Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
On Thursday 04 February 2010 09:15:36 Steven wrote: I am having a recurring error for the last few weeks revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package * update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 37% ] * broken /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la * - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * - sys-devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 I am not to sure how to go about trouble shooting this problem. Everything seems to be running as usual aside from the revdep-rebuild broken error. try lafilefixer --justfixit then try revdep-rebuild again -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .
On Thursday 04 February 2010 03:26:49 Iain Buchanan wrote: Unfortunately, that sounds all too realistic. I gave up trying to use suspend some time ago after battling with wirelss and graphics hardware that wouldn't suspend/resume reliably. But with 4G of RAM here, I find it doesn't take much longer to power down/cold start than suspend/resume really? 4G RAM, Core 2 Duo T9500 @ 2.60GHz here, and hibernate is much faster. Do you have an SSD? Resuming with gnome, compiz, firefox, etc. already loaded is supremely better than my boot up AND log-in time otherwise. Admittedly, I have tons of crud on this machine and the gentoo install has been ripped apart, guts torn out and everything put back in what appears to be a workable fashion many many times. The odds that I have ancient crap interfering with suspend probably approaches a certainty by now. And I'm just too lazy to dig in and have a look-see -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thursday 04 February 2010 02:04:36 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:29:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Taken more globally, maybe portage should warn whenever you are trying to remove a package that is a dependency of anything in @world. Could be useful if implemented with an off switch Or leave it off by default, users can enable it in make.conf if they wish. I often unmerge deps of things in world, but I know (usually) what I'm doing and will follow up with a --deep later. Annoying Are you sure? Are you REALLY sure? might make me switch to Ubuntu :-) A command line argument (--force?) would be fine, but you can't complain it's annoying when you have just complained that portage doesn't do this. I didn't make that complaint... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
W dniu 04.02.2010 08:15, Steven pisze: I am having a recurring error for the last few weeks revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package * update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 37% ] * broken /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la * - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * - sys-devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 I am not to sure how to go about trouble shooting this problem. Everything seems to be running as usual aside from the revdep-rebuild broken error. Check if you have /etc/ld.so.conf.d/05binutils and not /etc/env.d/00glibc ( this file should contain LDPATH=include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf ), if so - rebuild glibc. If this is not the case, maybe try lafilefixer --justfixit. HTH
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:51:18 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: True, it's been on todo for a while. It's no longer an issue for me now as I use a Mi-Fi 3G modem, which connects to the computer via WiFi instead of having a dongle sticking out the side waiting to be knocked off. And how do you power it on the road? Much more hungry to have 2x wifi going than one usb 3G modem (imho) The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are exactly the same as when using any other wifi connection. It also has the advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it. Wicd can run any command or script you want before and after going on and offline. you're suggestions on exactly what script to run to tell the current evo process to go offline immediately is welcome :) I couldn't figure it out, but no doubt theres some way I could emulate the dbus message from NetworkManager... You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can just run claws-mail --offline to put the running instance in offline mode. -- Neil Bothwick Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:46:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: A command line argument (--force?) would be fine, but you can't complain it's annoying when you have just complained that portage doesn't do this. I didn't make that complaint... Sorry, that comment was aimed at Dale. I know you be quite happy to take responsibility for borking your own system :P -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 10: Computer security signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:06:54 -0600, Dale wrote: The bad thing is, since python is not a system package, it doesn't even save the last compiled binary in /usr/portage/packages/All/ if you only have buildsyspkg in make.conf. It does portage but not python. That's because python is no longer an essential requirement of Gentoo. It is a dependency of portage, but Gentoo now supports multiple package managers, so portage is not required either. -- Neil Bothwick The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.