Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for xli?

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 04:25:57 +0200
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
  Is there any smallsized replacement for media-gfx/xli for loading
  pictures to the desktop background?
 
  xli breaks my update since it wants jpeg-6b-r8 (yes, I have
  jpeg-compat installed) -- may be hardcoded?

xli-1.17.0-r4 has the fix for depending on jpeg-6b

/Peter




[gentoo-user] vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread Xi Shen
Hi,

i have vmware-server 2.0 running on gentoo amd64, the guest os is
windows xp. on another gentoo amd64 machine, i emerged
vmware-server-console, and tried to connect to the guest os, but
without luck. a vmware-server-console window popup, but with nothing
in it.

i am using awesome 3.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84



[gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread Xi Shen
btw, the 'vmware-server-console' program requires a -P (port)
argument, but i do not understand what kind of port number should i
give. i remember while installing the server, a port 902 is opened by
default for accessing the guest os. is it the port that the program
expected? anyway, i tried with this port without luck.


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Xi Shendavidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 i have vmware-server 2.0 running on gentoo amd64, the guest os is
 windows xp. on another gentoo amd64 machine, i emerged
 vmware-server-console, and tried to connect to the guest os, but
 without luck. a vmware-server-console window popup, but with nothing
 in it.

 i am using awesome 3.


 --
 Best Regards,
 David Shen

 http://twitter.com/davidshen84




-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Virtualization

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 05 September 2009 23:06:37 walt wrote:

 I don't use vmware but I do use virtualbox every day and I love it.
 It's extremely fast even compared to kvm, which I also use on my newest
 machine with hardware virtualization support.

 I suggest you fetch the latest stable binary package from:
 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
 (choose the All distributions package) and run it, which will also
 build and install the vbox kernel modules automatically.

 It's very easy, quick, and simple. It even comes with an uninstall
 script if you don't like it.

I tried it, but on my box it can't detect either of the DVD drives, so I 
can't install a client.

I may try installing it on my local server and see if that's any better.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   One thing [kde:4] definitely is not, is the next evolution of KDE-3.
   Comparisons with KDE-3 are going result in disappointment
 
  Well, that seems to condemn v4 out of hand :-) . If it can't compare
  favourably with its predecessor, what's it doing there at all?

 Read the post again. I said nothing about favourable, unfavourable or
 anything else like that.

 I only said that KDE4 is not KDE3 (doh...) so if you run KDE4 thinking
 you are going to get something like KDE3 you are going to be
 disappointed. It is not like KDE3, it is not built on KDE3, it is not an
 evolution of KDE3. It is different, and stands on it's own. Comparisons
 with KDE3 are unfair, sort of like comparing you with your father is
 unfair.

The way I read your words is equally valid. If I compare a later version 
with its predecessor I don't expect to be disappointed.

  I'm working quite hard at getting used to it (it's even the default
  grub choice), but it's uphill all the way.

 Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
 The dm does that.

Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate 
installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I want 
with grub entries.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-07 Thread Xi Shen
Hi,

when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
could someone here fix this?


-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84



[gentoo-user] Merge svnroots

2009-09-07 Thread Song Zhiwei
Hi all,
Is there any way to merge a svnroot to another one? There are independent
before.

Regards,
Zhiwei


Re: [gentoo-user] Merge svnroots

2009-09-07 Thread Mickaël Bucas
2009/9/7 Song Zhiwei son...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
 Is there any way to merge a svnroot to another one? There are independent
 before.

 Regards,
 Zhiwei

Hi

I've done this using the procedure describe in SVN manual
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch05s03.html#svn-ch-5-sect-3.5

The steps are :
 - Dump all your current svn roots with svnadmin dump myrepos  dumpfile
(One file for each root)
 - Create your new svn root
 - Load your dumps into the new root svnadmin load newrepos  dumpfile

Mickaël Bucas


Re: [gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:19:09PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
 when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
 trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
 special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
 mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
 some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
 could someone here fix this?

Either you made a typo or there's a typo in the ebuild somehow. 

