Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 June 2011 11:31:50 Pandu Poluan did opine thusly: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 05:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: > >> I solved the problem by rebuilding xf86-input-evdev after > >> booting on an unbuntu livecd then chroo

[gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2011 10:18 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it alone. With hindsight, I should have left well enough alone anyway. It wasn't hurting a thing

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 05:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: > >> I solved the problem by rebuilding xf86-input-evdev after booting on an >> unbuntu livecd then chrooting... Took some time. As for using portage > > Why did you need to chr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:54, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 06:52, walt wrote: --snippage-- >> >> Yes, it's a trivial fix (everything's trivial if you know how to do it :) >> >> The /dev directory (before udev starts) is missing the /dev/console >> device -- or maybe it's the /

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 06:52, walt wrote: > On 06/24/2011 04:08 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Mark Knecht writes: >> >>>    As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right >>> now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped >>> him install Gentoo. The tarballs st

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote: On 6/24/2011 5:09 PM, David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700, kashani wrote about [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject: I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, change

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:52:44 -0500, Dale wrote: I guess my first post was correct after all. Enable fortran USE flag and keep things as it was before it got changed. It was working fine. Isn't that flag enabled by default? All you have yo do is not disable it.

[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > I didn't think to get the right wording before rebooting into > SystemRescueCD and am now chrooted into the vm again. Here are the boot messages in a screen grab www.jtan.com/~reader/vu2/disp.cgi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >>    As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right >> now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped >> him install Gentoo. The tarballs still, after nearly a month I think, >> did

[gentoo-user] WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
walt writes: > Yes, it's a trivial fix (everything's trivial if you know how to do it :) > > The /dev directory (before udev starts) is missing the /dev/console > device -- or maybe it's the /dev/null device. Crap, I can't recall > just now but I fixed the problem a week or two ago by using mkno

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-24 Thread kashani
On 6/24/2011 5:09 PM, David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700, kashani wrote about [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject: I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, changed the subjec

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:43:50AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > 95% of what I do in KDE is run Firefox or a VM for trading > futures and the balance is mostly use a terminal to maintain my > systems. I use Skype a little, backup to a few different external > hard drives. Sometimes I play solitaire.

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-24 Thread David W Noon
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:12:26 -0700, kashani wrote about [gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject: > I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you > have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, changed the subject, > started a new message, and sent the em

[gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread walt
On 06/24/2011 04:08 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >>As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right >> now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped >> him install Gentoo. The tarballs still, after nearly a month I think, >> didn't inclu

[gentoo-user] Don't start a new thread by changing the subject

2011-06-24 Thread kashani
I've noticed this a couple of times this week. A few of you have responded to the annoying Fortran thread, changed the subject, started a new message, and sent the email starting a new thread. Because you responded to an existing thread you are not creating a new thread and thus and reducing

[gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht writes: >As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right > now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped > him install Gentoo. The tarballs still, after nearly a month I think, > didn't include all the required /dev stuff in the stage3 tarball

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:03:04 -0400, Todd Goodman wrote: > What seems strange then is that if everyone keeps telling Dale that he > most likely doesn't need cantor and R then why is R enabled in the > profile by default? Because if you do need cantor, it works best with R. But the point is that he

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: 2.2, it's listed as ~*2.2.0_alpha41, too early for me. Thanks all for the help Don't let the ridiculous version number fool you, 2.2 has been generally usable for a couple of years. +1 I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:52:44 -0500, Dale wrote: > I guess my first post was correct after all. Enable fortran USE flag > and keep things as it was before it got changed. It was working fine. Isn't that flag enabled by default? All you have yo do is not disable it. -- Neil Bothwick "Self-ex

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:14:13 +0200, pk wrote: > > To both of you, let me introduce you to the concept of sarcasm... > > Oh well... I'm not entirely unfamiliar with that concept, although I > admit that it escaped me this time. Perhaps, it has something to do with > how it was presented? ;-) sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:35:55 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > That's not the only one. Digikam has a hard depend on clapack, which > > requires virtual/blas and thus a Fortran compiler. > > Hrm. I installed kde-meta and it didn't pull in Digikam. I didn't say it would. I meant that installing

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:43:50 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Or maybe 'kde-meta as currently constructed by someone somewhere is a > bloat monster in some other people's opinions'. And, we're not > required to use it. kde-meta is, by definition, a bloat-monster. It's sole purpose is to install everyt

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:56:48 +0100, Stroller wrote: > >> 1) what's the difference between "package.keywords" and > >> "package.accept_keywords"? > > > > The latter is the new name for the former. > > So I can just > `mv /etc/portage/package.keywords /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords` > an

