Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be part of gentoolkit tho. Just the q command has more than a dozen different things it does. equery can do a lot too but some say it has some accuracy problems at times. It works for my little simple stuff tho. Actually, /usr/bin/q belongs to app-portage/portage-utils, not app-portage/gentoolkit or sys-apps/portage. :) Thanks. I wasn't sure which package it belonged to. I had forgot about portage-utils. Still a good command for someone to look into tho. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild and how to clear the list
Hi, I recently did some upgrading which lead to some other packages having to be rebuilt. I have one that can't build and hasn't been able to for ages so I assume it isn't going to be fixed. It is hearts which is pulled in my kde-meta. This rebuild also forced me to upgrade kbackup which doesn't work with DVD but only CD sizes. My question is, since the hearts package can't build, how do I tell emerge to stop buggin me about it? Is there a way to clear the list? Of course, a fix for hearts and kbackup would be wonderful too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild and how to clear the list
On Sunday 11 October 2009 09:45:08 Dale wrote: Hi, I recently did some upgrading which lead to some other packages having to be rebuilt. I have one that can't build and hasn't been able to for ages so I assume it isn't going to be fixed. It is hearts which is pulled in my kde-meta. This rebuild also forced me to upgrade kbackup which doesn't work with DVD but only CD sizes. My question is, since the hearts package can't build, how do I tell emerge to stop buggin me about it? Is there a way to clear the list? Of course, a fix for hearts and kbackup would be wonderful too. hearts and kbackup are not pulled in by kde-meta (they *may* have been in the past but no longer). Just unmerge then and find alternatives. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Checksum error
Hi,
I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding
of the several packages the process failed with
Downloading
'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4'
--2009-10-11 10:57:48--
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4
Resolving www.oracle.com... 80.157.150.10, 80.157.150.33
Connecting to www.oracle.com|80.157.150.10|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5647 (5.5K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4'
100%[]
5,647 --.-K/s in 0.04s
2009-10-11 10:57:48 (135 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4'
saved [5647/5647]
('Filesize does not match recorded size', 5647L, 5500)
!!! Fetched file: patch.4.7.25.4 VERIFY FAILED!
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 5647
!!! Expected: 5500
Refetching... File renamed to
'/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4._checksum_failure_.B3kSP2'
How can I proceed?
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
mcc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Checksum error
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding
of the several packages the process failed with
Downloading
'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4'
--2009-10-11 10:57:48--
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/patch.4.7.25.4
Resolving www.oracle.com... 80.157.150.10, 80.157.150.33
Connecting to www.oracle.com|80.157.150.10|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5647 (5.5K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4'
100%[]
5,647 --.-K/s in 0.04s
2009-10-11 10:57:48 (135 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4'
saved [5647/5647]
('Filesize does not match recorded size', 5647L, 5500)
!!! Fetched file: patch.4.7.25.4 VERIFY FAILED!
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 5647
!!! Expected: 5500
Refetching... File renamed to
'/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4._checksum_failure_.B3kSP2'
How can I proceed?
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
mcc
You may want to re-sync. Sometimes that works and is easy enough to do.
I guess files sort of cross paths and don't match. Otherwise, check man
emerge. There is a way to redigest the file. Only do this if you trust
the source tho. The reason for that check is to make sure you get a
unaltered file.
You could also try downloading from a different server too. Could be
that the file is bad or corrupt in some way.
Dale
:-) :-)
[gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?
I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot
conflict:
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
sys-auth/consolekit:0
('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
sys-auth/consolekit[-policykit] required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2', 'nomerge')
(and 5 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-auth/consolekit[policykit] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'gnome-base/gdm-2.28.0', 'merge')
(and 5 more)
Any way to resolve this so I can get the gnome 2.28 overlay to come in?
I know I am on the bleeding edge here!
Thanks much.
--
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How do
you spend it?
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cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Checksum error
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
I am currently doing a python-updater run. While the rebuilding
of the several packages the process failed with
Downloading
'http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.
7.25/patch.4.7.25.4'
--2009-10-11 10:57:48--
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/db/update/4.7.25/pat
ch.4.7.25.4 Resolving www.oracle.com... 80.157.150.10, 80.157.150.33
Connecting to www.oracle.com|80.157.150.10|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5647 (5.5K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4'
100%[=
===] 5,647 --.-K/s in
0.04s
2009-10-11 10:57:48 (135 KB/s) -
`/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4' saved [5647/5647]
('Filesize does not match recorded size', 5647L, 5500)
!!! Fetched file: patch.4.7.25.4 VERIFY FAILED!
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 5647
!!! Expected: 5500
Refetching... File renamed to
'/usr/portage/distfiles/patch.4.7.25.4._checksum_failure_.B3kSP2'
How can I proceed?
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
mcc
sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it
sometimes a dowload is just corrupted.
sometimes a dev screwed up
what you can do:
remove the file, retry.
resync, remove the file and retry
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working
Mick schrieb: If in addition you use the --verbose and or --debug options you should see all that dbus has to tell you. Such options don't exist. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean 'package'? I tried doing my own investigation. Googling software packet returns mostly software about network monitoring. Googling software package returns just what you'd expect. Yet I've heard a few people lately describe software as a packet. Did these people phonetically mis-hear package as packet? Is this something new? Sometimes I think to correct these people but perhaps I'm the one who needs correcting?
