[gentoo-user] conflict in update
I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It
looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice.
I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are.
Translation appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --update --deep world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] dev-libs/libassuan-1.0.5 [1.0.4]
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 [2.5.2-r7] USE=xml%*
[ebuild U ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6_rc9 [0.6_rc8-r1]
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4]
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4]
[ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.11 [2.0.10]
[ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.14.1 [2.14.0]
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
app-text/poppler-bindings:0
('installed', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'virtual/poppler-glib-0.10.4', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'media-gfx/inkscape-0.46-r5', 'nomerge')
(and 1 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
app-text/poppler-bindings required by world
Explanation:
New USE for 'app-text/poppler-bindings:0' are incorrectly set. In
order to solve this, adjust USE to satisfy '~app-text/poppler-
bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo]'.
app-text/poppler:0
('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
~app-text/poppler-0.10.5 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge')
(and 1 more)
('installed', '/', 'app-text/poppler-0.10.4', 'nomerge') pulled in by
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('installed', '/',
'dev-tex/luatex-0.30.3', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-office/openoffice-3.0.0', 'nomerge')
(and 3 more)
It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
--
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Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein
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Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It
looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice.
I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are.
Translation appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --update --deep world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] dev-libs/libassuan-1.0.5 [1.0.4]
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 [2.5.2-r7] USE=xml%*
[ebuild U ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6_rc9 [0.6_rc8-r1]
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4]
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4]
[ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.11 [2.0.10]
[ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.14.1 [2.14.0]
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
app-text/poppler-bindings:0
('installed', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'media-gfx/gimp-2.6.4', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'virtual/poppler-glib-0.10.4', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo] required by ('installed',
'/', 'media-gfx/inkscape-0.46-r5', 'nomerge')
(and 1 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
app-text/poppler-bindings required by world
Explanation:
New USE for 'app-text/poppler-bindings:0' are incorrectly set. In
order to solve this, adjust USE to satisfy '~app-text/poppler-
bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo]'.
It tells you what todo:
emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4
with USE=gtk cairo
check that if it solves the problem
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:32:30 +0200, Justin wrote:
('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge')
pulled in by app-text/poppler-bindings required by world
Explanation:
New USE for 'app-text/poppler-bindings:0' are incorrectly set. In
order to solve this, adjust USE to satisfy '~app-text/poppler-
bindings-0.10.4[gtk,cairo]'.
It tells you what todo:
emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4
with USE=gtk cairo
And remove poppler-bindings from world.
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Re: [gentoo-user] X-forwarding fails with Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
X-forwarding used to work for me but I haven't used it in a while and now I get: Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Cannot open display: Ah, I had this problem for months; it was driving me crazy! I don't remember the specifics, but it had to to with some wankery of glibc not working properly with xauth. I'm pretty sure the fix is to update to =sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2 or regress glibc back a few ticks. Regards, Wyatt Thanks Wyatt. I upgraded the server and client to the latest glibc in portage with the same result. When I tried to downgrade glibc, I got: * Sanity check to keep you from breaking your system: * Downgrading glibc is not supported and a sure way to destruction - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] X-forwarding fails with Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:01:59 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: X-forwarding used to work for me but I haven't used it in a while and now I get: Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Cannot open display: I have: # cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep X11Forwarding X11Forwarding yes Does anyone know how to fix this? I remember fixing similar problem with xhost +localhost line. Don't really remember why it helped, since I lack basic knowledge of X authentication mechanisms. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X-forwarding fails with Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
On Saturday 25 April 2009 19:25:26 Grant wrote:
X-forwarding used to work for me but I haven't used it in a while and
now I get:
Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not
generated
Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11
forwarding. Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
Cannot open display:
Ah, I had this problem for months; it was driving me crazy!
I don't remember the specifics, but it had to to with some wankery of
glibc not working properly with xauth. I'm pretty sure the fix is to
update to
=sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2 or regress glibc back a few ticks.
Regards,
Wyatt
Thanks Wyatt. I upgraded the server and client to the latest glibc in
portage with the same result. When I tried to downgrade glibc, I got:
* Sanity check to keep you from breaking your system:
* Downgrading glibc is not supported and a sure way to destruction
And there's a very good reason for that message - I'm sure you can figure it
out. However, some downgrades are safe. You should be able to get away with
downgrading to any lower version in the same minor release - 2.9 in your case.