Looking at my copy of the ebuild (which I last synced, well, a while
ago. This is on a stable box that doesn't need much updating.):

# Copyright 1999-2009 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/dmg2img/dmg2img-1.6.ebuild,v1.1 
2009/05/24 10:33:28 ssuominen Exp $

EAPI=2
inherit toolchain-funcs

DESCRIPTION=Converts Apple DMG files to standard HFS+ images
HOMEPAGE=http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools;
SRC_URI=http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?${P}.tar.gz;


So your really should be trying to download 

http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.1.tar.gz

Notice the .pl? The author has the downloads fed via some sort of perl
script... so the question mark '?' makes perfect sense. 

W
-- 
You'd better hope that the planet's orbits are stable, because if they weren't
then every time somebody sneezed you'd fret about whether the Earth would go 
careening off.
~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1004 days, 11:57



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread David Snider


On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Xi Shen wrote:


give. i remember while installing the server, a port 902 is opened by
default for accessing the guest os. is it the port that the program
expected? anyway, i tried with this port without luck.


VMWare Server 2 did away with the console.  Try connecting your web  
browser to https://localhost:8333




Re: [gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-07 Thread Massimo Gengarelli
No problems here, I've just installed and used dmg2img successfully.

On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:19:09PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
 when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
 trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
 special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
 mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
 some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
 could someone here fix this?

-- 
Massimo Gengarelli.
 Computer Science student @ http://www.unibo.it .
 http://massitm.sohead.org -- my personal, outdated, website.

What is the difference between a Turing machine and the modern computer?
It's the same as that between Hillary's ascent of Everest and the
establishment of a Hilton on its peak.



Re: [gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/09, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:19:09PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
 when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
 trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
 special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
 mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
 some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
 could someone here fix this?

 So your really should be trying to download

 http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.1.tar.gz

My guess was that OP meant that Gentoo Mirrors don't seem to carry the
file, even if it is still directly downloadable?

Over here portage tries downloading it from mirrors first (naturally),
gets 404s and then goes for the real source. So, maybe OP has a gentoo
mirror available nearby (in network topology) and just wants to reduce
wasted international traffic?

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] Merge svnroots

2009-09-07 Thread Song Zhiwei
Thanks

2009/9/7 Mickaël Bucas mbu...@gmail.com



 2009/9/7 Song Zhiwei son...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
 Is there any way to merge a svnroot to another one? There are independent
 before.

 Regards,
 Zhiwei

 Hi

 I've done this using the procedure describe in SVN manual
 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch05s03.html#svn-ch-5-sect-3.5

 The steps are :
  - Dump all your current svn roots with svnadmin dump myrepos  dumpfile
 (One file for each root)
  - Create your new svn root
  - Load your dumps into the new root svnadmin load newrepos  dumpfile

 Mickaël Bucas




Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg problems: Intel 945GM (Gigabyte Motherboard onboard video)

2009-09-07 Thread Yoav Luft
I had a similar with the intel video driver, it took me some time to
get it all working smoothly.
First, read this wiki page: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA,
and follow to the latter, including the specific versions of
everything, and parameters that need to be passed to the kernel (yes,
I know they say you should either set it when configuring the kernel,
or when starting it. Do both!). It worked for me, and I had the same
problems.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you, Volker.

 I'm uncertain what did it: I have fluxbox working now.  Many
 intervening steps, lots of error messages.  Somehow, it just works.

 Thanks again.

 Alan

 On 2009-09-06, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Alan E. Davis wrote:
  I got caught, apparently like many others, installing Gentoo to another
  PC.
  I've been running Ubuntu (probably Intrepid Ibex, two versions ago), so I
  know this video adapter is supported.  But various issues have ambushed me
  in trying to get this working.
 
  1.  On first install, the keyboard didn't work.  I followed the
   instructions to the letter, the mouse even worked, but the keyboard
   didn't.  I killed off the windows one by one with the mouse, and the
   machine was then stalled in that state.
 
  2. I remembered a keyboard issue from my home machine, involving a new
  version of xorg, so I (unwisely perhaps) added the ~amd64 keyword to
  make.conf.  Thereupon followed a series of issues, involving one
  hypothesis
  after another.  I never saw a screen with the X cursor again.
 
  3. There is an issue surrounding HAL.  I added a hal keyword, recompiled,
  tweaked the kernel: no good.  I got a black screen.  Keyboard wasn't
  working, so I followed a few more hunches.  I was unable to read the docs
   in a nice screen, as I was using links.
 