(Horace Walpole) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:58:42AM +0100, Mariusz Ceier wrote: W dniu 04.02.2010 08:15, Steven pisze: I am having a recurring error for the last few weeks revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package * update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 37% ] * broken /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la * - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * - sys-devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 I am not to sure how to go about trouble shooting this problem. Everything seems to be running as usual aside from the revdep-rebuild broken error. Check if you have /etc/ld.so.conf.d/05binutils and not /etc/env.d/00glibc ( this file should contain LDPATH=include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf ), if so - rebuild glibc. If this is not the case, maybe try lafilefixer --justfixit. HTH I have the same problem and I think the problem is revdep-rebuild. binutils is just working fine and revdep-rebuild just thinks that it is broken, because it doesnt check the right librarypath (/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib). I tried your suggestion (rebuild glibc) and it doesnt work. But I noticed something interesting: cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/05binutils.conf /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib cat /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/local/lib include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf [...] I think this is normal. But when I start revdep-rebuild -v I get revdep-rebuild environment: SEARCH_DIRS=/bin include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf /lib /lib64 /opt/bin [...] So I guess the include-Statement should load the files under ld.so.conf.d but it looks like its interpreted as a normal path -Stefan pgp0DjgAuBPun.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09:58/02/04/10, Mariusz Ceier wrote: W dniu 04.02.2010 08:15, Steven pisze: I am having a recurring error for the last few weeks revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package * update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 37% ] * broken /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la * - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la * - sys-devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 I am not to sure how to go about trouble shooting this problem. Everything seems to be running as usual aside from the revdep-rebuild broken error. Check if you have /etc/ld.so.conf.d/05binutils and not /etc/env.d/00glibc ( this file should contain LDPATH=include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf ), if so - rebuild glibc. If this is not the case, maybe try lafilefixer --justfixit. HTH I tried all, and nothing seemed to solve the problem. I'm at a loss as to what this could be. When it says requires -liberty is liberty part of a package? I am not sure what it means by -liberty and were to acquire it. Anyways thanks for the help so far. - -- public key @ apartment415.homelinux.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAktqmnIACgkQpSa/g4Qb1ZnoMgD+ITaLS9dyio1GHnIXpaiM2vTV p1aFRUNjURIbOAc3QFwBAMUwmVnQXEJQxVkOiknrOuIQ27RjGZCdJ+BQx7ldQQ3W =a3HI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:06:54 -0600, Dale wrote: The bad thing is, since python is not a system package, it doesn't even save the last compiled binary in /usr/portage/packages/All/ if you only have buildsyspkg in make.conf. It does portage but not python. That's because python is no longer an essential requirement of Gentoo. It is a dependency of portage, but Gentoo now supports multiple package managers, so portage is not required either. That's true but unmerging python still breaks portage. Talking about some other package manager doesn't affect portage and the fact that removing python breaks it. The facts still remain the same as before. Remove python and portage is broken. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] xpdf build fails
Hi all,
after last update, I ran revdep-rebuild and this is the package I have
to rebuild:
[...]
* All prepared. Starting rebuild
emerge --oneshot app-text/xpdf:0
..
but it fails:
[...]
GlobalParams.cc:2227: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
GlobalParams.cc:2229: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
GlobalParams.cc: In member function ‘CMap* GlobalParams::getCMap(GooString*,
GooString*)’:
GlobalParams.cc:2831: error: no matching function for call to
‘CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*)’
/usr/include/poppler/CMap.h:119: note: candidates are: CMap*
CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*, Stream*)
make: *** [GlobalParams.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
* ERROR: app-text/xpdf-3.02-r2 failed:
* emake failed
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 54: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2595: Called _eapi2_src_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 646: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake || die emake failed
*
For what I saw in google, seems a poppler related problem. and when running
xpdf:
$ xpdf
xpdf: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.4: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
I don't have libpoppler.so.4 installed:
# locate libpoppler.so.4
#
and poppler installed pacakges in my system:
# eix poppler|grep ^\[I\]
[I] app-text/poppler
[I] virtual/poppler
[I] virtual/poppler-glib
[I] virtual/poppler-utils
with use:
[I] app-text/poppler
Available versions: 0.8.7 0.10.5-r1 ~0.12.3-r2 0.12.3-r3 {abiword cairo
cjk debug doc exceptions jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4 utils xpdf-headers zlib}
Installed versions: 0.12.3-r3(10:35:25 AM 02/04/2010)(abiword cairo jpeg
png qt4 utils xpdf-headers -cjk -debug -doc -exceptions -jpeg2k -lcms)
How may I solve this issue?
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers!