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:02:23 +0100, Stroller wrote: > I like the idea of package.use as a directory of indie files, but > haven't bothered switching over because this works so well for me. The > package.use directory system seems too simple to be true - is it really > no more complex than a direct

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:43:02 +0200 (CEST), Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: > I solved the problem by rebuilding xf86-input-evdev after booting on an > unbuntu livecd then chrooting... Took some time. As for using portage Why did you need to chroot, just boot your normal system without X (add gentoo=nox t

Re: [gentoo-user] open source monitoring on gentoo

2011-06-24 Thread Petric Frank
Hello Stefan, Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 11:15:54 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Greets, > > I am looking for a nagios-type monitoring system which I can run on gentoo. > > The requirement is that the customer should be able to add/edit hosts > and services via web-GUI ... there is no cli-motiv

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread walt
On 06/23/2011 11:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > You'll be telling us there's still a place for Cobol next :-O Never thought to look before, but: #eix cobol * dev-lang/open-cobol Available versions: (~)1.0 {berkdb nls readline} Homepage:http://www.opencobol.org/ Descrip

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT/rant] Self-replicating programmer stupidity

2011-06-24 Thread walt
On 06/24/2011 08:49 AM, Arttu V. wrote: > On 6/24/11, walt wrote: >> My question: WTF uses these poorly written ftp servers? Why do they >> exist? Who asked for them? Who wrote the code, and why? > > Maybe they're all derivatives of a single codebase with lots of bugs > and a MIT/BSD/Apache-s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: cantor uses R as default backend. R uses fortran. And yes, that's because of its speed, when it comes to mathematics and numerics. Michael I put it back like it was. Heck, if I don't, something else will need it later on and portage will puke on my ke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 15:00:32 schrieb Dale: > Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > >> On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: > >>> If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it alone. With > >>> hindsight, > >>> I should have left

[gentoo-user] Re: open source monitoring on gentoo

2011-06-24 Thread James
Mick gmail.com> writes: > http://www.jffnms.org/ jffnms is fabulous. However it has recently been release as version 0.9.x so a few install bugs are out there. Portage still shows 8.3.x (way old) Craig, the main developer of jffnms is very cool and helpful. It's a smaller and tighter commu

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT/rant] Self-replicating programmer stupidity

2011-06-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:54 PM, walt wrote: > My question:  WTF uses these poorly written ftp servers?  Why do they > exist?  Who asked for them?  Who wrote the code, and why? > > My tentative guess: either evil programmers, or incompetent programmers. > (I suspect the intersection of the two set

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it alone. With hindsight, I should have left well enough alone anyway. It wasn't hurting a thing. Watch the el

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread David W Noon
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:18:23 +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?: > Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > > On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: > > > If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 08:04:43 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: > > If it works with fortran turned on, I'd leave it alone. With hindsight, > > I should have left well enough alone anyway. It wasn't hurting a thing. > > Watch the elog messages. It will tell you

Re: [gentoo-user] about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 18:37, Stroller wrote: > > On 24 June 2011, at 02:02, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I just happened to run into a situation where rsync would have been >> really handy to have on board while booting a minimal install iso. >> >> I was surprised to find rsync was not amongst the o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I fully agree and `SystemRescueCD' is exactly what I ended up > using still failed to get a working gentoo vm though.  Why is it > such a bitch to install gentoo into a guest vm? > Hi Harry, You've said this a couple of times that Gen

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT/rant] Self-replicating programmer stupidity

2011-06-24 Thread Arttu V.
On 6/24/11, walt wrote: > My question: WTF uses these poorly written ftp servers? Why do they > exist? Who asked for them? Who wrote the code, and why? Maybe they're all derivatives of a single codebase with lots of bugs and a MIT/BSD/Apache-style license? -- Arttu V.

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > * Mike Edenfield [110624 08:25]: >> On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: >> > * Mike Edenfield  [110623 18:34]: >> >> >> It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional >> >> (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "

[gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller writes: > On 24 June 2011, at 02:02, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I just happened to run into a situation where rsync would have been >> really handy to have on board while booting a minimal install iso. >> >> I was surprised to find rsync was not amongst the onboard tools. >> >> Isn't rsy

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 24 June 2011 14:42:24 Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: > Hi, Adam. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:07:02PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > > >> No you just need to rebuild it, so emerge xf86-input-evdev > > > > > > This problem hit me too. Can you give us an explanation for > > > needing to

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-settings over ssh sees my local GPU?