  4. Eventually I decided to put the hal keyword back in, and recompiled.
  In
  the interim I had removed the ~amd keyword from make.conf, and I ran
  emerge
  -uDav --newuse world.  Thinking better of it, a few merges into that, I
  replaced the ~amd64 keyword, and started the same process.  I found along
  the way that I needed to serially recompile the kernel, re-merge
  xf86-input-*, etc., again.  I then decided to enable evdev, even though I
  was intimidated by that from my earlier issue with an nvidia card.
 
  5.  I finally read some forum topics and mailing list threads.  Apparently
  this is not uncommon at ALL.  A gentoo wiki article about the Intel cards
  was referred to, but is unavailable.  Interestingly, even the google cache
  is clear of these missing gentoo wiki articles!
 
  I've finally left the machine overnight to run it's course of
  re-installation etc.  If that doesn't work, I have already copied over the
  grub.conf entry for the ubuntu install on the same disk, so that's an
  option.
 
  I guess my question is what is the correct way to go about installing
   gentoo on a machine with these on board Intel adapters?
 
  [I can reinstall the whole system once I figure out what's going on.  I
   must have this machine working within 24 hours, though, hence Ubuntu
  looms
   on the horizon.]
 
 
  Alan Davis
 
  You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world,  but
   when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the
   bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what
   counts.
 
     Richard Feynman
 
 
 
  the same as always, You emerge your base system. Then kernel. Then X. X
  drivers. Graphics, Mouse, Keyboard. You can either use evdev or kbd for
  keyboard. I prefer the later one. Hal or not doesn't make much of a
  difference.
 
  The important thing is: after an X update you must reinstall the input
  drivers!
 
 


 --
 Alan Davis

 You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world,
 but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever
 about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's
 doing---that's what counts.

    Richard Feynman




[gentoo-user] Re: After yrs of silence... I need sound

2009-09-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

[...]

 Hoping some kind sole will take the time to provide a brief outline
 off the top of there head... how to get started and cut right to the
 chase in an hour or two.


[...]

Thanks too:
Arttu V.,  Dale, Mick, Joshua Murphy

That alsaconf is way cool... 




Re: [gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:53:05PM +0300, Penguin Lover Arttu V. squawked:
 On 9/7/09, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:19:09PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
  when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
  trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
  special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
  mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
  some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
  could someone here fix this?
 
  So your really should be trying to download
 
  http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.1.tar.gz
 
 My guess was that OP meant that Gentoo Mirrors don't seem to carry the
 file, even if it is still directly downloadable?
 
 Over here portage tries downloading it from mirrors first (naturally),
 gets 404s and then goes for the real source. So, maybe OP has a gentoo
 mirror available nearby (in network topology) and just wants to reduce
 wasted international traffic?

Ah, I didn't understand the OP correctly. I thought he was just
looking at the ebuild and trying to download the package manually. 

Hum, it looks like that on the mirrors, the file is stored
as 'download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz', which may cause a problem. I
think you should file a bug! Maybe tell them to change SRC_URI to
something like
  SRC_URI=http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?${P}.tar.gz
mirror://gentoo/download.pl%3f${P}.tar.gz
So the the link to the version on the mirror works. 

Also... another thought. Don't know if it works: 
I vaguely remember something in EAPI-2 that may fix this problem,

http://ciaranm.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/eapi-2-src_uri-arrows/

It may not get acted on just yet, but it maybe better for the future.
So perhaps you can try mentioning it in your bug :)

W
-- 
The whole thing is silly, but follow the next step and we'll move on.
~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1004 days, 13:26



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trim for ssds

2009-09-07 Thread Stroller


On 7 Sep 2009, at 00:07, walt wrote:

On 09/06/2009 02:21 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM_%28SSD_command%29


...How effective that is for extending the life of a SSD, I have no  
clue.


Uh, extending the life of the SSD isn't the purpose.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531p=10
(you really need to read the whole, LONG, article, starting at http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531 
 to fully understand how SSDs work  the point of trim)


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 September 2009 15:20:50 David Snider wrote:
 On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Xi Shen wrote:
  give. i remember while installing the server, a port 902 is opened by
  default for accessing the guest os. is it the port that the program
  expected? anyway, i tried with this port without luck.
 
 VMWare Server 2 did away with the console.

Oh no. Please tell me it isn't so.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-07 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   
 One thing [kde:4] definitely is not, is the next evolution of KDE-3.
 Comparisons with KDE-3 are going result in disappointment
 
 Well, that seems to condemn v4 out of hand :-) . If it can't compare
 favourably with its predecessor, what's it doing there at all?
   