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean 'package'? I tried doing my own investigation. Googling software packet returns mostly software about network monitoring. Googling software package returns just what you'd expect. Yet I've heard a few people lately describe software as a packet. Did these people phonetically mis-hear package as packet? Is this something new? Sometimes I think to correct these people but perhaps I'm the one who needs correcting? Paket = packet Paket = package too lazy to remember which one is what.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean 'package'? I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 05:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot
conflict:
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
sys-auth/consolekit:0
('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
sys-auth/consolekit[-policykit] required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2', 'nomerge')
(and 5 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-auth/consolekit[policykit] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'gnome-base/gdm-2.28.0', 'merge')
(and 5 more)
Any way to resolve this so I can get the gnome 2.28 overlay to come in?
I know I am on the bleeding edge here!
Check your use flags. hal (base portage) wants consolkit *without* the
policykit USE flag because it was installed with -policykit.
gdm (overlay) is apparently being installed with the consolekit USE flag
and so it requires consolekit *with* the policykit USE flag.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some reasonable explanation. Thanks for the education. -a
[gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict on consolkit -- how to resolve?
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 05:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
I am trying to upgrade to the gnome overlay and I get the following slot
conflict:
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
sys-auth/consolekit:0
('installed', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
sys-auth/consolekit[-policykit] required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2', 'nomerge')
(and 5 more)
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.1', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-auth/consolekit[policykit] required by ('ebuild', '/',
'gnome-base/gdm-2.28.0', 'merge')
(and 5 more)
Any way to resolve this so I can get the gnome 2.28 overlay to come in?
I know I am on the bleeding edge here!
Check your use flags. hal (base portage) wants consolkit *without* the
policykit USE flag because it was installed with -policykit.
gdm (overlay) is apparently being installed with the consolekit USE flag
and so it requires consolekit *with* the policykit USE flag.
OK, that did it, thanks very much -- just goes to show you know less
than you think you know.
--
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How do
you spend it?
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cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:30:06 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. kde:4 won't work as the package kde does exist but there is no SLOT=4 for it (it's the old monolithic package for =kde-3.5.9). You have to list each package you don't want individually - the reverse of what bleeding edge users have to do to unmask the latest greates packages as they hit the tree. Easiest is to use autounmask but send the output to package.mask. You could also use a combination of find $PORTDIR and sed, but that's painful. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some reasonable explanation. Thanks for the education. Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some reasonable explanation. Thanks for the education. Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and computers) which is routable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a 'package of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or earnings), crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc. Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context in which it is mentioned is not known. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:50:37 Mick wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some reasonable explanation. Thanks for the education. Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and computers) which is routable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a 'package of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or earnings), crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc. Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context in which it is mentioned is not known. Yes, I know all that. You missed the in-joke :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Mick schrieb: If in addition you use the --verbose and or --debug options you should see all that dbus has to tell you. Such options don't exist. Huh? They seem to exist here (although the script calls them flags): = # /etc/init.d/dbus Usage: dbus [ flags ] options Normal Options: start stop restart pause zap Default init.d options. Additional Options: reload Extra options supported by this init.d script. Flags: --quiet Suppress output to stdout, except if: 1) It is a warning, then output to stdout 2) It is an error, then output to stderr --verbose Output extra information --debug Output debug information --nocolor Suppress the use of colors Configuration files: /etc/conf.d/dbus/etc/rc.conf For more info, please run '/etc/init.d/dbus help'. = Running it with --debug gives loads of info: = # /etc/init.d/dbus --debug status + [[ '' != \y\e\s ]] + source /sbin/functions.sh ++ RC_GOT_FUNCTIONS=yes ++ [[ -f /etc/conf.d/rc ]] ++ source /etc/conf.d/rc [snip...] + service_starting dbus + test_service_state dbus starting + [[ -z dbus ]] + [[ -z starting ]] + local f=/var/lib/init.d/starting/dbus + [[ ! -x /etc/init.d/dbus ]] + [[ -e /var/lib/init.d/starting/dbus ]] + service_started dbus + test_service_state dbus started + [[ -z dbus ]] + [[ -z started ]] + local f=/var/lib/init.d/started/dbus + [[ ! -x /etc/init.d/dbus ]] + [[ -e /var/lib/init.d/started/dbus ]] + return 1 + svc_stop + local x= mydep= mydeps= retval=0 + servicelist=() + local -a servicelist + is_runlevel_stop + [[ -d /var/lib/init.d/softscripts.new ]] + service_stopped dbus + [[ -z dbus ]] [snip...] = HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE password dialogs stopped working