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/23/2011 09:21 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Looking at the man page, it appears you need to use the -ctrl-display > parameter or the $DISPLAY env var. The man page mentions that > nvidia-settings queries the X server, which is running locally. It looks > like this setting may force it to use ano

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:07:02PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > >> No you just need to rebuild it, so emerge xf86-input-evdev > > This problem hit me too.  Can you give us an explanation for needing to > > rebuild evdev?  Was there some missing dependency in an ebuild, or > > something?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT/rant] Self-replicating programmer stupidity

2011-06-24 Thread Bill Longman
On 06/23/2011 07:52 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote: > Programming secure software is not the easiest task to master. It takes > a lot of planning and enough knowledge about the components you're using > to know exactly how they all work together, as well as how they are not > supposed to be used. In many

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Todd Goodman
* Mike Edenfield [110624 08:25]: > On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > > * Mike Edenfield [110623 18:34]: > > >> It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional > >> (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "if you aren't sure if you need it > >> then you probably don

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-settings over ssh sees my local GPU?

2011-06-24 Thread YoYo Siska
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:31:29AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:39 AM, YoYo Siska wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 05:21:07PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:54:01 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >> >    My question is about running nvidia-setti

Re: [gentoo-user] open source monitoring on gentoo

2011-06-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 Jun 2011 10:15:54 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Greets, > > I am looking for a nagios-type monitoring system which I can run on gentoo. > > The requirement is that the customer should be able to add/edit hosts > and services via web-GUI ... there is no cli-motivation available there

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/machine-id ???

2011-06-24 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday 24 June 2011 00:30:43 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Joost Roeleveld [11-06-23 17:52]: > > On Thursday 23 June 2011 04:49:57 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I found a file /etc/machine-id on my linux box. > > > I did a qfile for this and nothing was found. > > > > > > Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 Jun 2011 10:34:50 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:05:13 -0400, Matthew Finkel wrote: > > Did you try remerging evdev? I believe there's another package you need > > to reemerge also, I can't remember off the top of my head. If some one > > else doesn't chime in by the tim

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Indi
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:47:54 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: > > On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:54:03 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I was seriously considering importing a single seater heli kit, > > > they are classed as ultralights

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread pk
On 2011-06-24 11:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > To both of you, let me introduce you to the concept of sarcasm... Oh well... I'm not entirely unfamiliar with that concept, although I admit that it escaped me this time. Perhaps, it has something to do with how it was presented? ;-) Best regards Pete

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
> I think portage should take care of that... but obviously it doesn't > I solved the problem by rebuilding xf86-input-evdev after booting on an > unbuntu livecd then chrooting... Took some time. > As for using portage 2.2, it's listed as ~*2.2.0_alpha41, too early for me. Make an entry in your g

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Edenfield [110623 18:34]: It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "if you aren't sure if you need it then you probably don't" category. So for most users, no, you don't need

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 24 June 2011 12:56:48 Stroller did opine thusly: > On 24 June 2011, at 01:14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > >> 1) what's the difference between "package.keywords" and > >> "package.accept_keywords"? > > > > The latter is the new name fo

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Alain DIDIERJEAN
- Mail Original - De: "Adam Carter" À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Juin 2011 14h07:02 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse >> No you just need to rebuild it, so emerge xf86-input-evdev > > Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 13:02 +0100, Stroller wrote: > On 23 June 2011, at 22:57, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> ... I just keep entries in alphabetical order in single > >> files. I find it easier. > > > > That doesn't help with linked packages with different names. If foo > > requires libbar with USE="

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/23/2011 8:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:54:14 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "if you aren't sure if you need it then you probably don't" category. So for most use

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Todd Goodman
* Mike Edenfield [110623 18:34]: > On 6/23/2011 6:22 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote: > > > >> If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE > >> packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled. > > > > Looks like it's

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
>> No you just need to rebuild it, so emerge xf86-input-evdev > > This problem hit me too.  Can you give us an explanation for needing to > rebuild evdev?  Was there some missing dependency in an ebuild, or > something? If you update xorg (which OP didnt list, but a new version just went stable) y

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:59:42PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, wrote: After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and keyboard anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu live

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Stroller
On 23 June 2011, at 22:57, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> ... I just keep entries in alphabetical order in single >> files. I find it easier. > > That doesn't help with linked packages with different names. If foo > requires libbar with USE="snafu", I put it in/etc/portage/package.use/foo > Then if I re

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 June 2011, at 01:14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:01:30 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > >> 1) what's the difference between "package.keywords" and >> "package.accept_keywords"? > > The latter is the new name for the former. So I can just `mv /etc/portage/package.keywords /e