 Read the post again. I said nothing about favourable, unfavourable or
 anything else like that.

 I only said that KDE4 is not KDE3 (doh...) so if you run KDE4 thinking
 you are going to get something like KDE3 you are going to be
 disappointed. It is not like KDE3, it is not built on KDE3, it is not an
 evolution of KDE3. It is different, and stands on it's own. Comparisons
 with KDE3 are unfair, sort of like comparing you with your father is
 unfair.
 

 The way I read your words is equally valid. If I compare a later version 
 with its predecessor I don't expect to be disappointed.

   
 I'm working quite hard at getting used to it (it's even the default
 grub choice), but it's uphill all the way.
   
 Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
 The dm does that.
 

 Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate 
 installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I want 
 with grub entries.

   

Could you post your grub.conf?  I'd like to see how you do that. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread David Snider


On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:


VMWare Server 2 did away with the console.


Oh no. Please tell me it isn't so.

--  
It's so, buut you can vnc in to all your machines to watch  
them boot, yadda yadd by adding the below text to the .vmx files...


RemoteDisplay.vnc.enabled = TRUE
RemoteDisplay.vnc.port = 5911
RemoteDisplay.vnc.password = your awesome password here




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 September 2009 17:39:06 Dale wrote:
 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
  The dm does that.
 
  Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate
  installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I want
  with grub entries.
 
 Could you post your grub.conf?  I'd like to see how you do that.

Well, I'd do it with a customized init that launches a dm preset to a specific 
xsession. Or selects a specific .xinitrc.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 07 September 2009 17:39:06 Dale wrote:
   
 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 
 On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   

   
 Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
 The dm does that.
 
 Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate
 installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I want
 with grub entries.
   
 Could you post your grub.conf?  I'd like to see how you do that.
 

 Well, I'd do it with a customized init that launches a dm preset to a 
 specific 
 xsession. Or selects a specific .xinitrc.

   

It just seems like a hard way to do it is all.  The login screens that I
have seen allow you to just select which dm you want without even having
to worry about it when you boot up.  I would hate to know that he
reboots to change dm's.  That would be overkill.

First time for everything I guess.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kon Colivas is working again on a new scheduler for Desktop/Multimedia/Gaming PCs

2009-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 09/06/2009 03:43 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 09/06/2009 02:23 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag 06 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 06 September 2009 00:48:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Also, have you considered that you got it all backwards?  The kernel
  configuration tells you that for lower latencies, you should use
  1000Hz and PREEMPT.  It even says Desktop right there.  Why should
  I take your word over that of the kernel devs who actually wrote
  that code?
 
  low latency means bad throughput and that hurts IO.
 
  The average desktop user on Linux needs low latency. To get that, one
  must sacrifice some throughput efficiency.
 
  and then complain, that IO hurts?
 
  No one complains that IO hurts.  Perhaps you aren't even reading.  The
  complaints are about GUI stalls.  Not slow IO.
 
  yeah, and most GUI stalls happen with big io. ooops.
 
  btw, I think, I am an average user, doing the average stuff, and I am
  pretty happy with 'voluntary preemption'.
 
  We are not.
 
  'we'.
 
  have you considered that there is a large population of users whose
  needs and workload are totally different from yours and therefore
  require something completely different to you?
 
  yes, but I consider my workload average. Surfing the web, watching tv,
  watching movies with xine/vlc/mplayer. Listening to music with amarok
  and alsaplayer. Typing stuff. Sometimes skype. Burning a dvd once in a
  while. vegastrike, ut2004, if I want to play a game.
 
  See? Average.
 
  Now 32 sound streams in ardour (or whatever tool you use for that),
  that is hardly 'average'.
 
  Doesn't matter if it's not average.  What does matter is that Linux is
  not up to the task while Windows and OS X are.
 
  and windows has a completly different, gui centric architecture. Oh, and
  for serious audio stuff you need special low latency drivers. Humpf.
 
  So what was your point again? Windows needs special drivers for serious
  audio stuff - and people are complaining that they have to turn on rt in
  linux for the same tasks?
 
