks
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
 
 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]  
 
 Since it offers to merge and there are no B's in the list, I assume
 this version of portage resolved the blockage.  However, there are
 nearly a hundred packages and some of them are important so I would like
 to confirm that it is OK to let portage merge these.
 
 thanks,
 allan
 

 It should be ok, and as there are 3 blocks, you will probably find
 three instances of [blocks b ] (note the lowercase b), which are
 automatically resolved (usually) by an [unmerge  ] line further
 down (or up, if you are using --tree). This corresponds to the new
 behavior, which automatically fixes problems like the old
 e2fsprogs/com_err/ss/e2fsprogs-libs blocker, without breaking anything
 (well, the system may be in an inconsistent state if you loose power at
 *exactly* the wrong time, but that can happen anyway during a merge,
 even without this new behavior).

 PS: I hope I didn't ramble on too much... this was going to be much
 longer, and less coherent.

Thank you and justin.  I did look for the B' (but was looking for
capital B) and didn't find it.  After justin's msg, I let the emerge go
and it has finished successfully.

Thanks again,
allan



[gentoo-user] Procmail mail ownership

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Oxley
Since late February any mail delivered to folders other than inbox using
procmail have been given ownership of root:mail instead of
david:users as it was previously. A new version of procmail was
installed on 21 Feb so I'm assuming thats caused this issue. Does anyone
have any ideas how to fix this?

Cheers,
Dave.



[gentoo-user] failure of gnome-settings-daemon

2009-03-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Gnome-light became stable recently on x86 and I have now upgraded to
2.24.

Unfortunately gnome-settings-daemon fails (silently).
This prevents my normal login.  Wnen using the gnome failsafe login,
I can get in and work, but whenever I try
   systempreferencesappearance
I get a dialog box saying that gnome-settings-setting cannot be started.

Although I can get to the appearance dialog, various fonts are too big
and can't be changed.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
thanks,
allan