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Adam. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:59:42PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > > After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and > > keyboard > > anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd. > > According to

Re: [gentoo-user] about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 June 2011, at 02:02, Harry Putnam wrote: > I just happened to run into a situation where rsync would have been > really handy to have on board while booting a minimal install iso. > > I was surprised to find rsync was not amongst the onboard tools. > > Isn't rsync a pretty basic tool to b

Re: [gentoo-user] Claws-mail

2011-06-24 Thread JDM
Thanks Neil. The startup notification problem makes sense as when I tried awesome that also broke claws-mail. JDM -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:11:44 To: Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Claws-mail On Fri, 24 Jun 20

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 June 2011 17:23:44 Mark Knecht wrote: When I removed the fortran flag it didn't change anything because (I suppose) the KDE profile has included it as a default. So it seems. I've just tried "U

Re: [gentoo-user] Claws-mail

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:53:03 +, JDM wrote: > After upgrading some x11 libraries yesterday my claws-mail broke with > segmentation fault. Upgrading to latest testing version fixed the > issue. Believe libxcb is the culprit here. Should this be reported as a > bug or will the devs be aware? It'

[gentoo-user] Claws-mail

2011-06-24 Thread JDM
After upgrading some x11 libraries yesterday my claws-mail broke with segmentation fault. Upgrading to latest testing version fixed the issue. Believe libxcb is the culprit here. Should this be reported as a bug or will the devs be aware? JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Fbsplash

2011-06-24 Thread JDM
Oh well, will revert back to stable kernel to get my wonderful gensplash. No doubt 3.0 will bring plenty of gremlins. May have a play with initramfs. It sounds impressive anyway --Original Message-- From: Dale To: Gentoo ReplyTo: Gentoo Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fbsplash Sent: 24 Jun 2

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:05:13 -0400, Matthew Finkel wrote: > Did you try remerging evdev? I believe there's another package you need > to reemerge also, I can't remember off the top of my head. If some one > else doesn't chime in by the time I wake up then I'll look it up. If you use portage 2.2,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:52:48 +0200, pk wrote: > To Neil: > What Alan said... :-D To both of you, let me introduce you to the concept of sarcasm... -- Neil Bothwick There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary notation and those who don't. signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-user] about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 24.06.2011 03:02, schrieb Harry Putnam: > I just happened to run into a situation where rsync would have been > really handy to have on board while booting a minimal install iso. > > I was surprised to find rsync was not amongst the onboard tools. > > Isn't rsync a pretty basic tool to be miss

[gentoo-user] N wireless speeds

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
On my Intel 5100 (iwlagn) laptop; wlan0 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID:"virus.exe" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: xx:yy:zz:B3:2B:E9 Bit Rate=65 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Link Quality=70/70 Signal level=-32 dBm The TPLink WN951N (atheros AR5008, ath9k) AP h

[gentoo-user] open source monitoring on gentoo

2011-06-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greets, I am looking for a nagios-type monitoring system which I can run on gentoo. The requirement is that the customer should be able to add/edit hosts and services via web-GUI ... there is no cli-motivation available there ;-) Second wish would be that the GUI should be available in german l

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/24/11 04:47, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and > keyboard > anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd. > According to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, evdev cant't be loaded any more (see below). > What

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and > keyboard > anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd. > According to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, evdev cant't be loaded any more (see below). > What can I do

Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.06.2011 10:47, schrieb alain.didierj...@free.fr: > After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and > keyboard > anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd. > According to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, evdev cant't be loaded any more (see below). >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread pk
On 2011-06-23 21:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Of course there's a place for Cobol, a classic one is in the bank my > gf does data warehousing at. > > There's not a single soul in the entire bank that is willing to sign > off on a project to replace the Cobol that has run > justfinethanksverymuch

[gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread alain . didierjean
After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and keyboard anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd. According to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, evdev cant't be loaded any more (see below). What can I do ? Is there an upgrade to evdev ? - excerpt

Re: [gentoo-user] portage getting mixed up with USE?

2011-06-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 23.06.2011 22:05, schrieb Yohan Pereira: > On Thursday 23 Jun 2011 08:59:53 Sebastian Beßler wrote: >> d) it is an automation, and because of that a red flag for any "real >> gentoo user" > > isnt portage itself a huge amount of automation? :P Yes, but a "good ol' automation" :-P signature.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage getting mixed up with USE?

2011-06-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 24.06.2011 02:10, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:31:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Because the behaviour changed to something that is the exact opposite >> without any warning. Portage always used to tell what it will do. Now, >> simply by leaving the relevant options at