Am Samstag 10 Oktober 2009 09:41:52 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: I suspect that it has something to do with recent QT update to 4.5.3, but I'm not sure. Downgraded QT to 4.5.2 and everything works fine again. Will file some bugs for this... Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
Am Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009 13:30:06 schrieb Peter Humphrey: What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? When using paludis, that would be =kde-base/*:4.3 or more general: =category/*:slot Don't know wether this works the same with portage, though. HTH... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. since everything kde depends on kdelibs you could mask that
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be part of gentoolkit tho. Just the q command has more than a dozen different things it does. equery can do a lot too but some say it has some accuracy problems at times. It works for my little simple stuff tho. Actually, /usr/bin/q belongs to app-portage/portage-utils, not app-portage/gentoolkit or sys-apps/portage. :) Thanks. I wasn't sure which package it belonged to. I had forgot about portage-utils. Still a good command for someone to look into tho. When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they all disappear, or at least recede. The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:23:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since everything kde depends on kdelibs you could mask that I tried that, but of course the problem is that I get a whole load of errors because things that want to be installed can't be. I need to know how to prevent those things being installed at all. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
James Ausmus wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan Callen wrote: Dale wrote: I would urge you to check into the q command and equery. I !think! the q command is part of portage. It may be part of gentoolkit tho. Just the q command has more than a dozen different things it does. equery can do a lot too but some say it has some accuracy problems at times. It works for my little simple stuff tho. Actually, /usr/bin/q belongs to app-portage/portage-utils, not app-portage/gentoolkit or sys-apps/portage. :) Thanks. I wasn't sure which package it belonged to. I had forgot about portage-utils. Still a good command for someone to look into tho. When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-) I knew how to do it but I *thought* it would return a lot of hits from anything containing the letter q. Later on when I had a little bit of time to sit here, I tried it. It only returned the one result. Still sort of surprised about that. I actually just ran equery b q . Neato ! It has a microscope and read my mind. o_O Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 09:25 -0700, James Ausmus wrote: When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) Or use 'q' to find itself: $ q file `which q` app-portage/portage-utils (/usr/bin/q)
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Justin schrieb: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Hi, This is OT: I am sure I don't have the best English and I do a lot of faults. But in Germany *everybody* believes to speak English. Pleas correct things like packet / package. Bad translation can cause a lot of problems. (Also one can easily see if some news is only translated from English or if the network has a man down wherever.) Porsche for example told their employees not to use English for their work. Person A translated something from German into English and person B had to do it vis versa and half of the content was lost somewhere on the way. Anyway this will become very OT ... kh
Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote: nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot of problems. Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have the same issue. I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the Linux version of Mathematica. You can always try revdep-rebuild. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Mick wrote: Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and computers) which is routable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a 'package of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or earnings), crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc. Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context in which it is mentioned is not known. Errrm .. no ambiguity there. That is just an illustration of it's use: a packet of [data] [money (common use pay packet)] [data] [crisps] [condoms], [chewing gum] [etc..] Be lucky, Neil http://www.neilwalker.ws
[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?
On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. Portage unfortunately doesn't allow wildcards in the package name of atoms. But you can install KDE4 on one machine and then use: qlist -ISLC kde-base/*:4.3 to generate a list to put in package.mask in the machines you don't want KDE4. On my machine, the above command results in the following (it should at least cut down on the rest of the packages you need to mask): kde-base/ark:4.3 kde-base/dolphin:4.3 kde-base/drkonqi:4.3 kde-base/gwenview:4.3 kde-base/kamera:4.3 kde-base/kappfinder:4.3 kde-base/kapptemplate:4.3 kde-base/kate:4.3 kde-base/kcalc:4.3 kde-base/kcheckpass:4.3 kde-base/kcminit:4.3 kde-base/kcmshell:4.3 kde-base/kcolorchooser:4.3 kde-base/kcontrol:4.3 kde-base/kde-env:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-desktopthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-styles:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-cursors:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu-icons:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-startkde:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebugdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer:4.3 kde-base/kdelibs:4.3 kde-base/kdepasswd:4.3 kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.3 kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.3 kde-base/kdesu:4.3 kde-base/kdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdm:4.3 