Tip: quickpkg glibc, portage, python, gcc and other vital stuff befoore you
try this stunt:
Edit the desired build, and look for this in pkg_setup():
if has_version ''${CATEGORY}/${PF} ; then
eerror Sanity check to keep you from breaking your system:
eerror Downgrading glibc is not supported and a sure way to
destruction
die aborting to save your system
fi
Comment out the die call, re-digest, re-emerge.
The very very latest ebuild has it in files/eblits/pkg_setup.eblit instead,
but you won't be using that for a downgrade.
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Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:48:51 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: And remove poppler-bindings from world. And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 Will that go stable soon? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpNPqnHf4hUy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] telephony
You seem to want to know the difference, FXO vs FXS. If I got this wrong, just delete it. FXS is meant to interface to a telephone set, so it gives talk battery and (as needed) ringing current. FXO is meant to interface to a line from a telco switch, so it accepts battery (if the circuit it's hooked up to doesn't give talk battery, you have no circuit) and expects to be rung into, so it detects ringing battery. Most of the time, both FXO's and FXS's offer options to operate in loop start (regular POTS) or ground start mode. Write me if you need more on that last. Options like reverse battery aren't usually offered in FXO/FXS cards. You usually have to give a FXS card your own source of ringing battery, not FXO, because an FXO is expecting to have ringing battery sent to it (from the telco switch it's connected to) to begin with. This brought an idea in my mind... the phone lines in our houses here in Quebec,Canada are set so the line comes into the house at one point (called dmark i think) then it is spread around. if there is no service, then there is no dialtone, if one phone is used, then all phones can hear the conversation if picked up. normal stuff. but what if i were to setup a pc to work with asterisk and somehow plugged a FXS (i guess?) card to any phone jack in the house. then any normal phone would be networked to that FXS card and anything done on them will go through the PC (the pc will actually take care of sending a dialtone, etc...) am i correct, is this possible (to use the existing POTS infrastructure)? Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 25/04/09 Justin said: It tells you what todo: emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 with USE=gtk cairo check that if it solves the problem msoul...@anton:~$ USE=gtk cairo sudo emerge --pretend app-text/poppler-bindings These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4] [ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1 [0.10.4] Ok, I'll try this and repeat. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgprqRFvxjKzn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: And remove poppler-bindings from world. Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpMwhTWypm80.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:17:52 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: And remove poppler-bindings from world. Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? No, it just takes it out of the world file and puts it back to what it really is - a dependant package that it pulled in and used if and only if it is needed. You will not notice any difference in use, portage may well be in a position to automatically fix problems like this in the future, and one day you might find --depclean removing it when everything else using it is removed. What is exactly the behaviour you want. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 25/04/09 Justin said:
It tells you what todo:
emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4
with USE=gtk cairo
check that if it solves the problem
Ok, I rebuilt app-text/poppler-bindings with USE=gtk cairo, and I removed
app-text/poppler-bindings from world.
Now I get this
msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --update --deep world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] dev-libs/libassuan-1.0.5 [1.0.4]
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 [2.5.2-r7] USE=xml%*
[ebuild U ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6_rc9 [0.6_rc8-r1]
[ebuild UD] app-text/poppler-0.10.4 [0.10.5-r1]
[ebuild UD] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 [0.10.5-r1]
[ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.11 [2.0.10]
[ebuild U ] dev-python/pygtk-2.14.1 [2.14.0]
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
app-text/poppler:0
('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-0.10.4', 'merge') pulled in by
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('installed', '/',
'dev-tex/luatex-0.30.3', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('installed', '/',
'app-text/xpdf-3.02-r2', 'nomerge')
~app-text/poppler-0.10.4 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4', 'merge')
(and 3 more)
('installed', '/', 'app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
app-text/poppler required by world
It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
So, luatex and xpdf require poppler 0.10.4, but app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 is
already installed. I guess xpdf and luatex can't handle the newer poppler
version for some reason? It's actually trying to downgrade poppler and
poppler-bindings for some reason.