 I don't even know why I keep talking to you.  You don't seem to *want*
 to understand.  It's not about special drivers.  Or specialized audio
 processing.  It's about my 3D desktop cube getting skippy sometimes
 while video is playing.  It's about the transparency effect applied
 while moving mplayer resulting in some frame skipping.  It's about a
 slight pause while scrolling a web page if I have an emerge running.
 About the mouse freezing for about 0.1 seconds once in a while while
 doing the same.
 
 Can't you understand, or don't you want to understand?
 


http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125227082723350w=2

seems like BFS is even crappier than CFS.
---

I saw really bad interactivity in the BFS test here - the system 
was starved for as long as the test ran. I stopped the tests at 8 
loops - the system was unusable and i was getting IO timeouts due 
to the scheduling lag:

 sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code
 sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_TIMEOUT
 end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 81949243
 Aborting journal on device sda2.
 ext3_abort called.
 EXT3-fs error (device sda2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal
 Remounting filesystem read-only


oh great. BFS really rocks!

---
And unfortunately this is where it ends for now, since BFS doesn't boot
on the two boxes I tried. It hard hangs right after disk detection. But
the latency numbers look pretty appalling for CFQ, so it's a bit of a
shame that I did not get to compare. I'll try again later with a newer
revision, when available.


sounds great. A system not booting is obviously a system not being laggy.


And pissing of Jens Axboe? Really smart move. 


At least you posted your little success story. I hope, you will also be 
willing to test patches, if Ingo Molnar would ask for it.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kon Colivas is working again on a new scheduler for Desktop/Multimedia/Gaming PCs

2009-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 September 2009 21:58:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  I don't even know why I keep talking to you.  You don't seem to want
  to understand.  It's not about special drivers.  Or specialized audio
  processing.  It's about my 3D desktop cube getting skippy sometimes
  while video is playing.  It's about the transparency effect applied
  while moving mplayer resulting in some frame skipping.  It's about a
  slight pause while scrolling a web page if I have an emerge running.
  About the mouse freezing for about 0.1 seconds once in a while while
  doing the same.
  
  Can't you understand, or don't you want to understand?
  
 
 http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=125227082723350w=2
 

Maybe you fellows should stop the pissing contest. It's going nowhere.

Con has identified a need that impacts his life and wrote some code that 
scratched his itch. So it's buggy - oh wow, glory be, like that has never 
happened before. The code probably ran on hardware Con doesn't own. Let's 
compare this state of affairs with Linux itself for the first week after it's 
first public release. See where this is going? 

Bugs happen, they get reported and often fixed. Code improves. These patches 
have been out there for 7 days. Leave them be and let them mature. Utterly and 
completely condemning a chunk of code that is 7 days old is just infantile and 
shows a lack of comprehension of the coding process. Or a hidden agenda. 

No-one here can possibly know what benefits BFS will bring as it matures. But 
utterly and completely dismissing it out of hand is just plain stupid.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Virtualization

2009-09-07 Thread walt

On 09/07/2009 02:02 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Saturday 05 September 2009 23:06:37 walt wrote:


I don't use vmware but I do use virtualbox every day and I love it.
It's extremely fast even compared to kvm, which I also use on my newest
machine with hardware virtualization support.

I suggest you fetch the latest stable binary package from:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
(choose the All distributions package) and run it, which will also
build and install the vbox kernel modules automatically.

It's very easy, quick, and simple. It even comes with an uninstall
script if you don't like it.


I tried it, but on my box it can't detect either of the DVD drives, so I
can't install a client.


Hm, never tried that.  The reason is that I've always just used an iso file
'mounted' on the virtual machine's CD/DVD player to install a guest.  Most
open-source OS's supply the install disk in the form of an iso file, and
to install Windows I create an iso file from the original CD/DVD first.







[gentoo-user] Re: trim for ssds

2009-09-07 Thread walt

On 09/07/2009 08:00 AM, Stroller wrote:


On 7 Sep 2009, at 00:07, walt wrote:

On 09/06/2009 02:21 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM_%28SSD_command%29


...How effective that is for extending the life of a SSD, I have no clue.


Uh, extending the life of the SSD isn't the purpose.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531p=10
(you really need to read the whole, LONG, article, starting at
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531 to fully
understand how SSDs work  the point of trim)


Great article(s), and a fascinating website.  That makes two good
sites I've discovered in this one short thread.




Re: [gentoo-user] mp3splt-gtk, hearts and hwinfo fails to emerge

2009-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK.  It finished recompiling boost and Scribus.  Both hearts and
 mp3splt-gtk still fail with the same error as before.