kde-base/kdnssd:4.3 kde-base/keditbookmarks:4.3 kde-base/keditfiletype:4.3 kde-base/kephal:4.3 kde-base/kfile:4.3 kde-base/kfind:4.3 kde-base/kfmclient:4.3 kde-base/kgamma:4.3 kde-base/kget:4.3 kde-base/kglobalaccel:4.3 kde-base/khelpcenter:4.3 kde-base/khotkeys:4.3 kde-base/kiconfinder:4.3 kde-base/kinfocenter:4.3 kde-base/kioclient:4.3 kde-base/klipper:4.3 kde-base/kmenuedit:4.3 kde-base/kmimetypefinder:4.3 kde-base/knetattach:4.3 kde-base/knewstuff:4.3 kde-base/knotify:4.3 kde-base/kolourpaint:4.3 kde-base/konqueror:4.3 kde-base/konsole:4.3 kde-base/kpasswdserver:4.3 kde-base/kquitapp:4.3 kde-base/krdc:4.3 kde-base/kreadconfig:4.3 kde-base/krosspython:4.3 kde-base/kruler:4.3 kde-base/krunner:4.3 kde-base/ksaneplugin:4.3 kde-base/kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/ksmserver:4.3 kde-base/ksnapshot:4.3 kde-base/ksplash:4.3 kde-base/kstart:4.3 kde-base/kstartupconfig:4.3 kde-base/kstyles:4.3 kde-base/ksysguard:4.3 kde-base/ksystraycmd:4.3 kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3 kde-base/ktraderclient:4.3 kde-base/kuiserver:4.3 kde-base/kurifilter-plugins:4.3 kde-base/kwalletd:4.3 kde-base/kwin:4.3 kde-base/kwrite:4.3 kde-base/kwrited:4.3 kde-base/libkcddb:4.3 kde-base/libkdcraw:4.3 kde-base/libkexiv2:4.3 kde-base/libkipi:4.3 kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3 kde-base/libkonq:4.3 kde-base/libksane:4.3 kde-base/libkworkspace:4.3 kde-base/libplasmaclock:4.3 kde-base/libtaskmanager:4.3 kde-base/nsplugins:4.3 kde-base/okular:4.3 kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3 kde-base/phonon-kde:4.3 kde-base/plasma-apps:4.3 kde-base/plasma-runtime:4.3 kde-base/plasma-workspace:4.3 kde-base/powerdevil:4.3 kde-base/renamedlg-plugins:4.3 kde-base/solid:4.3 kde-base/solid-hardware:4.3 kde-base/solidautoeject:4.3 kde-base/soliduiserver:4.3 kde-base/svgpart:4.3 kde-base/systemsettings:4.3 kde-base/thumbnailers:4.3
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Paket = packet ; Paket = package Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' ! My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G 'Pack', while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. In English, a 'packet' calls to mind something in an envelope, eg a letter; 'package' brings a picture of something tied up with string, ie a parcel. In computer English, a 'package' is eg Gentoo's 'app-arch/bzip2-1.0.5-r1'; a 'packet' is a fragment of a file sent through the Internet, different packets possibly taking different routes to their destination, where they are reassembled into the complete file. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
091011 Philip Webb wrote: E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. Sorry, typo : that sb 'kleines Paket' or 'kleine Pack'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?
Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3 package.keyword list and append that to package.mask, since it uses the same slot format? Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. Portage unfortunately doesn't allow wildcards in the package name of atoms. But you can install KDE4 on one machine and then use: qlist -ISLC kde-base/*:4.3 to generate a list to put in package.mask in the machines you don't want KDE4. On my machine, the above command results in the following (it should at least cut down on the rest of the packages you need to mask): kde-base/ark:4.3 kde-base/dolphin:4.3 kde-base/drkonqi:4.3 kde-base/gwenview:4.3 kde-base/kamera:4.3 kde-base/kappfinder:4.3 kde-base/kapptemplate:4.3 kde-base/kate:4.3 kde-base/kcalc:4.3 kde-base/kcheckpass:4.3 kde-base/kcminit:4.3 kde-base/kcmshell:4.3 kde-base/kcolorchooser:4.3 kde-base/kcontrol:4.3 kde-base/kde-env:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-desktopthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-styles:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-cursors:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu-icons:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-startkde:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebugdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer:4.3 kde-base/kdelibs:4.3 kde-base/kdepasswd:4.3 kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.3 kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.3 kde-base/kdesu:4.3 kde-base/kdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdm:4.3 kde-base/kdnssd:4.3 kde-base/keditbookmarks:4.3 kde-base/keditfiletype:4.3 kde-base/kephal:4.3 kde-base/kfile:4.3 kde-base/kfind:4.3 kde-base/kfmclient:4.3 kde-base/kgamma:4.3 kde-base/kget:4.3 kde-base/kglobalaccel:4.3 kde-base/khelpcenter:4.3 kde-base/khotkeys:4.3 kde-base/kiconfinder:4.3 kde-base/kinfocenter:4.3 kde-base/kioclient:4.3 kde-base/klipper:4.3 kde-base/kmenuedit:4.3 kde-base/kmimetypefinder:4.3 kde-base/knetattach:4.3 kde-base/knewstuff:4.3 kde-base/knotify:4.3 kde-base/kolourpaint:4.3 kde-base/konqueror:4.3 kde-base/konsole:4.3 kde-base/kpasswdserver:4.3 kde-base/kquitapp:4.3 kde-base/krdc:4.3 kde-base/kreadconfig:4.3 kde-base/krosspython:4.3 kde-base/kruler:4.3 kde-base/krunner:4.3 kde-base/ksaneplugin:4.3 kde-base/kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/ksmserver:4.3 kde-base/ksnapshot:4.3 kde-base/ksplash:4.3 kde-base/kstart:4.3 kde-base/kstartupconfig:4.3 kde-base/kstyles:4.3 kde-base/ksysguard:4.3 kde-base/ksystraycmd:4.3 kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3 kde-base/ktraderclient:4.3 kde-base/kuiserver:4.3 kde-base/kurifilter-plugins:4.3 kde-base/kwalletd:4.3 kde-base/kwin:4.3 kde-base/kwrite:4.3 kde-base/kwrited:4.3 kde-base/libkcddb:4.3 kde-base/libkdcraw:4.3 kde-base/libkexiv2:4.3 kde-base/libkipi:4.3 kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3 kde-base/libkonq:4.3 kde-base/libksane:4.3 kde-base/libkworkspace:4.3 kde-base/libplasmaclock:4.3 kde-base/libtaskmanager:4.3 kde-base/nsplugins:4.3 kde-base/okular:4.3 kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3 kde-base/phonon-kde:4.3 kde-base/plasma-apps:4.3 kde-base/plasma-runtime:4.3 kde-base/plasma-workspace:4.3 kde-base/powerdevil:4.3 kde-base/renamedlg-plugins:4.3 kde-base/solid:4.3 kde-base/solid-hardware:4.3 kde-base/solidautoeject:4.3 kde-base/soliduiserver:4.3 kde-base/svgpart:4.3 kde-base/systemsettings:4.3 kde-base/thumbnailers:4.3
[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?