--
Arnau Bria
http://blog.emergetux.net
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf build fails
On Thursday 04 February 2010 12:43:46 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi all, after last update, I ran revdep-rebuild and this is the package I have to rebuild: [...] * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot app-text/xpdf:0 .. but it fails: [...] GlobalParams.cc:2227: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ GlobalParams.cc:2229: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ GlobalParams.cc: In member function ‘CMap* GlobalParams::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*)’: GlobalParams.cc:2831: error: no matching function for call to ‘CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*)’ /usr/include/poppler/CMap.h:119: note: candidates are: CMap* CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*, Stream*) make: *** [GlobalParams.o] Error 1 make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs * ERROR: app-text/xpdf-3.02-r2 failed: * emake failed * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 54: Called src_compile * environment, line 2595: Called _eapi2_src_compile * ebuild.sh, line 646: Called die * The specific snippet of code: *emake || die emake failed * For what I saw in google, seems a poppler related problem. and when running xpdf: Somebody in poppler-land deserves to be shot, it seems every incremental release must block everything before it. So someone in doing API/ABI changes between minor releases (a shootable offense) have you rebuilt the entire poppler chain then tried building xpdf again? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thursday 04 February 2010 12:14:52 Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:06:54 -0600, Dale wrote: The bad thing is, since python is not a system package, it doesn't even save the last compiled binary in /usr/portage/packages/All/ if you only have buildsyspkg in make.conf. It does portage but not python. That's because python is no longer an essential requirement of Gentoo. It is a dependency of portage, but Gentoo now supports multiple package managers, so portage is not required either. That's true but unmerging python still breaks portage. Talking about some other package manager doesn't affect portage and the fact that removing python breaks it. The facts still remain the same as before. Remove python and portage is broken. How about a portage feature request? The contents of @system can have dependencies. Put a setting in a conf file which means the system uses portage, therefore python is in @system. Without the setting, python does not get included in @system. I have no idea how this would fly, it's just an idea off the top of my head -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf build fails
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:43:46 +0100
Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote:
Hi all,
after last update, I ran revdep-rebuild and this is the package I have
to rebuild:
[...]
* All prepared. Starting rebuild
emerge --oneshot app-text/xpdf:0
..
but it fails:
[...]
GlobalParams.cc:2227: warning: deprecated conversion from string
constant to ‘char*’ GlobalParams.cc:2229: warning: deprecated
conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ GlobalParams.cc: In member
function ‘CMap* GlobalParams::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*)’:
GlobalParams.cc:2831: error: no matching function for call to
‘CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*,
GooString*)’ /usr/include/poppler/CMap.h:119: note: candidates are:
CMap* CMapCache::getCMap(GooString*, GooString*, Stream*) make: ***
[GlobalParams.o] Error 1 make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
* ERROR: app-text/xpdf-3.02-r2 failed:
* emake failed
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 54: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2595: Called _eapi2_src_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 646: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
*emake || die emake failed
*
For what I saw in google, seems a poppler related problem. and when
running xpdf:
$ xpdf
xpdf: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.4: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
I don't have libpoppler.so.4 installed:
# locate libpoppler.so.4
#
and poppler installed pacakges in my system:
# eix poppler|grep ^\[I\]
[I] app-text/poppler
[I] virtual/poppler
[I] virtual/poppler-glib
[I] virtual/poppler-utils
with use:
[I] app-text/poppler
Available versions: 0.8.7 0.10.5-r1 ~0.12.3-r2 0.12.3-r3
{abiword cairo cjk debug doc exceptions jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4
utils xpdf-headers zlib} Installed versions: 0.12.3-r3(10:35:25 AM
02/04/2010)(abiword cairo jpeg png qt4 utils xpdf-headers -cjk -debug
-doc -exceptions -jpeg2k -lcms)
How may I solve this issue?
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers!