Mike
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Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein
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Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: So, luatex and xpdf require poppler 0.10.4, but app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 is already installed. I guess xpdf and luatex can't handle the newer poppler version for some reason? It's actually trying to downgrade poppler and poppler-bindings for some reason. Furthermore it looks like app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --depclean --verbose app-text/poppler Calculating dependencies... done! app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 pulled in by: app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1 msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --depclean --verbose app-text/poppler-bindings Calculating dependencies... done! These are the packages that would be unmerged: app-text/poppler-bindings selected: 0.10.5-r1 protected: none omitted: none app-text/poppler-bindings needs app-text/poppler but nothing needs app-text/poppler-bindings, so maybe it's a leftover... My apps actually want a previous version instead. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpxvgJzC5eQi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpdcsyINc33c.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] voice or touch data entry apps
Hello, I'm looking for special types of applications that allow for data entry, via voice commands or using the touch screen on a touch screen enabled laptop. KDE4 is my preferred desktop, but any application that will run on kde4 and gentoo is of interest. Is there anything like this out there? My specific application is for live data entry into some form of interface that resembles a the kind of score sheet used manually for stats during a basketball game. Any ideas or resources are welcome related to software, touch screen enabled laptops or tablets or voice input/response are all of keen (gentoo) interest for me. James
[gentoo-user] ebuild description
Often when I see something like dev-libs/libassuan, I say, what the heck is that? So I look at the ebuild file... msoul...@anton:~$ grep DESCRIPTION /usr/portage/dev-libs/libassuan/libassuan-1.0 .5.ebuild DESCRIPTION=Standalone IPC library used by gpg, gpgme and newpg Great, that helps. Still, I wouldn't think that grep would be the best say, so I looked in the emerge manpage and found --info, but that tells me everything *except* the DESCRIPTION string. :) equery doesn't seem to dump this either.. So, is grep the best approach to answer, what the heck is that? :) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgp4mZtcGGIoY.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] capslock reversal
I've had this happen a few times now in the new Xorg. All of a sudden I'm typing in all caps, but my caps lock is off. I put it on and I'm not in all caps anymore in a particular app (xterm or vim), but now I'm in caps in another window... If I go to a virtual terminal and back it seems to fix it. Anyone else see this? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgp7h99rehHmz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild description
* Michael P. Soulier (msoul...@digitaltorque.ca) [25.04.09 20:59]: So, is grep the best approach to answer, what the heck is that? :) No, eix is: emerge eix man eix Mike HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org pgp5tiWdbabJp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild description
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:59:09 Michael P. Soulier wrote: Often when I see something like dev-libs/libassuan, I say, what the heck is that? So I look at the ebuild file... msoul...@anton:~$ grep DESCRIPTION /usr/portage/dev-libs/libassuan/libassuan-1.0 .5.ebuild DESCRIPTION=Standalone IPC library used by gpg, gpgme and newpg Great, that helps. Still, I wouldn't think that grep would be the best say, so I looked in the emerge manpage and found --info, but that tells me everything *except* the DESCRIPTION string. :) equery doesn't seem to dump this either.. So, is grep the best approach to answer, what the heck is that? :) emerge eix -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:52:28 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You did. You had it in world, remember. At some point you did something like this: emerge poppler-bindings So, it went in world, portage continued to emerge it to the latest and greatest newest version every time you ran emerge -avuND world. Eventually all consumers of the library were removed and you were left with an unused package in world. Incidentally, poppler has a long and fine history of insanely breaking users' configs every time its developers sneeze. The number of times I've had poppler show up in revdep-rebuild output defies any kind of sane, logical, rational description. Not even Microsoft can breaks so many things so often, and that's saying something... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:14:23 -0400 Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 Will that go stable soon? I've yet to see any bugs. It might not be good idea to mix stable/unstable trees, but since it doesn't have much dependencies I think it's worth unmasking. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild description
Michael P. Soulier wrote: msoul...@anton:~$ grep DESCRIPTION /usr/portage/dev-libs/libassuan/libassuan-1.0 .5.ebuild DESCRIPTION=Standalone IPC library used by gpg, gpgme and newpg Great, that helps. Still, I wouldn't think that grep would be the best say, so I looked in the emerge manpage and found --info, but that tells me everything *except* the DESCRIPTION string. :) Try: emerge -s libassuan -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] capslock reversal