From where? On 10/11/2009 10:58 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3 package.keyword list and append that to package.mask, since it uses the same slot format? Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. Portage unfortunately doesn't allow wildcards in the package name of atoms. But you can install KDE4 on one machine and then use: qlist -ISLC kde-base/*:4.3 to generate a list to put in package.mask in the machines you don't want KDE4. On my machine, the above command results in the following (it should at least cut down on the rest of the packages you need to mask): kde-base/ark:4.3 kde-base/dolphin:4.3 kde-base/drkonqi:4.3 kde-base/gwenview:4.3 kde-base/kamera:4.3 kde-base/kappfinder:4.3 kde-base/kapptemplate:4.3 kde-base/kate:4.3 kde-base/kcalc:4.3 kde-base/kcheckpass:4.3 kde-base/kcminit:4.3 kde-base/kcmshell:4.3 kde-base/kcolorchooser:4.3 kde-base/kcontrol:4.3 kde-base/kde-env:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-desktopthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-styles:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-cursors:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu-icons:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-startkde:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebugdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer:4.3 kde-base/kdelibs:4.3 kde-base/kdepasswd:4.3 kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.3 kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.3 kde-base/kdesu:4.3 kde-base/kdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdm:4.3 kde-base/kdnssd:4.3 kde-base/keditbookmarks:4.3 kde-base/keditfiletype:4.3 kde-base/kephal:4.3 kde-base/kfile:4.3 kde-base/kfind:4.3 kde-base/kfmclient:4.3 kde-base/kgamma:4.3 kde-base/kget:4.3 kde-base/kglobalaccel:4.3 kde-base/khelpcenter:4.3 kde-base/khotkeys:4.3 kde-base/kiconfinder:4.3 kde-base/kinfocenter:4.3 kde-base/kioclient:4.3 kde-base/klipper:4.3 kde-base/kmenuedit:4.3 kde-base/kmimetypefinder:4.3 kde-base/knetattach:4.3 kde-base/knewstuff:4.3 kde-base/knotify:4.3 kde-base/kolourpaint:4.3 kde-base/konqueror:4.3 kde-base/konsole:4.3 kde-base/kpasswdserver:4.3 kde-base/kquitapp:4.3 kde-base/krdc:4.3 kde-base/kreadconfig:4.3 kde-base/krosspython:4.3 kde-base/kruler:4.3 kde-base/krunner:4.3 kde-base/ksaneplugin:4.3 kde-base/kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/ksmserver:4.3 kde-base/ksnapshot:4.3 kde-base/ksplash:4.3 kde-base/kstart:4.3 kde-base/kstartupconfig:4.3 kde-base/kstyles:4.3 kde-base/ksysguard:4.3 kde-base/ksystraycmd:4.3 kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3 kde-base/ktraderclient:4.3 kde-base/kuiserver:4.3 kde-base/kurifilter-plugins:4.3 kde-base/kwalletd:4.3 kde-base/kwin:4.3 kde-base/kwrite:4.3 kde-base/kwrited:4.3 kde-base/libkcddb:4.3 kde-base/libkdcraw:4.3 kde-base/libkexiv2:4.3 kde-base/libkipi:4.3 kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3 kde-base/libkonq:4.3 kde-base/libksane:4.3 kde-base/libkworkspace:4.3 kde-base/libplasmaclock:4.3 kde-base/libtaskmanager:4.3 kde-base/nsplugins:4.3 kde-base/okular:4.3 kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3 kde-base/phonon-kde:4.3 kde-base/plasma-apps:4.3 kde-base/plasma-runtime:4.3 kde-base/plasma-workspace:4.3 kde-base/powerdevil:4.3 kde-base/renamedlg-plugins:4.3 kde-base/solid:4.3 kde-base/solid-hardware:4.3 kde-base/solidautoeject:4.3 kde-base/soliduiserver:4.3 kde-base/svgpart:4.3 kde-base/systemsettings:4.3 kde-base/thumbnailers:4.3
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Igor Spiridonov wrote: Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE. Try 10.1, the are lots of bugs fixed. http://linuxcrazy.com/?q=node/77 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?