had this today this morning, solved it by unmasking
app-text/xpdf-3.02-r4 after finding this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293588#c5
Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf build fails
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:15:01 +0100 Daniel Wagener wrote: [...] had this today this morning, solved it by unmasking app-text/xpdf-3.02-r4 after finding this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293588#c5 Thanks!! I always forget to look in bugs.gentto before asking here :-) Cheers! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:59:14AM -0800, Steven wrote: I tried all, and nothing seemed to solve the problem. I'm at a loss as to what this could be. When it says requires -liberty is liberty part of a package? I am not sure what it means by -liberty and were to acquire it. The library's name is iberty. The -l part is saying that it is a library. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libiberty/ I don't have access to my gentoo computer at the moment, so I can't tell you where that comes from. But it is probably from either glibc, gcc, or libstdc++. I expect the previous poster who told you to remerge glibc knew the answer :) But if I am reading revdep-rebuild output correctly, it means that your binutils is compiled to be linked against that library. But the library cannot be found by revdep-rebuild. Hence the error. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] binutils broken revdep-rebuild
W dniu 04.02.2010 12:45, Willie Wong pisze: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:59:14AM -0800, Steven wrote: I tried all, and nothing seemed to solve the problem. I'm at a loss as to what this could be. When it says requires -liberty is liberty part of a package? I am not sure what it means by -liberty and were to acquire it. The library's name is iberty. The -l part is saying that it is a library. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libiberty/ I don't have access to my gentoo computer at the moment, so I can't tell you where that comes from. But it is probably from either glibc, gcc, or libstdc++. I expect the previous poster who told you to remerge glibc knew the answer :) But if I am reading revdep-rebuild output correctly, it means that your binutils is compiled to be linked against that library. But the library cannot be found by revdep-rebuild. Hence the error. W libiberty.a comes from binutils. Looking at Stefan revdep-rebuild environment output it seems that revdep-rebuild doesn't handle 'include wildcard' statements in ld.so.conf. This bug is already reported #298651. Mariusz Ceier
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:05:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about a portage feature request? The contents of @system can have dependencies. Put a setting in a conf file which means the system uses portage, therefore python is in @system. Without the setting, python does not get included in @system. How about giving the same warning when unmerging a dependency of @system as you do when unmerging a package directly in there. Either way, you risk breaking the system. Hmm, the random tagline is spookily relevant. -- Neil Bothwick I do not like this dumb machine I really ought to sell it. It never does just what I want But only what I tell it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] OT: DLNA saga
Hello Folks, In a previous thread I was curious about DLNA and anyone's experiences with it. DLNA is definitely a new MicroSoft Infection! As it turns out, a very bright (savant) EE friend of mine shared his recent experience with DLNA: QUOTE: I would suspect that anything designed to just work over the web would be in bed with Microsoft - and have all sort of security holes in it. A better option might be something that just works over 232. I have two digital crossovers which work over a wire with a simple (very simple) GUI. No connection to the internet required. On the other hand, the DJ console I just bought *requires* an internet connection to set up the first time. Not only that, but all security software turned OFF. So I turned off Windows Update to plug that little hole. Wrong answer, McFly! It blew up on me. Not having Windows Update turned on szhexed the on-board firmware when it tried to download it. And the registry was corrupt, which I had to fix manually. I *finally* got a driver and firmware package from them that can be installed locally, offline. But what the *didn't* tell me is that the firmware could not be installed on a Windows 7 machine. Blew up again. Re-initialized on my XP machine, where it works now. But I'm still trying to get the Win 7 drivers sorted out. There are still registry errors. Now compare this to my new measurement software I just bought - it works on ANYTHING (even Wine) and comes with a USB hardware key. Can't run it on more than one machine without the key. Isn't this about 1 times easier?? end rant. END/QUOTE So avoid DLNA unless you field test before purchase http://www.dlna.org/ James
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thursday 04 February 2010 15:37:17 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:05:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about a portage feature request? The contents of @system can have dependencies. Put a setting in a conf file which means the system uses portage, therefore python is in @system. Without the setting, python does not get included in @system. How about giving the same warning when unmerging a dependency of @system as you do when unmerging a package directly in there. Either way, you risk breaking the system. Aren't all deps of packages in @system themselves already in @system? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
在 2010/2/4 05:45:00，Harry Putnam ： After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing. Anyone seen something similar or have an idea what might be the problem? I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is listed below, anyone has a solution? # revdep-rebuild -p [...] * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 35% ] * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la - sys- devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-devel/binutils-2.20 * Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep- rebuild. Leon Feng