Michael P. Soulier wrote: I've had this happen a few times now in the new Xorg. All of a sudden I'm typing in all caps, but my caps lock is off. I put it on and I'm not in all caps anymore in a particular app (xterm or vim), but now I'm in caps in another window... If I go to a virtual terminal and back it seems to fix it. Anyone else see this? Thanks, Mike Did you switch to a console and then it changes? I have ran into this for a looong time now. If I switch from KDE to a console, ctrl alt F1, then switch back to KDE, the caps lock is sort of doing funny things, It varies but usually I have to hit the caps lock key twice for it to get sorted out. Then my keyboard led and what it is actually doing matches. Also, I'm still on the old xorg and it does what I described. I have KDE 3.5.10 set to leave caps lock alone but to enable numlock. I have not tried to change any other settings. Hope this info will at least let you know that your system is not the only one being weird. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
Alan McKinnon wrote: Incidentally, poppler has a long and fine history of insanely breaking users' configs every time its developers sneeze. The number of times I've had poppler show up in revdep-rebuild output defies any kind of sane, logical, rational description. Not even Microsoft can breaks so many things so often, and that's saying something... You sure it is as bad as M$? That is pretty bad and saying a LOT. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] capslock reversal
Dale wrote: Michael P. Soulier wrote: I've had this happen a few times now in the new Xorg. All of a sudden I'm typing in all caps, but my caps lock is off. I put it on and I'm not in all caps anymore in a particular app (xterm or vim), but now I'm in caps in another window... If I go to a virtual terminal and back it seems to fix it. Anyone else see this? Thanks, Mike Did you switch to a console and then it changes? I have ran into this for a looong time now. If I switch from KDE to a console, ctrl alt F1, then switch back to KDE, the caps lock is sort of doing funny things, It varies but usually I have to hit the caps lock key twice for it to get sorted out. Then my keyboard led and what it is actually doing matches. Also, I'm still on the old xorg and it does what I described. I have KDE 3.5.10 set to leave caps lock alone but to enable numlock. I have not tried to change any other settings. Hope this info will at least let you know that your system is not the only one being weird. Dale :-) :-) I ran into the same issue a few weeks ago, just wrote on my keyboard to make it Caps UnLock and called that solved.
[gentoo-user] Domain name registration
Hello, I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars. But first a few key points. 1. I own the domain name exclusively. This means if I want to change (move) registrars, it's not an issue, except for expenses. 2. No bundled packages for space of any kind needed or wanted. (I'll be running my own server on dedicated connection). 3. No DNS restrictions except for the Registrar running optional secondary (dns) service for me. I need to run the primary and the secondary DNS servers. Lots of things have changed since I last did this, so I'm definitely not interested in Go Daddy or any such monkeyshines or crap. Just registration, and leave me alone to run my own servers. i. e. no nonsense. All suggestions are most welcome. I'm not really interested in anything free (if there are any strings attached), but am willing to swap (dns) secondary services for light bandwidth types of similar DNS secondary services.. Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts? James
Re: [gentoo-user] telephony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon wrote: You seem to want to know the difference, FXO vs FXS. If I got this wrong, just delete it. FXS is meant to interface to a telephone set, so it gives talk battery and (as needed) ringing current. FXO is meant to interface to a line from a telco switch, so it accepts battery (if the circuit it's hooked up to doesn't give talk battery, you have no circuit) and expects to be rung into, so it detects ringing battery. Most of the time, both FXO's and FXS's offer options to operate in loop start (regular POTS) or ground start mode. Write me if you need more on that last. Options like reverse battery aren't usually offered in FXO/FXS cards. You usually have to give a FXS card your own source of ringing battery, not FXO, because an FXO is expecting to have ringing battery sent to it (from the telco switch it's connected to) to begin with. This brought an idea in my mind... the phone lines in our houses here in Quebec,Canada are set so the line comes into the house at one point (called dmark i think) then it is spread around. if there is no service, then there is no dialtone, if one phone is used, then all phones can hear the conversation if picked up. normal stuff. but what if i were to setup a pc to work with asterisk and somehow plugged a FXS (i guess?) card to any phone jack in the house. then any normal phone would be networked to that FXS card and anything done on them will go through the PC (the pc will actually take care of sending a dialtone, etc...) am i correct, is this possible (to use the existing POTS infrastructure)? I'm afraid I don't completely understand how you'd do that. An FXS card is used when you want to interface between on kind of communications and another. Usually you have, at one end, a regular 2 wire line, a POTS line, but you'd only need this FXS card if the other size of the circuit differs: maybe it's a 4 wire circuit, maybe it's a DS0 channel of a T1, I don't know if folks are still using SF-based circuitry anymore (the ability to fake out the signalling is very well publicized nowadays). You comment about putting an FXS card on your house wiring isn't clear to me, but the electrical and communications effect would be similar to attaching an extra telephone set to your house wiring, I think. I could make more sense if YOU could make more sense, and tell me why you'd be using that FXS card (what sort of signalling conversion are you effecting?) One example might be to take your two wire house POTS line and remote it to a different state, like originating in Michigan, and adding a remote to New Mexico. You can't move a 2 wire line anywhere near that far, so you'd need to convert the signal to some format more well adapted to long distance travel. Again, it would be exactly as if you had added a new phone set to your house wiring. You'd hear if someone were listening this way, it wouldn't be silent. Creating a good tap of a 2 wire line would be possible, but not that easily, and it would have to be listening only, no ability to break into the conversation. Thanks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknzeY8ACgkQz62J6PPcoOld6ACgkn1hjAV8LYyukPM2OVuIFfwQ zFEAn1e2kQrlIbR9gN7AS8MAiOZXHWTv =ux0T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] capslock reversal