 Any ideas?

Ok, let's first take back the hearts compiles on amd64. It compiled.
Once. On the absolutely-minimal, stable-only amd64 chroot I use when
testing weird things (and then immediately roll back with emerge
--depclean).

On x86 and more usable amd64 desktop setup I get a similar error as
you did. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is bug #273560 -- which
will need a patch.

mp3splt-gtk, however, compiles fine on two desktop amd64 setups. I
cannot test it on x86 right now, hopefully tomorrow I'll again
remember to reboot to 32-bits and try some more. Maybe even get
something done for the hearts, if the hints in the bug report are
sufficient for fixing it.

-- 
Arttu V.



[gentoo-user] hal and keyboard layout switching

2009-09-07 Thread Pat
Hello,

I want to setup hal to enable me switching between two keyboard layouts.
My original configuration in xorg.conf is:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc104
Option  XkbLayout us,cz
Option  XkbOptions grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:num
EndSection

I've searched web and got some information, but I'm doing something wrong.

I've created file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi and configure it like:
device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringpc104/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringus,cz/merge
merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions
type=stringgrp:shifts_toggle/merge
/match
/device

I have installed hal and running hald. The xorg-server version is 1.5.3-r6.

Thanks for help

Pat



Re: [gentoo-user] mp3splt-gtk, hearts and hwinfo fails to emerge

2009-09-07 Thread Dale
Arttu V. wrote:
 On 9/7/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 OK.  It finished recompiling boost and Scribus.  Both hearts and
 mp3splt-gtk still fail with the same error as before.

 Any ideas?
 

 Ok, let's first take back the hearts compiles on amd64. It compiled.
 Once. On the absolutely-minimal, stable-only amd64 chroot I use when
 testing weird things (and then immediately roll back with emerge
 --depclean).

 On x86 and more usable amd64 desktop setup I get a similar error as
 you did. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is bug #273560 -- which
 will need a patch.

 mp3splt-gtk, however, compiles fine on two desktop amd64 setups. I
 cannot test it on x86 right now, hopefully tomorrow I'll again
 remember to reboot to 32-bits and try some more. Maybe even get
 something done for the hearts, if the hints in the bug report are
 sufficient for fixing it.

   

Yea, hearts is already installed but if I needed to reinstall for some
reason, I would be in a mess.  I just hope they will fix it since it is
KDE 3.

I could send mp3splt-gtk to the dustbin for a while, I guess.  Just hope
no one else needs it.  ;-)

Thanks for the help tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: Optimizations for low-bandwidth web browsing?

2009-09-07 Thread Grant
 I need to optimize web browsing for a slow cell phone data connection.
  I'd like to browse faster and use less data ($).  I've installed
 ImgLikeOpera for Firefox which is great at selectively blocking
 images, and I'm wondering if there's anything else I can do?

 - Grant

 Can anyone offer advice for IMAP?  I'm using Thunderbird and it's slow
 and data-heavy.

 - Grant

Has anyone tried trojita (in portage)?

http://trojita.flaska.net/

It says:

Support for bandwidth-saving mode aimed at mobile users with
expensive connection

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: sSMTP write error...?

2009-09-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:12:21PM +0200, Jarry wrote:

 I'm just checking /var/log/messages and I have found a few entries
 like this:

 2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix sSMTP[7233]: 421 4.3.0 collect:
  Cannot write ./dfn83HUEom007670 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=209):
  Permission denied
 2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix )

 I suppose it comes from mail-mta/ssmtp, but I do not understand.
 Some persmission problem? Where does ssmtp want to write?

Yes, it's a bit cryptic. I wonder if there is a bug in ssmtp itself.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht



RE: [gentoo-user] Re: sSMTP write error...?

2009-09-07 Thread Adam Carter
  2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix sSMTP[7233]: 421 4.3.0 collect:
   Cannot write ./dfn83HUEom007670 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=209):
   Permission denied
  2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix )
 
  I suppose it comes from mail-mta/ssmtp, but I do not understand.
  Some persmission problem? Where does ssmtp want to write?

You could try 'strace -p 7233' to see if it shows where the attempted write is 
occuring. Uid=0 means root and I don't imagine there's many places root cant 
write.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread Xi Shen
yeah, i can connect to the web; but if i cannot connect to the vms
through the console, i cannot see how they boot.