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
Hi Leon, have you really run lafilefixer --justfixit and some time, ago, I had problems because of dangling symlinks, so I've run symlinks -dr /usr (which remove all dangling symlinks in /usr/**/*) Then re-emerge sys-devel/binutils again I hope this helps,m Helmut. On 4 Feb, Leon Feng wrote: 在 2010/2/4 05:45:00，Harry Putnam ： After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing. Anyone seen something similar or have an idea what might be the problem? I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is listed below, anyone has a solution? # revdep-rebuild -p [...] * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 35% ] * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la - sys- devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-devel/binutils-2.20 * Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep- rebuild. Leon Feng -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:14:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about giving the same warning when unmerging a dependency of @system as you do when unmerging a package directly in there. Either way, you risk breaking the system. Aren't all deps of packages in @system themselves already in @system? No, otherwise portage would complain if you tried to unmerge python. Anyway, deps are USE-dependent. Try USE=X emerge @system on a headless server to see jut how much @system can pull in. -- Neil Bothwick Life Support System Failure - Reboot Patient (Y/n)? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:13:20 +0800, Leon Feng wrote: I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is listed below, anyone has a solution? Are you also running the testing gentoolkit? Otherwise you're trying to use the old revdep-rebuild wit the new portage, which may have unexpected consequences. Have you run lafilefixer --justfixit? This should always be the first step when revdep-rebuild reports problems. -- Neil Bothwick If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him - Is he still wrong? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On 2/4/2010 6:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about a portage feature request? The contents of @system can have dependencies. Put a setting in a conf file which means the system uses portage, therefore python is in @system. Without the setting, python does not get included in @system. Since the system package set is package manageragnostic, perhaps that's the wrong place to deal with dependencies for portage or whatever? The package manager itself should know enough to keep itself functional. It just seems odd that portage lets you use portage commands to break portage. If I wrote a package manager in C# (as a ridiculous example) I would probably make it smart enough not to let you remove mono. --K
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On 2/4/2010 10:43 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:14:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about giving the same warning when unmerging a dependency of @system as you do when unmerging a package directly in there. Either way, you risk breaking the system. Aren't all deps of packages in @system themselves already in @system? No, otherwise portage would complain if you tried to unmerge python. Anyway, deps are USE-dependent. Try USE=X emerge @system on a headless server to see jut how much @system can pull in. Portage isn't in @system, either. virtual/portage is, but paludis also provides that. Python isn't a dependency of any other system package (except file, but that's only enabled by the USE flag). It appears that portage's refusal to unmerge itself is hard-coded into portage; that reinforces my belief that portage should be responsible for refusing to unmerge it's own dependencies. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] VGA-out screen aspect ratio
I've only ever used my laptop's VGA-out into 4:3 screens and it always works great. I've now plugged it into a 16:9 screen for the first time, and it still displays 4:3 on that screen and on my laptop. Is there a way for it to detect the proper aspect ratio? Maybe it depends on the monitor's EDID? If not, can I manually change the aspect ratio? - Grant Not sure about how well it will work automatically, but try running xrandr and reading the output. It should tell you what monitors you have hooked up and what resolutions and scan frequencies they support. I did this and then put the ones I wanted into my xorg.conf file and was good to go. Hope this helps, Mark Thanks Mark. Is there a slick way to restart xorg without rebooting so you can switch between VGA-out mode and non? When I'm doing VGA-out, my laptop's screen changes to match the aspect ratio of the output so it's good to be able to switch. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] VGA-out screen aspect ratio
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:17:25 -0800, Grant wrote: Is there a slick way to restart xorg without rebootin /etc/init.d/xdm restart -- Neil Bothwick Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VGA-out screen aspect ratio