It could be manually downloaded from http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.keywords/kde-4.3.keywords;hb=master Nikos Chantziaras wrote: From where? On 10/11/2009 10:58 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: Couldn't you just grab the kde 4.3 package.keyword list and append that to package.mask, since it uses the same slot format? Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but not qt:4). What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version 4. Also, kde:4, which seems like the right thing to specify, is an invalid package atom according to eix. I can't see anything relevant in man pages or the gentoo kde configuration guide. Google hasn't helped me either. Portage unfortunately doesn't allow wildcards in the package name of atoms. But you can install KDE4 on one machine and then use: qlist -ISLC kde-base/*:4.3 to generate a list to put in package.mask in the machines you don't want KDE4. On my machine, the above command results in the following (it should at least cut down on the rest of the packages you need to mask): kde-base/ark:4.3 kde-base/dolphin:4.3 kde-base/drkonqi:4.3 kde-base/gwenview:4.3 kde-base/kamera:4.3 kde-base/kappfinder:4.3 kde-base/kapptemplate:4.3 kde-base/kate:4.3 kde-base/kcalc:4.3 kde-base/kcheckpass:4.3 kde-base/kcminit:4.3 kde-base/kcmshell:4.3 kde-base/kcolorchooser:4.3 kde-base/kcontrol:4.3 kde-base/kde-env:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-desktopthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-emoticons:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-iconthemes:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-sounds:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-styles:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-cursors:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-data:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-menu-icons:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-startkde:4.3 kde-base/kdebase-wallpapers:4.3 kde-base/kdebugdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-meta:4.3 kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer:4.3 kde-base/kdelibs:4.3 kde-base/kdepasswd:4.3 kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.3 kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.3 kde-base/kdesu:4.3 kde-base/kdialog:4.3 kde-base/kdm:4.3 kde-base/kdnssd:4.3 kde-base/keditbookmarks:4.3 kde-base/keditfiletype:4.3 kde-base/kephal:4.3 kde-base/kfile:4.3 kde-base/kfind:4.3 kde-base/kfmclient:4.3 kde-base/kgamma:4.3 kde-base/kget:4.3 kde-base/kglobalaccel:4.3 kde-base/khelpcenter:4.3 kde-base/khotkeys:4.3 kde-base/kiconfinder:4.3 kde-base/kinfocenter:4.3 kde-base/kioclient:4.3 kde-base/klipper:4.3 kde-base/kmenuedit:4.3 kde-base/kmimetypefinder:4.3 kde-base/knetattach:4.3 kde-base/knewstuff:4.3 kde-base/knotify:4.3 kde-base/kolourpaint:4.3 kde-base/konqueror:4.3 kde-base/konsole:4.3 kde-base/kpasswdserver:4.3 kde-base/kquitapp:4.3 kde-base/krdc:4.3 kde-base/kreadconfig:4.3 kde-base/krosspython:4.3 kde-base/kruler:4.3 kde-base/krunner:4.3 kde-base/ksaneplugin:4.3 kde-base/kscreensaver:4.3 kde-base/ksmserver:4.3 kde-base/ksnapshot:4.3 kde-base/ksplash:4.3 kde-base/kstart:4.3 kde-base/kstartupconfig:4.3 kde-base/kstyles:4.3 kde-base/ksysguard:4.3 kde-base/ksystraycmd:4.3 kde-base/ktimezoned:4.3 kde-base/ktraderclient:4.3 kde-base/kuiserver:4.3 kde-base/kurifilter-plugins:4.3 kde-base/kwalletd:4.3 kde-base/kwin:4.3 kde-base/kwrite:4.3 kde-base/kwrited:4.3 kde-base/libkcddb:4.3 kde-base/libkdcraw:4.3 kde-base/libkexiv2:4.3 kde-base/libkipi:4.3 kde-base/libknotificationitem:4.3 kde-base/libkonq:4.3 kde-base/libksane:4.3 kde-base/libkworkspace:4.3 kde-base/libplasmaclock:4.3 kde-base/libtaskmanager:4.3 kde-base/nsplugins:4.3 kde-base/okular:4.3 kde-base/oxygen-icons:4.3 kde-base/phonon-kde:4.3 kde-base/plasma-apps:4.3 kde-base/plasma-runtime:4.3 kde-base/plasma-workspace:4.3 kde-base/powerdevil:4.3 kde-base/renamedlg-plugins:4.3 kde-base/solid:4.3 kde-base/solid-hardware:4.3 kde-base/solidautoeject:4.3 kde-base/soliduiserver:4.3 kde-base/svgpart:4.3 kde-base/systemsettings:4.3 kde-base/thumbnailers:4.3
Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:36:24 Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote: nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot of problems. Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have the same issue. I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the Linux version of Mathematica. You can always try revdep-rebuild. He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:02:07 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they all disappear, or at least recede. The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it makes about as much sense to native speakers as well :-) I had to take 5 years of Latin study in high school to understand how my own mother tongue works. Sad indictment for a language wouldn't you say? I heard once that Perl is modelled after English. Pah! I reckon that's BS - Perl makes much too much sense for that. Brainfuck is the one modelled after English :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:29:19 Dale wrote: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-) I knew how to do it but I thought it would return a lot of hits from anything containing the letter q. Later on when I had a little bit of time to sit here, I tried it. It only returned the one result. Still sort of surprised about that. I actually just ran equery b q . Neato ! It has a microscope and read my mind. o_O which doesn't accept regular expressions or wild-cards, it wants a literal value. The man page says it will return the path used if the exact argument is entered on the command line. So you can only get one answer -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears? I'm 42 so I got your back. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:30:30 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 09:25 -0700, James Ausmus wrote: When you forget which package a command (or any random file) belongs to, a great way to figure it out would be: equery belongs $(which q) Or use 'q' to find itself: $ q file `which q` app-portage/portage-utils (/usr/bin/q) To amuse and delight your kids, have which find itself: # which which /usr/bin/which -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Blank screen after Xorg update (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fed up with Xorg + hal mess [SOLVED])