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM, David Sniderdsni...@thesniderpad.com wrote:

 On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Xi Shen wrote:

 give. i remember while installing the server, a port 902 is opened by
 default for accessing the guest os. is it the port that the program
 expected? anyway, i tried with this port without luck.

 VMWare Server 2 did away with the console.  Try connecting your web browser
 to https://localhost:8333





-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-server-console cannot connect to vm

2009-09-07 Thread Xi Shen
i was just thinking that if i cannot get the console work, i will turn
to use vnc.
thanks for your tips ;)


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, David Sniderdsni...@thesniderpad.com wrote:

 On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 VMWare Server 2 did away with the console.

 Oh no. Please tell me it isn't so.

 --

 It's so, buut you can vnc in to all your machines to watch them
 boot, yadda yadd by adding the below text to the .vmx files...

 RemoteDisplay.vnc.enabled = TRUE
 RemoteDisplay.vnc.port = 5911
 RemoteDisplay.vnc.password = your awesome password here






-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84



[gentoo-user] mythtv w/ winTV 1600 (ATSC support)

2009-09-07 Thread Neal Hogan
I posted the stuff below on the mythtvtalk forum and it's been a few
days and I've heard nothing. I've also searched  for answers
elsewhere, but no go. Since I'm running my setup under gentoo, I
thought I try this list. I hope you don't mind.

I recently acquired a new Hauppauge WinTV 1600 and have successfully
gotten the analog side working with the analog channels (1-99). That
is, I can plug my (Comcast) cable from the wall to the tuner card's
analog input and get the basic cable channels.

However, the whole reason for getting tv tuner card and mythtv was to
record japanTV, which is beyond channel 99 and requires a set top box
to watch it on the TV. I've read the installation instructions for the
ATSC input of the card but I'm having problems and am aware of the IR
blaster option.

I suppose the main problem . . . the one causing the other problems
like not getting any channels is that mythtv is not seeing my card.
When I go to configure the capture card there is not DVB DTV card type
offered, which suggests to me that card is not being seen.

Suggestions?

I have posted below some various info, but before that I want to ask
one more thing, if all were fine, should it be the case that I plug
the cable from the wall to the ATSC input (i.e., not through the set
top box) and it just work (as if it were the set top box)?

Thanks for your time.
-neal

russell ~ # uname -a
Linux russell 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Sun Aug 30 04:58:43 CDT 2009
i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


russell ~ # dmesg | grep cx18
cx18: Start initialization, version 1.2.0
cx18-0: Initializing card 0
cx18-0: Autodetected Hauppauge card
cx18 :00:11.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKA] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
cx18-0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
cx18-0: cx23418 revision 0101 (B)
cx18-0: Autodetected Hauppauge HVR-1600
cx18-0: Simultaneous Digital and Analog TV capture supported
IRQ 11/cx18-0: IRQF_DISABLED is not guaranteed on shared IRQs
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx18 i2c driver #0-1)
cs5345 1-004c: chip found @ 0x98 (cx18 i2c driver #0-0)
cx18-0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG (64 x 32 kB)
DVB: registering new adapter (cx1
cx18-0: DVB Frontend registered
cx18-0: Registered DVB adapter0 for TS (32 x 32 kB)
cx18-0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (16 x 128 kB)
cx18-0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (20 x 51984 bytes)
cx18-0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio (256 x 4 kB)
cx18-0: Initialized card: Hauppauge HVR-1600
cx18: End initialization
russell ~ # dmesg | grep DVB
DVB: registering new adapter (cx1
DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Samsung S5H1409 QAM/8VSB Frontend)...
cx18-0: DVB Frontend registered
cx18-0: Registered DVB adapter0 for TS (32 x 32 kB)

lspci -v output:
00:11.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23418 Single-Chip
MPEG-2 Encoder with Integrated Analog Video/Broadcast Audio Decoder
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Device 7444
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
Memory at f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data ?
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: cx18
Kernel modules: cx18



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optimizations for low-bandwidth web browsing?

2009-09-07 Thread Stroller


On 8 Sep 2009, at 01:00, Grant wrote:

...
Has anyone tried trojita (in portage)?


Someone here must be trying it!

The official screenshot shows messages from this list:
http://trojita.flaska.net/screenshots.html

Stroller.