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever used my laptop's VGA-out into 4:3 screens and it always works great. I've now plugged it into a 16:9 screen for the first time, and it still displays 4:3 on that screen and on my laptop. Is there a way for it to detect the proper aspect ratio? Maybe it depends on the monitor's EDID? If not, can I manually change the aspect ratio? - Grant Not sure about how well it will work automatically, but try running xrandr and reading the output. It should tell you what monitors you have hooked up and what resolutions and scan frequencies they support. I did this and then put the ones I wanted into my xorg.conf file and was good to go. Hope this helps, Mark Thanks Mark. Is there a slick way to restart xorg without rebooting so you can switch between VGA-out mode and non? When I'm doing VGA-out, my laptop's screen changes to match the aspect ratio of the output so it's good to be able to switch. - Grant Not sure of the best way to do that, but is it really necessary? I suppose you could try (from the console) /etc/init.d/xdm restart and see if it does what you want. Note that you can set up your screens using xrandr itself. I'm not very good at it but I've played with it and it works. Duncan on the amd64 list posted a couple of commands he uses. They look like this: xrandr --verbose --fb 1920x2400 --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --panning 1920x1200+0+0/1920x1200+0+0/20/20/20/20 --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x800 -- panning 1920x1200+0+1200/1920x1200+0+1200/20/20/20/20 Clearly that's a mouthful but I'm sure it makes sense once you get down to the basics. I think you can break it apart into something like: xrandr --verbose --fb 1920x2400 --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --panning 1920x1200+0+0/1920x1200+0+0/20/20/20/20 --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x800 --panning 1920x1200+0+1200/1920x1200+0+1200/20/20/20/20 where DVI-0 and DVI-1 are the monitors and everything else is info to xrandr is what to do. You would change the output names to whatever yours are called. The first line 1920x2400 sets up (I think) the overall screen size and then the next two lines set up the two monitors. I think in his case they sit vertically, not horizontally like mine and possibly yours do. In my case I run 1280x1024 on the left monitor and 1680x1050 on the right monitor. I can drag stuff left and right just fine. It gets messed up if I play a game though. Anyway, there's some stuff for you to look at and consider. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 03 February 2010 23:45:00 Harry Putnam wrote: After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing. Anyone seen something similar or have an idea what might be the problem? full output from revdep-rebuild? My output is identical to that posted by Leon F. Where does one find find lafilefixer? root # which lafilefixer which: no lafilefixer in (/usr/local/bin:/cvsb/reader/home/reader/scripts:/cvsb/reader/home/reader/scripts/perl:/cvsb/reader/home/reader/scripts/awk:/cvsb/reader/home/reader/scripts/log_tools:/root/bin:/cvsb/reader/root/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.1_rc2/deprecated/qpkg:/usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.1_rc2/deprecated/etcat:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4)
[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:11, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Where does one find find lafilefixer? emerge dev-util/lafilefixer -- Douglas J Hunley, RHCT doug.hun...@gmail.com : http://douglasjhunley.com : Twitter: @hunleyd Obsessively opposed to the typical.
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/4/2010 10:43 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 16:14:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about giving the same warning when unmerging a dependency of @system as you do when unmerging a package directly in there. Either way, you risk breaking the system. Aren't all deps of packages in @system themselves already in @system? No, otherwise portage would complain if you tried to unmerge python. Anyway, deps are USE-dependent. Try USE=X emerge @system on a headless server to see jut how much @system can pull in. Portage isn't in @system, either. virtual/portage is, but paludis also provides that. Python isn't a dependency of any other system package (except file, but that's only enabled by the USE flag). It appears that portage's refusal to unmerge itself is hard-coded into portage; that reinforces my belief that portage should be responsible for refusing to unmerge it's own dependencies. --Mike Just picking a random post here. The devs know this. It has been pointed out on -dev and on b.g.o. as well. They won't do anything to correct this. It just seems to me that portage shouldn't break itself. Since there are other package managers, they should not be able to break themselves either. I think maybe it should be the package manager itself that prevents this. That way it fixes it for everyone. I'm just not sure this is doable. The biggest point is, the devs know but are not interested in fixing it. Their response is to shut up and get over it, not in those words but still. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
On Thursday 04 February 2010 17:54:06 Mike Edenfield wrote: On 2/4/2010 6:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: How about a portage feature request? The contents of @system can have dependencies. Put a setting in a conf file which means the system uses portage, therefore python is in @system. Without the setting, python does not get included in @system. Since the system package set is package manageragnostic, perhaps that's the wrong place to deal with dependencies for portage or whatever? The package manager itself should know enough to keep itself functional. It just seems odd that portage lets you use portage commands to break portage. If I wrote a package manager in C# (as a ridiculous example) I would probably make it smart enough not to let you remove mono. Well, portage IS smart enough to not let you remove the toolchain or the C library. All of which is moot of course if the bloody compiler can't be launched -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22:13/02/04/10, Leon Feng wrote: ??? 