I wrote: At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix use flag, unmerged all of kde-4.2, updated world, depcleaned. Now emerge @kde-4.3 is running. And then... we will see. Come on, Gentoo, surprise me, and give me a running KDE 4.3 desktop with X and OpenGL and mouse and keyboard. That would be great. And what I got may possibly be all of that, but I cannot see it, as the display is just blank. I can switch back to a text console, so the keyboard is working. And I see no apparent error messages in the X log file. I attached another monitor, it is also blank. I hear it clicking as it does when it switches the resolution. And its information display shows the correct resolution. Happens with fglrx, radeonhd, radeon, vesa. In case an anyone likes to have a look, here are Xorg log and xorg.conf. I'm not really sure what to do now. Downgrading would be messy and will not work for long, I really would like to solve this problem now. http://wonkology.org/~wonko/tmp/Xorg.log.fglrx-2.6.28_tuxonice-r3 http://wonkology.org/~wonko/tmp/xorg.conf.fglrx Thanks, Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:04:57 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:23:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since everything kde depends on kdelibs you could mask that I tried that, but of course the problem is that I get a whole load of errors because things that want to be installed can't be. I need to know how to prevent those things being installed at all. Have you considered simply not installing them at all? If you don't want apache, cups, syslog-ng and bind you don't take any special steps, you simply don't emerge them. Unless of course you do want kde:3.5 (I don't recall if you mentioned that or not). OT: I really like kde:4 myself, but it's such a different product to kde:3.5 that I honestly feel it's official name should have been kde4. If the kde devs had done that, your issue would simply never have happened. This versioning is causing problems for many people, you are not the only one wanting to avoid kde:4 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears? I'm 42 so I got your back. lol Dale Hehe, you can join me in the lucky crowd - people who went to school when Pluto was still a planet :-) But I'm not giving up the nic I use everywhere except mailing lists: splog: snarky pedantic lazy old git My 12 year-old figured that out and reckoned it was ahuge joke, so he told his mum (my ex). She was decidedly not ... amused :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: commands to show where a package is installed?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:29:19 Dale wrote: equery belongs $(which q) ;) -James Dale :-) :-) I knew how to do it but I thought it would return a lot of hits from anything containing the letter q. Later on when I had a little bit of time to sit here, I tried it. It only returned the one result. Still sort of surprised about that. I actually just ran equery b q . Neato ! It has a microscope and read my mind. o_O which doesn't accept regular expressions or wild-cards, it wants a literal value. The man page says it will return the path used if the exact argument is entered on the command line. So you can only get one answer It appears so. I learned something today. Just wonder how long it will stay around in my brain. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate Do okular or eveince have a print current view feature? Thats one thing in acroread that xpdf never had, and I can't live without it. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ! Up ahead! It's a at DONUT HUT!! visi.com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Peter Ruskin schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. That is a body of acquired knowledge.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears? I'm 42 so I got your back. lol Dale Hehe, you can join me in the lucky crowd - people who went to school when Pluto was still a planet :-) rofl but same for me and I am only 28. But I'm not giving up the nic I use everywhere except mailing lists: splog: snarky pedantic lazy old git My 12 year-old figured that out and reckoned it was ahuge joke, so he told his mum (my ex). She was decidedly not ... amused :-) rofl Thanks for that mail. Maid me smile for minutes. kh
[gentoo-user] Re: Syntax for masking kde:4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Reffett wrote: It could be manually downloaded from http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.keywords/kde-4.3.keywords;hb=master We actually have a package.mask file for KDE 4.3 at [1]. This file *only* contains the KDE 4.3 packages, as opposed to the p.keywords file, which also contains some of KDE's dependencies. [1] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/package.unmask/kde-4.3;hb=master - -- Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkrSV0kACgkQOypDUo0oQOondwCdGRJowiTlQMBnfSYXUcYmg2+g IwwAnR0UltyqiDakkQ4/GIjOeBuEi3Sh =TlLL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a little backed up. I am OK with that. But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - this is what I need for my work. Before I upgraded to xorg-1.6 and libxcb-1.4, this *never* happened, not once, *in several years*, under extensive use, and I have been using the same Mathematica version all this time, 5.2. So if downgrading X and libxcb is what I have to do to restore reliable operation of my machine with Mathematica, then this is what I am doing next. Let me ask this next: is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible?
[gentoo-user] Re: Blank screen after Xorg update
On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: I wrote: At the moment I am away for two days from my machine, and so I am doing the BIG update now. xorg-server is upgraded to 1.6.3.901-r2, I followed the upgrade guide and also did the libxcb stuff. I removed then kdeprefix use flag, unmerged all of kde-4.2, updated world, depcleaned. Now emerge @kde-4.3 is running. And then... we will see. Come on, Gentoo, surprise me, and give me a running KDE 4.3 desktop with X and OpenGL and mouse and keyboard. That would be great. And what I got may possibly be all of that, but I cannot see it, as the display is just blank... What I do when faced with an X problem is to type X at a console prompt and see if the bare X server starts up normally, i.e. with the black-and- white background pattern and the x-cursor. That at least will separate the kde bugs from the xorg bugs. I use startx, so doing this trick is easy for me. If you use a display manager like xdm,kdm, etc then you'll need to disable that temporarily so you can boot to a console prompt. BTW, did you generate a new xorg.conf after the upgrade?