Saphirus Sage wrote: Dale wrote: Michael P. Soulier wrote: I've had this happen a few times now in the new Xorg. All of a sudden I'm typing in all caps, but my caps lock is off. I put it on and I'm not in all caps anymore in a particular app (xterm or vim), but now I'm in caps in another window... If I go to a virtual terminal and back it seems to fix it. Anyone else see this? Thanks, Mike Did you switch to a console and then it changes? I have ran into this for a looong time now. If I switch from KDE to a console, ctrl alt F1, then switch back to KDE, the caps lock is sort of doing funny things, It varies but usually I have to hit the caps lock key twice for it to get sorted out. Then my keyboard led and what it is actually doing matches. Also, I'm still on the old xorg and it does what I described. I have KDE 3.5.10 set to leave caps lock alone but to enable numlock. I have not tried to change any other settings. Hope this info will at least let you know that your system is not the only one being weird. Dale :-) :-) I ran into the same issue a few weeks ago, just wrote on my keyboard to make it Caps UnLock and called that solved. If I hit the button twice, if the caps lock LED is on, it's in caps, if it is off then it is lower case. It just doesn't update the keyboard LED when it switches from console to KDE. Sort of funny in a way. It's like my puter is drunk or something. LOL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: Hello, I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars. But first a few key points. 1. I own the domain name exclusively. This means if I want to change (move) registrars, it's not an issue, except for expenses. 2. No bundled packages for space of any kind needed or wanted. (I'll be running my own server on dedicated connection). 3. No DNS restrictions except for the Registrar running optional secondary (dns) service for me. I need to run the primary and the secondary DNS servers. Lots of things have changed since I last did this, so I'm definitely not interested in Go Daddy or any such monkeyshines or crap. Just registration, and leave me alone to run my own servers. i. e. no nonsense. I do precisely this, using GoDaddy. I don't see why using a service like that wouldn't be possible to get into what you want. You'd have to make sure, when you set it up, that you didn't ask GoDaddy to supply any other services, but it's certainly possible. I run my own server, I get the name from GoDaddy, but they provide no nameserver services, nor web pages. I used to get it from a different vendor, but their service turned out to stink, so I learned that it takes about a week or two to transfer the name (from X to GoDaddy), because all services (like GoDaddy) need to go to reasonable lengths to make sure that they aren't faked out by frauds. You probably wouldn't really want less. All suggestions are most welcome. I'm not really interested in anything free (if there are any strings attached), but am willing to swap (dns) secondary services for light bandwidth types of similar DNS secondary services.. Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts? James -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknzfF8ACgkQz62J6PPcoOnV6gCdEkMv+YzoIL0QzfuAaAsD3HM5 duEAnjWRaabvLJ4//SL3Z6KqpDUuKdqv =JLR3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Re: Domain name registration
Chuck Robey chuckr at telenix.org writes: I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars. I do precisely this, using GoDaddy. I don't see why using a service like that wouldn't be possible to get into what you want. You'd have to make sure, when you set it up, that you didn't ask GoDaddy to supply any other services, but it's certainly possible. I run my own server, I get the name from GoDaddy, but they provide no nameserver services, nor web pages. I used to get it from a different vendor, but their service turned out to stink, so I learned that it takes about a week or two to transfer the name (from X to GoDaddy), because all services (like GoDaddy) need to go to reasonable lengths to make sure that they aren't faked out by frauds. You probably wouldn't really want less. I'm not sure that only registering a DN with GoDaddy, means that *you* actually own that DN. Might be possible, but in the dozens of friends I've tried to help, all got screwed by GoDaddy. It just seems to me it's easier to prevent it. Besides do I really want to reward a company like GoDaddy with my business? Methinks not. ymmv. My experience with other friends is that when they try to move from GoDaddy, they get informed that GoDaddy owns the Domain Name. I'm not transferring a DNS that I already own, so, I'm very leery of using Go Daddy. They might be ok to transfer an existing name, but, I'm not willing to take that risk. Have you ever successfully transferred a DN that you originally registered initially with GoDaddyto another registrar? Maybe I should justget ripped by Network solutions for a raw registration for $35.00 and just be down with it? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars. I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom). It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc without any issues.