2010/2/4 05:45:00???Harry Putnam ??? After todays update world, I run revdep-rebuild which reports binutils broken and uses `oneshot' to reinstall it. Follow with another revdep-rebuild and it finds the same thing. Anyone seen something similar or have an idea what might be the problem? I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is listed below, anyone has a solution? # revdep-rebuild -p [...] * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 35% ] * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la (requires -liberty) * broken /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la (requires -liberty) [ 100% ] * Generated new 3_broken.rr * Assigning files to packages * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libbfd.la - sys-devel/binutils * /usr/lib/binutils/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20/libopcodes.la - sys- devel/binutils * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr * Assigning packages to ebuilds * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr * Evaluating package order * Generated new 5_order.rr * All prepared. Starting rebuild emerge --oneshot --pretend sys-devel/binutils:0 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-devel/binutils-2.20 * Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep- rebuild. Leon Feng Bug#: 298651 - -- public key @ apartment415.homelinux.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAktrMZgACgkQpSa/g4Qb1Zm/AgEAoJ8UQR4+4vIw8TlprXuHuFEU tcKakeyF/TOzs91VbuUA/jAuetZ3l2HE1qbCvHzh0G/HQzBYTeLQCEGuPJo8mksF =BTwn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Updateing kills metadatabase
Hi, I reported this before and it was suggested, that my harddisc/filessystem may be corrupted. Now I am sure that is not and I am beging for help again ... :) After doing a (as root): ionice -c 3 nice -19 eix-sync emerge -pv --verbose --update --deep world and than a (as user) qsearch item search: Updating ebuild metacache ... search: initialize_flat(): opening '/usr/portage/metadata/cache/.metadata.x' failed: Permission denied search: initialize_flat(): You should run this command as root: q -m results in a not existent metadatabase. Executing the same command as root gives me: solfire:/rootqsearch item search: Updating ebuild metacache ... search: Finished 0 entries in 0.103410 seconds search result for item What kills the metadatabase every time and how can I fix that? What I am doing wrong here ? Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updateing kills metadatabase
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 00:14:56 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: qsearch item search: Updating ebuild metacache ... search: initialize_flat(): opening '/usr/portage/metadata/cache/.metadata.x' failed: Permission denied search: initialize_flat(): You should run this command as root: q -m The message is telling you which command to run, although it is short and you may have missed it q -m What kills the metadatabase every time and how can I fix that? What I am doing wrong here ? You probably updated portage-utils and /etc/portage/postsync.d/q-reinitialize no longer has the execute bit set. chmod +x it as instructed in the elog message from the portage-utils emerge. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #01: No error... ...yet. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updateing kills metadatabase
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [10-02-05 04:04]: On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 00:14:56 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: qsearch item search: Updating ebuild metacache ... search: initialize_flat(): opening '/usr/portage/metadata/cache/.metadata.x' failed: Permission denied search: initialize_flat(): You should run this command as root: q -m The message is telling you which command to run, although it is short and you may have missed it q -m Runnning this command is in fact a short and easy task. To be urged to do it because the update process (eix/emerge) kills the metadatabase is nonetheless not correct. What kills the metadatabase every time and how can I fix that? What I am doing wrong here ? You probably updated portage-utils and /etc/portage/postsync.d/q-reinitialize no longer has the execute bit set. chmod +x it as instructed in the elog message from the portage-utils emerge. /etc/portage/postsync.d/q-reinitialize has already set the execution bit. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #01: No error... ...yet. -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 09:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:51:18 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: True, it's been on todo for a while. It's no longer an issue for me now as I use a Mi-Fi 3G modem, which connects to the computer via WiFi instead of having a dongle sticking out the side waiting to be knocked off. And how do you power it on the road? Much more hungry to have 2x wifi going than one usb 3G modem (imho) The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are exactly the same as when using any other wifi connection. but more than when just using 3G with you're wifi off I bet... Not that I know how much power my wireless card uses. It also has the advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it. and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me wrong - I looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool (about the size of eight stacked credit cards) I'm just saying... You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can just run claws-mail --offline to put the running instance in offline mode. unfortunately evolution --offline opens a new instance of evolution and puts _that_ in offline mode... Time to look at the source. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DLNA saga
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:55 +, James wrote: Hello Folks, In a previous thread I was curious about DLNA and anyone's experiences with it. DLNA is definitely a new MicroSoft Infection! As it turns out, a very bright (savant) EE friend of mine shared his recent experience with DLNA: QUOTE: [interesting story] end rant. END/QUOTE I just Don't Get It(TM). Being an embedded programmer, it is so friggin cheap and easy to chuck on a TTL-USB chip with drivers available for just about anything. Then you have usb-serial (or plain old serial if you want). Plonk your own version of a tiny binary protocol on it an voila! Why manufacturers crap around with complicated high-level non-compliant non-standards is beyond me. end rant :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au It's now the GNU Emacs of all terminal emulators. -- Linus Torvalds, regarding the fact that Linux started off as a terminal emulator