[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On 10/11/2009 05:14 PM, Denis wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a little backed up. I am OK with that. But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. Let me ask this next: is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible? I'm sure it is but it may be a pain, like everything always is ;o)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. I tried that, actually. There is no warning in the terminal window. And I have been looking at Xorg error logs also, but there is nothing useful at the end of them! All I have is: (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0) One curious thing... (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Why does it say compiled for 4.0.2 when all the other X modules say compiled for 1.6.3.901, which is the xorg-server version? I'm sure that's nothing, but I'm just grabbing at straws here.
[gentoo-user] Konqueror 4.3.1 crashed X
Has anyone else seen anything like this ? Using Konqueror 4.3.1 , I entered Ctl-Shift-Rightarrow to move a tab X vanished ! I don't remember that happening with any app in recent years. There was a report earlier today re something similar with a math pkg someone was complaining bitterly in comments on LWN recently that something had crashed X when it shouldn't have done. I'm using the stable Xorg-server 1.6.3.901-r2 with all known updates. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too. kh To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears? I'm 42 so I got your back. lol wow, from your posts I had you sorted at '24 - max, probably 21' ...
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language. :x --K
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error
091011 Mike Edenfield wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language. The word 'cool' dates from the 1960s -- yes, I'm old enough to remember -- , but since the invention of Global Warming, 'hot' has taken over ... -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:46 -0400, Denis wrote: But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. I tried that, actually. There is no warning in the terminal window. And I have been looking at Xorg error logs also, but there is nothing useful at the end of them! All I have is: (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (EE) Failed to load module dri (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0) One curious thing... (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Why does it say compiled for 4.0.2 when all the other X modules say compiled for 1.6.3.901, which is the xorg-server version? I'm sure that's nothing, but I'm just grabbing at straws here. I am a Mathematica 7 user on amd64 (gentoo-sources 2.6.30-r5) with an nvidia graphics card, and I just completed the same X upgrade this evening. So far Mathematica has not given me any issues. For what it's worth, I also receive the same compiled for 4.0.2 messages in my logs for the nvidia module, though I have not recompiled my drivers (180.60) since the upgrade. dri and dri2 are not loaded, as you have above. After glancing through your xorg.conf and X logs, I do not see any glaring issues that would cause the problems you are experiencing. Two suggestions (apologies if they have been suggested already): 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. 2) Mathematica (at least version 7) ships its own version of Qt, which it will use instead of the system version of Qt. If Mathematica 5 does something similar -- sorry, I have never used that version on Linux, so I do not know -- then it's possible that the old libraries are causing issues. At least in version 7, removing the Mathematica-supplied Qt libraries will cause Mathematica to use the updated system Qt libraries. For me, the Qt libraries shipped with Mathematica are under (install_directory)/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux-x86-64/. If Mathematica 5 ships libraries that are also installed system-wide, then I would suggest moving the Mathematica files to another location and seeing if using the system libraries helps with your crashing issue. For me, removing the Mathematica Qt libraries made Mathematica faster and look better. Good luck with your issue. Regards, Brandon Vargo
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
Brandon, Thanks very much for all this information about Mathematica - that gives me a glimmer of hope! 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. I did recompile all the xf86 packages that qlist came up with. 2) Mathematica (at least version 7) ships its own version of Qt, which it will use instead of the system version of Qt. If Mathematica 5 does something similar -- sorry, I have never used that version on Linux, so I do not know -- then it's possible that the old libraries are causing issues. At least in version 7, removing the Mathematica-supplied Qt libraries will cause Mathematica to use the updated system Qt libraries. For me, the Qt libraries shipped with Mathematica are under (install_directory)/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux-x86-64/. If Mathematica 5 ships libraries that are also installed system-wide, then I would suggest moving the Mathematica files to another location and seeing if using the system libraries helps with your crashing issue. For me, removing the Mathematica Qt libraries made Mathematica faster and look better. This is very illuminating. I looked in the /usr/local/Wolfram/Mathematica/5.2/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux directory, and this is what it contains for me: libguide.so libgmp.so.3 libvml.so libmkl.so libmkl_def.so libmkl_lapack32.so libmkl_lapack64.so libmkl_p3.so libmkl_p4.so libmkl_p4p.so libmkl_vml_def.so libmkl_vml_p3.so libmkl_vml_p4.so libmkl_vml_p4p.so Are these names familiar to anyone? Are these Qt libraries or are there others too?
Re: [gentoo-user] Migration to baselayout2 / openrc
On 10.10.2009 13:01, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On gentoo web I found this: 2. Migration to OpenRC Migration to OpenRC is fairly straightforward; it will be pulled in as part of your regular upgrade process by your package manager. PPP startup scripts still do not work with openrc. Just a heads up in case you use them. -- Eray