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars. I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom). It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc without any issues. There is also a coupon code this month that will give you a discount: 7tulips
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that should only ever be installed as dependencies. -- Neil Bothwick Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that should only ever be installed as dependencies. And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when not using that opton to just rebuild something for some reason or other. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] GUI for touchscreen PC?
I have 800x480 resolution, but with the touchscreen the pointer is clumsy to use. I need something that has large buttons, and will re-size dialogue windows so that the buttons at the bottom still fit on the window. Any suggestions?
Re: [gentoo-user] telephony
Sorry for top posting my bb is dumb about that. The answer to your question is yes, you can uses your current pots lines. You want your outside line to be fxo and lines connecting to your standard phones to be fxs. The digium wildcard supports 4 pots and you can buy them with a different mix of fxo/fxs, they are simple removable modules. Don't waste your time with a x100p card, they suck and will be more of a waste of time then they are worth. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Simon turne...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:14:56 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] telephony You seem to want to know the difference, FXO vs FXS. If I got this wrong, just delete it. FXS is meant to interface to a telephone set, so it gives talk battery and (as needed) ringing current. FXO is meant to interface to a line from a telco switch, so it accepts battery (if the circuit it's hooked up to doesn't give talk battery, you have no circuit) and expects to be rung into, so it detects ringing battery. Most of the time, both FXO's and FXS's offer options to operate in loop start (regular POTS) or ground start mode. Write me if you need more on that last. Options like reverse battery aren't usually offered in FXO/FXS cards. You usually have to give a FXS card your own source of ringing battery, not FXO, because an FXO is expecting to have ringing battery sent to it (from the telco switch it's connected to) to begin with. This brought an idea in my mind... the phone lines in our houses here in Quebec,Canada are set so the line comes into the house at one point (called dmark i think) then it is spread around. if there is no service, then there is no dialtone, if one phone is used, then all phones can hear the conversation if picked up. normal stuff. but what if i were to setup a pc to work with asterisk and somehow plugged a FXS (i guess?) card to any phone jack in the house. then any normal phone would be networked to that FXS card and anything done on them will go through the PC (the pc will actually take care of sending a dialtone, etc...) am i correct, is this possible (to use the existing POTS infrastructure)? Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:27:08PM -0500, Dale wrote: And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when not using that opton to just rebuild something for some reason or other. I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I had seen a few vague references to -1, but just assumed that portage was smart enough to only add new packages. But now is now, and I have a huge world file. How does one clean up such a beast? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:52 -0700 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I had seen a few vague references to -1, but just assumed that portage was smart enough to only add new packages. Could be a good idea, btw, but if you're _rebuilding_ the package, not just using something like '--noreplace'. Worth a GLEP, prehaps? But now is now, and I have a huge world file. How does one clean up such a beast? I go through my /var/lib/portage/world file in nano from time to time, just killing (^K) the lines I don't know about (mostly it's some packages I checked out and forgot to remove), looks easy enough, since it has no place in the @world, if you don't know about it. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for touchscreen PC?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:35:46 +1000 Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.au wrote: I have 800x480 resolution, but with the touchscreen the pointer is clumsy to use. I need something that has large buttons, and will re-size dialogue windows so that the buttons at the bottom still fit on the window. Any suggestions? Some tiling WM like awesome, prehaps? It will fit everything on your screen, without overlapping or hiding anything behind it's bounds. But it won't make buttons any larger, since it's not a WM business to meddle in windows/widgets contents, only their composition. You should have better luck tweaking GTK/QT settings, since pretty much every button is drawn using a standard widget from one of these two. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
